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Topic	Do you honestly think Trump has done a good job?
darkknight109 09/11/18 3:21:05 AM #33:	Rasmoh posted... Reduces illegal immigration and drug trafficking. The vast majority of illegal immigrants do not traverse a dangerous land crossing from Mexico; they come legally and overstay their visas. And if you earnestly think a wall - one of mankind's simplest inventions - is going to strop drug cartels that have used drones, gliders, planes, and even a fucking submarine in recent years to move their product, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Rasmoh posted... In the long run, increased welfare spending has clearly been a disaster and has inflated food, medical and housing prices across the country. Strange, then, how countries with a more robust social safety net also have less income inequality, much more affordable health care, and, typically, cheaper goods. Housing prices have virtually nothing to do with welfare spending, as housing prices are dwarfed by other factors. Rasmoh posted... I'm tired of subsidizing the shit decisions of shit people. At some point we have to stop rewarding people for living like dipshits. This would necessitate paying people decent wages for the work they do, which would involve a substantial increase to the minimum wage. The vast majority of welfare recipients are either disabled, actively working, or actively looking for work; the stereotypical "welfare queen" who mooches off the state while giving nothing back is rare to the point of being largely a myth. Take away welfare while simultaneously axing immigration like you're proposing and you're basically knocking out the entire bottom ~20% of wage earners. You want economic chaos? That sounds like an excellent way to achieve it, nevermind the social uproar it would create. Rasmoh posted... Rids us of bottom feeders That work more, pay more taxes, and commit less crime than native-born citizens? You have a strange definition of the term "bottom feeder". Rasmoh posted... and creates more opportunities for legal citizens Opportunities that legal citizens aren't taking. I could fill a topic with all the people who've sounded off about trying desperately to get American workers into jobs that have historically been filled by foreigners (like farm work) only to discover no one wants the job. Even after jacking up the pay, the positions are going unfilled - the work is simply too dirty, too hard, or too demanding to attract US labour. We could always pay more, if you don't mind your grocery bill tripling, but that's going to create a bit of a domino effect. Rasmoh posted... Would go a long way in unfucking parts of our economy that have been ravaged by imported slave labor. By moving those jobs overseas where labour is still cheap? --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:908517738] in Do you hon... [t:76989352]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Reduces illegal immigration and drug trafficking. </quote> The vast majority of illegal immigrants do not traverse a dangerous land crossing from Mexico; they come legally and overstay their visas. And if you earnestly think a wall - one of mankind's simplest inventions - is going to strop drug cartels that have used drones, gliders, planes, and even a fucking submarine in recent years to move their product, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>In the long run, increased welfare spending has clearly been a disaster and has inflated food, medical and housing prices across the country.</quote> Strange, then, how countries with a more robust social safety net also have less income inequality, much more affordable health care, and, typically, cheaper goods. Housing prices have virtually nothing to do with welfare spending, as housing prices are dwarfed by other factors. <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>I'm tired of subsidizing the shit decisions of shit people. At some point we have to stop rewarding people for living like dipshits. </quote> This would necessitate paying people decent wages for the work they do, which would involve a substantial increase to the minimum wage. The vast majority of welfare recipients are either disabled, actively working, or actively looking for work; the stereotypical "welfare queen" who mooches off the state while giving nothing back is rare to the point of being largely a myth. Take away welfare while simultaneously axing immigration like you're proposing and you're basically knocking out the entire bottom ~20% of wage earners. You want economic chaos? That sounds like an excellent way to achieve it, nevermind the social uproar it would create. <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Rids us of bottom feeders</quote> That work more, pay more taxes, and commit less crime than native-born citizens? You have a strange definition of the term "bottom feeder". <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>and creates more opportunities for legal citizens </quote> Opportunities that legal citizens aren't taking. I could fill a topic with all the people who've sounded off about trying desperately to get American workers into jobs that have historically been filled by foreigners (like farm work) only to discover no one wants the job. Even after jacking up the pay, the positions are going unfilled - the work is simply too dirty, too hard, or too demanding to attract US labour. We could always pay more, if you don't mind your grocery bill tripling, but that's going to create a bit of a domino effect. <cite>Rasmoh posted...</cite> <quote>Would go a long way in unfucking parts of our economy that have been ravaged by imported slave labor. </quote> By moving those jobs overseas where labour is still cheap? --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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