Poll of the Day > Gamestop is in the red. $488 million loss.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

I've had them ask if I wanted to pre order something but they never pressure me. I say no they say ok I carry on with my day. If you can't handle someone asking you if you want to do something and just being able to say no without becoming a whiny child over it... Well that's just weak and pathetic.

@mooreandrew58

Maybe it was just some of the stores around here then. I'd go in to trade something in and it'd be 10 minutes minimum before I could finish with the transaction as they would begin to rattle off upcoming game names. Of course I later on found out they're given hours based on pre-orders, protection plans and Power Up sub numbers. I believe they also use the surveys to gauge how effective employees are.

It's not 'whining' to want to be left alone to browse and to want a sales transaction to take less time than it would for me to read War & Peace. Mind you the hard sell people were only at one particular store here and that was their old district managers home office and he was a pain with hounding you for them when he worked behind the counter.
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If Gamestop goes under, I hope preorder bonuses suffer into oblivion and the mom and pop shops come back. I mean, there are two in the area that still survive but a couple more wouldn't hurt.

HelIWithoutSin posted...

He then keeps saying things like "Don't you like free things" and "But you get a discount on games." I had to tell him no thanks like 8 times.

Whenever someone uses the "But you'd be crazy for not taking this deal" type of argument, I've always found the quickest way out is to give the crazy, complete opposite answer. So in this instance maybe I'd say, "I don't need a handout" or "I hate free things" and people typically don't know what to say and back off. I did this recently at a mall. A kiosk worker came right up in my face, steps directly in front of my path and says, "What do you use for your skin care products?" I looked him square in the eyes and said, "I don't take care of my skin" with the most indignant tone I could muster and kept walking. He didn't say a damn thing as I walked away.
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Zerothma posted...

If Gamestop goes under, I hope preorder bonuses suffer into oblivion and the mom and pop shops come back.

I dont Mind pre-order bonuses. Anyway, I dont think GameStop is the only one who does them.

Either way, I hope they dont go under...
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I am pretty much entirely digital at this point except for Switch games (which I only own 4 of currently, and 1 came with the system), so if they go out of business nothing of value will be lost.

Zerothma posted...

If Gamestop goes under, I hope preorder bonuses suffer into oblivion and the mom and pop shops come back. I mean, there are two in the area that still survive but a couple more wouldn't hurt.

I remember reading that for mom and pop shops, they make pretty much nothing off of new games (something like $5 a game) and they are required my publishers to stock a minimum of 20 or so which is why they don't bother selling them. No small store is going to sell 20 of any new game other then maybe Madden or Call of Duty.

Plus they apparently don't get them on release day most times unlike the bigger stores, more like 2-3 days later.
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Zerothma posted...

If Gamestop goes under, I hope preorder bonuses suffer into oblivion and the mom and pop shops come back.

I doubt it. The industry loves its pre-orders too much to want to give up anything that entices people into them, and retailer-specific bonuses are an easy way to drum up demand (the sense of missing out on whatever's at another store creates a sense of urgency to grab what's at the one you choose). Given that mom and pop stores aren't likely to have enough preorders to warrant giving them bonuses to hand out, big retailers like Amazon and Best Buy are still likely going to have that edge.
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Zerothma posted...

If Gamestop goes under, I hope preorder bonuses suffer into oblivion and the mom and pop shops come back. I mean, there are two in the area that still survive but a couple more wouldn't hurt.

Gamestop isn't the only store that gets preorder bonuses. Not to mention even digital games get preorder bonuses.
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DrCidd posted...

Why does anyone even care? I think most people would agree that gamestop is a cancerous tumor on the gaming industry. They can't go out of business soon enough. Support your local mom'n'pop game shop, where you're more than just a dollar sign.

WhiskeyDisk posted...

All you really need to know about GameStop can be summed up by a quick Google search about their "circle of life" program internally.

I was given a lot of shit by most of the gamestop dick riders here when I stated how they straight up lie to their customers. Why would it stop at new/used games?

Like who? Gaming, at least the video kind, isn't the kind of thing small businesses get into. I know there's nothing near here except one retro store. Wally is 40 minutes away. TrU is gone. Targ and BB are jokes. That doesn't leave much other than GS.

Nobody will argue they're the only ones to carry non mainstream items. If you're a regular then you won't get the 'sales pitch', a simple nah if they ask about preorders and you're good. The employees here know their stuff. Who is lying if I get my games at a price I'm happy with? Really, the truth is if you go in there being stupid then they might take advantage of that. Otherwise their stock puts them above anything else around here.

Zerothma posted...

If Gamestop goes under, I hope preorder bonuses suffer into oblivion and the mom and pop shops come back. I mean, there are two in the area that still survive but a couple more wouldn't hurt.

All the little indie shops by me usually price their stuff just under eBay value and make Gamestop look generous by comparison with the meager amounts they're only willing to pay at times.

I had one of the local shop employees tell me his boss, who has 3 stores and raids places like Target, Walmart and the like for cheaper priced stuff to flip in his stores, told him to only give $1 a game for PS3 stuff regardless of rarity. So I could go in there with a fully factory sealed copy of The Simpsons Game, which typically was going for $40 new and sealed, and my offer from them would be $1 for that.

So yeah, small indie shops/chains aren't always this bastion of gaming nirvana. Some of them are run by assholes who only care about how much per item they can make.

As for the pre-order bonuses, some of them over the years have been interesting (Catherine artbook and soundtrack, etc). But now most of them seem to be some digital shit, which to me in pointless and just shows these companies further cheaping out and gamers letting them by continuing to purchase from them.
Dikitain posted...

I remember reading that for mom and pop shops, they make pretty much nothing off of new games (something like $5 a game) and they are required my publishers to stock a minimum of 20 or so which is why they don't bother selling them. No small store is going to sell 20 of any new game other then maybe Madden or Call of Duty.

Plus they apparently don't get them on release day most times unlike the bigger stores, more like 2-3 days later.

The aforementioned small chain around here typically buys at MSRP from the big retail chains sometimes just to have copies to sell in their stores. Although I think they may have used the Gamer's Club Unlocked discount to at least make SOMETHING off those launch day copies. Just makes me wonder how many accounts they went through once the 3 per title per system per year limit was instituted a handful of years ago.
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Far-Queue posted...

"Their sales suck" is the best you can come up with? Digital sales are on par and often better than retail sales. Especially when you consider bundles.

I'm not saying GS isn't good for a bargain here and there. Not sure why you're so hung up on defending them. That you write off digital sales en masse goes to show how profoundly ignorant you are on this subject.

The line right after explains why they're bad. Discs drop in price, digital doesn't.

Says who? Problem with that comment is they're only looking at the totals not the breakdown. Physical game versus digital game, disc wins. However if you're boosting the digital numbers by adding DLC or subscriptions (obviously can't be on disc) then you're not getting a fair comparison. There's a clear demand for discs for a variety of reasons. Digital is not taking over anytime soon.

I don't have a personal stake in GS, all I want are the most games for the least amount of money. GS's B2G1 sales are useful. I just read these complaints from obviously inept people and go 'that sounds like a you problem, not a them problem'. How entitled do you need to be to bitch about a lousy wrapper on your game? You're gonna open it anyway. Of course if there's physical damage then that's an issue.

DrCidd posted...

I think most people would agree that gamestop is a cancerous tumor on the gaming industry.

And I think you're very much mistaken about popular opinion, considering very few people feel so strongly.

BUMPED2002 posted...

I guess they'll file bankruptcy then ask the court to set aside millions for top exec bonuses.

They'd likely have to do worse before considering bankruptcy.
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Zeus posted...

And I think you're very much mistaken about popular opinion, considering very few people feel so strongly.

This is true. People like us are not the majority; the worst thing most people have to say about Gamestop is that they give crap for trades.
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$488mil in real money? How much is that in store credit, I wonder? A few trillion?
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DPsx7 posted...

How entitled do you need to be to bitch about a lousy wrapper on your game? You're gonna open it anyway. Of course if there's physical damage then that's an issue.

Lol.
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^Yep. If you don't like it and you still buy it anyway, you're contributing to the problem.
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ThrillKillFan posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

I've had them ask if I wanted to pre order something but they never pressure me. I say no they say ok I carry on with my day. If you can't handle someone asking you if you want to do something and just being able to say no without becoming a whiny child over it... Well that's just weak and pathetic.

@mooreandrew58

Maybe it was just some of the stores around here then. I'd go in to trade something in and it'd be 10 minutes minimum before I could finish with the transaction as they would begin to rattle off upcoming game names. Of course I later on found out they're given hours based on pre-orders, protection plans and Power Up sub numbers. I believe they also use the surveys to gauge how effective employees are.

It's not 'whining' to want to be left alone to browse and to want a sales transaction to take less time than it would for me to read War & Peace. Mind you the hard sell people were only at one particular store here and that was their old district managers home office and he was a pain with hounding you for them when he worked behind the counter.

The whining comment was in general not towards anyone in particular. I've seen people act like GameStop killed their dog over it.

Yeah my local GameStop just hands out pieces of papers with all upcoming releases on them. And they don't do it often. So when they do I assume management has insisted upon it.

I've had my bad experiences at GameStop but it's rare and can be boiled down to a single shitty employee or shitty manager who makes them do things they know people don't like. Most employees have usually been super friendly. My only gripe is they don't seem to take the answer no I don't have a membership. They'll then ask if I ever had one which I did so then they ask my phone number and yada yada despite it being long expired.

Not a big deal though I can still get in and out of GameStop quicker than I can Walmart to buy a game.
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DPsx7 posted...

How entitled do you need to be to bitch about a lousy wrapper on your game? You're gonna open it anyway. Of course if there's physical damage then that's an issue.

@DPsx7

Because some of us like the visceral joy of ripping into the plastic that games are sealed in and breathing in that 'new game smell' that first time you open the case?

Not only that but if you buy a 'newsed' game and the clerk forgets to put that little clear plastic seal on it that denotes it was the last copy many times the stores will refuse to allow you to return it. With a truly SEALED copy you can. Sometimes you change your mind after buying something.

Finally people buy them as gifts for other people. Do you really think that it's appropriate to give somebody an already opened game as a gift? I don't.
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DPsx7 posted...

Discs drop in price, digital doesn't.

Digital drops in price all the time. How are you this dense?
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ThrillKillFan posted...

DPsx7 posted...

How entitled do you need to be to bitch about a lousy wrapper on your game? You're gonna open it anyway. Of course if there's physical damage then that's an issue.

@DPsx7

Because some of us like the visceral joy of ripping into the plastic that games are sealed in and breathing in that 'new game smell' that first time you open the case?

Not only that but if you buy a 'newsed' game and the clerk forgets to put that little clear plastic seal on it that denotes it was the last copy many times the stores will refuse to allow you to return it. With a truly SEALED copy you can. Sometimes you change your mind after buying something.

Finally people buy them as gifts for other people. Do you really think that it's appropriate to give somebody an already opened game as a gift? I don't.

Yankee Candle should make 'new game smell'. With that said I buy so many games I don't feel a need to sniff every one. (Wow, what a sentence.)

I don't get that seal too often. Returning games is rare for me and I understand why they'd limit it. People would treat them like rentals.

Nobody is making you shop at GS. For the most part we're talking about buying games for ourselves. If you actually need a wrapped product for a gift then make sure it's wrapped.

I never use Gamestop since going PC only for my gaming.
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burn in hell, shit company, ok?
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I know lots of people who treat them like a rental service. Its kinda shitty, tbh...

I personally dont because I dont wanna be rush through a game. Plus I like most games and replay them...
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DPsx7 posted...

Yankee Candle should make 'new game smell'. With that said I buy so many games I don't feel a need to sniff every one. (Wow, what a sentence.)

I typically buy quite a few games as well yet Gamestop is the only place where I have bought a "new" game that's opened already.

I don't get that seal too often. Returning games is rare for me and I understand why they'd limit it. People would treat them like rentals.

I don't usually return games often either. But the thing is to me new means buying something in a factory sealed package.

Once it's been opened it's considered used to me regardless of who opened it. So excuse me for wanting a factory sealed item that hasn't been subjected to innumerable people's snot, saliva and/or other bodily fluids from their filthy hands manhandling the case, artwork and any possible manual.

Nobody is making you shop at GS. For the most part we're talking about buying games for ourselves. If you actually need a wrapped product for a gift then make sure it's wrapped.

If you don't mind then that's fine. That's your thing. But, AGAIN, to me once it's opened it's USED and it should NOT be able to be sold as new.

Otherwise it should be sold as used with a decent shopworn discount.
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I thought some people said that you can get a wrapped version. You just have to ask for it. Of they have it. The last one is apparently not wrapped because they need something to put out there on display.

But either way, its technically not used. Or it can be opened but not used. They maybe should give a discount, though. Like how floor items at certain stores are. But not the same amount as a used game gets since its technically still new...
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OhhhJa posted...

Inevitable and unsurprising. Has nothing to do with their business model either. Gamers just dont have to leave the house to buy games anymore. The gaming retail industry isnt the only one suffering from this. And honestly retail sucks anyway. Probably best to see it go away at this point

As long as Arv can get physical copies hes good
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DPsx7 posted...

Yankee Candle should make 'new game smell'. With that said I buy so many games I don't feel a need to sniff every one. (Wow, what a sentence.)

I don't get that seal too often. Returning games is rare for me and I understand why they'd limit it. People would treat them like rentals.

Nobody is making you shop at GS. For the most part we're talking about buying games for ourselves. If you actually need a wrapped product for a gift then make sure it's wrapped.

You still don't know what the word entitled means. The only time they should even sell a new game when it's opened is if it is the display copy. There should only be one display copy.

ThrillKillFan posted...

I don't usually return games often either. But the thing is to me new means buying something in a factory sealed package.

Once it's been opened it's considered used to me regardless of who opened it. So excuse me for wanting a factory sealed item that hasn't been subjected to innumerable people's snot, saliva and/or other bodily fluids from their filthy hands manhandling the case, artwork and any possible manual.

Bethesda thinks that a game is used even if it's still factory wrapped.
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LinkPizza posted...

I thought some people said that you can get a wrapped version. You just have to ask for it. Of they have it. The last one is apparently not wrapped because they need something to put out there on display.

But either way, its technically not used. Or it can be opened but not used. They maybe should give a discount, though. Like how floor items at certain stores are. But not the same amount as a used game gets since its technically still new...

@LinkPizza

Try this little experiment in a Gamestop store then. Buy a game that you know you're going to keep anyway, making sure it's a sealed copy. Open it right after you buy it, then tell the cashier you just changed your mind and you no longer want the game. See what they say. I did this just to prove a point the one time during the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube gen.

I was told (and I quote), "Once you open a game it's no longer new, it's used. You can trade it in for store credit."

Yet when the stores employees open it to make a display copy it's still somehow "new"? Fuck that. Opening it makes it USED, whether I open it or they open it.

Target and Best Buy both use those magnetically sealed security cases for their higher priced games to keep the boxes on display with live product inside. For the $19.99 and under ones they typically forgo the security cases. Heck. Even Toys R Us used to have dummy cases with black DVD type cases with printed up 'not for resale/display' artwork in the plastic sleeve on those cases. Before that system they simply had a printed up artwork in a plastic sleeve with a bunch of paper slips that you took to the register to get a SEALED copy of a game.

So if these other retailers can, did and do these sort of things why does Gamestop do it in a way that causes a new copy or copies of games to be opened to make display cases?
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Far-Queue posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Discs drop in price, digital doesn't.

Digital drops in price all the time. How are you this dense?

Hmm I've seen digital go on sale temporarily but it stay the same price for far longer than the physical
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Discs drop in price, digital doesn't.

Digital drops in price all the time. How are you this dense?

Hmm I've seen digital go on sale temporarily but it stay the same price for far longer than the physical

Nobody in their right mind buys a digital game unless it is

1) A pre-order
2) At the sale price

Even in the case of #2, sales vary and people may wait for at least a 50 - 75% off sale. I know I don't buy any digital game unless it is $5 or less (or I want it on day 1 and am willing to pay full price).
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That sort of makes sense since you asked for a sealed copy only to open it. What if you ordered the display one, opened it, and returned it. Would you be able to get full price back for that one? The already opened one?
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ThrillKillFan posted...

@LinkPizza

Try this little experiment in a Gamestop store then. Buy a game that you know you're going to keep anyway, making sure it's a sealed copy. Open it right after you buy it, then tell the cashier you just changed your mind and you no longer want the game. See what they say. I did this just to prove a point the one time during the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube gen.

I was told (and I quote), "Once you open a game it's no longer new, it's used. You can trade it in for store credit."

Yet when the stores employees open it to make a display copy it's still somehow "new"? Fuck that. Opening it makes it USED, whether I open it or they open it.

Target and Best Buy both use those magnetically sealed security cases for their higher priced games to keep the boxes on display with live product inside. For the $19.99 and under ones they typically forgo the security cases. Heck. Even Toys R Us used to have dummy cases with black DVD type cases with printed up 'not for resale/display' artwork in the plastic sleeve on those cases. Before that system they simply had a printed up artwork in a plastic sleeve with a bunch of paper slips that you took to the register to get a SEALED copy of a game.

So if these other retailers can, did and do these sort of things why does Gamestop do it in a way that causes a new copy or copies of games to be opened to make display cases?

Yeah there literally is no difference between that. But the thing is with Gamestop is they don't do it like that anymore. They use to only have one out as a display copy and now they seem to open every single one except for the high ticket games.
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Revelation34 posted...

ThrillKillFan posted...

@LinkPizza

Try this little experiment in a Gamestop store then. Buy a game that you know you're going to keep anyway, making sure it's a sealed copy. Open it right after you buy it, then tell the cashier you just changed your mind and you no longer want the game. See what they say. I did this just to prove a point the one time during the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube gen.

I was told (and I quote), "Once you open a game it's no longer new, it's used. You can trade it in for store credit."

Yet when the stores employees open it to make a display copy it's still somehow "new"? Fuck that. Opening it makes it USED, whether I open it or they open it.

Target and Best Buy both use those magnetically sealed security cases for their higher priced games to keep the boxes on display with live product inside. For the $19.99 and under ones they typically forgo the security cases. Heck. Even Toys R Us used to have dummy cases with black DVD type cases with printed up 'not for resale/display' artwork in the plastic sleeve on those cases. Before that system they simply had a printed up artwork in a plastic sleeve with a bunch of paper slips that you took to the register to get a SEALED copy of a game.

So if these other retailers can, did and do these sort of things why does Gamestop do it in a way that causes a new copy or copies of games to be opened to make display cases?

Yeah there literally is no difference between that. But the thing is with Gamestop is they don't do it like that anymore. They use to only have one out as a display copy and now they seem to open every single one except for the high ticket games.

When I bought dissidia nt it was sealed. Not what I'd call a high ticket game
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Far-Queue posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Discs drop in price, digital doesn't.

Digital drops in price all the time. How are you this dense?

How often and how much? $2 off a digital game is hardly a discount. I mean significant discounts. $60 digital games sit there for months while a good ol' disc drops 50% within a couple months if not sooner.

ThrillKillFan posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Yankee Candle should make 'new game smell'. With that said I buy so many games I don't feel a need to sniff every one. (Wow, what a sentence.)

I typically buy quite a few games as well yet Gamestop is the only place where I have bought a "new" game that's opened already.

I don't get that seal too often. Returning games is rare for me and I understand why they'd limit it. People would treat them like rentals.

I don't usually return games often either. But the thing is to me new means buying something in a factory sealed package.

Once it's been opened it's considered used to me regardless of who opened it. So excuse me for wanting a factory sealed item that hasn't been subjected to innumerable people's snot, saliva and/or other bodily fluids from their filthy hands manhandling the case, artwork and any possible manual.

Nobody is making you shop at GS. For the most part we're talking about buying games for ourselves. If you actually need a wrapped product for a gift then make sure it's wrapped.

If you don't mind then that's fine. That's your thing. But, AGAIN, to me once it's opened it's USED and it should NOT be able to be sold as new.

Otherwise it should be sold as used with a decent shopworn discount.

Discs don't have a limited shelf life. 'New' is just a word, for me the thing to look for is the condition of the disc/case. I mean if you've ever gotten something from Gamefly those are practically new. Arguing over cellophane is silly if it saves $30. Then really it's just inventory control. You go to BB and they got those plastic boxes. Targ or TrU use locked shelves.

Opened isn't the same as used. New cars aren't exactly taped shut and rolled across the country. You all are just using this as a crazy reason to bash GS.

Revelation34 posted...

Yeah there literally is no difference between that. But the thing is with Gamestop is they don't do it like that anymore. They use to only have one out as a display copy and now they seem to open every single one except for the high ticket games.

Because they have so much variety to stock, they aren't ordering 100 copies like the bad stores. Maybe they'll get 5 or 10 so yeah there's a chance you'll get the display. I mean back when I wanted the SE of Hyperdimension Neptunia my closest shop had the only one in 25 miles. They had 2 of the base model PSVR's on launch day. It's a tiny store in a shopping plaza, there isn't a large back room for this stuff.

Moral of the story is the condition is the most important. If I get a game to play will anyone be able to tell if there was once a wrapper or not?

DPsx7 posted...

Discs don't have a limited shelf life. 'New' is just a word, for me the thing to look for is the condition of the disc/case. I mean if you've ever gotten something from Gamefly those are practically new. Arguing over cellophane is silly if it saves $30. Then really it's just inventory control. You go to BB and they got those plastic boxes. Targ or TrU use locked shelves.

Except that some of those 'practically new' discs from Gamefly and/or Redbox have big chips missing off the edges of them that sometimes make them not work after a while.

Either way I'd rather buy a 70% off new and sealed clearance game from Target versus a $30 opened and not new (to me) game from Gamestop.

Opened isn't the same as used. New cars aren't exactly taped shut and rolled across the country. You all are just using this as a crazy reason to bash GS.

Try the experiment I mentioned above at a random Gamestop with a game you know you're going to keep anyway. See what they say. That's what amused me about their policy of opening new games to make display cases. When they do it it's magically still "new". If I do it right in front of them, it's somehow no longer new. That, to me, is bullshit.

As for 'bashing' Gamestop, they have SOME decent sales at times. Last thing I bought from them was Constructor for PS4 for $5. It was indeed 'newsed'. But it was $5. If it's a $40-50 game and 'newsed' then there's an issue. But for a cheap game that likely nobody even looked at the case of, so it stayed truly like new, then I'm fine with the opened as new thing.
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ThrillKillFan posted...

Either way I'd rather buy a 70% off new and sealed clearance game from Target versus a $30 opened and not new (to me) game from Gamestop.

Are you saying youd rather waste money? Because you can still go do that. I usually like to save money, though. I would normally rather buy a game myself. But Im not gonna be mad if I get the display item. Do I think it should be less? Yeah. But Ill still pay new price as long as its still new. Which it is. No wrapper means I dont have to waste time tearing it off, anyway. And the wrapper is going to go in the trash.

In the end, if you really care that much about the plastic, then ask for a wrapped copy if they have one.
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LinkPizza posted...

Are you saying youd rather waste money? Because you can still go do that. I usually like to save money, though. I would normally rather buy a game myself. But Im not gonna be mad if I get the display item. Do I think it should be less? Yeah. But Ill still pay new price as long as its still new. Which it is. No wrapper means I dont have to waste time tearing it off, anyway. And the wrapper is going to go in the trash.

In the end, if you really care that much about the plastic, then ask for a wrapped copy if they have one.

We have different definitions of what we consider new, just like Gamestop apparently does. I would rather have a fully sealed one that little kids didn't wipe their snot on, sneeze on or that people touched the open case and everything else with their bare hands after running out of the bathroom without washing their hands.

Besides which at 70% off most clearance stuff from Target and even Walmart beats many Gamestop prices by leaps and bounds.
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I have a soft spot for my local Game Stop, since I have been shopping there almost exclusively for over a decade and everybody there knows me, but the company is a zombie that is long overdue for a burning. It killed Funcoland. It absorbed EB Games, but kept its crappiest practices. (Voice of experience here, since I used to work for EB Games in the early '00s; worst job I have had.) Goodness only knows how many mom-and-pop stores it annihilated over the years. Physical gaming is on its way out, and so this is one monopoly that must go with it.
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I_Abibde posted...

Physical gaming is on its way out, and so this is one monopoly that must go with it.

Physical copies will only cease to exist once two things happen.

1. Pricing goes wayyyy down on digital copies (none of this launching at $60 and staying there for 3 years or more).

and

2. EVERYBODY has access to affordable and fast internet.

Without that second one, any company trying to release a digital only console (see: PSP GO) would be seen as foolhardy. Yet I imagine just like all of the other less than consumer friendly things (loot boxes, pay to play online, on disc DLC, etc) that have begun to feast on the rotting corpse of what was once gaming most gamers would just shrug and keep paying the ridiculously high prices for digital copies in order to keep enjoying their hobby.

But this is one gamer who would say adios if pricing didn't take a steep nosedive.
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gamestop!

LOL

GAMESTOP!

you had me at Gamestop ROFL! XD
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LinkPizza posted...

I know lots of people who treat them like a rental service. Its kinda shitty, tbh...

I personally dont because I dont wanna be rush through a game. Plus I like most games and replay them...

I might do that. See how long it takes for me to get banned from all stores that way.
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ThrillKillFan posted...

But this is one gamer who would say adios if pricing didn't take a steep nosedive.

This is one reason why I have been drifting more and more towards Steam. Triple-A gaming must change. I love my consoles, and I will miss being a collector, but that is becoming a thing of the past.

I also own(ed) a PSP Go. Would still be using it if it did not get the Blank Screen of Death.
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ThrillKillFan posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Discs don't have a limited shelf life. 'New' is just a word, for me the thing to look for is the condition of the disc/case. I mean if you've ever gotten something from Gamefly those are practically new. Arguing over cellophane is silly if it saves $30. Then really it's just inventory control. You go to BB and they got those plastic boxes. Targ or TrU use locked shelves.

Except that some of those 'practically new' discs from Gamefly and/or Redbox have big chips missing off the edges of them that sometimes make them not work after a while.

Either way I'd rather buy a 70% off new and sealed clearance game from Target versus a $30 opened and not new (to me) game from Gamestop.

Opened isn't the same as used. New cars aren't exactly taped shut and rolled across the country. You all are just using this as a crazy reason to bash GS.

Try the experiment I mentioned above at a random Gamestop with a game you know you're going to keep anyway. See what they say. That's what amused me about their policy of opening new games to make display cases. When they do it it's magically still "new". If I do it right in front of them, it's somehow no longer new. That, to me, is bullshit.

As for 'bashing' Gamestop, they have SOME decent sales at times. Last thing I bought from them was Constructor for PS4 for $5. It was indeed 'newsed'. But it was $5. If it's a $40-50 game and 'newsed' then there's an issue. But for a cheap game that likely nobody even looked at the case of, so it stayed truly like new, then I'm fine with the opened as new thing.

I won't buy a game if the box is awful. Never seen a damaged disc yet.

For me it's whoever is first to $30. New or used. Yes I've seen clearance sales that beat used prices. But like for the recent BF, GS had the lowest price first on TR, Astro Bot, and AC Odyssey. New. Because people don't trade in games as frequently I'll admit it's getting harder to find used prices reaching my price point before new copies do.

ThrillKillFan posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Are you saying youd rather waste money? Because you can still go do that. I usually like to save money, though. I would normally rather buy a game myself. But Im not gonna be mad if I get the display item. Do I think it should be less? Yeah. But Ill still pay new price as long as its still new. Which it is. No wrapper means I dont have to waste time tearing it off, anyway. And the wrapper is going to go in the trash.

In the end, if you really care that much about the plastic, then ask for a wrapped copy if they have one.

We have different definitions of what we consider new, just like Gamestop apparently does. I would rather have a fully sealed one that little kids didn't wipe their snot on, sneeze on or that people touched the open case and everything else with their bare hands after running out of the bathroom without washing their hands.

Besides which at 70% off most clearance stuff from Target and even Walmart beats many Gamestop prices by leaps and bounds.

Is that your best argument? Geez, you're more likely to catch that crap from a door handle or shopping cart.

Id rather have physical. If I had to choose between keeping all games physical or digital, Id definitely choose physical...
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DPsx7 posted...

Because they have so much variety to stock, they aren't ordering 100 copies like the bad stores. Maybe they'll get 5 or 10 so yeah there's a chance you'll get the display. I mean back when I wanted the SE of Hyperdimension Neptunia my closest shop had the only one in 25 miles. They had 2 of the base model PSVR's on launch day. It's a tiny store in a shopping plaza, there isn't a large back room for this stuff.

Opening every copy for no reason isn't the same as just getting a display copy.

I_Abibde posted...

Physical gaming is on its way out, and so this is one monopoly that must go with it.

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DPsx7 posted...

I mean back when I wanted the SE of Hyperdimension Neptunia my closest shop had the only one in 25 miles.

Interesting that you would mention that because the difference in value today between an opened copy of Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1 Limited Edition and a sealed copy is nearly $300.
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HelIWithoutSin posted...

DPsx7 posted...

I mean back when I wanted the SE of Hyperdimension Neptunia my closest shop had the only one in 25 miles.

Interesting that you would mention that because the difference in value today between an opened copy of Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1 Limited Edition and a sealed copy is nearly $300.

Could that be because its a collectors item possibly? If Im buying a game to play, Im going to open it regardless. Also, I at that point rather have an opened one if theres that much difference in price and the only difference is one is new and opened, and the other is new and sealed...
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LinkPizza posted...

Could that be because its a collectors item possibly?

I'm assuming you're asking if it's because it's specifically a collector's edition. In this case, yes, but there are plenty, plenty, plenty, of non-collector's edition games that are worth a lot more sealed than opened.

LinkPizza posted...

If Im buying a game to play, Im going to open it regardless. Also, I at that point rather have an opened one if theres that much difference in price and the only difference is one is new and opened, and the other is new and sealed...

Of course you're going to open it if you're going to play it. But, what if you bought the game brand new at launch and got an opened copy, and for whatever reason, never got around to playing it? I bet you'd wish you got a sealed copy instead. If you were interested in getting the game now just to play, of course you wouldn't get a sealed copy just to ruin it. That'd be silly.
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