Poll of the Day > Radical vegans hit with restraining order By Whole Foods in Berkeley, California

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AC_Dragonfire
09/25/18 2:47:32 PM
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Krazy_Kirby
09/25/18 4:52:12 PM
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AC_Dragonfire
09/25/18 5:08:56 PM
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They should be advocating for grass-fed beef. The cows belong out in the field, not in a holocaust type camp.
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Questionmarktarius
09/25/18 5:13:59 PM
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0:11 destruction of property
0:18 ...is that guy naked?
0:21 trespassing
0:27 loitering
0:29 trespassing, again
1:13 get out of the fucking road!
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Mead
09/25/18 5:33:45 PM
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All those idiots are doing is giving the public a negative view of anyone that wants animals to be treated better
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Hop103
09/25/18 6:05:08 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
0:11 destruction of property
0:18 ...is that guy naked?
0:21 trespassing
0:27 loitering
0:29 trespassing, again
1:13 get out of the fucking road!


In conclusion they should be in jail for about a week.
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Questionmarktarius
09/25/18 6:12:27 PM
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Hop103 posted...
In conclusion they should be in jail for about a week.

1:03 Looks like a handful of them probably were.
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waterdeepchu
09/25/18 6:49:17 PM
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Yeah. just like every other group, vegans have an extremist fringe that don't represent the majority views. Its a shame those groups are always obnoxiously loud, regardless of what the actual issue is.

Like those guys who made open carry advocates look like lunatics when they went into the police station holding guns in full body armor to get a reaction to put on yuotube.
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Zeus
09/25/18 7:01:10 PM
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It's Berkey, so....

Mead posted...
All those idiots are doing is giving the public a negative view of anyone that wants animals to be treated better


So.... what you're once again saying is that protestors are only wrong when they're white?
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ParanoidObsessive
09/25/18 8:01:41 PM
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Mead posted...
All those idiots are doing is giving the public a negative view of anyone that wants animals to be treated better

PETA does that on a regular basis.

Which is a shame, because there are better organizations out there that are actually sane and do good things when it comes to humane animal treatment, but PETA shouts the loudest and craziest so that's who people pay attention to most.


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Jen0125
09/25/18 8:10:41 PM
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Zeus posted...
So.... what you're once again saying is that protestors are only wrong when they're white? And this is the guy who makes up shit accusing other people of racism!


How the fuck did you get that out of what he said
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SkynyrdRocker
09/25/18 8:11:14 PM
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Zeus posted...
It's Berkley, so....

Mead posted...
All those idiots are doing is giving the public a negative view of anyone that wants animals to be treated better


So.... what you're once again saying is that protestors are only wrong when they're white? And this is the guy who makes up shit accusing other people of racism!

This is the dumbest conclusion I've ever seen. You truly are delusional.
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Zeus
09/25/18 8:13:28 PM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
Zeus posted...
It's Berkley, so....

Mead posted...
All those idiots are doing is giving the public a negative view of anyone that wants animals to be treated better


So.... what you're once again saying is that protestors are only wrong when they're white? And this is the guy who makes up shit accusing other people of racism!

This is the dumbest conclusion I've ever seen. You truly are delusional.


Gotta look at the trend, my dude. That's what Mead would say. Can you think of one time when he knocked non-white protestors? No? I can't either.
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Monopoman
09/25/18 8:38:05 PM
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Mead posted...
All those idiots are doing is giving the public a negative view of anyone that wants animals to be treated better

Well almost all animal right groups go to extreme measures, PETA's end goal is a future where all animals are left to roam free. That is right they don't even like people having pets like dogs and cats, and they would rather see those animals roam the land. Imagine if we let the millions of cows on the planet go from captivity.

While they go after the "abuse" of animals in situations like this since more people will side with that, these organizations are far more insane then you think.
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Revelation34
09/25/18 8:55:22 PM
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Since when are freshly laid eggs a deep red color?

waterdeepchu posted...
Yeah. just like every other group, vegans have an extremist fringe that don't represent the majority views. Its a shame those groups are always obnoxiously loud, regardless of what the actual issue is


Heh.
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MirMiros
09/25/18 9:31:23 PM
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waterdeepchu posted...
Yeah. just like every other group, vegans have an extremist fringe that don't represent the majority views. Its a shame those groups are always obnoxiously loud, regardless of what the actual issue is.

Like those guys who made open carry advocates look like lunatics when they went into the police station holding guns in full body armor to get a reaction to put on yuotube.


Vegans are basically radical vegetarians, so they are all the extremist fringe.
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Blade_Trinity
09/25/18 9:39:23 PM
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Zeus posted...
It's Berkley, so....

Mead posted...
All those idiots are doing is giving the public a negative view of anyone that wants animals to be treated better


So.... what you're once again saying is that protestors are only wrong when they're white? And this is the guy who makes up shit accusing other people of racism!

Where the fuck did you get skin color from? You're just trying to bait, fucking badly. Grow the fuck up.
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Nade Duck
09/25/18 9:43:07 PM
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Mead
09/25/18 10:13:17 PM
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Zeus posted...
SkynyrdRocker posted...
Zeus posted...
It's Berkley, so....

Mead posted...
All those idiots are doing is giving the public a negative view of anyone that wants animals to be treated better


So.... what you're once again saying is that protestors are only wrong when they're white? And this is the guy who makes up shit accusing other people of racism!

This is the dumbest conclusion I've ever seen. You truly are delusional.


Gotta look at the trend, my dude. That's what Mead would say. Can you think of one time when he knocked non-white protestors? No? I can't either.


Many times? Some(not all) of the BLM people are extremists that are out of their damn minds, and there was that crazy Muslim family that attacked a guy at the park because he had a dog and they decided that dogs are somehow against Islam

Ya see unlike you I base my views on the individual matter at hand rather preconceived biases based on fear and hate
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RoboXgp89
09/25/18 10:15:31 PM
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I hate vegans, it's like being friends with someone that's allergic to everything and most of them can't even support themselves
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SunWuKung420
09/25/18 10:15:54 PM
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This is why being extreme is bad.
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Mead
09/25/18 10:18:38 PM
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Monopoman posted...
Mead posted...
All those idiots are doing is giving the public a negative view of anyone that wants animals to be treated better

Well almost all animal right groups go to extreme measures, PETA's end goal is a future where all animals are left to roam free. That is right they don't even like people having pets like dogs and cats, and they would rather see those animals roam the land. Imagine if we let the millions of cows on the planet go from captivity.

While they go after the "abuse" of animals in situations like this since more people will side with that, these organizations are far more insane then you think.


Which is why I dont like organizations like that. Theyre not trying to change things theyre trying to get more attention so they can get more donations.

If they actually cared about the issue they wouldnt do extreme and obstructive things that everyone hates and reacts to by going in the opposite direction.

They would get so many more people to actually listen if they simply stood outside a store like Whole Foods with some literature pointing out that people are already spending more to shop at Whole Foods, and by taking a little extra time to find out where your animal products are sourced from you can buy items that come from farms where the animals arent treated as poorly.
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Revelation34
09/25/18 10:25:27 PM
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Mead posted...
Which is why I dont like organizations like that. Theyre not trying to change things theyre trying to get more attention so they can get more donations.

If they actually cared about the issue they wouldnt do extreme and obstructive things that everyone hates and reacts to by going in the opposite direction.

They would get so many more people to actually listen if they simply stood outside a store like Whole Foods with some literature pointing out that people are already spending more to shop at Whole Foods, and by taking a little extra time to find out where your animal products are sourced from you can buy items that come from farms where the animals arent treated as poorly.


People just throw shit like that away.
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Mead
09/25/18 10:30:53 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Mead posted...
Which is why I dont like organizations like that. Theyre not trying to change things theyre trying to get more attention so they can get more donations.

If they actually cared about the issue they wouldnt do extreme and obstructive things that everyone hates and reacts to by going in the opposite direction.

They would get so many more people to actually listen if they simply stood outside a store like Whole Foods with some literature pointing out that people are already spending more to shop at Whole Foods, and by taking a little extra time to find out where your animal products are sourced from you can buy items that come from farms where the animals arent treated as poorly.


People just throw shit like that away.


Which is why you talk to them too

If they throw it away then they throw it away. The factory farm industry is massive, change takes time.
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LinkPizza
09/25/18 10:51:22 PM
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I don't care if they're vegan or not, they probably shouldn't go as far as they do. Blocking access in stores can be dangerous. Destroying food is bad. They better pay for those non-fertilized eggs. And anything else they destroy. And how about they let us choose our own diet?

Questionmarktarius posted...
0:18 ...is that guy naked?

He is not... He had some sort of pants(maybe boxers) on...

RoboXgp89 posted...
I hate vegans, it's like being friends with someone that's allergic to everything and most of them can't even support themselves

I don't mind them as long as they don't do certain things. But all in all, a good amount of them are nice... And apparently have access to Ouija boards...
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AC_Dragonfire
09/25/18 10:57:57 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Ouija boards

If they're fucking around with those then they're probably possessed.
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Revelation34
09/25/18 11:30:00 PM
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Mead posted...
Which is why you talk to them too

If they throw it away then they throw it away. The factory farm industry is massive, change takes time.


People still won't don't give a shit. If anything they'd be more annoyed by somebody stopping them to waste their time.
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Mead
09/25/18 11:32:27 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Mead posted...
Which is why you talk to them too

If they throw it away then they throw it away. The factory farm industry is massive, change takes time.


People still won't don't give a shit. If anything they'd be more annoyed by somebody stopping them to waste their time.


Im not sure what you want me to say to you my dude

Im not saying they should stop people from leaving, Im simply saying there are better ways to try to educate or inform people about something you care about that doesnt ruin their day
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wolfy42
09/25/18 11:36:42 PM
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Why didn't the vegans just use their super powers?

I mean, whats the point of being vegan if you don't use them!!!

Also....no pizza.......no steak....what is the point of life?
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LinkPizza
09/25/18 11:48:41 PM
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wolfy42 posted...
Why didn't the vegans just use their super powers?

I mean, whats the point of being vegan if you don't use them!!!

Also....no pizza.......what is the point of life?

Not as big on steak, but I do agree with this statement for pizza. No pizza is a life not worth living...
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ParanoidObsessive
09/26/18 12:08:53 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Mead posted...
Which is why you talk to them too

If they throw it away then they throw it away. The factory farm industry is massive, change takes time.

People still won't don't give a shit. If anything they'd be more annoyed by somebody stopping them to waste their time.

If I don't care about what someone has to say, they sure as shit aren't going to win me over by being destructive, obstructionist assholes. If anything, all they'd really be doing is encouraging me to do the exact opposite of what they want just to spite them, because they're clearly a piece of shit and deserve to be disappointed.

If you disagree with someone's policies or world-view and want to change them, your goal basically NEEDS to be influencing opinions to win those people over, not completely alienating people who might otherwise have been on your side. Because otherwise all you're really doing is just ego-masturbation.

No, trying to convince people who don't care to give you a chance and listen to what you have to say isn't easy. But few things that are worth doing are. And if you actually care about your cause, rather than the kewl rush you get from pretending that you actually matter in some way (see also, 99% of Internet activism, and the mindset of a LOT of "guerilla protestors" of all ideologies), then you should be willing to put in the effort to overcome that apathy, and win people over effectively.


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jramirez23
09/26/18 12:18:47 AM
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If it obstructs business, you can bet that the judge will be against them. I'm not against veganism, but it seems sad to me that so much energy is going to this effort which will probably not convince a lot of people in Berkeley.
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Syntheticon
09/26/18 7:41:12 PM
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Just hearing the words "radical vegan" makes me want to go and buy a steak and pack of cage eggs.
I'm never giving up meat but if they weren't so obnoxious, I'd have actually been open to buying cruelty free products even if they cost more.
Like all extremist groups, they're their own worst enemy.
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Mead
09/26/18 7:42:48 PM
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Syntheticon posted...
Just hearing the words "radical vegan" makes me want to go and buy a steak and pack of cage eggs.
I'm never giving up meat but if they weren't so obnoxious, I'd have actually been open to buying cruelty free products even if they cost more.
Like all extremist groups, they're their own worst enemy.


Does it make sense to be so reactionary though
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Revelation34
09/26/18 7:58:21 PM
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Mead posted...
Does it make sense to be so reactionary though


Yes.
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Mead
09/26/18 8:01:43 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Mead posted...
Does it make sense to be so reactionary though


Yes.


Whatever boats your float
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Doctor Foxx
09/26/18 8:21:22 PM
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Syntheticon posted...
Just hearing the words "radical vegan" makes me want to go and buy a steak and pack of cage eggs.
I'm never giving up meat but if they weren't so obnoxious, I'd have actually been open to buying cruelty free products even if they cost more.
Like all extremist groups, they're their own worst enemy.

This is way more obnoxious and pushy than any veg person has been to me

Cutting off your nose to spite your face there
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Syntheticon
09/26/18 8:22:18 PM
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Mead posted...
Syntheticon posted...
Just hearing the words "radical vegan" makes me want to go and buy a steak and pack of cage eggs.
I'm never giving up meat but if they weren't so obnoxious, I'd have actually been open to buying cruelty free products even if they cost more.
Like all extremist groups, they're their own worst enemy.
Does it make sense to be so reactionary though
Everything they're doing is reactionary, I'm just going a different way with it. Like I said, I'm never going to stop buying these products but if they had taken a more realistic approach then they would have had a shot at changing peoples buying habits at least but when you take extreme actions, you risk polarizing the very people you're trying to reach. Whole foods is never going to say "you know what, you're right, we'll just close the company" so when they take a more realistic approach, I'll listen.
Until then, it's factory farm meat and cage eggs whenever possible.
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Mead
09/26/18 8:30:46 PM
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Syntheticon posted...
Mead posted...
Syntheticon posted...
Just hearing the words "radical vegan" makes me want to go and buy a steak and pack of cage eggs.
I'm never giving up meat but if they weren't so obnoxious, I'd have actually been open to buying cruelty free products even if they cost more.
Like all extremist groups, they're their own worst enemy.
Does it make sense to be so reactionary though
Everything they're doing is reactionary, I'm just going a different way with it. Like I said, I'm never going to stop buying these products but if they had taken a more realistic approach then they would have had a shot at changing peoples buying habits at least but when you take extreme actions, you risk polarizing the very people you're trying to reach. Whole foods is never going to say "you know what, you're right, we'll just close the company" so when they take a more realistic approach, I'll listen.
Until then, it's factory farm meat and cage eggs whenever possible.


Youre choosing to only recognize the most extreme group regarding a viewpoint

By your logic youll never be convinced of anything because someone out there is an asshole about it
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LinkPizza
09/26/18 10:12:34 PM
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I think I understand what Syntheticon is saying, though. Also, why reward them by doing what they want? If we listen to them while they're doing stupid shit like this, they'll keep doing it because they think people are listening only because of the stupid shit they're doing. If they would just talk to us, it could help me to buy food where the animals are treated better if possible...
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dioxxys
09/26/18 10:21:32 PM
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Mead posted...

Youre choosing to only recognize the most extreme group regarding a viewpoint

By your logic youll never be convinced of anything because someone out there is an asshole about it

There it is^

Its the same as letting yourself not enjoy a series or game because as I hear too often "X has the most toxic fandom".

LinkPizza posted...
I think I understand what Syntheticon is saying, though.

I would understand it if he was at one of those protests and he shouted "LOL IM GOING TO BUY THESE EGGS HAHA LOL!"
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dedbus
09/26/18 10:26:13 PM
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So just regular vegans
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Syntheticon
09/27/18 2:05:01 AM
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Mead posted...
Youre choosing to only recognize the most extreme group regarding a viewpoint
By your logic youll never be convinced of anything because someone out there is an asshole about it
I get where you're coming from but this is a group that's been consistently obnoxious, even with the extremists. PETA is another good example of a normally painful group of people but with an even noisier and annoying subgroup.
LinkPizza posted...
If we listen to them while they're doing stupid shit like this, they'll keep doing it because they think people are listening only because of the stupid shit they're doing. If they would just talk to us, it could help me to buy food where the animals are treated better if possible...
110% this.
dioxxys posted...
I would understand it if he was at one of those protests and he shouted "LOL IM GOING TO BUY THESE EGGS HAHA LOL!"
Given the chance, I absolutely would.
dedbus posted...
So just regular vegans
This is funny because it's too close to the truth-I've been stopped by a random vegan stranger to tell me the place I'm ordering from "supports murder" (it was just a regular food truck and tbh I probably would have still eaten it if they admitted to being unnecessarily cruel, it was pretty good) and I've never met one that doesn't bring it up on the hour plus we have friends that have gone vegan (they're a couple, she already was and converted him) that nobody bothers to invite out for dinner anymore because they're just unpleasant to be around whenever the subject of food comes up.
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Revelation34
09/27/18 4:35:17 AM
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Syntheticon posted...
This is funny because it's too close to the truth-I've been stopped by a random vegan stranger to tell me the place I'm ordering from "supports murder" (it was just a regular food truck and tbh I probably would have still eaten it if they admitted to being unnecessarily cruel, it was pretty good) and I've never met one that doesn't bring it up on the hour plus we have friends that have gone vegan (they're a couple, she already was and converted him) that nobody bothers to invite out for dinner anymore because they're just unpleasant to be around whenever the subject of food comes up.


Well that's a problem with many people who use words they don't know the meaning to.
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