Poll of the Day > Do you support kathleen kennedy getting a 3 yr extension?

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DoubleOSnake
09/29/18 7:01:31 PM
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iirc she is the lucasfilm or star wars boss
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WastelandCowboy
09/29/18 7:10:25 PM
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I had to Google her to know what the hell was going on since I'm not a big fan of Star Wars.

Apparently, she's the head of Lucasfilms and the mastermind of the modern Star Wars brand and makes decisions regarding casting and spin-off movies.

For those who dont read the credits of the Star Wars movies and dont realize just how important Kennedy is to the series, shes the one in charge of making big decisions like, say, giving The Last Jedi director Rian Johnson his own spin-off trilogy despite the backlash from whiny babies, giving the Game Of Thrones guys their own movies, firing Colin Trevorrow from Episode IX, firing Phil Lord and Chris Miller from Solo, firing Josh Trank from whatever he was making, and re-hiring J.J. Abrams to direct Episode IX. Basically, everything you either like or dont like about Star Wars these days isat least one some levelbecause of Kathleen Kennedy, and shes going to keep doing her thing for another few years.


Honestly, I still don't care. Never was a fan of Star Wars when I was a kid and still am not a huge fan. The movies are good and I enjoyed episodes four, five, and six. Seven and eight were good, too, but I enjoyed four, five, and six more.
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Mead
09/29/18 7:11:28 PM
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Im totally ok with the producer of some of the most popular films of all time not losing her job because a bunch of social media manchildren lost their damn minds over not liking a couple girls in the new space wizard movie.
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Andromicus
09/29/18 7:12:27 PM
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Do you support Satan getting another 3 years running hell?
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Troll_Police_
09/29/18 7:18:31 PM
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yes i support kathleen kennedy further running a franchise into the ground that i havent really cared about in almost a decade
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Hop103
09/29/18 7:32:45 PM
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No, she needs to go, she ran a multi billion dollar franchise to the ground in less than a decade.
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aHappySacka
09/29/18 7:32:52 PM
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The silver lining is that she'll have more time to prove she's the death of Star Wars more so than she's already done.
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papercup
09/29/18 7:34:01 PM
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Hop103 posted...
No, she needs to go, she ran a multi billion dollar franchise to the ground in less than a decade.


This. Star Wars is a vehicle for selling toys. Star Wars in its current form doesn't sell toys, get somebody that knows what they're doing.
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adjl
09/29/18 7:44:04 PM
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papercup posted...
Hop103 posted...
No, she needs to go, she ran a multi billion dollar franchise to the ground in less than a decade.


This. Star Wars is a vehicle for selling toys. Star Wars in its current form doesn't sell toys, get somebody that knows what they're doing.


I'm pretty sure Disney knows a thing or two about IP's that sell toys. If they were really worried that Kennedy's direction was cutting into toy sales, they wouldn't have renewed her contract.
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Rad_Chad
09/29/18 7:53:19 PM
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I'd rather fall face first in a hobo's bare ass than not hate her.
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Nightengale
09/29/18 7:54:30 PM
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Where are people getting that Star Wars has been run into the ground? It's always been massive.
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Rad_Chad
09/29/18 7:56:25 PM
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Nightengale posted...
Where are people getting that Star Wars has been run into the ground? It's always been massive.

It isn't doing as well as it should be. People not liking your movies over and over will lead to a collapse, bro. Boring dads dragging their boring kids to every other SW feature isn't gonna save it long-term. You need the nerds to be stoked AF
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Cruddy_horse
09/29/18 8:25:22 PM
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Nightengale posted...
Where are people getting that Star Wars has been run into the ground? It's always been massive.


But it hasn't been shit out 6+ forced movies within 5 years or so massive. There's almost no quality anymore, like Disney handing the game rights to the Satan of game companies and all-but shutting Lucas-arts.
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likehelly
09/29/18 8:31:20 PM
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Nightengale posted...
Where are people getting that Star Wars has been run into the ground? It's always been massive.

because a few manchildren incels don't like that there's a few girls in the movies doing things that aren't girly

so they think the series went to shit
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Mead
09/29/18 8:53:15 PM
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papercup posted...
Hop103 posted...
No, she needs to go, she ran a multi billion dollar franchise to the ground in less than a decade.


This. Star Wars is a vehicle for selling toys. Star Wars in its current form doesn't sell toys, get somebody that knows what they're doing.


People dont spend money on Star Wars anymore?
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Nightengale
09/30/18 12:01:15 PM
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likehelly posted...
because a few manchildren incels don't like that there's a few girls in the movies doing things that aren't girly

Did they not... watch the original movies?
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TheOrangeMisfit
09/30/18 12:46:46 PM
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likehelly posted...
Nightengale posted...
Where are people getting that Star Wars has been run into the ground? It's always been massive.

because a few manchildren incels don't like that there's a few girls in the movies doing things that aren't girly

so they think the series went to shit


This isn't the reason at all and your strawman is pathetic. The movies suck with or without their sjw bullshit, but it's definitely not helping their quality.
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WhiskeyDisk
09/30/18 12:59:35 PM
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adjl posted...
papercup posted...
Hop103 posted...
No, she needs to go, she ran a multi billion dollar franchise to the ground in less than a decade.


This. Star Wars is a vehicle for selling toys. Star Wars in its current form doesn't sell toys, get somebody that knows what they're doing.


I'm pretty sure Disney knows a thing or two about IP's that sell toys. If they were really worried that Kennedy's direction was cutting into toy sales, they wouldn't have renewed her contract.


That was before virtue signalling became more important than the product.
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Nade Duck
09/30/18 1:17:42 PM
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hell no. the movies suck now.

they sucked before, but in a way that was still kind of entertaining.
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Blighboy
09/30/18 1:25:11 PM
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I've had various issues with The Last Jedi and The Force Awakens, but I dont know if that's really tied to Kennedy.

There are amazing movies buried in both of those titles. They needed some more thought put into them to really shine.

Solo and Rogue One were both good little side stories. Hell, if we only got anthology films from now on I'd probably be pleased. But I realize that's not financially viable.

She should at least stay on until IX is done. That trilogy doesn't need more shake ups. After that they should probably start expanding the universe with more well thought out trilogies.

I can't speak much on the toys. I hear the Lego is doing well. The black series looks like garbage tbh.
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faramir77
09/30/18 1:28:34 PM
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likehelly posted...
Nightengale posted...
Where are people getting that Star Wars has been run into the ground? It's always been massive.

because a few manchildren incels don't like that there's a few girls in the movies doing things that aren't girly

so they think the series went to shit


What a stupid analysis.

Star Wars 8 sucked. It sucking had nothing to do with women being in it and everything to do with it abandoning nearly everything that literally the entire series had established to push a story that was completely illogical without any clear focus.

Where is the story now compared to the end of Star Wars 7? Pretty much nowhere different, except some people are dead. Nothing new was realized.

I don't know if Kathleen Kennedy is the cause of this. I'd put more blame on Rian Johnson.
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Blighboy
09/30/18 1:40:05 PM
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I think Rian, JJ and Kennedy all share some portion of the blame. JJ wrote a nonsense movie which changed the state of the Star Wars universe in a really weird way, solely to retread ANH. Johnson decided to awkwardly get rid of the parts he didn't like (many of which were bad) but resulted in a sequel that felt disconnected from its prequel and didnt flow naturally. And Kennedy had at least some input in all of that.
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Troll_Police_
09/30/18 2:11:42 PM
#24:


Nightengale posted...
Where are people getting that Star Wars has been run into the ground? It's always been massive.


did you not see solos box office numbers? for a star wars movie it fucking bombed HARD
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Revelation34
09/30/18 3:56:20 PM
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They should get James Gunn for it instead.
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Nightengale
09/30/18 4:08:09 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
Nightengale posted...
Where are people getting that Star Wars has been run into the ground? It's always been massive.

did you not see solos box office numbers? for a star wars movie it fucking bombed HARD

Yeah, I liked Solo so I'm sad that it didn't do well. Its main problem was that no one really wanted it that bad. It didn't add anything to the franchise. They're putting new side films on hold for now, and I think that's a good decision. But 6 and 7 did well, and there's still one more sequel trilogy film to go, and another new trilogy in the works after that.
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DoubleOSnake
09/30/18 4:08:45 PM
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solo was a good movie but did not do well geez i don't get moviegoers
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Revelation34
09/30/18 4:09:38 PM
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Yeah it did awful.

Budget$275 million
Box office$392.8 million

What a flop.
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Nightengale
09/30/18 4:12:11 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Yeah it did awful.

Budget$275 million
Box office$392.8 million

What a flop.

Not sure if this is sarcastic but the costs of making a film are more than just its production budget. Solo actually came out at a loss.
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_AdjI_
09/30/18 4:12:35 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
Nightengale posted...
Where are people getting that Star Wars has been run into the ground? It's always been massive.


did you not see solos box office numbers? for a star wars movie it fucking bombed HARD


Oh boy, one relative flop that still ended up being profitable. Pack it up, boys. The series is dead.
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DoubleOSnake
09/30/18 4:13:01 PM
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solo was a good movie, might have been my favorite star wars movie of all time
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_AdjI_
09/30/18 4:15:08 PM
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I still haven't seen Solo. I didn't particularly try to avoid it, I just had no tremendous drive to go see it. Didn't help that it came out at a weird time, such that I didn't even realize it was coming out until it was about to launch. I should probably get around to watching it one of these days.
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Revelation34
09/30/18 4:16:03 PM
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Nightengale posted...
Not sure if this is sarcastic but the costs of making a film are more than just its production budget. Solo actually came out at a loss.


If you make any money more than your production then you make money. There was a $0 loss. Especially when you make more than $100 million than the budget.
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_AdjI_
09/30/18 4:17:10 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Nightengale posted...
Not sure if this is sarcastic but the costs of making a film are more than just its production budget. Solo actually came out at a loss.


If you make any money more than your production then you make money. There was a $0 loss. Especially when you make more than $100 million than the budget.


Unless you spend more than the difference on marketing, distribution, or any of the other extra-production costs.
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Blighboy
09/30/18 4:27:15 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Nightengale posted...
Not sure if this is sarcastic but the costs of making a film are more than just its production budget. Solo actually came out at a loss.


If you make any money more than your production then you make money. There was a $0 loss. Especially when you make more than $100 million than the budget.

This just isn't true. Unofficial guess rules is that if a movie makes less than twice its budget back it lost money.

That's not always precise, but Solo definitely lost a lot of money.

An origin movie for a character that doesn't need an origin just isn't that big a draw. I think the film needed more of a distinct identity.
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Revelation34
09/30/18 4:28:22 PM
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Blighboy posted...

This just isn't true. Unofficial guess rules is that if a movie makes less than twice its budget back it lost money.

That's not always precise, but Solo definitely lost a lot of money.

An origin movie for a character that doesn't need an origin just isn't that big a draw. I think the film needed more of a distinct identity.


Nah it's true.
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LeetCheet
09/30/18 4:58:46 PM
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I didn't have any problems with women in Star Wars. It's what some of the particular women did in the movie.
I'm not really that good at explaining stuff but I'll try.

Unlike Holdo in TLJ, Leia(in the original trilogy) did not shoot herself in the foot by not telling other people about their plan.
Y'know, just in case there are people who might doubt the leadership for not having a plan in order to survive and try desperate shit like mutiny in a last ditch effort.
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Troll_Police_
09/30/18 6:15:28 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
Nightengale posted...
Where are people getting that Star Wars has been run into the ground? It's always been massive.


did you not see solos box office numbers? for a star wars movie it fucking bombed HARD


Oh boy, one relative flop that still ended up being profitable. Pack it up, boys. The series is dead.


I mean, they canceled a bunch of other planned projects over how shit it did. The franchise certainly isn't dead, but youre a fool if you can't see its dying.
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WhiskeyDisk
10/01/18 12:48:22 AM
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LeetCheet posted...
I didn't have any problems with women in Star Wars. It's what some of the particular women did in the movie.
I'm not really that good at explaining stuff but I'll try.

Unlike Holdo in TLJ, Leia(in the original trilogy) did not shoot herself in the foot by not telling other people about their plan.
Y'know, just in case there are people who might doubt the leadership for not having a plan in order to survive and try desperate shit like mutiny in a last ditch effort.


Why a Droid couldn't have stayed behind for the Kamikaze attack is beyond me. Or even how ships with hyperdrive can't be set on autopilot to begin with...zzz
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DirtBasedSoap
10/01/18 12:56:14 AM
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@likehelly posted...
Nightengale posted...
Where are people getting that Star Wars has been run into the ground? It's always been massive.

because a few manchildren incels don't like that there's a few girls in the movies doing things that aren't girly

so they think the series went to shit

helly your brain is so smooth
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DirtBasedSoap
10/01/18 12:57:35 AM
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@Nade Duck posted...
hell no. the movies suck now.

they sucked before, but in a way that was still kind of entertaining.

you fuckin incel manchild!!!
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Lil69Leo
10/01/18 3:42:24 AM
#43:


Andromicus posted...
Do you support Satan getting another 3 years running hell?


yes? He is the most qualified.
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Lil69Leo
10/01/18 3:45:18 AM
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I wonder who knows how do suck a franchise dry better. Disney or a bunch of random people on a game forum.
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ForteEXE3850
10/01/18 4:04:15 AM
#45:


I don't agree with the decision, but I've also given up on Star Wars after The Last Jedi.

So it doesn't effect me anymore.
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Zeus
10/01/18 4:37:02 AM
#46:


Given that there's no real unified vision for the SW films, something needs to be done. While TLJ was better than TFA (obviously minus anything involving Rose because that whole subplot was garbage), I have very little hope for the sequels and the franchise as a whole.

Mead posted...
Im totally ok with the producer of some of the most popular films of all time not losing her job because a bunch of social media manchildren lost their damn minds over not liking a couple girls in the new space wizard movie.


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darkknight109
10/01/18 5:47:37 AM
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Yes, if only because the news of the extension has made a bunch of really shitty people absolutely lose their minds.
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Kungfu Kenobi
10/01/18 6:15:04 AM
#48:


I don't really care because I'm not a fan of Star Wars to begin with, but I'd prefer they have someone interested in making good movies running the thing.
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BADoglick
10/01/18 9:38:51 AM
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It's really disingenuous to assume people didn't like the new star wars because of sexism. There are several legitimate reasons why people don't like it. For instance:
-the pointless diversion at that casino planet
-that lady with the pink hair could have saved a lot of trouble for everyone by just being a little more forthcoming
-the comic relief was very inorganic and stuck out like a sore thumb
-the scene with Leia was hokey af

And those are just basic, obvious issues that have nothing to do with sexism and everything to do with bad writing.
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ParanoidObsessive
10/01/18 9:51:07 AM
#50:


Lil69Leo posted...
I wonder who knows how do suck a franchise dry better. Disney or a bunch of random people on a game forum.

Considering the results of Solo and Rebels, the answer might be the random people.

Disney spent $4 billion on a franchise they were hoping to milk for decades to come, and signs of fatigue are starting to set in within 6 years (technically only 3 years, if you only count the time since Episode VII and not pre-release prep-time). That is going to start scaring the shit out of some people. The real evidence is going to be Episode IX - if it claws the audience back Solo will be dismissed as an outlier and business will continue as usual. But if that puts up lower numbers from perceived backlash to Last Jedi (and Solo), Disney's going to start chopping heads.

It's also worth noting that Disney didn't choose Kathleen Kennedy at all - she was part of Lucasfilm before the sale and came across as part of the deal. Disney may not be happy with her being there, but lack contractual grounds to fire her. So how the franchise is being handled may not even be entirely Disney's call at this point.


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Nightengale
10/01/18 2:24:05 PM
#51:


BADoglick posted...
-the scene with Leia was hokey af

it's star wars. star wars is hokey af. also she's darth vader's daughter. come on
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