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Balrog0 11/15/18 5:17:58 PM #256: |
WhinyZach posted...
CyricZ posted...kayoticdreamz posted...Men are physically stronger than women 99.99% "of the time but in this particular case the transgender fighter in question has an unremarkable record against very bad competition --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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omega cookie 11/15/18 5:24:18 PM #257: |
Imagine being so stupid that you'd try to excuse some guy with a mental illness breaking a woman's skull.
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Delta_F14 11/15/18 5:25:16 PM #258: |
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CyricZ 11/15/18 5:32:30 PM #260: |
WhinyZach posted...
There's lots of proof out there. The examples you give are largely of the professional level of each gender pitted against each other. The way that guy said was like he could easily take on 99% of all women himself. That's the fantasy he appeared to be telling himself. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 11/15/18 5:41:54 PM #261: |
WhinyZach posted...
but in this particular case the transgender fighter in question has an unremarkable record against very bad competition Yeah, good job. Check out their sherdog records Balrog0 posted... Fallon Fox lost to a second tier at best fighter that now fights at a weight class 20 pounds lower than her. She has 5 wins -- 2 of those are against women who themselves have no wins, another is against someone who is 2-8. The best record any of her opponents have is seriously 4-3 btw, the one win she has that is in the 3rd round came from that 4-3 person, almost like skill had something to do with it --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EdgeMaster 11/15/18 5:46:46 PM #262: |
omega cookie posted...
Imagine being so stupid that you'd try to excuse some guy with a mental illness breaking a woman's skull. LMFAO!! Always truth in good humor. --- If you don't have anything nice to say, say it on the internet. ****poster Extraordinaire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PIITB415 11/15/18 5:48:35 PM #263: |
Squall28 posted...
gunplagirl posted...Squall28 posted...Sports should be separated by sex not gender. Why is this so hard? This. It's a dude --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 11/15/18 6:06:26 PM #264: |
What people don't seem to understand is that there's a significant difference between sex-based differences existing and them being unmanageable for transgender athletes or even necessarily relevant to a given event.
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CyricZ 11/15/18 6:23:45 PM #265: |
As you can clearly see, we still have people who don't even get "transgender", so asking them to understand those concepts is a little beyond.
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ssjevot 11/15/18 6:47:01 PM #266: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
What people don't seem to understand is that there's a significant difference between sex-based differences existing and them being unmanageable for transgender athletes or even necessarily relevant to a given event. I think quite a few do understand it. But you also have (loud) extremist bigots who just hate trans people and don't want to understand. As well as extremist ideologues who think biology isn't real and there is no need to do anything to manage them. Really interesting article with two trans athletes presenting the two sides of if trans people should need to manage their testosterone levels in cycling: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2018/01/11/these-transgender-cyclists-have-olympian-disagreement-how-define-fairness/995434001/ --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 11/15/18 6:48:33 PM #267: |
CyricZ posted...
kayoticdreamz posted...Men are physically stronger than women 99.99% "of the time How in God's name did you pass basic biology in high school? Evolution and physiology are things. Men develop more muscle and are generally stronger than women. It's literally a basic fact. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/15/18 6:56:31 PM #268: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Men develop more muscle and are generally stronger than women. "99.99% of the time"? Is that something you learned in "basic biology"? --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tennisdude818 11/15/18 8:06:50 PM #269: |
Balrog0 posted...
tennisdude818 posted...CyricZ posted...Knowledge_King posted...That's a dumb point to bring up, that no one complains when transwomen lose. I'm not sure how I can provide an example because we would have to compare the performance of this fighter to an alternate reality where they never transitioned. Dominating or not, the unfair advantage screws over the opponents that Fallon beat. It's like an A league baseball player using steroids, which is unfair regardless of how far the boost takes them. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Amy-Rose 11/15/18 8:08:41 PM #270: |
kayoticdreamz posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...kayoticdreamz posted... Imagine thinking cis is some sort of insult. It's not. --- Have no fear, Amy Rose is here! Join the Amy Rose fans discord if you like our favorite pink hedgehog! https://discord.gg/quQVXN2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 11/15/18 8:13:39 PM #271: |
He must be a joy in organic chemistry. Your labels are triggering me!
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midgar 11/15/18 8:17:24 PM #272: |
Amy-Rose posted...
It is, however, unnecessary and redundant . It is the standard configuration for the overwhelming majority of mammalian life on the planet. There's literally no need to fabricate a label for humanity's default setting, is there? --- Now playing: Games ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Space_Man 11/15/18 8:19:23 PM #273: |
midgar posted...
Amy-Rose posted... Did you just assume that a majority of mammals are cis? The squirrel in my backyard is trans and you'd better apologize on Twitter, BuzzFeed, and huff post or else Trevor Noah might make fun of you. --- There sure are a lot of different mes just like you have a lot of different yous! I'm going outside to play now I hope all the different yous have fun too. Bye! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 11/15/18 8:24:37 PM #274: |
midgar posted...
Amy-Rose posted... Why not? Just because something is most common or default doesn't mean it can't have a separate label to distinguish it from less common varieties. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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midgar 11/15/18 8:24:58 PM #275: |
Space_Man posted...
midgar posted...Amy-Rose posted... That would require him to actually be funny. But yes, I must publish an immediate redaction, before it's too late! Can't have protesters outside the house with their hey-hos. --- Now playing: Games ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kayoticdreamz 11/15/18 8:25:38 PM #276: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
CyricZ posted...kayoticdreamz posted...Men are physically stronger than women 99.99% "of the time This Girls gain fat to help with child bearing.... Boys gain size and muscle during puberty... This gives us our adult form. No amount of feminist liberals idealogy can change basic fundamental biology and physiology ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Space_Man 11/15/18 8:25:43 PM #277: |
midgar posted...
Don't say that or he might do his shitty fake American accent at you --- There sure are a lot of different mes just like you have a lot of different yous! I'm going outside to play now I hope all the different yous have fun too. Bye! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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midgar 11/15/18 8:27:09 PM #278: |
Space_Man posted...
midgar posted... I'm equipped with an equally shitty fake Brittish accent. Come at me, I say. --- Now playing: Games ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kayoticdreamz 11/15/18 8:29:18 PM #279: |
midgar posted...
Amy-Rose posted... This We need to draw the line... Men are men, not cismales. If trans are going to be a thing, they can have the descriptive qualifier in front of the noun. 1% of the world's population shouldn't be allowed to force 99% of the world to do something... That's not how democracy works. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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midgar 11/15/18 8:29:59 PM #280: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
I think the question is more why, not why not. Also, less common is probably a bit generous, given the rarity. I'm not sure why the default requires additional steps to identify itself. It's not the variation, it's the standard. --- Now playing: Games ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Amy-Rose 11/15/18 8:30:21 PM #281: |
kayoticdreamz posted...
midgar posted...Amy-Rose posted... And nobody is forcing anyone to use the term cis. You're trying to make something that's not an issue into one. --- Have no fear, Amy Rose is here! Join the Amy Rose fans discord if you like our favorite pink hedgehog! https://discord.gg/quQVXN2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 11/15/18 8:30:22 PM #282: |
Do people who reject cis also reject heterosexual as a label?
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Medussa 11/15/18 8:30:49 PM #283: |
jfc, are we really back to "adjectives, how do they work?" territory again?
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midgar 11/15/18 8:33:31 PM #284: |
ssjevot posted...
Do people who reject cis also reject heterosexual as a label? I generally refer to people as people and sort the rest out as necessary, which is rarely. --- Now playing: Games ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/15/18 8:38:02 PM #285: |
midgar posted...
sort the rest out as necessary, which is rarely. Clearly today. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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midgar 11/15/18 8:39:43 PM #286: |
CyricZ posted...
midgar posted...sort the rest out as necessary, which is rarely. Do tell. --- Now playing: Games ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 11/15/18 8:39:59 PM #287: |
midgar posted...
Dragonblade01 posted... It's not that we always need to use cisgender. It exists for when it's important to distinguish. You don't go around referring to people as heterosexuals, but the term exists when it's relevant. You don't refer to milk as "whole milk" in normal conversation, but the distinction is used as necessary. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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midgar 11/15/18 8:50:36 PM #288: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
I see what you're saying and understand, but it's not like there's a default milk that dominates 98% of the market lol. In instances where it would matter, you've probably already identified the variant. But no, I get it. Maybe not in a typical social interaction, but for the sake of scientific study or comparison, I see why it is used. But it's only practically relevant when comparing beyond biological gender and sexual orientation. --- Now playing: Games ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 11/15/18 8:58:55 PM #289: |
midgar posted...
Dragonblade01 posted... Perhaps, but considering this topic is expressly about transwomen competing against ciswomen, this would definitely be one of the times where its use is appropriate. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 11/15/18 8:59:49 PM #290: |
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midgar 11/15/18 9:05:05 PM #291: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
You mean a dude with tits vs a woman. But seriously, it's a trans woman vs a woman. The label is only needed for the one, technically. Also, are we sure the poor dear with the cracked skull is strait? I thought cis implied that. --- Now playing: Games ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BarneyBosco 11/15/18 9:06:59 PM #292: |
It was a man for 30 years and now wants to be treated like a lady so he can beat the shit out of them. Odd. I guess that's one way to make a living. Fucking disgusting defending this.
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Dragonblade01 11/15/18 9:11:44 PM #293: |
midgar posted...
Dragonblade01 posted... You could technically only use ciswoman as well. A lot can be understood via context alone, but we use both terms for added clarity. That's why they exist in the first place. Also, cis does not imply heterosexuality. It exclusively refers to those whose gender identity matches their assigned gender at birth. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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midgar 11/15/18 9:18:29 PM #294: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
I see, that's right. ...so it's an even more useless additional layer to add. But again, why would one use an unnecessary identifier for a biological woman who identifies as a woman? You could just say woman without any qualifiers and say the same thing. --- Now playing: Games ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KoroSensei33 11/15/18 9:25:25 PM #295: |
Dudes in female clothing are considered female? Wtf
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tennisdude818 11/15/18 9:29:53 PM #296: |
When SJWs say youre a bigot if you dont want transwomen competing in the womens league or youre a bigot if you wont date transwomen most people will just accept being called transphobic.
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Dragonblade01 11/15/18 9:30:03 PM #297: |
midgar posted...
But again, why would one use an unnecessary identifier for a biological woman who identifies as a woman? Because transgender people exist. The whole purpose of using cisgender where relevant is precisely because there is another category as well. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 11/16/18 5:24:17 AM #298: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
midgar posted...But again, why would one use an unnecessary identifier for a biological woman who identifies as a woman? Born with both parts then sure. Just trying to create-a-character yourself because you don't like the hand you were dealt is ridiculous. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheCurseX2 11/16/18 5:35:26 AM #299: |
If you want to roleplay something you're not, go play Dungeons & Dragons.
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SaithSayer 11/16/18 5:42:40 AM #300: |
LARPing really got big.
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Dragonblade01 11/16/18 5:49:08 AM #301: |
That's not what it means to be transgender.
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SaithSayer 11/16/18 5:51:58 AM #302: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
That's not what it means to be transgender. Is it when a dude relates to this or something? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kisai 11/16/18 5:53:36 AM #303: |
TheCurseX2 posted...
If you want to roleplay something you're not, go play Dungeons & Dragons. I mean, you're trying to flame, but this is kinda what it feels like a lot for me. :/ SaithSayer posted... Born with both parts then sure. Just trying to create-a-character yourself because you don't like the hand you were dealt is ridiculous. This, too. I just kinda have to accept that no matter what, people are gonna look at me as a crossdresser. --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 11/16/18 5:54:37 AM #304: |
SaithSayer posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...That's not what it means to be transgender. No ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 11/16/18 5:56:50 AM #305: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
SaithSayer posted...Dragonblade01 posted...That's not what it means to be transgender. I need an explanation then. What exactly is the difference between a trans woman (before the operation) and an effeminate gay man? Because as far as I can tell, it seems like one of those "You just gotta take their word, I guess." situations. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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