Poll of the Day > Do you honestly think Trump has done a good job?

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Magus 10
09/11/18 12:45:43 AM
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If so, why?
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WastelandCowboy
09/11/18 12:51:50 AM
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He's done a good job at dividing the country and bringing the closeted homophobes, racists, and intolerant alt-right out into the open.
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Blighboy
09/11/18 12:55:22 AM
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He triggered libs and cucked Obama

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AC_Dragonfire
09/11/18 12:55:24 AM
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TheWorstPoster
09/11/18 1:02:12 AM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
He's done a good job at dividing the country and bringing the closeted homophobes, racists, and intolerant alt-right out into the open.


Don't credit Obama's accomplishments to Trump.
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BADoglick
09/11/18 1:04:04 AM
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I've disagreed with the majority of what he's done, the exception being the tax cuts that 'only benefitted the wealthy'. I got a 1000 dollar bonus, along with everyone else at my company, and minimum wage across the board was raised to fifteen an hour for all positions if you weren't already there. I was thrilled about the bonus, it really helped.

Now if only he could reduce military spending instead of increasing it, and then pass the savings onto the middle class via more tax cuts, that would be great. But my meager trickle down was nice when it happened. Other than that I don't care for him, but I still take him over Hillary.

I voted for Gary Johnson for the record
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Lil69Leo
09/11/18 1:06:49 AM
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BADoglick posted...
I've disagreed with the majority of what he's done, the exception being the tax cuts that 'only benefitted the wealthy'. I got a 1000 dollar bonus, along with everyone else at my company, and minimum wage across the board was raised to fifteen an hour for all positions if you weren't already there. I was thrilled about the bonus, it really helped.


That will cost you far more in the long run.
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BADoglick
09/11/18 1:08:41 AM
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More specifically I don't like the military spending, the anti immigration, the tariffs, the meddling in private businesses' affairs, the hyper nationalism, the Jeff Sessions pick for attorney general, his family serving as unelected bureaucrats, the Mike Pence selection for VP..... I can go on
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WastelandCowboy
09/11/18 1:21:06 AM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
WastelandCowboy posted...
He's done a good job at dividing the country and bringing the closeted homophobes, racists, and intolerant alt-right out into the open.


Don't credit Obama's accomplishments to Trump.

You're so funny when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

There was no obvious division among the country when Obama was president and if there was, people just kept it to themselves. With Trump, it's balls to the walls with crazy.
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darkknight109
09/11/18 1:22:04 AM
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Good Lord, no. Spiralling deficits in a major economic boom is unbelievably bad fiscal policy; his trade wars have produced absolutely no concessions and he's now having to bail out farmers that have been harmed by his spat with China (no word yet on the various other industries that are being stung by tariffs); he withdrew from the Paris Agreement and gutted environmental protections and other regulations meant to protect the country and its people; he got badly suckered on North Korea and him tearing up the Iran deal, despite the fact that Iran was in full compliance, has made it more likely - not less - that they will start pursuing nuclear arms; his FCC nominees killed net neutrality and has basically killed whatever forms of consumer protection he can get his hands on; he royally cocked up the Puerto Rico hurricane response... And this is without touching all the issues surrounding his xenophobia, hyperpartisanship, nationalism, and general overall stupidity.

About the only positives I can list thus far are the things he hasn't done. He hasn't gotten America engaged in a pointless war (though not for lack of trying - he apparently tried to start separate conflicts with North Korea and Venezuela, as well as wanting to escalate Syria with an assassination attempt on Assad, but his aides managed to talk him down), and he hasn't managed to torch the humming economy Obama gave him (yet - see aforementioned bullshit on trade wars and garbage fiscal policy). That's pretty much it.
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shadowsword87
09/11/18 1:22:16 AM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
TheWorstPoster posted...
WastelandCowboy posted...
He's done a good job at dividing the country and bringing the closeted homophobes, racists, and intolerant alt-right out into the open.


Don't credit Obama's accomplishments to Trump.

You're so funny when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

There was no obvious division among the country when Obama was president and if there was, people just kept it to themselves. With Trump, it's balls to the walls with crazy.


The question is: did Trump create it, or was he a product of?
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TheWorstPoster
09/11/18 1:25:50 AM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
There was no obvious division among the country when Obama was president and if there was, people just kept it to themselves. With Trump, it's balls to the walls with crazy.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_movement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_%28United_States%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant
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darkknight109
09/11/18 1:29:54 AM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
WastelandCowboy posted...
There was no obvious division among the country when Obama was president and if there was, people just kept it to themselves. With Trump, it's balls to the walls with crazy.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_movement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_%28United_States%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant

Antifa has been around for decades and only rose to prominence in the US following the election of Donald Trump; whether you're going by founding date or rise to popularity, neither of those took place under Obama.

Benghazi and Daesh both occurred outside of the country, so calling them "division in America" is more than a little rich.
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Zeus
09/11/18 1:33:20 AM
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Considering he hasn't started any new wars yet, he's done better than many of the previous ones (although, if he really wanted a gold sticker, he would find a way to resolve some of the ongoing conflicts). That said, his foreign policy -- just like his predecessors -- leaves much to be desired. He's tried to do too much at once instead of gradually pushing issues.

The thing I like about his administration is that it hasn't passed as many laws and most of his EOs have just been reversals of previous EOs. And I like the idea that we're going to get getting space marines, which can head off a zerg invasion.

WastelandCowboy posted...
He's done a good job at dividing the country and bringing the closeted homophobes, racists, and intolerant alt-right out into the open.


jQmVFypWInKCc

Among countless other problems, pretty much everything you described actually happened under Obama who made race riots great again (Ferguson, Baltimore, etc). Prior to Obama, the last huge race riot happened under Clinton.

Lil69Leo posted...
BADoglick posted...
I've disagreed with the majority of what he's done, the exception being the tax cuts that 'only benefitted the wealthy'. I got a 1000 dollar bonus, along with everyone else at my company, and minimum wage across the board was raised to fifteen an hour for all positions if you weren't already there. I was thrilled about the bonus, it really helped.


That will cost you far more in the long run.


jQmVFypWInKCc

While some of the benefits are temporary, they'll probably be extended when they're set to expire.

BADoglick posted...
More specifically I don't like the military spending, the anti immigration, the tariffs, the meddling in private businesses' affairs, the hyper nationalism, the Jeff Sessions pick for attorney general, his family serving as unelected bureaucrats, the Mike Pence selection for VP..... I can go on


Enforcing immigration laws isn't being "anti-immigration." As for family serving in advisory roles, this has been true of *many* presidents who had adult children and relatives of high-ranking politicians have either served with or without appointment (which are unelected roles) in various capacities, dating back to the founding of our nation. John Quincy Adams, our sixth president, held *multiple* appointments during GW's and Adams's administrations.

While I acknowledge that nepotism *can* be an issue (although the US has never had the kind of systemic problems that communist nations had with it), the idea that you should disregard individuals from service purely for being related to a politician is just foolishness.
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TheWorstPoster
09/11/18 1:34:21 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
Benghazi and Daesh both occurred outside of the country, so calling them "division in America" is more than a little rich.


Benghazi would have been prevented, if Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had ordered military support from Sicily, since support was 2 hours away. Instead, Obama blamed the whole thing on a dumb video (that got 17 total views for the Arabic version prior to the attack, and trying to make the public event forget about the date that it happened on, and it was spontaneous attacks on numerous US embassies and consulates over the Middle East and North Africa), and promptly arrested the filmmaker.

Withdrawing from Iraq, and the assassination of Muammar Gadaffi (prick that he was), caused a massive void which led to the rise of ISIS (which now has less than 1% of its territory due to heavy artillery and aircraft attacks in the past year, as well as Russian, British, Syrian rebel, and Kurdish support).
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TheWorstPoster
09/11/18 1:39:31 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
Antifa has been around for decades and only rose to prominence in the US following the election of Donald Trump; whether you're going by founding date or rise to popularity, neither of those took place under Obama.


You're forgetting the events from November 9th, 2016 to January 19th, 2017.

Obama was still President, and it caused riots and protests by those who ACTUALLY acted like fascists.
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darkknight109
09/11/18 1:39:46 AM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
darkknight109 posted...
Benghazi and Daesh both occurred outside of the country, so calling them "division in America" is more than a little rich.


Benghazi would have been prevented, if Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had ordered military support from Sicily, since support was 2 hours away. Instead, Obama blamed the whole thing on a dumb video (that got 17 total views for the Arabic version prior to the attack, and trying to make the public event forget about the date that it happened on, and it was spontaneous attacks on numerous US embassies and consulates over the Middle East and North Africa), and promptly arrested the filmmaker.

Withdrawing from Iraq, and the assassination of Muammar Gadaffi (prick that he was), caused a massive void which led to the rise of ISIS (which now has less than 1% of its territory due to heavy artillery and aircraft attacks in the past year, as well as Russian, British, Syrian rebel, and Kurdish support).

Absolutely none of which has anything to do with divisions in America. Do try to keep up with what's actually being talked about.
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TheWorstPoster
09/11/18 1:43:45 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
Absolutely none of which has anything to do with divisions in America. Do try to keep up with what's actually being talked about.


Obama could have prevented both of those, but didn't.

Mitt Romney would have won if he slammed Obama and Hillary HARD on Benghazi, but refused to call him out on that in order to be "civil". But then Obama's campaign started mocking him on cutting public funding from Sesame Street, how he once cut a girl's hair back in kindergarten, how he once put a dog on the roof of a car, and mocking him for claiming that Russia was one of our biggest threats by saying that the 80's geopolitical climate was over (funny how that one ended up 4 years later...)
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zebatov
09/11/18 1:47:22 AM
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Good intentions, poor execution.
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Rasmoh
09/11/18 2:15:27 AM
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Pretty decent so far, though not as much as I had hoped for.
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darkknight109
09/11/18 2:22:44 AM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
Obama could have prevented both of those, but didn't.

Which still has nothing to do with division in America.
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Kyuubi4269
09/11/18 2:27:06 AM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
darkknight109 posted...
Absolutely none of which has anything to do with divisions in America. Do try to keep up with what's actually being talked about.


Obama could have prevented both of those, but didn't.

Mitt Romney would have won if he slammed Obama and Hillary HARD on Benghazi, but refused to call him out on that in order to be "civil". But then Obama's campaign started mocking him on cutting public funding from Sesame Street, how he once cut a girl's hair back in kindergarten, how he once put a dog on the roof of a car, and mocking him for claiming that Russia was one of our biggest threats by saying that the 80's geopolitical climate was over (funny how that one ended up 4 years later...)

Mitt Romney at least looked like a mad bastard lol Beghazi would've went down like "but her emails".
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Magus 10
09/11/18 2:35:42 AM
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Rasmoh posted...
Pretty decent so far, though not as much as I had hoped for.


What were you actually hoping for him to accomplish?
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Kyuubi4269
09/11/18 2:36:59 AM
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He's so far demonstrated that you can put literally anybody in the position and it doesn't matter.

Shows the US votes for a figurehead, not who actually runs the country.
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Cacciato
09/11/18 2:37:29 AM
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Zeus posted...
hat said, his foreign policy -- just like his predecessors -- leaves much to be desired. He's tried to do too much at once

Yeah, that's the problem with his foreign policy.

On the bright side he's appealed to guys like Icoyar. The one thing Nathan will finally have in common with a president is the fact we'll never see a copy of either of their tax returns.
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Rasmoh
09/11/18 2:50:50 AM
#27:


Magus 10 posted...
What were you actually hoping for him to accomplish?


Wall production, more deportations, cuts to welfare, more tax cuts in general.

2 supreme court seats is nice though.
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Magus 10
09/11/18 2:59:51 AM
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Rasmoh posted...
Wall production, more deportations, cuts to welfare, more tax cuts in general.


Why is it exactly that you want those things?

A wall does not solve any problems whatsoever, and cuts to welfare only hurt our economy, and I don't know what good deportations do.

I agree that tax cuts are probably not a horrible idea in general, assuming they're focused on middle and lower class families, but that's not what we got with Trump, and almost all of the tax cuts for lower and middle class families are set to expire within the decade.
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Rasmoh
09/11/18 3:07:36 AM
#29:


Magus 10 posted...
A wall does not solve any problems whatsoever


Reduces illegal immigration and drug trafficking. I guess perhaps I should have included stricter border security?

Magus 10 posted...
cuts to welfare only hurt our economy


In the short term, perhaps, if only due to how people are incentivized to partake in the Welfare State instead of earning a living. In the long run, increased welfare spending has clearly been a disaster and has inflated food, medical and housing prices across the country. The city I live has enormously inflated housing costs courtesy of the welfare system. I'm tired of subsidizing the shit decisions of shit people. At some point we have to stop rewarding people for living like dipshits.

I don't know what good deportations do.


Rids us of bottom feeders and creates more opportunities for legal citizens. Would go a long way in unfucking parts of our economy that have been ravaged by imported slave labor.
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Cacciato
09/11/18 3:09:30 AM
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Rasmoh posted...
Reduces illegal immigration and drug trafficking.

Lmao
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Rasmoh
09/11/18 3:11:12 AM
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Cacciato posted...
I have no argument, so let me imply that your assertion is ridiculous in a poor attempt at dismissal

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RazorX2003
09/11/18 3:11:24 AM
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I think he's been doing excellent for a guy that supposedly isn't qualified for the job at all. Im impressed with how much he's actually getting done, liking those things or not. I'm definitely glad he has been sticking it all the fake news organizations in the mainstream and all the people who spread lies about him being in collusion with Russia, they got that one backwards! I don't love everything he's done but in hindsight some of his more questionable actions sometimes seem to later appear to have been stratetgic, making the best of a complicated situation for example, or whatever the case
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darkknight109
09/11/18 3:21:05 AM
#33:


Rasmoh posted...
Reduces illegal immigration and drug trafficking.

The vast majority of illegal immigrants do not traverse a dangerous land crossing from Mexico; they come legally and overstay their visas.

And if you earnestly think a wall - one of mankind's simplest inventions - is going to strop drug cartels that have used drones, gliders, planes, and even a fucking submarine in recent years to move their product, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Rasmoh posted...
In the long run, increased welfare spending has clearly been a disaster and has inflated food, medical and housing prices across the country.

Strange, then, how countries with a more robust social safety net also have less income inequality, much more affordable health care, and, typically, cheaper goods. Housing prices have virtually nothing to do with welfare spending, as housing prices are dwarfed by other factors.

Rasmoh posted...
I'm tired of subsidizing the shit decisions of shit people. At some point we have to stop rewarding people for living like dipshits.

This would necessitate paying people decent wages for the work they do, which would involve a substantial increase to the minimum wage. The vast majority of welfare recipients are either disabled, actively working, or actively looking for work; the stereotypical "welfare queen" who mooches off the state while giving nothing back is rare to the point of being largely a myth.

Take away welfare while simultaneously axing immigration like you're proposing and you're basically knocking out the entire bottom ~20% of wage earners. You want economic chaos? That sounds like an excellent way to achieve it, nevermind the social uproar it would create.

Rasmoh posted...
Rids us of bottom feeders

That work more, pay more taxes, and commit less crime than native-born citizens? You have a strange definition of the term "bottom feeder".

Rasmoh posted...
and creates more opportunities for legal citizens

Opportunities that legal citizens aren't taking. I could fill a topic with all the people who've sounded off about trying desperately to get American workers into jobs that have historically been filled by foreigners (like farm work) only to discover no one wants the job. Even after jacking up the pay, the positions are going unfilled - the work is simply too dirty, too hard, or too demanding to attract US labour.

We could always pay more, if you don't mind your grocery bill tripling, but that's going to create a bit of a domino effect.

Rasmoh posted...
Would go a long way in unfucking parts of our economy that have been ravaged by imported slave labor.

By moving those jobs overseas where labour is still cheap?
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Magus 10
09/11/18 3:23:39 AM
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Rasmoh posted...
Reduces illegal immigration and drug trafficking.


It literally would not stop either of those things at all.

Rasmoh posted...
In the short term, perhaps, if only due to how people are incentivized to partake in the Welfare State instead of earning a living. In the long run, increased welfare spending has clearly been a disaster and has inflated food, medical and housing prices across the country. The city I live has enormously inflated housing costs courtesy of the welfare system. I'm tired of subsidizing the shit decisions of shit people. At some point we have to stop rewarding people for living like dipshits.


I'm not sure it's people on welfare that have enough money to drive up the price of housing where you live.

Rasmoh posted...
Rids us of bottom feeders and creates more opportunities for legal citizens. Would go a long way in unfucking parts of our economy that have been ravaged by imported slave labor.


Pretty sure a lot of the foreign labor in the country is in places where the demand of labor exceeds the supply of domestic labor in that area. It's disingenuous to think that any foreign workers are bottom feeders.
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Magus 10
09/11/18 3:27:19 AM
#35:


RazorX2003 posted...
I'm definitely glad he has been sticking it all the fake news organizations in the mainstream and all the people who spread lies about him being in collusion with Russia, they got that one backwards!


At some point, don't you have to admit that he's got a lot of strange ties to Russia? How many members of his campaign have been indicted now?
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JixHedgehog
09/11/18 3:49:44 AM
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+ Tax cut
+ Stepping up deportations for illegals
+ Eliminated penalties for not having Obama Care
+ Met with Kim Jong Un (I still dont believe it :) )
+ Going ahead with the election promise of building a border wall
+ Not afraid to speak the truth when it comes to fake news
+ Keeping true to the US Constitution

Unemployment is down, jobs are up

The LGBTQ community were worried about being sent to camps or whatever, that never happened

He continues to remain resilient after months of bogus stories, witch hunts and attacks from the Left

Only downside - never putting Crooked Hillary behind bars
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Muscles
09/11/18 4:13:14 AM
#37:


Rasmoh posted...
Reduces illegal immigration and drug trafficking

The only way to stop drug trafficking is by making it legal, look what happened when we relegalized alcohol, you'll get the same results when you relegalize drugs
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Blorfenburger
09/11/18 4:15:12 AM
#38:


Its kinda my fault but I honestly have no clue about he's done or trying to do
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Yellow
09/11/18 4:15:36 AM
#39:


JixHedgehog posted...
+ Tax cut
+ Stepping up deportations for illegals
+ Eliminated penalties for not having Obama Care
+ Met with Kim Jong Un (I still dont believe it :) )
+ Going ahead with the election promise of building a border wall
+ Not afraid to speak the truth when it comes to fake news
+ Keeping true to the US Constitution

I don't like doing reply lists, but literally everything Trump does is either bad or misinformation.

Tax cuts, for the rich, temporarily for the poor.
Pretended there was a problem that wasn't being fully addressed and went to extreme lengths to solve that problem. Destroyed the Dreamers act, separated families, ICE...
Met with Kim, ok, sure. His cronies still botched it when they went on air staying they would stab him in the back immediately.
What wall? Not even the Republicans want that dumb idea.
Pretty sure every politician ever blows off the other side as "fake". He just marketed that term well. Plays the same game though.
Keeping true to the US constitution like attempting to pardon yourself as supreme ruler of the country.

*Devolve*

The only person I would listen to on this would be my rich friend that for some reason works with me for $11/hr. He says there are actually some fabled good things Trump has done. Idk, his parents' friends work for Raytheon and his family is rich as hell. Trump does good things for rich people. He's a lifelong millionaire/billionaire.

If Trump gets us out of these wars I will consider him better than Obama.
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Magus 10
09/11/18 4:35:33 AM
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JixHedgehog posted...
+ Keeping true to the US Constitution


How's that 1st Amendment doing?
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Kyuubi4269
09/11/18 4:36:44 AM
#41:


Yellow posted...
Tax cuts, for the rich, temporarily for the poor.

It must be temporary because it suits me.

Yellow posted...
Pretended there was a problem that wasn't being fully addressed and went to extreme lengths to solve that problem. Destroyed the Dreamers act, separated families, ICE...

Mhm, pretended. People spoke, he listened, job done.

Yellow posted...
Met with Kim, ok, sure. His cronies still botched it when they went on air staying they would stab him in the back immediately.

I think Kim botched it by not doing as agreed.

Yellow posted...
What wall? Not even the Republicans want that dumb idea.

Republican politicians are shit-eaters so who gives a fuck what they want, but I like the message the wall sends.

Yellow posted...
Pretty sure every politician ever blows off the other side as "fake". He just marketed that term well. Plays the same game though.

So he's a better politician than politicians?

Yellow posted...
Keeping true to the US constitution like attempting to pardon yourself as supreme ruler of the country.

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darkknight109
09/11/18 4:46:25 AM
#42:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
It must be temporary because it suits me.

It's temporary because it is literally temporary - the tax cuts on corporations and the rich are now permanently signed into law and will take another act of Congress to alter; the tax cuts on everyone else are temporary and will automatically lapse after 10 years (I think - could be wrong on the timeframe) unless Congress intervenes.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
I think Kim botched it by not doing as agreed.

Kim was never going to give up nuclear weaponry; he has made it the lynchpin of his reign and it remains his most reliable tool to avoid being deposed, either by a coup or by external influence.

Anyone who failed to recognize this was an idiot, and one bad at spotting patterns too (given that this is the... what, fourth time? fifth? that North Korea has pinky-swore to ditch its nukes in return for aid, then reneged on the bargain). Most foreign policy experts knew this venture was doomed from the get-go - only Trump and his toadies seem surprised that North Korea is doing nothing now that they accomplished their actual aim of getting China to loosen up sanctions.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
Republican politicians are shit-eaters so who gives a fuck what they want, but I like the message the wall sends.

"We like wasting ridiculous amounts of money on ineffective gestures rather than comprehensive solutions, or we would but this boondoggle is so bat-fuck crazy not even the most extreme of politicians is going to support it, so we'll just mumble about it for a bit and hope the president forgets about it"?

Kyuubi4269 posted...
So he's a better politician than politicians?

He's a better liar, I'll give him that much. And when you consider who he's up against, that's actually a really impressive distinction.
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Magus 10
09/11/18 4:48:34 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
It must be temporary because it suits me.


The parts that benefit the majority of people expire within a decade or so.
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Kyuubi4269
09/11/18 5:27:51 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
Kim was never going to give up nuclear weaponry; he has made it the lynchpin of his reign and it remains his most reliable tool to avoid being deposed, either by a coup or by external influence.

Anyone who failed to recognize this was an idiot

The US was never going to give up backstabbing, it's the lynchpin of America's relations with dictators and remain their most valuable tool to depose them.

Anyone who failed to recognise this was an idiot.

darkknight109 posted...
"We like wasting ridiculous amounts of money on ineffective gestures rather than comprehensive solutions, or we would but this boondoggle is so bat-fuck crazy not even the most extreme of politicians is going to support it, so we'll just mumble about it for a bit and hope the president forgets about it"?

Sounds like every presidency.

darkknight109 posted...
He's a better liar, I'll give him that much. And when you consider who he's up against, that's actually a really impressive distinction.

The others aren't qualified beyond this, ergo he is best politician.
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Yellow
09/11/18 5:34:36 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Anyone who failed to recognize this was an idiot.

Evidently Kim wasn't an idiot.

Because he watched TV.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
The others aren't qualified beyond this, ergo he is best politician.

Best liar 2020. He should run on that.
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Kyuubi4269
09/11/18 5:36:16 AM
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Yellow posted...
Evidently Kim wasn't an idiot.

Because he watched TV.

Kim got in the situation in the first place.

Yellow posted...
Best liar 2020. He should run on that.

He can just run on his first year successes exceeding all expectation and making most presidents look like fucking bums.
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darkknight109
09/11/18 6:21:22 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
The US was never going to give up backstabbing, it's the lynchpin of America's relations with dictators and remain their most valuable tool to depose them.

I think the fact that Kim is well aware of this (helped in no small part by the fact that the US had, not a few weeks earlier, just ripped up an almost-identical deal with Iran, that had been bargained and agreed to in good faith by a previous administration) is exactly why he's not the least bit interested in actually giving up his nuclear weapons.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
Sounds like every presidency.

Pairing this with your previous post, I guess you support every presidency then.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
The others aren't qualified beyond this, ergo he is best politician.

The fact that you legitimately seem to believe that there are no suitable qualifications for politicians beyond their capacity to lie explains a great deal about why the US is in the state its in.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
He can just run on his first year successes exceeding all expectation and making most presidents look like fucking bums.

What successes? He did fucking nothing! His one attempt at major policy change couldn't even get through a friendly senate! Beyond that, his border wall has gone nowhere, along with his efforts at brokering a peace deal with North Korea, and his promised reconfiguration of the global trade order in favour of the US has resulted in multiple trade wars with no actual positive results. Trump is notable only for what he has destroyed. He has precisely one piece of major legislation to his name - that being the tax reform - and the rest of his term has been spent careening from one disaster to another.

It boggles my mind to hear people actually acting like Trump has actually done something with his presidency other than spend half of it golfing, nevermind buying into his narcissistic lies that he's done more than anyone ever in the history of the universe.
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Kyuubi4269
09/11/18 6:41:21 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
The fact that you legitimately seem to believe that there are no suitable qualifications for politicians beyond their capacity to lie explains a great deal about why the US is in the state its in.

There are suitable qualifications, but politicians don't have them.

darkknight109 posted...
What successes? He did fucking nothing! His one attempt at major policy change couldn't even get through a friendly senate! Beyond that, his border wall has gone nowhere, along with his efforts at brokering a peace deal with North Korea, and his promised reconfiguration of the global trade order in favour of the US has resulted in multiple trade wars with no actual positive results. Trump is notable only for what he has destroyed. He has precisely one piece of major legislation to his name - that being the tax reform - and the rest of his term has been spent careening from one disaster to another.

It boggles my mind to hear people actually acting like Trump has actually done something with his presidency other than spend half of it golfing, nevermind buying into his narcissistic lies that he's done more than anyone ever in the history of the universe.

k bro
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darkknight109
09/11/18 6:44:58 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
There are suitable qualifications, but politicians don't have them.

It's funny to me that you think this is true.
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GanglyKhan
09/11/18 6:49:12 AM
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I'm not dead and I still have a job, so yeah, I'm content.
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Kyuubi4269
09/11/18 6:51:43 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
There are suitable qualifications, but politicians don't have them.

It's funny to me that you think this is true.

It's funny to me that you think you've seen a competent politician.
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