Poll of the Day > Newly-elected Mexican congresswoman kidnapped in central Hildago state.

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WastelandCowboy 08/15/18 1:49:49 PM #1:	https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45195184 A newly elected Mexican Congresswoman, Norma Azucena Rodrguez Zamora, has been kidnapped at gunpoint on a highway in central Hidalgo state. Two men shot at Ms Rodrguez's car, injuring an assistant and the driver and causing the vehicle to flip over. The gunmen pulled Ms Rodrguez from the car and forced her into their vehicle. The kidnapping comes little more than a month after the mayor of the town of Naupan was seized and killed in the same area. Ms Rodrguez was elected on 1 July to represent eastern Veracruz state in the lower house of Congress for the centre-left Party of the Democratic Revolution (PRD). The 32-year-old was due to take up office on 1 September. The state she will represent is one of the most violent in Mexico. Before running for Congress, Ms Rodrguez served as mayor of the town of Tihuatln in Veracruz. Her kidnapping happened as she was travelling along a highway in neighbouring Hidalgo, the same on which the mayor of Naupan, Genaro Negrete Urbano, had been kidnapped last month. Mr Negrete's body was found earlier this month. He had been shot dead. The motive for his killing is not known but local politicians often become targets for criminal gangs if they are seen to interfere with the gang's business. The campaign for the 2018 general election saw a spike in violence against political candidates. Members of Ms Rodrguez's party have demanded that she be released safe and sound. Unfortunately, this won't end well. She's likely already been killed. Mexican cartels will do anything to stay in control. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:906929436] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45195184 <quote>A newly elected Mexican Congresswoman, Norma Azucena Rodrguez Zamora, has been kidnapped at gunpoint on a highway in central Hidalgo state. Two men shot at Ms Rodrguez's car, injuring an assistant and the driver and causing the vehicle to flip over. The gunmen pulled Ms Rodrguez from the car and forced her into their vehicle. The kidnapping comes little more than a month after the mayor of the town of Naupan was seized and killed in the same area. Ms Rodrguez was elected on 1 July to represent eastern Veracruz state in the lower house of Congress for the centre-left Party of the Democratic Revolution (PRD). The 32-year-old was due to take up office on 1 September. The state she will represent is one of the most violent in Mexico. Before running for Congress, Ms Rodrguez served as mayor of the town of Tihuatln in Veracruz. Her kidnapping happened as she was travelling along a highway in neighbouring Hidalgo, the same on which the mayor of Naupan, Genaro Negrete Urbano, had been kidnapped last month. Mr Negrete's body was found earlier this month. He had been shot dead. The motive for his killing is not known but local politicians often become targets for criminal gangs if they are seen to interfere with the gang's business. The campaign for the 2018 general election saw a spike in violence against political candidates. Members of Ms Rodrguez's party have demanded that she be released safe and sound.</quote> Unfortunately, this won't end well. She's likely already been killed. Mexican cartels will do anything to stay in control.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 08/15/18 1:55:59 PM #2:	Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country. --- I am a senior software engineer. If you see me post here, I am tired of writing TPS reports. <cite>Dikitain posted [p:906929759] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 08/15/18 2:09:15 PM #3:	if they legalized certain soft drugs and we stopped selling them guns it'd be much safer <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:906930557] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>if they legalized certain soft drugs and we stopped selling them guns it'd be much safer</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarefreeDude 08/15/18 2:15:25 PM #4:	WastelandCowboy posted... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45195184 A newly elected Mexican Congresswoman, Norma Azucena Rodrguez Zamora, has been kidnapped at gunpoint on a highway in central Hidalgo state. Two men shot at Ms Rodrguez's car, injuring an assistant and the driver and causing the vehicle to flip over. The gunmen pulled Ms Rodrguez from the car and forced her into their vehicle. The kidnapping comes little more than a month after the mayor of the town of Naupan was seized and killed in the same area. Ms Rodrguez was elected on 1 July to represent eastern Veracruz state in the lower house of Congress for the centre-left Party of the Democratic Revolution (PRD). The 32-year-old was due to take up office on 1 September. The state she will represent is one of the most violent in Mexico. Before running for Congress, Ms Rodrguez served as mayor of the town of Tihuatln in Veracruz. Her kidnapping happened as she was travelling along a highway in neighbouring Hidalgo, the same on which the mayor of Naupan, Genaro Negrete Urbano, had been kidnapped last month. Mr Negrete's body was found earlier this month. He had been shot dead. The motive for his killing is not known but local politicians often become targets for criminal gangs if they are seen to interfere with the gang's business. The campaign for the 2018 general election saw a spike in violence against political candidates. Members of Ms Rodrguez's party have demanded that she be released safe and sound. Unfortunately, this won't end well. She's likely already been killed. Mexican cartels will do anything to stay in control. I doubt she's dead yet. She probably wishes they were though, with what they are probably doing to her :( --- 3DS friend code: 5112-3770-6561 IGN: Chris Rock Safari: Pupitar, Rhydon, dwebble <cite>CarefreeDude posted [p:906930885] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45195184 <quote>A newly elected Mexican Congresswoman, Norma Azucena Rodrguez Zamora, has been kidnapped at gunpoint on a highway in central Hidalgo state. Two men shot at Ms Rodrguez's car, injuring an assistant and the driver and causing the vehicle to flip over. The gunmen pulled Ms Rodrguez from the car and forced her into their vehicle. The kidnapping comes little more than a month after the mayor of the town of Naupan was seized and killed in the same area. Ms Rodrguez was elected on 1 July to represent eastern Veracruz state in the lower house of Congress for the centre-left Party of the Democratic Revolution (PRD). The 32-year-old was due to take up office on 1 September. The state she will represent is one of the most violent in Mexico. Before running for Congress, Ms Rodrguez served as mayor of the town of Tihuatln in Veracruz. Her kidnapping happened as she was travelling along a highway in neighbouring Hidalgo, the same on which the mayor of Naupan, Genaro Negrete Urbano, had been kidnapped last month. Mr Negrete's body was found earlier this month. He had been shot dead. The motive for his killing is not known but local politicians often become targets for criminal gangs if they are seen to interfere with the gang's business. The campaign for the 2018 general election saw a spike in violence against political candidates. Members of Ms Rodrguez's party have demanded that she be released safe and sound.</quote> Unfortunately, this won't end well. She's likely already been killed. Mexican cartels will do anything to stay in control.</quote> I doubt she's dead yet. She probably wishes they were though, with what they are probably doing to her :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/15/18 2:18:30 PM #5:	Sad. Shes probably already dead and the cartels will likely upload her death. Why are we at war with ISIS and not the Cartels again? --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906931053] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>Sad. Shes probably already dead and the cartels will likely upload her death. Why are we at war with ISIS and not the Cartels again?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 08/15/18 2:18:50 PM #6:	RoboXgp89 posted... if they legalized certain soft drugs and we stopped selling them guns it'd be much safer Wouldnt help if we also legalized certain soft drugs too. If people want to take certain drugs, thats their choice. Republicans bitch and moan about the government controlling every bit of their lives but then froth at the mouth at the thought of drugs being legalized? By legalizing them, were taking power away from the government to say that the American public cant use these drugs. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:906931067] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>if they legalized certain soft drugs and we stopped selling them guns it'd be much safer</quote> Wouldnt help if we also legalized certain soft drugs too. If people want to take certain drugs, thats their choice. Republicans bitch and moan about the government controlling every bit of their lives but then froth at the mouth at the thought of drugs being legalized? By legalizing them, were taking power away from the government to say that the American public cant use these drugs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 08/15/18 2:20:02 PM #7:	Mead posted... Sad. Shes probably already dead and the cartels will likely upload her death. Why are we at war with ISIS and not the Cartels again? Because its better to just build a wall to forget about their problems and just cozy up to Saudi Arabia for that sweet sweet oil. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:906931135] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Sad. Shes probably already dead and the cartels will likely upload her death. Why are we at war with ISIS and not the Cartels again?</quote> Because its better to just build a wall to forget about their problems and just cozy up to Saudi Arabia for that sweet sweet oil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 08/15/18 2:59:05 PM #8:	people kill themselves with aspirin, prescription drugs for their heart, mental health drugs taken over long periods of time, do it yourself abortion pills, pills to stop people from menstruating, pills to hook kids on drugs but we deem any useful plant you can think of illegal while the most dangerous ones grow like weed <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:906933375] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>people kill themselves with aspirin, prescription drugs for their heart, mental health drugs taken over long periods of time, do it yourself abortion pills, pills to stop people from menstruating, pills to hook kids on drugs but we deem any useful plant you can think of illegal while the most dangerous ones grow like weed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Viking_Mudcrap 08/15/18 3:02:38 PM #9:	I mean, it sucks but she knew what she was getting into. --- stuff <cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted [p:906933577] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>I mean, it sucks but she knew what she was getting into.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 08/15/18 3:02:40 PM #10:	Dikitain posted... Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country. The whole thing is so bad that it needs US military intervention to get anywhere. Any uprising that isn't an airstrike from a US fighter jet or bomber is going to fail. There's no money to be made there, so don't expect any military intervention. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:906933580] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country.</quote> The whole thing is so bad that it needs US military intervention to get anywhere. Any uprising that isn't an airstrike from a US fighter jet or bomber is going to fail. There's no money to be made there, so don't expect any military intervention.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WastelandCowboy 08/15/18 3:04:53 PM #11:	RoboXgp89 posted... people kill themselves with aspirin, prescription drugs for their heart, mental health drugs taken over long periods of time, do it yourself abortion pills, pills to stop people from menstruating, pills to hook kids on drugs but we deem any useful plant you can think of illegal while the most dangerous ones grow like weed Not sure what youre trying to say here. Compared to other substances like methamphetamine, heroin, and cocaine, marijuana is harmless. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted [p:906933729] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>people kill themselves with aspirin, prescription drugs for their heart, mental health drugs taken over long periods of time, do it yourself abortion pills, pills to stop people from menstruating, pills to hook kids on drugs but we deem any useful plant you can think of illegal while the most dangerous ones grow like weed</quote> Not sure what youre trying to say here. Compared to other substances like methamphetamine, heroin, and cocaine, marijuana is harmless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 08/15/18 3:05:14 PM #12:	#buildthewall --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:906933745] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>#buildthewall</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Viking_Mudcrap 08/15/18 3:05:28 PM #13:	Hop103 posted... Dikitain posted... Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country. The whole thing is so bad that it needs US military intervention to get anywhere. Any uprising that isn't an airstrike from a US fighter jet or bomber is going to fail. There's no money to be made there, so don't expect any military intervention. You say that like it's a bad thing. Why does the US Military need to intervene? It's not our issue. Mexico is not a state nor a territory. The US doesn't need to go and solve every issue other country has. --- stuff <cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted [p:906933758] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country.</quote> The whole thing is so bad that it needs US military intervention to get anywhere. Any uprising that isn't an airstrike from a US fighter jet or bomber is going to fail. There's no money to be made there, so don't expect any military intervention.</quote> You say that like it's a bad thing. Why does the US Military need to intervene? It's not our issue. Mexico is not a state nor a territory. The US doesn't need to go and solve every issue other country has.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmokeMassTree 08/15/18 3:06:27 PM #14:	Viking_Mudcrap posted... Hop103 posted... Dikitain posted... Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country. The whole thing is so bad that it needs US military intervention to get anywhere. Any uprising that isn't an airstrike from a US fighter jet or bomber is going to fail. There's no money to be made there, so don't expect any military intervention. You say that like it's a bad thing. Why does the US Military need to intervene? It's not our issue. Mexico is not a state nor a territory. The US doesn't need to go and solve every issue other country has. If they have oil or won't use our money we do! --- A.K. 2/14/10 T.C.P. Victorious Champion of the 1st Annual POTd Hunger Games and the POTd Battle Royale Season 3 <cite>SmokeMassTree posted [p:906933827] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country.</quote> The whole thing is so bad that it needs US military intervention to get anywhere. Any uprising that isn't an airstrike from a US fighter jet or bomber is going to fail. There's no money to be made there, so don't expect any military intervention.</quote> You say that like it's a bad thing. Why does the US Military need to intervene? It's not our issue. Mexico is not a state nor a territory. The US doesn't need to go and solve every issue other country has.</quote> If they have oil or won't use our money we do! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Viking_Mudcrap 08/15/18 3:09:28 PM #15:	SmokeMassTree posted... Viking_Mudcrap posted... Hop103 posted... Dikitain posted... Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country. The whole thing is so bad that it needs US military intervention to get anywhere. Any uprising that isn't an airstrike from a US fighter jet or bomber is going to fail. There's no money to be made there, so don't expect any military intervention. You say that like it's a bad thing. Why does the US Military need to intervene? It's not our issue. Mexico is not a state nor a territory. The US doesn't need to go and solve every issue other country has. If they have oil or won't use our money we do! shut up hippie --- stuff <cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted [p:906934002] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>SmokeMassTree posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country.</quote> The whole thing is so bad that it needs US military intervention to get anywhere. Any uprising that isn't an airstrike from a US fighter jet or bomber is going to fail. There's no money to be made there, so don't expect any military intervention.</quote> You say that like it's a bad thing. Why does the US Military need to intervene? It's not our issue. Mexico is not a state nor a territory. The US doesn't need to go and solve every issue other country has.</quote> If they have oil or won't use our money we do! </quote> shut up hippie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/15/18 3:11:33 PM #16:	Viking_Mudcrap posted... Hop103 posted... Dikitain posted... Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country. The whole thing is so bad that it needs US military intervention to get anywhere. Any uprising that isn't an airstrike from a US fighter jet or bomber is going to fail. There's no money to be made there, so don't expect any military intervention. You say that like it's a bad thing. Why does the US Military need to intervene? It's not our issue. Mexico is not a state nor a territory. The US doesn't need to go and solve every issue other country has. Where do you think the Cartels are selling their products? --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906934111] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country.</quote> The whole thing is so bad that it needs US military intervention to get anywhere. Any uprising that isn't an airstrike from a US fighter jet or bomber is going to fail. There's no money to be made there, so don't expect any military intervention.</quote> You say that like it's a bad thing. Why does the US Military need to intervene? It's not our issue. Mexico is not a state nor a territory. The US doesn't need to go and solve every issue other country has.</quote> Where do you think the Cartels are selling their products?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Viking_Mudcrap 08/15/18 3:15:45 PM #17:	Mead posted... Viking_Mudcrap posted... Hop103 posted... Dikitain posted... Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country. The whole thing is so bad that it needs US military intervention to get anywhere. Any uprising that isn't an airstrike from a US fighter jet or bomber is going to fail. There's no money to be made there, so don't expect any military intervention. You say that like it's a bad thing. Why does the US Military need to intervene? It's not our issue. Mexico is not a state nor a territory. The US doesn't need to go and solve every issue other country has. Where do you think the Cartels are selling their products? Then our problem is with illegal importation of products. We need to fortify our defenses to stop the infiltration of the product, not go out to a foreign soil and fix the whole country. By that logic, we should go after the origin of every issue. --- stuff <cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted [p:906934353] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country.</quote> The whole thing is so bad that it needs US military intervention to get anywhere. Any uprising that isn't an airstrike from a US fighter jet or bomber is going to fail. There's no money to be made there, so don't expect any military intervention.</quote> You say that like it's a bad thing. Why does the US Military need to intervene? It's not our issue. Mexico is not a state nor a territory. The US doesn't need to go and solve every issue other country has.</quote> Where do you think the Cartels are selling their products?</quote> Then our problem is with illegal importation of products. We need to fortify our defenses to stop the infiltration of the product, not go out to a foreign soil and fix the whole country. By that logic, we should go after the origin of every issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 08/15/18 3:22:44 PM #18:	defenses lol do you have visa? k lifetime pass to america in some states, cops won't arrest you for driving without insurance you could build all the walls you want someone will just fly a drone over eventually <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:906934736] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>defenses lol do you have visa? k lifetime pass to america in some states, cops won't arrest you for driving without insurance you could build all the walls you want someone will just fly a drone over eventually</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Decoy77 08/15/18 3:32:07 PM #19:	Most dangerous place on earth is the US Mexico boarder and in cartel controlled areas. ANYONE that speaks out against the cartels are a target and don't last long. And their electing a socialist leader isn't going to help change that in any way shape or form. Lots more bloodshed to be coming in Mexico. And Obama and Holder's fast and furious didn't help much years ago and probably just made it worse. --- 5-27-15 The day Gfaqs died i7 4770k \| ASUS Maximus VII Hero \| EVGA GTX 1070 8GB \| 16GB RAM \| ADATA SP600 256GB \| 3TB HD \| Asus 23.6'' @ 1920 x 1080, Win10 x64 <cite>Decoy77 posted [p:906935265] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>Most dangerous place on earth is the US Mexico boarder and in cartel controlled areas. ANYONE that speaks out against the cartels are a target and don't last long. And their electing a socialist leader isn't going to help change that in any way shape or form. Lots more bloodshed to be coming in Mexico. And Obama and Holder's fast and furious didn't help much years ago and probably just made it worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/15/18 3:34:09 PM #20:	So why hasn't the world nuked them yet? Think about it: Just bordercrime from Mexico has exceeded around 700x the amount of pre-Vietnam shenanigans and you went to war with them --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:906935387] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>So why hasn't the world nuked them yet? Think about it: Just bordercrime from Mexico has exceeded around 700x the amount of pre-Vietnam shenanigans and you went to war with them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/15/18 3:44:56 PM #21:	Most dangerous place on earth is the US Mexico boarder You cant honestly believe this --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906935978] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><quote>Most dangerous place on earth is the US Mexico boarder </quote> You cant honestly believe this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/15/18 3:49:12 PM #22:	Mead posted... Most dangerous place on earth is the US Mexico boarder You cant honestly believe this Ya, not on earth... the most dangerous place on earth is the core. It's merely the most dangerous place on the surface --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:906936247] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Most dangerous place on earth is the US Mexico boarder </quote> You cant honestly believe this</quote> Ya, not on earth... the most dangerous place on earth is the core. It's merely the most dangerous place on the surface</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/15/18 3:51:29 PM #23:	Lokarin posted... Mead posted... Most dangerous place on earth is the US Mexico boarder You cant honestly believe this Ya, not on earth... the most dangerous place on earth is the core. It's merely the most dangerous place on the surface It so isnt --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906936397] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Most dangerous place on earth is the US Mexico boarder </quote> You cant honestly believe this</quote> Ya, not on earth... the most dangerous place on earth is the core. It's merely the most dangerous place on the surface</quote> It so isnt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarefreeDude 08/15/18 3:51:35 PM #24:	I wonder what would happen if trump got the military to invade mexico and bomb a bunch of suspected cartel sites? --- 3DS friend code: 5112-3770-6561 IGN: Chris Rock Safari: Pupitar, Rhydon, dwebble <cite>CarefreeDude posted [p:906936403] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>I wonder what would happen if trump got the military to invade mexico and bomb a bunch of suspected cartel sites?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jramirez23 08/15/18 3:51:44 PM #25:	"Poor Mexico, so far from God and so close to the United States!" --- I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this who will count the votes, and how. <cite>jramirez23 posted [p:906936411] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>"Poor Mexico, so far from God and so close to the United States!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 08/15/18 3:56:10 PM #26:	WastelandCowboy posted... By legalizing them, were taking power away from the government to say that the American public cant use these drugs. Also, drug enforcement itself is a huge industry. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:906936678] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote> By legalizing them, were taking power away from the government to say that the American public cant use these drugs. </quote> Also, drug enforcement itself is a huge industry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/15/18 3:59:41 PM #27:	CarefreeDude posted... I wonder what would happen if trump got the military to invade mexico and bomb a bunch of suspected cartel sites? He's be called a racist. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:906936860] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>CarefreeDude posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder what would happen if trump got the military to invade mexico and bomb a bunch of suspected cartel sites?</quote> He's be called a racist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 08/15/18 5:20:15 PM #28:	Mead posted... Sad. Shes probably already dead and the cartels will likely upload her death. Why are we at war with ISIS and not the Cartels again? Because ISIS kills more white people. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:906941508] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Sad. Shes probably already dead and the cartels will likely upload her death. Why are we at war with ISIS and not the Cartels again?</quote> Because ISIS kills more white people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/15/18 9:55:03 PM #29:	adjl posted... Because ISIS kills more white people. Isis is closer to the oil. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:906956904] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Because ISIS kills more white people.</quote> Isis is closer to the oil.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/15/18 9:55:52 PM #30:	Revelation34 posted... adjl posted... Because ISIS kills more white people. Isis is closer to the oil. That's no longer a valid point - since Venezuela is up for legitimate grabs right now, the citizens WANT a coup --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:906956943] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Because ISIS kills more white people.</quote> Isis is closer to the oil.</quote> That's no longer a valid point - since Venezuela is up for legitimate grabs right now, the citizens WANT a coup</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/15/18 10:01:22 PM #31:	Lokarin posted... Revelation34 posted... adjl posted... Because ISIS kills more white people. Isis is closer to the oil. That's no longer a valid point - since Venezuela is up for legitimate grabs right now, the citizens WANT food ftfy --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906957219] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Because ISIS kills more white people.</quote> Isis is closer to the oil.</quote> That's no longer a valid point - since Venezuela is up for legitimate grabs right now, the citizens WANT food</quote> ftfy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/15/18 10:04:37 PM #32:	Lokarin posted... That's no longer a valid point - since Venezuela is up for legitimate grabs right now, the citizens WANT a coup Different kind of brown people. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:906957375] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>That's no longer a valid point - since Venezuela is up for legitimate grabs right now, the citizens WANT a coup</quote> Different kind of brown people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 08/15/18 10:29:22 PM #33:	tbh, I kinda suspect that the only way that Mexico will see the cartels put down is if they put aside their existing justice system and just treat it as an all-out war. At this point, you can't expect the system to work because the system is too deeply compromised by criminal activity and any reformers have a giant target on their back. Dikitain posted... Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country. Not really a revolution, but at this point the only real fix might be -- and it's a place people really don't want to go (much like Mexico itself, outside the tourist resorts) -- something like Duterte has been accused of doing in the Philippines, where the government has organized vigilantes to hunt down drug dealers and kingpins. However, the cartels are presumably a lot stronger in Mexico which makes those kinds of highly amoral pragmatic solutions less viable. Otherwise, the best system so far has been for cities and towns to secede from the government and run their own police forces although that's going to eventually become insufficient because sooner or later the cartels are going to force their way in there. Mead posted... Sad. Shes probably already dead and the cartels will likely upload her death. Why are we at war with ISIS and not the Cartels again? Because the Cartels haven't perpetrated acts of terror in the US and because we haven't tried to install a puppet government in Mexico. WastelandCowboy posted... RoboXgp89 posted... if they legalized certain soft drugs and we stopped selling them guns it'd be much safer Wouldnt help if we also legalized certain soft drugs too. If people want to take certain drugs, thats their choice. Republicans bitch and moan about the government controlling every bit of their lives but then froth at the mouth at the thought of drugs being legalized? By legalizing them, were taking power away from the government to say that the American public cant use these drugs. If we did that, the cartels would just shift their criminal activity in other directions. Having the cartels focus more on shit like weed is preferable to investing more of their energy into even worse activities. And even if the US's drug consumption dropped to zero tomorrow, it wouldn't get rid of the cartels. Viking_Mudcrap posted... You say that like it's a bad thing. Why does the US Military need to intervene? It's not our issue. Mexico is not a state nor a territory. The US doesn't need to go and solve every issue other country has. tbh, there is a vested interest for first-world nations to stabilize second and third-world nations. Europe, for instance, should be actively seeking a resolution to Syria --- either one way or the other -- because it would stem the refugee crisis. CarefreeDude posted... I wonder what would happen if trump got the military to invade mexico and bomb a bunch of suspected cartel sites? Sanctions from the international community, for starters. America woudn't even have much of a pretext for invasion because the cartels haven't engaged in a major direct attack and the Mexican government hasn't tried to cover for them. adjl posted... Because ISIS kills more white people. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:906958707] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>tbh, I kinda suspect that the only way that Mexico will see the cartels put down is if they put aside their existing justice system and just treat it as an all-out war. At this point, you can't expect the system to work because the system is too deeply compromised by criminal activity and any reformers have a giant target on their back. <cite>Dikitain posted...</cite> <quote>Whole country is a goat fuck. Only way this is really going to get fixed is through a bloody revolution where the people fight against the cartels. Unfortunately they are too scared and would rather flee the country.</quote> Not really a revolution, but at this point the only real fix might be -- and it's a place people really don't want to go (much like Mexico itself, outside the tourist resorts) -- something like Duterte has been accused of doing in the Philippines, where the government has organized vigilantes to hunt down drug dealers and kingpins. However, the cartels are presumably a lot stronger in Mexico which makes those kinds of highly amoral pragmatic solutions less viable. Otherwise, the best system so far has been for cities and towns to secede from the government and run their own police forces although that's going to eventually become insufficient because sooner or later the cartels are going to force their way in there. <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Sad. Shes probably already dead and the cartels will likely upload her death. Why are we at war with ISIS and not the Cartels again?</quote> Because the Cartels haven't perpetrated acts of terror in the US and because we haven't tried to install a puppet government in Mexico. <cite>WastelandCowboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>if they legalized certain soft drugs and we stopped selling them guns it'd be much safer</quote> Wouldnt help if we also legalized certain soft drugs too. If people want to take certain drugs, thats their choice. Republicans bitch and moan about the government controlling every bit of their lives but then froth at the mouth at the thought of drugs being legalized? By legalizing them, were taking power away from the government to say that the American public cant use these drugs.</quote> If we did that, the cartels would just shift their criminal activity in other directions. Having the cartels focus more on shit like weed is preferable to investing more of their energy into even worse activities. And even if the US's drug consumption dropped to zero tomorrow, it wouldn't get rid of the cartels. <cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted...</cite> <quote>You say that like it's a bad thing. Why does the US Military need to intervene? It's not our issue. Mexico is not a state nor a territory. The US doesn't need to go and solve every issue other country has.</quote> tbh, there is a vested interest for first-world nations to stabilize second and third-world nations. Europe, for instance, should be actively seeking a resolution to Syria --- either one way or the other -- because it would stem the refugee crisis. <cite>CarefreeDude posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder what would happen if trump got the military to invade mexico and bomb a bunch of suspected cartel sites?</quote> Sanctions from the international community, for starters. America woudn't even have much of a pretext for invasion because the cartels haven't engaged in a major direct attack and the Mexican government hasn't tried to cover for them. <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Because ISIS kills more white people.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 08/15/18 10:39:42 PM #34:	RoboXgp89 posted... if they legalized certain soft drugs and we stopped selling them guns it'd be much safer All drugs should be decriminalised. Lol @ ISIS exists. --- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/76856811?page=1#27 <cite>zebatov posted [p:906959290] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>if they legalized certain soft drugs and we stopped selling them guns it'd be much safer</quote> All drugs should be decriminalised. Lol @ ISIS exists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/15/18 10:41:20 PM #35:	zebatov posted... RoboXgp89 posted... if they legalized certain soft drugs and we stopped selling them guns it'd be much safer All drugs should be decriminalised. Even caramel corn?! --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906959381] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>zebatov posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboXgp89 posted...</cite> <quote>if they legalized certain soft drugs and we stopped selling them guns it'd be much safer</quote> All drugs should be decriminalised.</quote> Even caramel corn?!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/15/18 10:41:22 PM #36:	That's bullshit. That makes me angry. --- "Everyone knows the law doesn't matter if it's a little kid breaking it!" ~TheOrangeMisfit on 1 year olds <cite>Yellow posted [p:906959386] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>That's bullshit. That makes me angry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/15/18 10:43:11 PM #37:	How much more power do the Cartels need before you intervene? 10x, 1000x, a million times? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:906959479] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>How much more power do the Cartels need before you intervene? 10x, 1000x, a million times?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/15/18 10:45:16 PM #38:	Lokarin posted... How much more power do the Cartels need before you intervene? 10x, 1000x, a million times? I wouldn't trust the US military to save a kitten from a tree. We'd cut a deal with opposing cartels and make the problem worse. --- "Everyone knows the law doesn't matter if it's a little kid breaking it!" ~TheOrangeMisfit on 1 year olds <cite>Yellow posted [p:906959594] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>How much more power do the Cartels need before you intervene? 10x, 1000x, a million times?</quote> I wouldn't trust the US military to save a kitten from a tree. We'd cut a deal with opposing cartels and make the problem worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/15/18 10:46:13 PM #39:	Lokarin posted... How much more power do the Cartels need before you intervene? 10x, 1000x, a million times? Why would anybody intervene if it doesn't directly effect them? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:906959652] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>How much more power do the Cartels need before you intervene? 10x, 1000x, a million times?</quote> Why would anybody intervene if it doesn't directly effect them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/15/18 10:47:00 PM #40:	Revelation34 posted... Lokarin posted... How much more power do the Cartels need before you intervene? 10x, 1000x, a million times? Why would anybody intervene if it doesn't directly effect them? ... You've heard of America, right? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:906959686] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>How much more power do the Cartels need before you intervene? 10x, 1000x, a million times?</quote> Why would anybody intervene if it doesn't directly effect them?</quote> ... You've heard of America, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/15/18 10:47:59 PM #41:	Yellow posted... Lokarin posted... How much more power do the Cartels need before you intervene? 10x, 1000x, a million times? I wouldn't trust the US military to save a kitten from a tree. We'd cut a deal with opposing cartels and make the problem worse. There are already US politicians dealing with the Cartel. Money trumps all to some. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906959735] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yellow posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>How much more power do the Cartels need before you intervene? 10x, 1000x, a million times?</quote> I wouldn't trust the US military to save a kitten from a tree. We'd cut a deal with opposing cartels and make the problem worse.</quote> There are already US politicians dealing with the Cartel. Money trumps all to some.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/15/18 10:53:58 PM #42:	Lokarin posted... ... You've heard of America, right? How does a Mexican congresswoman getting kidnapped affect America? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:906960029] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote> ... You've heard of America, right?</quote> How does a Mexican congresswoman getting kidnapped affect America?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/15/18 10:56:51 PM #43:	Revelation34 posted... Lokarin posted... ... You've heard of America, right? How does a Mexican congresswoman getting kidnapped affect America? All crime, corruption, and violence stops at nation borders --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906960186] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote> ... You've heard of America, right?</quote> How does a Mexican congresswoman getting kidnapped affect America?</quote> All crime, corruption, and violence stops at nation borders</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/15/18 10:57:24 PM #44:	Revelation34 posted... Lokarin posted... ... You've heard of America, right? How does a Mexican congresswoman getting kidnapped affect America? Very little. That's the point I'm making - is is 10x, 100x, 1000x, or a million kindappings before it becomes an action hostile to the allies of America (Mexico is your ally, right?) --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:906960225] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote> ... You've heard of America, right?</quote> How does a Mexican congresswoman getting kidnapped affect America?</quote> Very little. That's the point I'm making - is is 10x, 100x, 1000x, or a million kindappings before it becomes an action hostile to the allies of America (Mexico is your ally, right?)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/15/18 11:00:01 PM #45:	Lokarin posted... Very little. That's the point I'm making - is is 10x, 100x, 1000x, or a million kindappings before it becomes an action hostile to the allies of America (Mexico is your ally, right?) Alliances only apply to if they were invaded by an army. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:906960354] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Very little. That's the point I'm making - is is 10x, 100x, 1000x, or a million kindappings before it becomes an action hostile to the allies of America (Mexico is your ally, right?)</quote> Alliances only apply to if they were invaded by an army.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 08/15/18 11:41:47 PM #46:	Lokarin posted... How much more power do the Cartels need before you intervene? 10x, 1000x, a million times? Unless attacked, the US doesn't usually intervene (directly). Bill Clinton even impeded the UN from intervening in the Rwandan Genocide (and stayed out of the Bosnian Genocide). Meanwhile GWB stood by while Darfur wiped out its non-Arab population. Despite the fact that the international community is supposed to step in when genocide is occurring (a resolution following the US and Europe letting the Nazis exterminate Jews, Poles, and others), it hasn't often done that. Like others have pointed out, it's technically not our problem-- at least, until the Mexican government asks for a higher level of assistance. As it is, there are some joint task forces but nothing close to the level needed to resolve this kind of a problem. However, even if the US brought the pain to Mexican cartels, all that would happen if we won is they'd move further south. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:906962276] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>How much more power do the Cartels need before you intervene? 10x, 1000x, a million times?</quote> Unless attacked, the US doesn't usually intervene (directly). Bill Clinton even impeded the UN from intervening in the Rwandan Genocide (and stayed out of the Bosnian Genocide). Meanwhile GWB stood by while Darfur wiped out its non-Arab population. Despite the fact that the international community is supposed to step in when genocide is occurring (a resolution following the US and Europe letting the Nazis exterminate Jews, Poles, and others), it hasn't often done that. Like others have pointed out, it's technically not our problem-- at least, until the Mexican government asks for a higher level of assistance. As it is, there are some joint task forces but nothing close to the level needed to resolve this kind of a problem. However, even if the US brought the pain to Mexican cartels, all that would happen if we won is they'd move further south.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 08/16/18 12:01:31 AM #47:	Lokarin posted... Revelation34 posted... Lokarin posted... How much more power do the Cartels need before you intervene? 10x, 1000x, a million times? Why would anybody intervene if it doesn't directly effect them? ... You've heard of America, right? I'm more afraid of stray bullets from a neighbor than getting wacked used to be people said certain things and BLAM life over <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:906963160] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>How much more power do the Cartels need before you intervene? 10x, 1000x, a million times?</quote> Why would anybody intervene if it doesn't directly effect them?</quote> ... You've heard of America, right?</quote> I'm more afraid of stray bullets from a neighbor than getting wacked used to be people said certain things and BLAM life over</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blackhrt 08/16/18 12:12:41 AM #48:	Viking_Mudcrap posted... I mean, it sucks but she knew what she was getting into. ??? --- "I live my life 3 videogames at a time. Nothing else matters. Not the mortgage, not my clan and their BS. For those 3 games or less, I'm free." <cite>blackhrt posted [p:906963649] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, it sucks but she knew what she was getting into.</quote> ???</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 08/16/18 12:59:18 AM #49:	blackhrt posted... Viking_Mudcrap posted... I mean, it sucks but she knew what she was getting into. ??? I think he's referring to the fate of other Mexican politicians. It's pretty well-known that the cartels can and will come after politicians, given how many they've murdered. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:906965514] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote><cite>blackhrt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, it sucks but she knew what she was getting into.</quote> ???</quote> I think he's referring to the fate of other Mexican politicians. It's pretty well-known that the cartels can and will come after politicians, given how many they've murdered.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWorstPoster 08/16/18 1:08:13 AM #50:	Cartel members (and other illegal aliens) mosyly illegally vote Democrat, hence why the DNC doesn't want a wall on the border. Recall that Nancy Pelosi said that MS-13 members had a "spark of divinity" a few months ago. <cite>TheWorstPoster posted [p:906965790] in Newly-elec... [t:76905570]...</cite> <quote>Cartel members (and other illegal aliens) mosyly illegally vote Democrat, hence why the DNC doesn't want a wall on the border. Recall that Nancy Pelosi said that MS-13 members had a "spark of divinity" a few months ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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