Board 8 > Guardians of the Galaxy 3 production halted

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CoolCly posted...

Well James Gunn wrote most of the Guardians dialogue in Infinity War sooooo

They are still using Gunn's script for GotG3 right? So it would be similar. Gunn's script with someone else directing.
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dude just re-hire him how hard is this
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MajinZidane posted...

dude just re-hire him how hard is this

i mean disney is taking a hit no matter what they do here

best case scenario: put taika on it, replace drax with thor, combine the franchises.

Best case scenario is they rehire him and tell people whining about old tweets to fuck off.

Maniac64 posted...

CoolCly posted...

Well James Gunn wrote most of the Guardians dialogue in Infinity War sooooo

They are still using Gunn's script for GotG3 right? So it would be similar. Gunn's script with someone else directing.

I believe they said they were throwing out his script and having someone rewrite it. they don't want any Gunn on GotG3.
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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Lopen posted...

social terrorism

Never heard this term before.

Me neither!

I think it accurately describes what this was though and what society is trending towards in general these days.

Hoping Disney loses as much money as possible from fallout of this stunt so maybe these things are done with a bit more thought in the future instead of immediately caving to social media unrest to avoid bad publicity.

Not saying it's always the wrong move to cave or anything. Some outrage a firing is warranted, but it definitely is going a bit too far in the direction of the public being able to control firing decisions right now.
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Funnily enough it was conservatives who dug these tweets up to get him fired.
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I am aware. Doesn't really matter though.
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Are people going to actually not watch GotG3 because of this?
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Yes.
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Oh i'm still going to watch it, I'm just not going to do so in a way that gives Disney any money

You gotta take a stand against this bullshit
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tried googling this and I found around 50 articles all giving their opinion on the tweets and not a single source that actually showed the tweets. I did manage to find them eventually, though not through conventional search methods or any new site at all.

is this the state of reporting right now?
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MariaTaylor posted...

tried googling this and I found around 50 articles all giving their opinion on the tweets and not a single source that actually showed the tweets. I did manage to find them eventually, though not through conventional search methods or any new site at all.

is this the state of reporting right now?

Sadly, yes.
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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Lopen posted...

social terrorism

Never heard this term before.

Get used to it.
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Guys, can you tell how surprised I am Ulti doesnt get it and made himself look like an idiot?

MariaTaylor posted...

tried googling this and I found around 50 articles all giving their opinion on the tweets and not a single source that actually showed the tweets. I did manage to find them eventually, though not through conventional search methods or any new site at all.

is this the state of reporting right now?

???

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/20/17596452/guardians-of-the-galaxy-marvel-james-gunn-fired-pedophile-tweets-mike-cernovich

Literally the first result I got googling it.
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good job
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Literally "James Gunn Tweets"
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So what happens if the replacements make a better film than what Gunn has helmed so far?
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We all explode
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Oh that would be bad.

So we really gotta hope the new guys are not good at their jobs and tank the franchise.
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voltch posted...

So what happens if the replacements make a better film than what Gunn has helmed so far?

You all get to remember that I called it

TheRock1525 posted...

MariaTaylor posted...

tried googling this and I found around 50 articles all giving their opinion on the tweets and not a single source that actually showed the tweets. I did manage to find them eventually, though not through conventional search methods or any new site at all.

is this the state of reporting right now?

???

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/20/17596452/guardians-of-the-galaxy-marvel-james-gunn-fired-pedophile-tweets-mike-cernovich

Literally the first result I got googling it.

Lmfao
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Please tank the MCU so I can save money.

I can't get by just skipping the shitty Ant-Man movies forever.
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Ant Man isn't shitty though????

Granted I haven't seen the sequel yet but I doubt I'll think it's shitty
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TheRock1525 posted...

Funnily enough it was conservatives who dug these tweets up to get him fired.

Specifically, it was done by the minions of pizzagate-pushing rapist Mike Cernovich (who has himself joked about rape many times). The complaints weren't even made in good faith.
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I had problems with both Ant-Man movies but I thought they were good overall

I have a couple of like REALLY BIG problems with Ant-Man and the Wasp but then I LOVED everything else about it so it was a bit of a rollercoaster ride

Is it silly to hope that DC hires on James Gunn for a Green Lantern Corps movie? It'd be perfect. DC might actually beat Marvel for once.

oh wait warner bros is too dumb
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AquaArcane posted...

Is it silly to hope that DC hires on James Gunn for a Green Lantern Corps movie?

Yes because I'm pretty sure Geoff Johns is trying to get his buddy Richard Donner, but not a bad choice.

Gunn should actually play in a different part of the DCU than space though if he came aboard. James Gunn doing Doom Patrol or Shadowpact would be fantastic.
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Or he could do a proper Titans show, sweep the current monstrosity under the rug.
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I'd rather he push a big budget film franchise though. And DC magic is really, really unique.
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Heres an idea

Let HIM do TMNT
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shit yeah tmnt would be good
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Sucks he was fired. It would be cool to see him work on something else like TMNT as others have said or maybe he could make the first good entry in the DC movie universe

MajinZidane posted...

Are people going to actually not watch GotG3 because of this?

No one is going to watch it because of this.

Because the movies not happening.
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swordz9 posted...

Sucks he was fired. It would be cool to see him work on something else like TMNT as others have said or maybe he could make the first good entry in the DC movie universe

wonder woman already came out tho
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Eh Wonder Woman is decent, but not that amazing or anything. It sure feels like it compared to the DC competition, but compared to the Marvel movies its just better than their bottom tier stuff Id say. Definitely not as good as the best Marvel stuff anyways which is sad because I probably like DCs heroes and villains more and they just cant seem to put out amazing movies for their movie universe. Marvel has been able to make great movies for characters I knew nothing about (Guardians and Ant Man) though. Hell even most of the non-MCU Marvel movies Id say were still better than Wonder Woman was (aside from shit like Wolverine Origins and X3 anyways)

TheRock1525 posted...

Leave it to Ulti to not get it.

No one is saying that Gunn's free speech is being violated. Disney has every right to remove him if they deem necessary based on his previous comments. No one is saying "HE'S BEING CENSORED" because you're talking about 8 year old tweets and he doesn't have the "right" to direct GotG (unless that was added to the bill of rights while I wasn't looking).

People think its dumb because Disney is worried about its "image" when this is literally a director who made movies about children getting turned into zombies via slugs and Ellen Page raping Raine Wilson.

So yeah Disney isn't censoring Gunn anymore than Twitter is censoring morons that say racist shit on Twitter and getting banned.

Youre talking about works of fiction. He quite literally went on twitter and said pedophilia and child rape are okay.

Tech companies are private companies. They have every right to ban whoever they want.

Disney is a private company. They have every right to fire whoever they want.

This is not difficult to figure out. You dont get it both ways.
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PrinceKaro posted...

Oh i'm still going to watch it, I'm just not going to do so in a way that gives Disney any money

You gotta take a stand against this bullshit

The same people saying this shit would want any conservative fired and arrested for the same thing. Roy Moore is a great proof for this. Dude is a POS and absolutely deserved his fall from grace. Then Al Franken gropes a girl thats asleep and the same exact people defend him. Kevin Spacey rapes teenage boys and the same people defend him. James Gunn jokes about raping kids and the same people defend him.

You dont get it both ways just because you like a movie or the right letter follows a name. Its all ok or none of it is ok. Personally I think none of it is ok, and if people defending this trash want to think Im an idiot for not defending literal pedos getting fired Ill happily wear that label.

Pretty sure Im on the right side of things for not sticking up for James Gunn, and the people vouching for the dude look REALLY dumb. Imagine you have a kid and some pervert loser jokes about raping your underaged child. Fuck anyone who thinks like that dude.
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Anyways....
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LapisLazuli posted...

You say that, but I'm very heavily reminded of people saying Ant-Man would be fine without Edgar Wright, and I think that movie is the poster child for bland pointless mediocrity.

I guess some would disagree, though.

no that's what marvel is
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

Ant Man isn't shitty though????

Granted I haven't seen the sequel yet but I doubt I'll think it's shitty

banepinions
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UItimaterializer posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

Leave it to Ulti to not get it.

No one is saying that Gunn's free speech is being violated. Disney has every right to remove him if they deem necessary based on his previous comments. No one is saying "HE'S BEING CENSORED" because you're talking about 8 year old tweets and he doesn't have the "right" to direct GotG (unless that was added to the bill of rights while I wasn't looking).

People think its dumb because Disney is worried about its "image" when this is literally a director who made movies about children getting turned into zombies via slugs and Ellen Page raping Raine Wilson.

So yeah Disney isn't censoring Gunn anymore than Twitter is censoring morons that say racist shit on Twitter and getting banned.

Youre talking about works of fiction. He quite literally went on twitter and said pedophilia and child rape are okay.

Tech companies are private companies. They have every right to ban whoever they want.

Disney is a private company. They have every right to fire whoever they want.

This is not difficult to figure out. You dont get it both ways.

He was quite clearly joking and the internet 8 years ago is different to the internet now. Back then people would laugh and joke about things like that and nobody said shit about them so more and more people did it. When I played MMO's back then, the sort of shit that got said in chat or on ventrilo or on forums would get people crucified now. Nothing was off limits and people just laughed about it without anyone getting offended.

This is my main problem with people getting fucked for things they said in the 00's because it was so rampant back then. And I don't for one second think the people I associated with then were racist or sexist or anti-semitic or homophobic, etc. It was just how it was and it was all clearly said in a jokey way.

Like I watched Eddie Murphy Delirious with a group of friends the other night. Everyone laughed at it despite the content clearly not being acceptable to say in 2018.

Anyway, the main reason it sucks especially for Gunn is this. He already apologised for those tweets years ago. The tweets were known about when he was originally hired. It was only people whining about them again that got him fired. It's basically double jeopardy.

The same people saying this s*** would want any conservative fired and arrested for the same thing. Roy Moore is a great proof for this. Dude is a POS and absolutely deserved his fall from grace. Then Al Franken gropes a girl thats asleep and the same exact people defend him. Kevin Spacey rapes teenage boys and the same people defend him. James Gunn jokes about raping kids and the same people defend him.

who the fuck actually defended Kevin Spacey

I feel like that was zero people

And again, it's like you don't understand that you're allowed to have different reactions to different things. It's ridiculous and kind of offensive to equate James Gunn, who made some bad jokes, with Roy Moore or Kevin Spacey who did actual sex crimes. They're not even remotely in the same badness zone.
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usually when twitter conservatives make the liberal hypocrisy argument about James Gunn they're at least comparing him to Roseanne who actually has a somewhat comparable situation but somehow Ulti ended up at Roy Moore and Alex Jones
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

usually when twitter conservatives make the liberal hypocrisy argument about James Gunn they're at least comparing him to Roseanne who actually has a somewhat comparable situation but somehow Ulti ended up at Roy Moore and Alex Jones

wow, it's almost like he's arguing in bad faith, but we all know ulti would never do that
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

you can't like putting murderers in jail if you don't also like putting people in jail for being Red Hot Chili Peppers fans.

I feel personally attacked.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

usually when twitter conservatives make the liberal hypocrisy argument about James Gunn they're at least comparing him to Roseanne who actually has a somewhat comparable situation but somehow Ulti ended up at Roy Moore and Alex Jones

Don't give credence to the Roseanne comparison. That's an equally ridiculous and unreal one.
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XIII_rocks posted...

MoogleKupo141 posted...

usually when twitter conservatives make the liberal hypocrisy argument about James Gunn they're at least comparing him to Roseanne who actually has a somewhat comparable situation but somehow Ulti ended up at Roy Moore and Alex Jones

Don't give credence to the Roseanne comparison. That's an equally ridiculous and unreal one.

No. Roseanne is still a bad comparison, but to say it's equally as bad as the likes of Roy Moore is just wrong.
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yeah at least with Roseanne there's the same premise of being fired from a job because of things you tweeted

it's still obviously dumb but because it ignores the other differences but we're talking like 50% dumb vs 90% dumb for the Roy Moore comparison
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