Poll of the Day > Is nobody watching the Kavanugh stream?

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Muffinz0rz 09/27/18 4:10:00 PM #1:	CE has already hit 500 on a stream topic --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Autumnsim (1-2): https://imgur.com/ieuHLr4 <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:909556092] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>CE has already hit 500 on a stream topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cruddy_horse 09/27/18 6:41:05 PM #2:	I imagine most people here have work today, I'm still at work about to leave and am only watching cause we have a tv in the main area and I'm still only kinda watching. --- equo ne credite! <cite>Cruddy_horse posted [p:909564857] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>I imagine most people here have work today, I'm still at work about to leave and am only watching cause we have a tv in the main area and I'm still only kinda watching.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWorstPoster 09/27/18 6:43:23 PM #3:	I am not going to waste my time watching some SJW wanting to take part in the #MeToo movement, with all evidence pointing to her as a liar, solely to disrupt the Supreme Court System, only because Trump is President and the nominee is a conservative. <cite>TheWorstPoster posted [p:909564993] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>I am not going to waste my time watching some SJW wanting to take part in the #MeToo movement, with all evidence pointing to her as a liar, solely to disrupt the Supreme Court System, only because Trump is President and the nominee is a conservative.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 09/27/18 6:47:59 PM #4:	TheWorstPoster posted... I am not going to waste my time watching some SJW wanting to take part in the #MeToo movement, with all evidence pointing to her as a liar, solely to disrupt the Supreme Court System, only because Trump is President and the nominee is a conservative. B-b-b-b-but you have to take her allegations as fact! --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:909565248] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>I am not going to waste my time watching some SJW wanting to take part in the #MeToo movement, with all evidence pointing to her as a liar, solely to disrupt the Supreme Court System, only because Trump is President and the nominee is a conservative.</quote> B-b-b-b-but you have to take her allegations as fact!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 09/27/18 6:48:03 PM #5:	Was watching it. Got tired of listening to Kavanaugh circle around simple yes/no questions. It's a simple question you fuck. Yes. No. That's all. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:909565252] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>Was watching it. Got tired of listening to Kavanaugh circle around simple yes/no questions. It's a simple question you fuck. Yes. No. That's all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 09/27/18 6:49:29 PM #6:	TheWorstPoster posted... with all evidence pointing to her as a liar Interesting - I wasn't aware of this. What evidence would that be? --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:909565324] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>with all evidence pointing to her as a liar</quote> Interesting - I wasn't aware of this. What evidence would that be?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/27/18 6:50:34 PM #7:	Ahhh yes I'm supposed to care about the left's secret weapon. Digging up and paying alleged victims of their opponents <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909565374] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>Ahhh yes I'm supposed to care about the left's secret weapon. Digging up and paying alleged victims of their opponents</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 09/27/18 6:56:41 PM #8:	OhhhJa posted... Digging up and paying alleged victims of their opponents Wow, that's a pretty serious allegation! I'm sure if the FBI were investigating this, they'd discover that payment. And since Ford has made these allegations and testimony under penalty of perjury, she would be risking 5+ years behind bars. It's kind of weird how the Republicans don't want to look into this, because it seems to me that sort of evidence would be completely damning to the Democrats' case and would make Kavanaugh almost a lock for confirmation. Where'd you hear this anyways? I can't help but notice it hasn't been in the news, and I'd think something like that would be a big deal. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:909565683] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Digging up and paying alleged victims of their opponents</quote> Wow, that's a pretty serious allegation! I'm sure if the FBI were investigating this, they'd discover that payment. And since Ford has made these allegations and testimony under penalty of perjury, she would be risking 5+ years behind bars. It's kind of weird how the Republicans don't want to look into this, because it seems to me that sort of evidence would be completely damning to the Democrats' case and would make Kavanaugh almost a lock for confirmation. Where'd you hear this anyways? I can't help but notice it hasn't been in the news, and I'd think something like that would be a big deal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/27/18 7:08:47 PM #9:	darkknight109 posted... Wow, that's a pretty serious allegation! I'm sure if the FBI were investigating this, they'd discover that payment. And since Ford has made these allegations and testimony under penalty of perjury, she would be risking 5+ years behind bars. Perjury?! For something that cant be proven one way or the other?! Wow what a risk! It's pretty obvious at this point that the FBI is a vehicle of the left <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909566257] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Wow, that's a pretty serious allegation! I'm sure if the FBI were investigating this, they'd discover that payment. And since Ford has made these allegations and testimony under penalty of perjury, she would be risking 5+ years behind bars.</quote> Perjury?! For something that cant be proven one way or the other?! Wow what a risk! It's pretty obvious at this point that the FBI is a vehicle of the left</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/27/18 7:10:26 PM #10:	WastelandCowboy posted... Was watching it. Got tired of listening to Kavanaugh circle around simple yes/no questions. It's a simple question you fuck. Yes. No. That's all. Have you stopped beating your wife yet? It's a simple yes/no question. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:909566327] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>Was watching it. Got tired of listening to Kavanaugh circle around simple yes/no questions. It's a simple question you fuck. Yes. No. That's all.</quote> Have you stopped beating your wife yet? It's a simple yes/no question. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DPsx7 09/27/18 7:12:18 PM #11:	F 'em all. Turned on the TV this morning to watch Make a Deal and Price is Right while doing my usual internet stuff. Some fool thought this was more important and preempted it. I quickly turned the TV off and its been that way since. Stupid news. Air it on a news channel and stop overwriting what I do want to watch. Also screw football and awards shows that do the same thing. <cite>DPsx7 posted [p:909566419] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>F 'em all. Turned on the TV this morning to watch Make a Deal and Price is Right while doing my usual internet stuff. Some fool thought this was more important and preempted it. I quickly turned the TV off and its been that way since. Stupid news. Air it on a news channel and stop overwriting what I do want to watch. Also screw football and awards shows that do the same thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 09/27/18 7:15:28 PM #12:	GreenKnight127 posted... B-b-b-b-but you have to take her allegations as fact! That she is making them, certainly, but regardless of the crime, it is still innocent till proven guilty. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:909566583] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>B-b-b-b-but you have to take her allegations as fact!</quote> That she is making them, certainly, but regardless of the crime, it is still innocent till proven guilty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 09/27/18 7:15:45 PM #13:	OhhhJa posted... Perjury?! For something that cant be proven one way or the other?! Paying for testimony is very, very illegal and can very readily be proven. OhhhJa posted... It's pretty obvious at this point that the FBI is a vehicle of the left Oh, I get it! Whew... for a second, I thought you were being serious here. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:909566597] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Perjury?! For something that cant be proven one way or the other?! </quote> Paying for testimony is very, very illegal and can very readily be proven. <cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>It's pretty obvious at this point that the FBI is a vehicle of the left</quote> Oh, I get it! Whew... for a second, I thought you were being serious here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 09/27/18 7:16:23 PM #14:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZsE0jdk8FU" data-time="&start=0 Fascinating. Her lawyers are doing this whole thing Pro Bono. "Not getting paid with no expectation of ever getting paid." And yet....she made a GoFundMe which has already gained over $500,000 to cover her "expenses". If your lawyers are doing it Pro Bono....there shouldn't be any expenses, sweety. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:909566634] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZsE0jdk8FU" data-time="&start=0 Fascinating. Her lawyers are doing this whole thing Pro Bono. "Not getting paid with no expectation of ever getting paid." And yet....she made a GoFundMe which has already gained over $500,000 to cover her "expenses". If your lawyers are doing it Pro Bono....there shouldn't be any expenses, sweety.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForteEXE3850 09/27/18 7:17:05 PM #15:	Can't say I'm interested in watching politicians be shameless morons. --- Mwahahahaha. <cite>ForteEXE3850 posted [p:909566675] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>Can't say I'm interested in watching politicians be shameless morons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/27/18 7:18:13 PM #16:	I know though darkknight... I'm supposed to believe that everyone the Democrats dont like is a pervert. And I'm supposed to not be aware that funneling money in ways that isnt easily detected is impossible. And I'm supposed to believe that the FBI just accidentally botched the Clinton investigation <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909566724] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>I know though darkknight... I'm supposed to believe that everyone the Democrats dont like is a pervert. And I'm supposed to not be aware that funneling money in ways that isnt easily detected is impossible. And I'm supposed to believe that the FBI just accidentally botched the Clinton investigation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 09/27/18 7:20:34 PM #17:	OhhhJa posted... I know though darkknight... I'm supposed to believe that everyone the Democrats dont like is a pervert. And I'm supposed to not be aware that funneling money in ways that isnt easily detected is impossible. I find it quietly hilarious that you are working yourself into a lather because you think someone made up a bunch of bullshit to slander someone... based on a bunch of bullshit you made up to slander them. OhhhJa posted... And I'm supposed to believe that the FBI just accidentally botched the Clinton investigation 16 posts before a conservative brought up Clinton in a topic completely unrelated to her. Not bad, but I don't think that's the record holder. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:909566852] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>I know though darkknight... I'm supposed to believe that everyone the Democrats dont like is a pervert. And I'm supposed to not be aware that funneling money in ways that isnt easily detected is impossible. </quote> I find it quietly hilarious that you are working yourself into a lather because you think someone made up a bunch of bullshit to slander someone... based on a bunch of bullshit you made up to slander them. <cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>And I'm supposed to believe that the FBI just accidentally botched the Clinton investigation</quote> 16 posts before a conservative brought up Clinton in a topic completely unrelated to her. Not bad, but I don't think that's the record holder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 09/27/18 7:24:05 PM #18:	why should I care about a foreigner who has been accused of a crime. The very proceeding is inherently biased... they gave the ACCUSER a lie detector test, that's outright backwards even if they were lying. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:909567010] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>why should I care about a foreigner who has been accused of a crime. The very proceeding is inherently biased... they gave the ACCUSER a lie detector test, that's outright backwards even if they were lying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 09/27/18 7:24:44 PM #19:	ParanoidObsessive posted... WastelandCowboy posted... Was watching it. Got tired of listening to Kavanaugh circle around simple yes/no questions. It's a simple question you fuck. Yes. No. That's all. Have you stopped beating your wife yet? It's a simple yes/no question. I did not have sexual relations with that woman. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:909567038] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>Was watching it. Got tired of listening to Kavanaugh circle around simple yes/no questions. It's a simple question you fuck. Yes. No. That's all.</quote> Have you stopped beating your wife yet? It's a simple yes/no question. </quote> <quote>I did not have sexual relations with that woman.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/27/18 7:28:44 PM #20:	Lokarin posted... The very proceeding is inherently biased... they gave the ACCUSER a lie detector test, that's outright backwards even if they were lying. It wouldn't matter regardless of who you gave the test to, considering lie detectors are notoriously unreliable and usually aren't allowed as evidence in any serious setting. Usually any time a lie detector is requested or used, it's by the person who is making a statement to "prove" that they're telling the truth, more as a PR stunt than any realistic method of determining guilt or innocence. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:909567272] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>The very proceeding is inherently biased... they gave the ACCUSER a lie detector test, that's outright backwards even if they were lying.</quote> It wouldn't matter regardless of who you gave the test to, considering lie detectors are notoriously unreliable and usually aren't allowed as evidence in any serious setting. Usually any time a lie detector is requested or used, it's by the person who is making a statement to "prove" that they're telling the truth, more as a PR stunt than any realistic method of determining guilt or innocence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 09/27/18 7:29:01 PM #21:	As much as I don't like Kavanaugh, he probably didn't do it. Every time she speaks she seems less and less credible. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:909567287] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>As much as I don't like Kavanaugh, he probably didn't do it. Every time she speaks she seems less and less credible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 09/27/18 7:30:12 PM #22:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Lokarin posted... The very proceeding is inherently biased... they gave the ACCUSER a lie detector test, that's outright backwards even if they were lying. It wouldn't matter regardless of who you gave the test to, considering lie detectors are notoriously unreliable and usually aren't allowed as evidence in any serious setting. Usually any time a lie detector is requested or used, it's by the person who is making a statement to "prove" that they're telling the truth, more as a PR stunt than any realistic method of determining guilt or innocence. Well, I mostly mean the first thing they thought of is to investigate the accuser. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:909567363] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>The very proceeding is inherently biased... they gave the ACCUSER a lie detector test, that's outright backwards even if they were lying.</quote> It wouldn't matter regardless of who you gave the test to, considering lie detectors are notoriously unreliable and usually aren't allowed as evidence in any serious setting. Usually any time a lie detector is requested or used, it's by the person who is making a statement to "prove" that they're telling the truth, more as a PR stunt than any realistic method of determining guilt or innocence. </quote> Well, I mostly mean the first thing they thought of is to investigate the accuser.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TigerTycoon 09/27/18 7:34:19 PM #23:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Lokarin posted... The very proceeding is inherently biased... they gave the ACCUSER a lie detector test, that's outright backwards even if they were lying. It wouldn't matter regardless of who you gave the test to, considering lie detectors are notoriously unreliable and usually aren't allowed as evidence in any serious setting. Usually any time a lie detector is requested or used, it's by the person who is making a statement to "prove" that they're telling the truth, more as a PR stunt than any realistic method of determining guilt or innocence. Lie detector tests are unreliable regardless. However, they are absolutely worthless in a scenario where there is no fear of serious punishment if you get caught lying. Because what lie detectors are really trying to detect is stress and nervousness. --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! <cite>TigerTycoon posted [p:909567568] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>The very proceeding is inherently biased... they gave the ACCUSER a lie detector test, that's outright backwards even if they were lying.</quote> It wouldn't matter regardless of who you gave the test to, considering lie detectors are notoriously unreliable and usually aren't allowed as evidence in any serious setting. Usually any time a lie detector is requested or used, it's by the person who is making a statement to "prove" that they're telling the truth, more as a PR stunt than any realistic method of determining guilt or innocence. </quote> Lie detector tests are unreliable regardless. However, they are absolutely worthless in a scenario where there is no fear of serious punishment if you get caught lying. Because what lie detectors are really trying to detect is stress and nervousness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BADoglick 09/27/18 7:34:37 PM #24:	To quote limp bizkit: "it's all a bunch of he says she says bull **" --- BADoglick to the Max! <cite>BADoglick posted [p:909567595] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>To quote limp bizkit: "it's all a bunch of he says she says bull **"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/27/18 7:36:02 PM #25:	Lokarin posted... Well, I mostly mean the first thing they thought of is to investigate the accuser. My point was that it's distinctly possible that her own supporters pushed for the idea in the first place, or if it DID come from the opposition, it was never really meant as a legitimate request and more just PR rhetoric. But regardless, it doesn't matter because it's about on par to saying you need to get a psychic into the courtroom to read the mind of the accused to determine whether or not they're actually guilty. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:909567677] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Well, I mostly mean the first thing they thought of is to investigate the accuser.</quote> My point was that it's distinctly possible that her own supporters pushed for the idea in the first place, or if it DID come from the opposition, it was never really meant as a legitimate request and more just PR rhetoric. But regardless, it doesn't matter because it's about on par to saying you need to get a psychic into the courtroom to read the mind of the accused to determine whether or not they're actually guilty. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/27/18 7:36:25 PM #26:	darkknight109 posted... OhhhJa posted... I know though darkknight... I'm supposed to believe that everyone the Democrats dont like is a pervert. And I'm supposed to not be aware that funneling money in ways that isnt easily detected is impossible. I find it quietly hilarious that you are working yourself into a lather because you think someone made up a bunch of bullshit to slander someone... based on a bunch of bullshit you made up to slander them. OhhhJa posted... And I'm supposed to believe that the FBI just accidentally botched the Clinton investigation 16 posts before a conservative brought up Clinton in a topic completely unrelated to her. Not bad, but I don't think that's the record holder. I'm not by any means anywhere near a conservative but nice try. You know as they say... the loser in a debate resorts to slander. Anyway, what about the numerous people who said they dont recall any of this ever happening under penalty of perjury including her close friend? I suppose that doesn't support your political leanings so that's gotta be bullshit right? And you sure used a lot of swear words for someone accusing me of getting angry my dude. The most notable fact is this... He's been under intense scrutiny for years but suddenly right now this lady comes out of the woodwork and people are denying her testimony and I'm supposed to believe it because why... you dont like him. Give me a break dude. The timing is so incredibly suspect and I'm supposed to believe the Democrats have no involvement. Lmao <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909567693] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>I know though darkknight... I'm supposed to believe that everyone the Democrats dont like is a pervert. And I'm supposed to not be aware that funneling money in ways that isnt easily detected is impossible. </quote> I find it quietly hilarious that you are working yourself into a lather because you think someone made up a bunch of bullshit to slander someone... based on a bunch of bullshit you made up to slander them. <cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>And I'm supposed to believe that the FBI just accidentally botched the Clinton investigation</quote> 16 posts before a conservative brought up Clinton in a topic completely unrelated to her. Not bad, but I don't think that's the record holder.</quote> I'm not by any means anywhere near a conservative but nice try. You know as they say... the loser in a debate resorts to slander. Anyway, what about the numerous people who said they dont recall any of this ever happening under penalty of perjury including her close friend? I suppose that doesn't support your political leanings so that's gotta be bullshit right? And you sure used a lot of swear words for someone accusing me of getting angry my dude. The most notable fact is this... He's been under intense scrutiny for years but suddenly right now this lady comes out of the woodwork and people are denying her testimony and I'm supposed to believe it because why... you dont like him. Give me a break dude. The timing is so incredibly suspect and I'm supposed to believe the Democrats have no involvement. Lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 09/27/18 7:39:36 PM #27:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Lokarin posted... Well, I mostly mean the first thing they thought of is to investigate the accuser. My point was that it's distinctly possible that her own supporters pushed for the idea in the first place, or if it DID come from the opposition, it was never really meant as a legitimate request and more just PR rhetoric. But regardless, it doesn't matter because it's about on par to saying you need to get a psychic into the courtroom to read the mind of the accused to determine whether or not they're actually guilty. I have no idea - it's not a story I'm following. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:909567861] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Well, I mostly mean the first thing they thought of is to investigate the accuser.</quote> My point was that it's distinctly possible that her own supporters pushed for the idea in the first place, or if it DID come from the opposition, it was never really meant as a legitimate request and more just PR rhetoric. But regardless, it doesn't matter because it's about on par to saying you need to get a psychic into the courtroom to read the mind of the accused to determine whether or not they're actually guilty. </quote> I have no idea - it's not a story I'm following.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 09/27/18 7:41:14 PM #28:	my mom has it on upstairs(lit rally listening in from my moms basement) and its dragging on and on I dont even care at this point. <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:909567948] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>my mom has it on upstairs(lit rally listening in from my moms basement) and its dragging on and on I dont even care at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny Eagle 09/27/18 7:43:10 PM #29:	I wouldn't have needed the stream were I interested in watching - CBS aired the hearings during the time period they normally air Let's Make a Deal and The Price is Right >_> --- "Life's a game. It's meant to be played." "Amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titanic." <cite>Johnny Eagle posted [p:909568043] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't have needed the stream were I interested in watching - CBS aired the hearings during the time period they normally air Let's Make a Deal and The Price is Right >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/27/18 7:46:09 PM #30:	GreenKnight127 posted... TheWorstPoster posted... I am not going to waste my time watching some SJW wanting to take part in the #MeToo movement, with all evidence pointing to her as a liar, solely to disrupt the Supreme Court System, only because Trump is President and the nominee is a conservative. B-b-b-b-but you have to take her allegations as fact! No you dont But that doesnt mean you should assume she is a liar either. Its almost like common sense is a thing --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:909568199] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>I am not going to waste my time watching some SJW wanting to take part in the #MeToo movement, with all evidence pointing to her as a liar, solely to disrupt the Supreme Court System, only because Trump is President and the nominee is a conservative.</quote> B-b-b-b-but you have to take her allegations as fact!</quote> No you dont But that doesnt mean you should assume she is a liar either. Its almost like common sense is a thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 09/27/18 7:49:53 PM #31:	But do you believe in God? --- https://imgur.com/4ihiyS2 "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:909568407] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>But do you believe in God?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/27/18 7:50:22 PM #32:	Mead posted... GreenKnight127 posted... TheWorstPoster posted... I am not going to waste my time watching some SJW wanting to take part in the #MeToo movement, with all evidence pointing to her as a liar, solely to disrupt the Supreme Court System, only because Trump is President and the nominee is a conservative. B-b-b-b-but you have to take her allegations as fact! No you dont But that doesnt mean you should assume she is a liar either. Its almost like common sense is a thing I can however take his side when her close friends are testifying that they have never met him nor recall this ever happening and he has no known history despite intense scrutiny and she is sounding incredibly unreliable at this point. Common sense is telling me not to take her testimony at face value. Sorry dude I dont even like the dude's politics but it is what it is <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909568435] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>I am not going to waste my time watching some SJW wanting to take part in the #MeToo movement, with all evidence pointing to her as a liar, solely to disrupt the Supreme Court System, only because Trump is President and the nominee is a conservative.</quote> B-b-b-b-but you have to take her allegations as fact!</quote> No you dont But that doesnt mean you should assume she is a liar either. Its almost like common sense is a thing</quote> I can however take his side when her close friends are testifying that they have never met him nor recall this ever happening and he has no known history despite intense scrutiny and she is sounding incredibly unreliable at this point. Common sense is telling me not to take her testimony at face value. Sorry dude I dont even like the dude's politics but it is what it is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 09/27/18 8:03:52 PM #33:	Mead posted... GreenKnight127 posted... TheWorstPoster posted... I am not going to waste my time watching some SJW wanting to take part in the #MeToo movement, with all evidence pointing to her as a liar, solely to disrupt the Supreme Court System, only because Trump is President and the nominee is a conservative. B-b-b-b-but you have to take her allegations as fact! No you dont But that doesnt mean you should assume she is a liar either. Its almost like common sense is a thing Assume she is a liar? Never said that. I said you shouldn't take her allegations as FACT by default. Which many people (including the media) sure as fuck are. We should be critical and skeptical of her testimony, because it is about an event that happened sooooo long ago, and it's all conveniently timed to come out when Kavanaugh is up for the Supreme Court. Suspicious as hell. Kavanaugh should be given the BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT until solid evidence comes forward to prove her allegations are factual. Which hasn't happened yet. Which might never happen. Innocent until proven guilty. That IS how our legal system should work. This isn't a "job interview" he is dealing with. This is a witchhunt. An interrogation. A joke. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:909569117] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>I am not going to waste my time watching some SJW wanting to take part in the #MeToo movement, with all evidence pointing to her as a liar, solely to disrupt the Supreme Court System, only because Trump is President and the nominee is a conservative.</quote> B-b-b-b-but you have to take her allegations as fact!</quote> No you dont But that doesnt mean you should assume she is a liar either. Its almost like common sense is a thing</quote> Assume she is a liar? Never said that. I said you shouldn't take her allegations as FACT by default. Which many people (including the media) sure as fuck are. We should be critical and skeptical of her testimony, because it is about an event that happened sooooo long ago, and it's all conveniently timed to come out when Kavanaugh is up for the Supreme Court. Suspicious as hell. Kavanaugh should be given the BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT until solid evidence comes forward to prove her allegations are factual. Which hasn't happened yet. Which might never happen. Innocent until proven guilty. That IS how our legal system should work. This isn't a "job interview" he is dealing with. This is a witchhunt. An interrogation. A joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/27/18 8:09:36 PM #34:	GreenKnight127 posted... Mead posted... GreenKnight127 posted... TheWorstPoster posted... I am not going to waste my time watching some SJW wanting to take part in the #MeToo movement, with all evidence pointing to her as a liar, solely to disrupt the Supreme Court System, only because Trump is President and the nominee is a conservative. B-b-b-b-but you have to take her allegations as fact! No you dont But that doesnt mean you should assume she is a liar either. Its almost like common sense is a thing Assume she is a liar? Never said that. I said you shouldn't take her allegations as FACT by default. Which many people (including the media) sure as fuck are. We should be critical and skeptical of her testimony, because it is about an event that happened sooooo long ago, and it's all conveniently timed to come out when Kavanaugh is up for the Supreme Court. Suspicious as hell. Kavanaugh should be given the BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT until solid evidence comes forward to prove her allegations are factual. Which hasn't happened yet. Which might never happen. Innocent until proven guilty. That IS how our legal system should work. This isn't a "job interview" he is dealing with. This is a witchhunt. An interrogation. A joke. Many members of the media are also assuming she is a liar by default Either extreme is wrongheaded. Its in everyones best interest for a quick investigation to take place. If there is something to it then chances are investigators will pull the right thread and find something, but if there isnt then republicans can honestly say look we had an investigation and they found nothing, what more do you want from us? --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:909569421] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheWorstPoster posted...</cite> <quote>I am not going to waste my time watching some SJW wanting to take part in the #MeToo movement, with all evidence pointing to her as a liar, solely to disrupt the Supreme Court System, only because Trump is President and the nominee is a conservative.</quote> B-b-b-b-but you have to take her allegations as fact!</quote> No you dont But that doesnt mean you should assume she is a liar either. Its almost like common sense is a thing</quote> Assume she is a liar? Never said that. I said you shouldn't take her allegations as FACT by default. Which many people (including the media) sure as fuck are. We should be critical and skeptical of her testimony, because it is about an event that happened sooooo long ago, and it's all conveniently timed to come out when Kavanaugh is up for the Supreme Court. Suspicious as hell. Kavanaugh should be given the BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT until solid evidence comes forward to prove her allegations are factual. Which hasn't happened yet. Which might never happen. Innocent until proven guilty. That IS how our legal system should work. This isn't a "job interview" he is dealing with. This is a witchhunt. An interrogation. A joke.</quote> Many members of the media are also assuming she is a liar by default Either extreme is wrongheaded. Its in everyones best interest for a quick investigation to take place. If there is something to it then chances are investigators will pull the right thread and find something, but if there isnt then republicans can honestly say look we had an investigation and they found nothing, what more do you want from us?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 09/27/18 8:14:06 PM #35:	OhhhJa posted... I'm not by any means anywhere near a conservative but nice try. LOL! Let me guess, another "left-leaning centrist"? OhhhJa posted... You know as they say... the loser in a debate resorts to slander. a) Literally no one says that b) Since when is "conservative" slander? OhhhJa posted... Anyway, what about the numerous people who said they dont recall any of this ever happening under penalty of perjury including her close friend? I suppose that doesn't support your political leanings so that's gotta be bullshit right? "I don't remember" is not the same thing as "I remember, but it didn't turn out the way she said it did." Ford even explained this today - her friend wasn't in the room, she didn't witness anything. To her it would have been entirely unremarkable, so it's not surprising she doesn't have any distinct memories of the night in question. OhhhJa posted... And you sure used a lot of swear words for someone accusing me of getting angry my dude. Yeah, me and my big potty mouth, with two whole swears in three posts. I know, I should have been a pirate, right? OhhhJa posted... The most notable fact is this... He's been under intense scrutiny for years but suddenly right now this lady comes out of the woodwork and people are denying her testimony and I'm supposed to believe it because why... you dont like him. Give me a break dude. The timing is so incredibly suspect and I'm supposed to believe the Democrats have no involvement. Lmao She came out of the woodwork when Kavanaugh's name started showing up in the papers. That's not that uncommon. She'd done her best to put this all behind her, then all of a sudden she sees the man who attacked her vying for one of the most powerful offices in the land? Yeah, if I was in her shoes, I'd come forward too. The actual timing is absolutely the work of the Democrats and that hasn't been denied by anyone involved. The Dems had a letter from Ford months ago and they sat on it until now in an effort to maximize their own political gain; if Kavanaugh is not confirmed and/or withdraws/is withdrawn, the next nomination won't be voted on until after the midterms, giving the Dems a chance to retake the senate and deny Trump the nomination. It's naked political gamesmanship and I'm absolutely mortified by it... or at least I would be, if the Republicans hadn't pulled the exact same bullshit not two years ago with Merrick Garland, with even less justification. So fuck Mitch McConnell forever for spending most of the last 10 years steadily politicizing what is supposed to be an apolitical process, but we're here now. McConnell's justification two years ago was "The American people deserve the opportunity, through this election, to choose who nominates the next Supreme Court justice", so I find it a little disingenuous to complain about the Democrats giving the American people an opportunity to pick who confirms the next Supreme Court justice through an upcoming election. Anyways, since you brought it up, I'll go ahead and repost my reasonings for thinking that Ford is much more credible than Kavanaugh at the moment. I know how much you dislike reading my longer posts, so I do apologize for taxing your attention span, but since we're into it now... --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:909569651] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not by any means anywhere near a conservative but nice try. </quote> LOL! Let me guess, another "left-leaning centrist"? <cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>You know as they say... the loser in a debate resorts to slander. </quote> a) Literally no one says that b) Since when is "conservative" slander? <cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Anyway, what about the numerous people who said they dont recall any of this ever happening under penalty of perjury including her close friend? I suppose that doesn't support your political leanings so that's gotta be bullshit right? </quote> "I don't remember" is not the same thing as "I remember, but it didn't turn out the way she said it did." Ford even explained this today - her friend wasn't in the room, she didn't witness anything. To her it would have been entirely unremarkable, so it's not surprising she doesn't have any distinct memories of the night in question. <cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>And you sure used a lot of swear words for someone accusing me of getting angry my dude. </quote> Yeah, me and my big potty mouth, with two whole swears in three posts. I know, I should have been a pirate, right? <cite>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>The most notable fact is this... He's been under intense scrutiny for years but suddenly right now this lady comes out of the woodwork and people are denying her testimony and I'm supposed to believe it because why... you dont like him. Give me a break dude. The timing is so incredibly suspect and I'm supposed to believe the Democrats have no involvement. Lmao</quote> She came out of the woodwork when Kavanaugh's name started showing up in the papers. That's not that uncommon. She'd done her best to put this all behind her, then all of a sudden she sees the man who attacked her vying for one of the most powerful offices in the land? Yeah, if I was in her shoes, I'd come forward too. The actual timing is absolutely the work of the Democrats and that hasn't been denied by anyone involved. The Dems had a letter from Ford months ago and they sat on it until now in an effort to maximize their own political gain; if Kavanaugh is not confirmed and/or withdraws/is withdrawn, the next nomination won't be voted on until after the midterms, giving the Dems a chance to retake the senate and deny Trump the nomination. It's naked political gamesmanship and I'm absolutely mortified by it... or at least I would be, if the Republicans hadn't pulled the exact same bullshit not two years ago with Merrick Garland, with even less justification. So fuck Mitch McConnell forever for spending most of the last 10 years steadily politicizing what is supposed to be an apolitical process, but we're here now. McConnell's justification two years ago was "The American people deserve the opportunity, through this election, to choose who nominates the next Supreme Court justice", so I find it a little disingenuous to complain about the Democrats giving the American people an opportunity to pick who confirms the next Supreme Court justice through an upcoming election. Anyways, since you brought it up, I'll go ahead and repost my reasonings for thinking that Ford is much more credible than Kavanaugh at the moment. I know how much you dislike reading my longer posts, so I do apologize for taxing your attention span, but since we're into it now...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 09/27/18 8:15:08 PM #36:	Here is my list of reasons why Ford is - at least to my eye - currently coming across as much more believable than Kavanaugh on the subject of these allegations (reposted from another topic). 1) In general, accusations are true far more often than they are fabricated. If I told you "Person A accused Person B of sexually assaulting them while Person B insisted nothing happened" and told you nothing else about the situation or either person, then asked you to bet on whether the allegations were true or not, smart money would be on Person A's version of events by an enormous margin. 2) Ford has been talking about this for long before Kavanaugh's name came up for the Supreme Court, discussing this with her personal therapist six years ago, as evinced by the therapist's notes. This strongly suggests that this was not a story concocted for political gain. 3) In addition, details of Ford's story don't make sense for a fabrication. For instance, she puts Mark Judge in the room with her and Kavanaugh - why would she do that if she made it up? If the story was a fabrication, that would put two people's word against her one. If I was in her shoes and I was going to put anyone in this story in the room with me, it would be someone loyal to me who could back up my version of events; Judge is a friend of Kavanaugh's and is a reasonably well-known conservative to boot. 4) She voluntarily took a lie detector test (and passed) and has been strident in her calls for an FBI investigation. Again, these are not the actions of someone who has made up a story - people generally want less oversight of their lies, not more, because if this story is a fabrication the FBI could easily turn up holes in the story that would exonerate Kavanaugh. 5) By contrast, Kavanaugh's conduct during this whole thing has not been encouraging. In spite of the fact that he is being - according to his claims - falsely accused, he has, to the best of my knowledge, not spoken in support of an independent investigation even once. If I was being falsely accused, I'd certainly want my name cleared as quickly and thoroughly as possible. 6) Mark Judge hasn't been helping his friend's case either. He gave a terse statement that nothing happened and he didn't want to talk about it, then immediately went into hiding to escape the media firestorm that followed. Now, in complete fairness to Judge, having the media hounding you is not a pleasant experience, so I can at least partially understand that reaction, but at the same time a good friend of yours is being accused of some pretty serious stuff, with you being placed as a witness. Certainly if my friend was falsely being accused of something and I was being labelled as a witness, I would immediately and repeatedly declare his innocence. There's an excellent question to be asked here, and few people have bothered doing it - if Mark Judge is telling the truth and nothing really did happen, why doesn't he want to talk about it further? --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:909569706] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>Here is my list of reasons why Ford is - at least to my eye - currently coming across as much more believable than Kavanaugh on the subject of these allegations (reposted from another topic). <quote>1) In general, accusations are true far more often than they are fabricated. If I told you "Person A accused Person B of sexually assaulting them while Person B insisted nothing happened" and told you nothing else about the situation or either person, then asked you to bet on whether the allegations were true or not, smart money would be on Person A's version of events by an enormous margin. 2) Ford has been talking about this for long before Kavanaugh's name came up for the Supreme Court, discussing this with her personal therapist six years ago, as evinced by the therapist's notes. This strongly suggests that this was not a story concocted for political gain. 3) In addition, details of Ford's story don't make sense for a fabrication. For instance, she puts Mark Judge in the room with her and Kavanaugh - why would she do that if she made it up? If the story was a fabrication, that would put two people's word against her one. If I was in her shoes and I was going to put anyone in this story in the room with me, it would be someone loyal to me who could back up my version of events; Judge is a friend of Kavanaugh's and is a reasonably well-known conservative to boot. 4) She voluntarily took a lie detector test (and passed) and has been strident in her calls for an FBI investigation. Again, these are not the actions of someone who has made up a story - people generally want less oversight of their lies, not more, because if this story is a fabrication the FBI could easily turn up holes in the story that would exonerate Kavanaugh. 5) By contrast, Kavanaugh's conduct during this whole thing has not been encouraging. In spite of the fact that he is being - according to his claims - falsely accused, he has, to the best of my knowledge, not spoken in support of an independent investigation even once. If I was being falsely accused, I'd certainly want my name cleared as quickly and thoroughly as possible. 6) Mark Judge hasn't been helping his friend's case either. He gave a terse statement that nothing happened and he didn't want to talk about it, then immediately went into hiding to escape the media firestorm that followed. Now, in complete fairness to Judge, having the media hounding you is not a pleasant experience, so I can at least partially understand that reaction, but at the same time a good friend of yours is being accused of some pretty serious stuff, with you being placed as a witness. Certainly if my friend was falsely being accused of something and I was being labelled as a witness, I would immediately and repeatedly declare his innocence. There's an excellent question to be asked here, and few people have bothered doing it - if Mark Judge is telling the truth and nothing really did happen, why doesn't he want to talk about it further?</quote></quote> ... 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darkknight109 09/27/18 8:15:42 PM #37:	7) Kavanaugh, when given the opportunity to defend himself, gave a view of his adolescence that was, to put it politely, a touch inconsistent with other people's recollections of it. In his interview with Fox this morning, he basically painted himself as a virgin until he was in his 20s, who was too busy with church and school to bother much with parties and girls. Here's the exact quote from the interview: I went to an all-boys Catholic high school, a Jesuit high school, where I was focused on academics and athletics, going to church every Sunday at Little Flower, working on my service projects, and friendship, friendship with my fellow classmates and friendship with girls from the local all-girls Catholic schools. And yes, there were parties, and the drinking age was 18, and yes, the seniors were legal and had beer there. And yes, people might have had too many beers on occasion and people generally in high school. I think all of us have probably done things we look back on in high school and regret or cringe a bit, but thats not what were talking about. Sounds downright wholesome - not a whisper of his own participation and certainly no hints of illegal, underage drinking. Too much churching going on for that. This despite the fact that many of Kavanaugh's classmates - even his friends - described him as a nice guy, but a hard partier who frequently got hammered when the drinks were flowing and turned mean when he did. And this despite the fact that, in 2014, Kavanaugh himself gave a speech to the Yale Law School Federalist Society that included some anecdotes of his own heavy drinking. Now, partying hard in college is not a crime, and Kavanaugh easily could have helped his own case here by basically saying "Yes, I used to party in college. Yes, I got drunk from time to time. I was young and careless and yes, I did some things I'm not proud of. I made mistakes, as all young people tend to do at that age. But I've grown since then and I'm not the same foolish young man I was. My experiences, rough and tumble though they may have been, helped shape me into something better. I have learned from them and grown into what I hope is a much wiser man." That, at least, would be an accurate characterization of what went on. He could still deny the accusations while admitting he had a habit of partying in high school and university; but to try and paint himself like a straight-laced golden-boy through and through instantly tells me he's lying and, by extension, makes me doubt his honesty on some of the far more serious questions he's being asked. 8) There is now a second accuser (which the Republicans knew about for over a week - not coincidentally, right around the time they started pushing hard deadlines to try and get Kavanaugh confirmed quickly, presumably before the accusation got out) and rumblings of a third. One allegation could potentially be chalked up to someone lying (though, based on the above points it's not looking good), but multiple, unreleated women coming forward to allege similar treatment? For them all to be lying is much, much more of a stretch (I can't even recall a case where numerous, unreleated allegations against someone for sexual crimes were found to all be fabrications). Nothing is proven yet, of course, but given the circumstances I certainly wouldn't be hiring Kavanaugh if he was applying to work at my business... --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:909569725] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><quote>7) Kavanaugh, when given the opportunity to defend himself, gave a view of his adolescence that was, to put it politely, a touch inconsistent with other people's recollections of it. In his interview with Fox this morning, he basically painted himself as a virgin until he was in his 20s, who was too busy with church and school to bother much with parties and girls. Here's the exact quote from the interview: <quote>I went to an all-boys Catholic high school, a Jesuit high school, where I was focused on academics and athletics, going to church every Sunday at Little Flower, working on my service projects, and friendship, friendship with my fellow classmates and friendship with girls from the local all-girls Catholic schools. And yes, there were parties, and the drinking age was 18, and yes, the seniors were legal and had beer there. And yes, people might have had too many beers on occasion and people generally in high school. I think all of us have probably done things we look back on in high school and regret or cringe a bit, but thats not what were talking about.</quote> Sounds downright wholesome - not a whisper of his own participation and certainly no hints of illegal, underage drinking. Too much churching going on for that. This despite the fact that many of Kavanaugh's classmates - even his friends - described him as a nice guy, but a hard partier who frequently got hammered when the drinks were flowing and turned mean when he did. And this despite the fact that, in 2014, Kavanaugh himself gave a speech to the Yale Law School Federalist Society that included some anecdotes of his own heavy drinking. Now, partying hard in college is not a crime, and Kavanaugh easily could have helped his own case here by basically saying "Yes, I used to party in college. Yes, I got drunk from time to time. I was young and careless and yes, I did some things I'm not proud of. I made mistakes, as all young people tend to do at that age. But I've grown since then and I'm not the same foolish young man I was. My experiences, rough and tumble though they may have been, helped shape me into something better. I have learned from them and grown into what I hope is a much wiser man." That, at least, would be an accurate characterization of what went on. He could still deny the accusations while admitting he had a habit of partying in high school and university; but to try and paint himself like a straight-laced golden-boy through and through instantly tells me he's lying and, by extension, makes me doubt his honesty on some of the far more serious questions he's being asked. 8) There is now a second accuser (which the Republicans knew about for over a week - not coincidentally, right around the time they started pushing hard deadlines to try and get Kavanaugh confirmed quickly, presumably before the accusation got out) and rumblings of a third. One allegation could potentially be chalked up to someone lying (though, based on the above points it's not looking good), but multiple, unreleated women coming forward to allege similar treatment? For them all to be lying is much, much more of a stretch (I can't even recall a case where numerous, unreleated allegations against someone for sexual crimes were found to all be fabrications). Nothing is proven yet, of course, but given the circumstances I certainly wouldn't be hiring Kavanaugh if he was applying to work at my business...</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 09/27/18 8:33:01 PM #38:	darkknight109 posted... Wow, that's a pretty serious allegation! I'm sure if the FBI were investigating this, they'd discover that payment. Will they find the mattress full of cash, though?! darkknight109 posted... And since Ford has made these allegations and testimony under penalty of perjury, she would be risking 5+ years behind bars. Kind of like how Bill Clinton got 5+ years for perjury, right? Mead posted... Its in everyones best interest for a quick investigation to take place. There's no such thing as a quick investigation and only person whose interests it's in is the Democrats who can use this to stall out the proceedings in the hopes of winning back the majority then veto'ing Trump's choices for the next 2-6 years. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:909570637] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Wow, that's a pretty serious allegation! I'm sure if the FBI were investigating this, they'd discover that payment.</quote> Will they find the mattress full of cash, though?! <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>And since Ford has made these allegations and testimony under penalty of perjury, she would be risking 5+ years behind bars.</quote> Kind of like how Bill Clinton got 5+ years for perjury, right? <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Its in everyones best interest for a quick investigation to take place.</quote> There's no such thing as a quick investigation and only person whose interests it's in is the Democrats who can use this to stall out the proceedings in the hopes of winning back the majority then veto'ing Trump's choices for the next 2-6 years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 09/27/18 8:33:47 PM #39:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nzg5Bf__V4" data-time=" Excellent. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:909570671] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nzg5Bf__V4" data-time=" Excellent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/27/18 8:45:00 PM #40:	Zeus posted... darkknight109 posted... Wow, that's a pretty serious allegation! I'm sure if the FBI were investigating this, they'd discover that payment. Will they find the mattress full of cash, though?! darkknight109 posted... And since Ford has made these allegations and testimony under penalty of perjury, she would be risking 5+ years behind bars. Kind of like how Bill Clinton got 5+ years for perjury, right? Mead posted... Its in everyones best interest for a quick investigation to take place. There's no such thing as a quick investigation and only person whose interests it's in is the Democrats who can use this to stall out the proceedings in the hopes of winning back the majority then veto'ing Trump's choices for the next 2-6 years. I mean youre wrong. If there arent witnesses or corroborating factors then an investigation can be wrapped up in just a few days. If things do end up getting delayed and there is a blue wave as some predict than honestly it would be hard to call that anything but Karmic justice after what republicans pulled under the Obama administration regarding his Supreme Court nominee. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:909571240] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Wow, that's a pretty serious allegation! I'm sure if the FBI were investigating this, they'd discover that payment.</quote> Will they find the mattress full of cash, though?! <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>And since Ford has made these allegations and testimony under penalty of perjury, she would be risking 5+ years behind bars.</quote> Kind of like how Bill Clinton got 5+ years for perjury, right? <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Its in everyones best interest for a quick investigation to take place.</quote> There's no such thing as a quick investigation and only person whose interests it's in is the Democrats who can use this to stall out the proceedings in the hopes of winning back the majority then veto'ing Trump's choices for the next 2-6 years.</quote> I mean youre wrong. If there arent witnesses or corroborating factors then an investigation can be wrapped up in just a few days. If things do end up getting delayed and there is a blue wave as some predict than honestly it would be hard to call that anything but Karmic justice after what republicans pulled under the Obama administration regarding his Supreme Court nominee.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/27/18 8:45:57 PM #41:	darkknight109 posted... LOL! Let me guess, another "left-leaning centrist"? Surprise surprise. Immediately resorting to personal attacks again and related to another user at that. Well done! darkknight109 posted... Yeah, me and my big potty mouth, with two whole swears in three posts. I know, I should have been a pirate, right? You accused me of being upset but honestly you sound far more upset my dude a) Literally no one says that b) Since when is "conservative" slander? So you dont agree that attacking someone's character is poor argument form? I did at least consider you more intelligent than that. She came out of the woodwork when Kavanaugh's name started showing up in the papers. That's not that uncommon. She'd done her best to put this all behind her, then all of a sudden she sees the man who attacked her vying for one of the most powerful offices in the land? Yeah, if I was in her shoes, I'd come forward too. Ah yes. The latest fad... the "he's famous now" argument despite the fact that he's been well known and in positions of power for years. But now suddenly that he's in a position of power that more immediately threatens the power of Democrats it's the time. darkknight109 posted... I know how much you dislike reading my longer posts, so I do apologize for taxing your attention span, but since we're into it now... Nice. Personal attacks again. Keep em coming dude. You're just showing how unhinged and angry you're getting every time. darkknight109 posted... In general, accusations are true far more often than they are fabricated. If I told you "Person A accused Person B of sexually assaulting them while Person B insisted nothing happened" and told you nothing else about the situation or either person, then asked you to bet on whether the allegations were true or not, smart money would be on Person A's version of events by an enormous margin. Fair. But there have still been plenty of false accusations and it's more suspicious when its someone in a position of power with a more immediate threat to the Democrats power. Response to #2 (had to delete a quote block) Sorry bud but it looks like the alleged therapist notes and polygraph test have not been turned over to anyone so that is speculation. Not to mention, polygraphs are far from reliable anyhow. darkknight109 posted... 3) In addition, details of Ford's story don't make sense for a fabrication. For instance, she puts Mark Judge in the room with her and Kavanaugh - why would she do that if she made it up? If the story was a fabrication, that would put two people's word against her one. If I was in her shoes and I was going to put anyone in this story in the room with me, it would be someone loyal to me who could back up my version of events; Judge is a friend of Kavanaugh's and is a reasonably well-known conservative to boot. Idk that's a very specific detail that wont really sway anything one way or the other unless someone says it's true <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909571290] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>LOL! Let me guess, another "left-leaning centrist"?</quote> Surprise surprise. Immediately resorting to personal attacks again and related to another user at that. Well done! <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, me and my big potty mouth, with two whole swears in three posts. I know, I should have been a pirate, right?</quote> You accused me of being upset but honestly you sound far more upset my dude <quote> a) Literally no one says that b) Since when is "conservative" slander?</quote> So you dont agree that attacking someone's character is poor argument form? I did at least consider you more intelligent than that. <quote>She came out of the woodwork when Kavanaugh's name started showing up in the papers. That's not that uncommon. She'd done her best to put this all behind her, then all of a sudden she sees the man who attacked her vying for one of the most powerful offices in the land? Yeah, if I was in her shoes, I'd come forward too.</quote> Ah yes. The latest fad... the "he's famous now" argument despite the fact that he's been well known and in positions of power for years. But now suddenly that he's in a position of power that more immediately threatens the power of Democrats it's the time. <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>I know how much you dislike reading my longer posts, so I do apologize for taxing your attention span, but since we're into it now...</quote> Nice. Personal attacks again. Keep em coming dude. You're just showing how unhinged and angry you're getting every time. <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>In general, accusations are true far more often than they are fabricated. If I told you "Person A accused Person B of sexually assaulting them while Person B insisted nothing happened" and told you nothing else about the situation or either person, then asked you to bet on whether the allegations were true or not, smart money would be on Person A's version of events by an enormous margin.</quote> Fair. But there have still been plenty of false accusations and it's more suspicious when its someone in a position of power with a more immediate threat to the Democrats power. Response to #2 (had to delete a quote block) Sorry bud but it looks like the alleged therapist notes and polygraph test have not been turned over to anyone so that is speculation. Not to mention, polygraphs are far from reliable anyhow. <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote> 3) In addition, details of Ford's story don't make sense for a fabrication. For instance, she puts Mark Judge in the room with her and Kavanaugh - why would she do that if she made it up? If the story was a fabrication, that would put two people's word against her one. If I was in her shoes and I was going to put anyone in this story in the room with me, it would be someone loyal to me who could back up my version of events; Judge is a friend of Kavanaugh's and is a reasonably well-known conservative to boot. </quote> Idk that's a very specific detail that wont really sway anything one way or the other unless someone says it's true</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/27/18 8:59:08 PM #42:	darkknight109 posted... 4) She voluntarily took a lie detector test (and passed) and has been strident in her calls for an FBI investigation. Again, these are not the actions of someone who has made up a story - people generally want less oversight of their lies, not more, because if this story is a fabrication the FBI could easily turn up holes in the story that would exonerate Kavanaugh. Speculation still at this point. darkknight109 posted... 5) By contrast, Kavanaugh's conduct during this whole thing has not been encouraging. In spite of the fact that he is being - according to his claims - falsely accused, he has, to the best of my knowledge, not spoken in support of an independent investigation even once. If I was being falsely accused, I'd certainly want my name cleared as quickly and thoroughly as possible. Theres plenty of investigating going on as there is. Why would any sane person call for more? If he believes he's clean, that's unnecessary. darkknight109 posted... 6) Mark Judge hasn't been helping his friend's case either. He gave a terse statement that nothing happened and he didn't want to talk about it, then immediately went into hiding to escape the media firestorm that followed. Now, in complete fairness to Judge, having the media hounding you is not a pleasant experience, so I can at least partially understand that reaction, but at the same time a good friend of yours is being accused of some pretty serious stuff, with you being placed as a witness. Certainly if my friend was falsely being accused of something and I was being labelled as a witness, I would immediately and repeatedly declare his innocence. There's an excellent question to be asked here, and few people have bothered doing it - if Mark Judge is telling the truth and nothing really did happen, why doesn't he want to talk about it further? I havent researched this but is he still good friends with him? Most people that are friends at 17 arent still close friends at 50 something. Wanting to be uninvolved is perfectly natural especially if you dont recall anything happening. darkknight109 posted... Sounds downright wholesome - not a whisper of his own participation and certainly no hints of illegal, underage drinking. You arent this much of a square are you? darkknight109 posted... Now, partying hard in college is not a crime, and Kavanaugh easily could have helped his own case here by basically saying "Yes, I used to party in college. Yes, I got drunk from time to time. I was young and careless and yes, I did some things I'm not proud of. I made mistakes, as all young people tend to do at that age. But I've grown since then and I'm not the same foolish young man I was. My experiences, rough and tumble though they may have been, helped shape me into something better. I have learned from them and grown into what I hope is a much wiser man." I mean... you basically just gave a more verbose response of exactly what he said. Number 8: ran out of characters Well let's wait and see what happens and if there is corroboration for people at these parties that confirm this behavior because thus far that hasn't happened ... I also dont put much stock into "rumblings of a third." <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909572011] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>4) She voluntarily took a lie detector test (and passed) and has been strident in her calls for an FBI investigation. Again, these are not the actions of someone who has made up a story - people generally want less oversight of their lies, not more, because if this story is a fabrication the FBI could easily turn up holes in the story that would exonerate Kavanaugh.</quote> Speculation still at this point. <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>5) By contrast, Kavanaugh's conduct during this whole thing has not been encouraging. In spite of the fact that he is being - according to his claims - falsely accused, he has, to the best of my knowledge, not spoken in support of an independent investigation even once. If I was being falsely accused, I'd certainly want my name cleared as quickly and thoroughly as possible.</quote> Theres plenty of investigating going on as there is. Why would any sane person call for more? If he believes he's clean, that's unnecessary. <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>6) Mark Judge hasn't been helping his friend's case either. He gave a terse statement that nothing happened and he didn't want to talk about it, then immediately went into hiding to escape the media firestorm that followed. Now, in complete fairness to Judge, having the media hounding you is not a pleasant experience, so I can at least partially understand that reaction, but at the same time a good friend of yours is being accused of some pretty serious stuff, with you being placed as a witness. Certainly if my friend was falsely being accused of something and I was being labelled as a witness, I would immediately and repeatedly declare his innocence. There's an excellent question to be asked here, and few people have bothered doing it - if Mark Judge is telling the truth and nothing really did happen, why doesn't he want to talk about it further?</quote> I havent researched this but is he still good friends with him? Most people that are friends at 17 arent still close friends at 50 something. Wanting to be uninvolved is perfectly natural especially if you dont recall anything happening. <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Sounds downright wholesome - not a whisper of his own participation and certainly no hints of illegal, underage drinking.</quote> You arent this much of a square are you? <cite>darkknight109 posted...</cite> <quote>Now, partying hard in college is not a crime, and Kavanaugh easily could have helped his own case here by basically saying "Yes, I used to party in college. Yes, I got drunk from time to time. I was young and careless and yes, I did some things I'm not proud of. I made mistakes, as all young people tend to do at that age. But I've grown since then and I'm not the same foolish young man I was. My experiences, rough and tumble though they may have been, helped shape me into something better. I have learned from them and grown into what I hope is a much wiser man." </quote> I mean... you basically just gave a more verbose response of exactly what he said. Number 8: ran out of characters Well let's wait and see what happens and if there is corroboration for people at these parties that confirm this behavior because thus far that hasn't happened ... I also dont put much stock into "rumblings of a third."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 09/27/18 9:14:44 PM #43:	Mead posted... If things do end up getting delayed and there is a blue wave as some predict than honestly it would be hard to call that anything but Karmic justice after what republicans pulled under the Obama administration regarding his Supreme Court nominee. shudder Ugghllk.... Karmic justice? That makes what Kavanaugh is going through "okay"? Was Obama's Supreme Court nominee accused of attending gang rape parties? --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:909572819] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>If things do end up getting delayed and there is a blue wave as some predict than honestly it would be hard to call that anything but Karmic justice after what republicans pulled under the Obama administration regarding his Supreme Court nominee.</quote> shudder Ugghllk.... Karmic justice? That makes what Kavanaugh is going through "okay"? Was Obama's Supreme Court nominee accused of attending gang rape parties?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/27/18 9:18:28 PM #44:	GreenKnight127 posted... Mead posted... If things do end up getting delayed and there is a blue wave as some predict than honestly it would be hard to call that anything but Karmic justice after what republicans pulled under the Obama administration regarding his Supreme Court nominee. shudder Ugghllk.... Karmic justice? That makes what Kavanaugh is going through "okay"? Was Obama's Supreme Court nominee accused of attending gang rape parties? If he did what he is accused of then what he is going through is valid, and if his accusers are lying or mistaken then it is wrong. Obamas nominee was accused of nothing and was a moderate democrat but republicans refused to even hold a vote for no other reason than because they decided it wasnt fair for Obama to select a nominee since it was his last year in office. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:909573026] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>If things do end up getting delayed and there is a blue wave as some predict than honestly it would be hard to call that anything but Karmic justice after what republicans pulled under the Obama administration regarding his Supreme Court nominee.</quote> shudder Ugghllk.... Karmic justice? That makes what Kavanaugh is going through "okay"? Was Obama's Supreme Court nominee accused of attending gang rape parties?</quote> If he did what he is accused of then what he is going through is valid, and if his accusers are lying or mistaken then it is wrong. Obamas nominee was accused of nothing and was a moderate democrat but republicans refused to even hold a vote for no other reason than because they decided it wasnt fair for Obama to select a nominee since it was his last year in office.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfernalFive 09/27/18 9:29:40 PM #45:	This whole thing is a shitshow, and it's pretty pathetic looking on both parties. Frankly, it makes me sick. This country is fucked. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyfabsU4xH1qzy531o1_500.jpg https://imgur.com/ggCrHk8 <cite>InfernalFive posted [p:909573624] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>This whole thing is a shitshow, and it's pretty pathetic looking on both parties. Frankly, it makes me sick. This country is fucked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/27/18 9:34:04 PM #46:	InfernalFive posted... This whole thing is a shitshow, and it's pretty pathetic looking on both parties. Frankly, it makes me sick. This country is fucked. The sad truth is that every political event is a shitshow now because both parties are so fucking petty. They fight all their battles through a political shitshow because it's the best way to cast the opposition in negative light <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909573838] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>InfernalFive posted...</cite> <quote>This whole thing is a shitshow, and it's pretty pathetic looking on both parties. Frankly, it makes me sick. This country is fucked.</quote> The sad truth is that every political event is a shitshow now because both parties are so fucking petty. They fight all their battles through a political shitshow because it's the best way to cast the opposition in negative light</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/27/18 9:43:42 PM #47:	InfernalFive posted... This whole thing is a shitshow, and it's pretty pathetic looking on both parties. Frankly, it makes me sick. Youre completely right. If theres any justice than whichever democrat that leaked her name against her will should have to face some consequences for that That was wrong and done only for political reasons --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:909574308] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>InfernalFive posted...</cite> <quote>This whole thing is a shitshow, and it's pretty pathetic looking on both parties. Frankly, it makes me sick.</quote> Youre completely right. If theres any justice than whichever democrat that leaked her name against her will should have to face some consequences for that That was wrong and done only for political reasons</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 09/27/18 9:49:59 PM #48:	Mead posted... If he did what he is accused of then what he is going through is valid, and if his accusers are lying or mistaken then it is wrong. Wow. So instead of seeing it as wrong now....you will wait for further information? That's like walking down the street and seeing a man getting the shit beaten out of him by 2 guys wearing ski-masks......but you won't see it as assault, because you don't have all the information yet to form such an opinion. The two guys in ski-masks might have been assaulted first and this is just them performing self-defense. Or they aren't ski-masks at all...and they just have facial deformities. And they aren't actually "beating" that man to death....it is simply a cultural custom of expressing love. How dare you judge their traditions!?!?! You a bigot, bruh!?!?! Obamas nominee was accused of nothing and was a moderate democrat but republicans refused to even hold a vote for no other reason than because they decided it wasnt fair for Obama to select a nominee since it was his last year in office. Ohhh, poor wittle Obama. People weren't voting for his pick because it was his last year in office? Damn. He musta lost a lot of sleep at night over that. Meanwhile, Kavanaugh is being accused of being the leading member of a fucking gang rape cult with no evidence to back up any of the claims. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:909574646] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>If he did what he is accused of then what he is going through is valid, and if his accusers are lying or mistaken then it is wrong.</quote> Wow. So instead of seeing it as wrong now....you will wait for further information? That's like walking down the street and seeing a man getting the shit beaten out of him by 2 guys wearing ski-masks......but you won't see it as assault, because you don't have all the information yet to form such an opinion. The two guys in ski-masks might have been assaulted first and this is just them performing self-defense. Or they aren't ski-masks at all...and they just have facial deformities. And they aren't actually "beating" that man to death....it is simply a cultural custom of expressing love. How dare you judge their traditions!?!?! You a bigot, bruh!?!?! <quote>Obamas nominee was accused of nothing and was a moderate democrat but republicans refused to even hold a vote for no other reason than because they decided it wasnt fair for Obama to select a nominee since it was his last year in office.</quote> Ohhh, poor wittle Obama. People weren't voting for his pick because it was his last year in office? Damn. He musta lost a lot of sleep at night over that. Meanwhile, Kavanaugh is being accused of being the leading member of a fucking gang rape cult with no evidence to back up any of the claims.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 09/27/18 9:51:33 PM #49:	yikes <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:909574725] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote>yikes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/27/18 9:54:03 PM #50:	Mead posted... GreenKnight127 posted... Mead posted... If things do end up getting delayed and there is a blue wave as some predict than honestly it would be hard to call that anything but Karmic justice after what republicans pulled under the Obama administration regarding his Supreme Court nominee. shudder Ugghllk.... Karmic justice? That makes what Kavanaugh is going through "okay"? Was Obama's Supreme Court nominee accused of attending gang rape parties? If he did what he is accused of then what he is going through is valid, and if his accusers are lying or mistaken then it is wrong. Obamas nominee was accused of nothing and was a moderate democrat but republicans refused to even hold a vote for no other reason than because they decided it wasnt fair for Obama to select a nominee since it was his last year in office. I like how the left constantly resurrects their favorite buzzword, "whataboutism" and then justifies what is happening with kavanaugh because "whatabout obama!?" <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:909574861] in Is nobody ... [t:77045787]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>If things do end up getting delayed and there is a blue wave as some predict than honestly it would be hard to call that anything but Karmic justice after what republicans pulled under the Obama administration regarding his Supreme Court nominee.</quote> shudder Ugghllk.... Karmic justice? That makes what Kavanaugh is going through "okay"? Was Obama's Supreme Court nominee accused of attending gang rape parties?</quote> If he did what he is accused of then what he is going through is valid, and if his accusers are lying or mistaken then it is wrong. Obamas nominee was accused of nothing and was a moderate democrat but republicans refused to even hold a vote for no other reason than because they decided it wasnt fair for Obama to select a nominee since it was his last year in office.</quote> I like how the left constantly resurrects their favorite buzzword, "whataboutism" and then justifies what is happening with kavanaugh because "whatabout obama!?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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