Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 199: Lisa Mur-coward-ski

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Inviso
10/06/18 4:35:07 PM
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Way to stand by your beliefs and vote your conscience, Lisa. Really great job representing your constituents.
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Eddv
10/06/18 4:37:05 PM
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Ehhh.

That's just her choosing to not dick over a coworker.

No one's mind is going to change if they have to delay til Tuesday.
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Inviso
10/06/18 4:38:39 PM
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Eddv posted...
Ehhh.

That's just her choosing to not dick over a coworker.

No one's mind is going to change if they have to delay til Tuesday.


It outright proves that her opposition was a calculated political ploy. "I'm gonna vote no...unless my vote could actually give Manchin a reason to flip, so I'm just not gonna vote." If she actually believed her shitty reasoning, she would've stuck to her guns.
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Jakyl25
10/06/18 4:39:09 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
The right is losing more and more of the female vote, too.


Source?

In results, not polls
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DoomTheGyarados
10/06/18 4:39:45 PM
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Inviso proving why the democratic party is worthless: fighting the battles over things that just do not matter. The only thing this changes is a guy gets to go to his daughter's wedding and nothing is literally pointlessly stalled.
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Nelson_Mandela
10/06/18 4:40:39 PM
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lmfao Inviso

Actually salty that Murkowski didn't want her meaningless vote counted so her colleague wouldn't have to fly back from his daughter's wedding

What a feminist!
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StealThisSheen
10/06/18 4:41:39 PM
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Collins is doubling down hard on "I believe Ford was assaulted. But I also think she's lying and it's not Kavanaugh."

At this point it'd probably be a good idea to just shutup and let people forget about it in time, but she appears to be trying to yuck it up in the limelight while she's got it
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Nelson_Mandela
10/06/18 4:42:07 PM
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UltimaterializerX

How do we Fly All These Ws?

Look at the leftist response to this. All the motivation we could ever want.

I say leftist response because we really need to separate them from democrats. I assure you Joe Sixpack on either side doesnt give a s*** about the daily Outrage Du Joir. Even right now, twitter is talking about Texas/Oklahoma. People care about paying their bills, putting food on the table, keeping their family healthy and happy, and maybe watching some sports or playing some video games or whatever. The people obsessed with politics 24/7 trying to tell Joe Sixpack Democrat or Average Joe Republican how to live his life are exactly why we have Trump in the first place. Its like, f*** off and leave us alone already. Theres a reason most places of employment have rules against talking sex, politics, and religion.

Oh, and all the virtue signaling? Not fooling anyone. Studies have been done about this. Leftists are 6 times more likely to steal, but theyll sit there all day about how you need to donate to charity and help social causes. How many refugees do you think these people have living in their home? How much volunteer work do you think they do in their local communities? How many abused women do you think they help council in real life? For all the virtue signaling about racism, how come they strive to live in affluent areas as far away from ghettos as possible? Do you see leftists offering rides to poor black people for free to help find them jobs? Do you see leftists donating ANY of their time? For how the left talks about black people, youd think South Chicago or Skid Row is where they spend 99% of their time. Hell, Id accept if they volunteered to help out at the local prison. There are professors who need TAs for prison classes. I could go on.

I see democrats and republicans working together at my church all the time. Never leftists. Look up Princeton Alliance Church some time. Theyre always sending teams to help local people out or sending people on mission trips to various parts of the world. Lots of churches do stuff like this. You wont see leftist SJWs signing up. Theyre too busy b****ing on social media all day.

If you want to know why Trump won, it wasnt racists or old white people or anything else. Its you politics-obsessed crybabies paired up with mainstream media to try forcing your views on everyone else. Look in a mirror. YOU are why we have Trump. YOU are why the country is divided. Normal people dont want your social outrage garbage, and until you figure that out and stop lecturing us all day you are going to keep losing. There are more of us normal everyday people than there ever will be of people like you.

Try playing nice for a two year election cycle, like democrats did from 2006 through 2008. There were some jokes about McCain being old, Palin being dumb, and Obama being black, but they were jokes. Whatever. We all knew that. For the most part, the only real midslinging was the Katrina response and the Iraq war two things deserving of bad press, by the way and do you know what happened? Democrats CRUSHED 2008.

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Nelson_Mandela
10/06/18 4:42:20 PM
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If that party continues to be run by leftists instead of democrats, theyll only keep riling people up against them. If you want to win elections maybe try not stabbing candidates in Brazil, breaking Ron Pauls ribs, shooting Scalise, sending ricin to Ted Cruz, hitting women with bike locks, kidnapping and scalping the mentally handicapped, calling ANYONE who votes republican a white supremacist (Candace Owens, really?), or not calling out the media when they defend this garbage. Democrats should be calling CNN and MSNBC 24/7 and demanding they knock it off, on top of pushing twitter to ban people who defend and promote this filth the way they celebrate whenever a conservative gets banned.

Basically, just become the party of people again instead of what youve become (the bad guys), and I guarantee youll be fine. But the current path will not work. Never has, never will.


Epic fucking 500th post
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TheRock1525
10/06/18 4:42:27 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
The right is losing more and more of the female vote, too.


Source?

In results, not polls


I mean women in Alabama were +16 for Doug Jones so yeah, being the party of "sexual assault isn't that bad" isn't winning over female voters.
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Eddv
10/06/18 4:43:24 PM
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But that sentence simply isn't true.

If she doesnt vote present the vote isnt tied; the vote is delayed.

I mean sure she could go all Hollywood Hulk Hogan all over the Republicans when she and Manchin unexpectedly flip but even then she wouldn't announce it ahead of time.
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Jakyl25
10/06/18 4:43:46 PM
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Really? Did THAT MANY more men vote than women to make the margin as close as it was?
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Inviso
10/06/18 4:43:58 PM
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DoomTheGyarados posted...
Inviso proving why the democratic party is worthless: fighting the battles over things that just do not matter. The only thing this changes is a guy gets to go to his daughter's wedding and nothing is literally pointlessly stalled.


I'm sorry, but if I was a senator and genuinely thought, for one reason or another that MY voters wanted me to vote "no", and I made a big show about voting "no"...I would at least have the balls to stick to my convictions. Oh, I'm so sorry that you had to choose between confirming a rapist to the court and attending your daughter's wedding...that's a real rough choice for you.

But nope, it's all politics and all a stage show to make the party look like they have a bare minimum of principles.
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TheRock1525
10/06/18 4:44:34 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
Collins is doubling down hard on "I believe Ford was assaulted. But I also think she's lying and it's not Kavanaugh."

At this point it'd probably be a good idea to just shutup and let people forget about it in time, but she appears to be trying to yuck it up in the limelight while she's got it


She's out in 2020 so I don't see why she should care either way. I mean Kavanaugh's first vote that has any effect on Roe v. Wade (whether it be in support of something like Iowa's Heartbeat Bill or an outright appeal) leaves her dead in the water with women constituents.
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SupremeZero
10/06/18 4:44:55 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Collins is doubling down hard on "I believe Ford was assaulted. But I also think she's lying and it's not Kavanaugh."

At this point it'd probably be a good idea to just shutup and let people forget about it in time, but she appears to be trying to yuck it up in the limelight while she's got it


She's out in 2020 so I don't see why she should care either way. I mean Kavanaugh's first vote that has any effect on Roe v. Wade (whether it be in support of something like Iowa's Heartbeat Bill or an outright appeal) leaves her dead in the water with women constituents.

She doesn't really seem to recognize that.
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psaltery
10/06/18 4:45:03 PM
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I never liked Lisa very much. But you got to give her and her voters credit for doing that Amazing write-in Senate victory. I think it's very kind of her to accommodate her friend in the Senate for his daughter's wedding.
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Inviso
10/06/18 4:45:20 PM
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Eddv posted...
But that sentence simply isn't true.

If she doesnt vote present the vote isnt tied; the vote is delayed.

I mean sure she could go all Hollywood Hulk Hogan all over the Republicans when she and Manchin unexpectedly flip but even then she wouldn't announce it ahead of time.


That's my point though. She's making her vote specifically so Manchin can't change his vote. She wants to appear principled, but not enough for her vote to actually matter and risk holding herself to her opinions.
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LordoftheMorons
10/06/18 4:45:29 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
Collins is doubling down hard on "I believe Ford was assaulted. But I also think she's lying and it's not Kavanaugh."

It's so fucking gross that the entire Senate GOP seems to have landed on this narrative. Even fucking Joe Manchin said something to this effect (and there's absolutely no reason to think it's likely to be the case).
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Nelson_Mandela
10/06/18 4:45:30 PM
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Inviso posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Inviso proving why the democratic party is worthless: fighting the battles over things that just do not matter. The only thing this changes is a guy gets to go to his daughter's wedding and nothing is literally pointlessly stalled.


I'm sorry, but if I was a senator and genuinely thought, for one reason or another that MY voters wanted me to vote "no", and I made a big show about voting "no"...I would at least have the balls to stick to my convictions. Oh, I'm so sorry that you had to choose between confirming a rapist to the court and attending your daughter's wedding...that's a real rough choice for you.

But nope, it's all politics and all a stage show to make the party look like they have a bare minimum of principles.

You should run for president on the Dem ticket
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Nelson_Mandela
10/06/18 4:46:02 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Collins is doubling down hard on "I believe Ford was assaulted. But I also think she's lying and it's not Kavanaugh."

It's so fucking gross that the entire Senate GOP seems to have landed on this narrative. Even fucking Joe Manchin said something to this effect (and there's absolutely no reason to think it's likely to be the case).

What if I don't believe that she was assaulted AND I think she was lying about it?
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pyresword
10/06/18 4:46:16 PM
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Ulti could you define "leftist" for me please? And/or tell me what the distinguishing characteristics of a leftist are?
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Eddv
10/06/18 4:46:24 PM
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Inviso posted...
But nope, it's all politics and all a stage show


Come on now you had to know this already
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LordoftheMorons
10/06/18 4:48:15 PM
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Nelson_Mandela posted...
What if I don't believe that she was assaulted AND I think she was lying about it?

Also gross, but better (since the people saying "I believe she was assaulted but not by Kav" just don't want to admit that they either don't believe her or do but don't care).
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TheRock1525
10/06/18 4:48:52 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Really? Did THAT MANY more men vote than women to make the margin as close as it was?


More women voted than men in Alabama according to the data shown. 51% to 49%. Moore won men +14.
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Nelson_Mandela
10/06/18 4:49:18 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
What if I don't believe that she was assaulted AND I think she was lying about it?

better

Thank you
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Nelson_Mandela
10/06/18 4:50:23 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Really? Did THAT MANY more men vote than women to make the margin as close as it was?


More women voted than men in Alabama according to the data shown. 51% to 49%. Moore won men +14.

Specifically black women are why Jones (thankfully) won. They voted for him like 99:1 or something insane.
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Nelson_Mandela
10/06/18 4:51:18 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
IMAGINE!

MY!

SHOCK!

https://abc7news.com/politics/ford-wont-pursue-sexual-misconduct-allegations-against-kavanaugh-further/4427136/?sf199507183=1

There is literally a zero percent chance she gives up the fight if her story was actually true. I called it a fake allegation day one, long before the president was doing it. And I. Was.
RIGHT.

Again.

Called it. Told you so. Vindicated. How DOES one man Fly All These Ws?

She also said she would "leave the country" if he is confirmed. But I guess that would require her to face her fears and get on a plane xfd
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TheRock1525
10/06/18 4:53:28 PM
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Of course Ford isn't going to pursue further charges, she literally didn't have enough evidence to ensure he didn't on the supreme fucking court, you think there's magically gonna be enough for a criminal conviction.

You are both amazingly dumb people.
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Eddv
10/06/18 4:53:34 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
What if I don't believe that she was assaulted AND I think she was lying about it?

Also gross, but better (since the people saying "I believe she was assaulted but not by Kav" just don't want to admit that they either don't believe her or do but don't care).


The initial hot take was "this was 30 years ago I don't care" and while thats gross that's better than "I am an actual moron" yes.
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TheRock1525
10/06/18 4:55:23 PM
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Nelson_Mandela posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Really? Did THAT MANY more men vote than women to make the margin as close as it was?


More women voted than men in Alabama according to the data shown. 51% to 49%. Moore won men +14.

Specifically black women are why Jones (thankfully) won. They voted for him like 99:1 or something insane.


Women are women. If you think, especially with shifting demographics, that just courting white women is gonna keep holding up we're seeing in election after election that's simply not the case since Trump's win.
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Ashethan
10/06/18 4:57:07 PM
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You know what I never want to hear again?

Republicans pretending to care about Transgender people assaulting people in the bathroom. They don't believe women who say they were assaulted at a party by a man dressed as a man. So they don't get to play pretend that they care about sexual assault by going after transgender people ever again.
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Corrik
10/06/18 4:58:07 PM
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I am in utter fucking awe at singling out the only Republican to side with the Dems as the problem. Holy hell.

Lol
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TheRock1525
10/06/18 4:58:58 PM
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It's just funny to me that Republicans have to use every underhanded tactic in the book (gerrymandering, literally not bringing a SC nominee up for a vote, voter disenfranchisement, etc.) plus Dems general incompetence to hang onto power and even then it's by the skin of their teeth. They can't outright win the popular vote, they have to lose by 3 million votes. More people vote Democrat than Republican every year but they put district lines in a way to maximize seats.

It all feels like borrowed time.
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Jakyl25
10/06/18 5:00:45 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Really? Did THAT MANY more men vote than women to make the margin as close as it was?


More women voted than men in Alabama according to the data shown. 51% to 49%. Moore won men +14.


A 30-point split along gender lines is really amazing
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Corrik
10/06/18 5:01:23 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
It's just funny to me that Republicans have to use every underhanded tactic in the book (gerrymandering, literally not bringing a SC nominee up for a vote, voter disenfranchisement, etc.) plus Dems general incompetence to hang onto power and even then it's by the skin of their teeth. They can't outright win the popular vote, they have to lose by 3 million votes. More people vote Democrat than Republican every year but they put district lines in a way to maximize seats.

It all feels like borrowed time.

Literally just tried to derailing a nominee based on fucking unsubstantiated accusations. Get fucking real.

Underhanded tactics... Lmfao.
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Jakyl25
10/06/18 5:04:01 PM
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Did Roy Moore ever actually concede BTW? Or is he still confident God is gonna make things right?
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Nelson_Mandela
10/06/18 5:04:40 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Did Roy Moore ever actually concede BTW? Or is he still confident God is gonna make things right?

He never conceded as far as I know
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Eddv
10/06/18 5:07:49 PM
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Corrik posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
It's just funny to me that Republicans have to use every underhanded tactic in the book (gerrymandering, literally not bringing a SC nominee up for a vote, voter disenfranchisement, etc.) plus Dems general incompetence to hang onto power and even then it's by the skin of their teeth. They can't outright win the popular vote, they have to lose by 3 million votes. More people vote Democrat than Republican every year but they put district lines in a way to maximize seats.

It all feels like borrowed time.

Literally just tried to derailing a nominee based on fucking unsubstantiated accusations. Get fucking real.

Underhanded tactics... Lmfao.


If these charges had been leveled at Robert Downey Jr someone else would be playing Iron Man in Avengers 4*

*Note I don't watch these films and have no idea if hes even still alive.
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Nelson_Mandela
10/06/18 5:08:34 PM
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Eddv posted...
Corrik posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
It's just funny to me that Republicans have to use every underhanded tactic in the book (gerrymandering, literally not bringing a SC nominee up for a vote, voter disenfranchisement, etc.) plus Dems general incompetence to hang onto power and even then it's by the skin of their teeth. They can't outright win the popular vote, they have to lose by 3 million votes. More people vote Democrat than Republican every year but they put district lines in a way to maximize seats.

It all feels like borrowed time.

Literally just tried to derailing a nominee based on fucking unsubstantiated accusations. Get fucking real.

Underhanded tactics... Lmfao.


If these charges had been leveled at Robert Downey Jr someone else would be playing Iron Man in Avengers 4*

*Note I don't watch these films and have no idea if hes even still alive.

Thank you for elucidating why MeToo is a fucking travesty
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Jakyl25
10/06/18 5:09:04 PM
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Seph, if I could offer you a deal that guarantees the GOP comes out of 2018 with a 52-48 Senate lead somehow, but in the process Beto defeats Cruz, would you accept?
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psaltery
10/06/18 5:09:22 PM
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Pessimistically, Moore said he expected Kavanaughs Republican supporters to lie down and allow Democrats to run the show with a politically motivated charade, as they did in his case. In fact, Trump endorsed both Moore and Kavanaugh after they were accused. And while Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) initially predicted Moore would be expelled from government if he were elected, he later delegated judgment to the voters and an ethics committee.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/20/brett-kavanaugh-wins-roy-moore-endorsement-not-that-he-asked-it/

Well Roy was right about the show but I don't think the Democrats ran it.
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TheRock1525
10/06/18 5:09:51 PM
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James Gunn was not allowed to direct Guardians of the Galaxy 3 due to pedophile jokes.

We hold marvel movies to a higher standard than SC judges.
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Corrik
10/06/18 5:11:03 PM
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I think if Ginsburg were to pass away that Trump should give the Dems a bone and pick Garland to replace her in the name of unity. I was just thinking about how bad people would freak out if he actually replaced a liberal justice with a conservative.
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psaltery
10/06/18 5:11:10 PM
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That's on Disney. They made the right decision. And they better not rehire him.
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scarletspeed7
10/06/18 5:12:13 PM
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psaltery posted...
That's on Disney. They made the right decision. And they better not rehire him.

Are you threatening Disney?
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Corrik
10/06/18 5:12:33 PM
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Eddv posted...
Corrik posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
It's just funny to me that Republicans have to use every underhanded tactic in the book (gerrymandering, literally not bringing a SC nominee up for a vote, voter disenfranchisement, etc.) plus Dems general incompetence to hang onto power and even then it's by the skin of their teeth. They can't outright win the popular vote, they have to lose by 3 million votes. More people vote Democrat than Republican every year but they put district lines in a way to maximize seats.

It all feels like borrowed time.

Literally just tried to derailing a nominee based on fucking unsubstantiated accusations. Get fucking real.

Underhanded tactics... Lmfao.


If these charges had been leveled at Robert Downey Jr someone else would be playing Iron Man in Avengers 4*

*Note I don't watch these films and have no idea if hes even still alive.

I am glad you are finally understanding how stupid the jump to judge is.
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