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Lokarin 07/31/18 8:26:49 PM #1: |
I mean, fruits and vegetables are literally only carbs
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shadowsword87 07/31/18 8:28:10 PM #2: |
Eat stuff other than pure fruits and vegetables.
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GenericGuy 07/31/18 8:31:34 PM #3: |
lol vegans
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Doctor Foxx 07/31/18 8:40:23 PM #4: |
The Canadian Liver Association advocates for a vegetarian diet so idk what you are trying to say
It's tied much more closely to BMI Vegetarians (which vegans are a type of) are less likely to have it --- Never write off the Doctor! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboXgp89 07/31/18 8:50:11 PM #5: |
I hate vegans they're always so sickly looking and always telling other people what to do. They won't work like 90% of all food jobs because if they see a burger they'll get jealous.
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Lokarin 07/31/18 8:51:26 PM #6: |
Doctor Foxx posted...
It's tied much more closely to BMI That's true, the two main indicators are obesity and high carb diet --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RedPixel 07/31/18 8:52:00 PM #7: |
RoboXgp89 posted...
I hate vegans they're always so sickly looking and always telling other people what to do. They won't work like 90% of all food jobs because if they see a burger they'll get jealous. @Doctor_Foxx, this poor guy... --- Working in a team is great! It always helps to have someone else to blame. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doctor Foxx 07/31/18 8:56:09 PM #8: |
Lokarin posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...It's tied much more closely to BMI Mmm not just carbs. High refined carbs with added oils. That will make you fat in a hurry The healthiest vegan diet is high carb low fat and it is great for health. It's used to reverse fatty liver --- Never write off the Doctor! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doctor Foxx 07/31/18 8:57:03 PM #9: |
RedPixel posted...
RoboXgp89 posted...I hate vegans they're always so sickly looking and always telling other people what to do. They won't work like 90% of all food jobs because if they see a burger they'll get jealous. Right? I wouldn't say jealous, it's more like you can really smell the corpse stench when cooking when you're not used to smelling it every day It's strong --- Never write off the Doctor! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nade Duck 07/31/18 9:13:38 PM #10: |
delicious corpse stench.
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Doctor Foxx 07/31/18 9:18:56 PM #11: |
Nade Duck posted...
delicious corpse stench. Whatever you're good with! Not for me any more thanks --- Never write off the Doctor! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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botsrule 07/31/18 9:28:58 PM #12: |
Vegans may live longer but it wouldn't be worth it IMHO. I respect their life choice as long as they don't preach at me. Big fan of Mister Rogers and he was a vegan, never harassed any omnivores.
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Mead 07/31/18 9:54:34 PM #13: |
Lokarin posted...
I mean, fruits and vegetables are literally only carbs That isnt remotely true. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 07/31/18 10:07:06 PM #14: |
Mead posted...
Lokarin posted...I mean, fruits and vegetables are literally only carbs Fibre is a carb --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doctor Foxx 07/31/18 11:13:46 PM #15: |
Lokarin posted...
Mead posted...Lokarin posted...I mean, fruits and vegetables are literally only carbs And fruits and vegetables also have proteins. some even have fats --- Never write off the Doctor! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 07/31/18 11:20:52 PM #16: |
I once saw someone ask a question about where to get a Ouija board. They thought they would possibly have to get it from either a Witch or a Vegan...
Though, most people were asking about a Luigi board... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GanglyKhan 07/31/18 11:47:59 PM #17: |
I support low meat and low animal product diets. Most people in the western hemisphere consume way too much meat as it is. 3oz is a dietary serving of red meat yet people are ordering 20oz steaks and wonder why they have gut issues.
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SunWuKung420 08/01/18 2:16:03 AM #18: |
You're also ignoring that highly fibrous carbohydrates (aka fiber) are nothing like refined sugars or corn syrup.
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Kyuubi4269 08/01/18 2:20:46 AM #19: |
Doctor Foxx posted...
It's tied much more closely to BMI lol yeah that makes sense, it's not a chemical interacting with the body in a specific way that causes it, it's a vague concept full of flaws that's accurate. A vegetarian diet works because it's so full of roughage that you have difficulty taking on vast volumes of calories. Carbs are the easiest and dirtiest way to get energy. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 08/01/18 2:23:09 AM #20: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
You're also ignoring that highly fibrous carbohydrates (aka fiber) are nothing like refined sugars or corn syrup. Fructose is natural in fruits (strangely), and this is not easily processed by your liver leading to the fatty deposits of NAFLD, fiber is basically the only redeeming trait of vegetarian diets and that's only neutral. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 08/01/18 2:27:08 AM #21: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...You're also ignoring that highly fibrous carbohydrates (aka fiber) are nothing like refined sugars or corn syrup. Fruits aren't fibrous carbohydrates. I'm referring to corn, beans, quinoa, etc. Please educate yourself. --- Bite my shiny, metal ass - Bender (a proper role model, orphans matter) PSN - SunWuKung420 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WarGreymon77 08/01/18 2:27:52 AM #22: |
GenericGuy posted...
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Kyuubi4269 08/01/18 2:34:31 AM #23: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...SunWuKung420 posted...You're also ignoring that highly fibrous carbohydrates (aka fiber) are nothing like refined sugars or corn syrup. Wow, classy goal post moving. That was your first post in a topic talking about vegetarian diets, not specifically fibrous carbohydrates, you bringing up the existence of fibrous carbs doesn't change the subject to being about how much you love fibrous carbs. Vegetarian diets are shit due to the proportion of calories in the diet being heavily skewed toward carbohydrates. Fiber is worth a whole 1 calorie per gram, sugar is worth 4 per gram, vegetarian diets aren't >4/5 fibrous carbs by weight. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doctor Foxx 08/01/18 2:35:32 AM #24: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...SunWuKung420 posted...You're also ignoring that highly fibrous carbohydrates (aka fiber) are nothing like refined sugars or corn syrup. Lots of fruits are great sources of fiber. It impacts how the body handles fructose. Which is why HFCS is so bad but fresh fruit is not so negative for the body Raspberries have 8 grams of fiber per cup. A banana or an apple has 3-4 grams a piece. Eat your fruit --- Never write off the Doctor! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 08/01/18 2:37:33 AM #25: |
Doctor Foxx posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...Kyuubi4269 posted...SunWuKung420 posted...You're also ignoring that highly fibrous carbohydrates (aka fiber) are nothing like refined sugars or corn syrup. Enjoy your balanced legumes and whole grains. You can't live on bananas. --- Bite my shiny, metal ass - Bender (a proper role model, orphans matter) PSN - SunWuKung420 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 08/01/18 2:46:46 AM #26: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Wow, classy goal post moving. I like how you claimed I "moved the goal posts" while still referring to dietary plants. Doctor Foxx posted... Lots of fruits are great sources of fiber. It impacts how the body handles fructose. Which is why HFCS is so bad but fresh fruit is not so negative for the body I'm not saying fruits don't provide dietary fiber. Proper whole grains and legumes do a more balanced job of providing nutrition. --- Bite my shiny, metal ass - Bender (a proper role model, orphans matter) PSN - SunWuKung420 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 08/01/18 3:15:02 AM #27: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
I like how you claimed I "moved the goal posts" while still referring to dietary plants. Ctrl+F "dietary plants" 1 result. Now you're imagining arguments? --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 08/01/18 7:47:02 AM #28: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...I like how you claimed I "moved the goal posts" while still referring to dietary plants. Ok. Got it. You're just saying shit that doesn't actually apply. *thumbs up* --- Bite my shiny, metal ass - Bender (a proper role model, orphans matter) PSN - SunWuKung420 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 08/01/18 7:49:53 AM #29: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...SunWuKung420 posted...I like how you claimed I "moved the goal posts" while still referring to dietary plants. The fuck you smoking? You need to be more clear what you mean. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 08/01/18 8:11:06 AM #30: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...Wow, classy goal post moving. Cause people dont eat both --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doctor Foxx 08/01/18 8:19:17 AM #31: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...SunWuKung420 posted...Kyuubi4269 posted...SunWuKung420 posted...You're also ignoring that highly fibrous carbohydrates (aka fiber) are nothing like refined sugars or corn syrup. You're saying that like I don't already eat more of that and more fiber than at least 97% of Americans You should be eating a variety of food for optimal health. Great backpedaling though! --- Never write off the Doctor! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 08/01/18 8:46:01 AM #32: |
Doctor Foxx posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...Doctor Foxx posted...SunWuKung420 posted...Kyuubi4269 posted...SunWuKung420 posted...You're also ignoring that highly fibrous carbohydrates (aka fiber) are nothing like refined sugars or corn syrup. FREESTYLE! --- Bite my shiny, metal ass - Bender (a proper role model, orphans matter) PSN - SunWuKung420 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmokeMassTree 08/01/18 8:47:45 AM #33: |
They don't
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GanglyKhan 08/01/18 8:58:14 AM #34: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Ctrl+F "dietary plants" 1 result. Okay, you're just being pedantic at this time. "Heehee, he said I said dietary plants, but I didn't! I was just talking about plants you could eat!" SunWuKung420 posted... Enjoy your balanced legumes and whole grains. You can't live on bananas. And you're just completely undercutting the logic out of this debate-turned-arguement. Just because he said "bananas" doesn't mean that's all a person would eat. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 08/01/18 9:11:23 AM #35: |
GanglyKhan posted...
Okay, you're just being pedantic at this time. Kyuubi4269 posted... The fuck you smoking? You need to be more clear what you mean. Okay, I do understand what you both meant now but what you meant was so fucking dumb I couldn't imagine such an outcome. I am not moving goalposts when mentioning the sugar-heavy lifestyle of a normal vegan, as mentioned here: Doctor Foxx posted... The healthiest vegan diet is high carb You can live on nuts and avocados, but vegans in general (the topic at hand) don't. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 08/01/18 10:38:55 AM #36: |
RedPixel posted...
RoboXgp89 posted... ' tbh, I've often wondered if he's real. Doctor Foxx posted... I wouldn't say jealous, it's more like you can really smell the corpse stench when cooking when you're not used to smelling it every day You've got some issues there.... --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doctor Foxx 08/01/18 10:40:22 AM #37: |
Zeus posted...
You've got some issues there.... If I had more issues I'd be down with systemic abuse of animals for convenient food At least it's not that bad! I'll take being sensitive to the smell of death thanks --- Never write off the Doctor! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 08/01/18 10:50:04 AM #38: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...The healthiest vegan diet is high carb High carb=/=exclusively carbs. It's pretty well accepted that a healthy vegetarian or vegan diet needs some beans and nuts and the like in there to get the required protein/fats. Carbs can still make up the bulk of one's calories without completely neglecting other macronutrients. Especially when those carbs are reasonably varied instead of being primarily fructose (sucrose is 50% fructose, HFCS even more so), which messes with the body by bypassing a major insulin-dependent step in carbohydrate metabolism. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 08/01/18 10:56:12 AM #39: |
Doctor Foxx posted...
Zeus posted...You've got some issues there.... lol adjl posted... High carb=/=exclusively carbs. A normal diet is already excessively carb focused (what with GDA being based on cheap ration needs in the fucking war), so high carb is severely biased to the point it may as well be exclusive. adjl posted... It's pretty well accepted that a healthy vegetarian or vegan diet needs some beans and nuts and the like in there to get the required protein/fats. It's pretty well accepted you shouldn't drink alcohol yet most people do anyway. adjl posted... Carbs can still make up the bulk of one's calories without completely neglecting other macronutrients. It does neglect them somewhat though, and carbs are fucking garbage if you're not actively burning them off. adjl posted... Especially when those carbs are reasonably varied instead of being primarily fructose (sucrose is 50% fructose, HFCS even more so), which messes with the body by bypassing a major insulin-dependent step in carbohydrate metabolism. Some carbs are better than others but protein is better than all. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 08/01/18 10:57:46 AM #40: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's pretty well accepted you shouldn't drink alcohol yet most people do anyway. https://www.everydayhealth.com/pictures/ways-beer-good-you/ --- Bite my shiny, metal ass - Bender (a proper role model, orphans matter) PSN - SunWuKung420 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 08/01/18 11:09:54 AM #41: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...It's pretty well accepted you shouldn't drink alcohol yet most people do anyway. I said alcohol, not gross fermented shit. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 08/01/18 11:12:57 AM #42: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...Kyuubi4269 posted...It's pretty well accepted you shouldn't drink alcohol yet most people do anyway. All consumable ethanol is produced via fermentation. --- Bite my shiny, metal ass - Bender (a proper role model, orphans matter) PSN - SunWuKung420 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 08/01/18 11:23:43 AM #43: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...SunWuKung420 posted...Kyuubi4269 posted...It's pretty well accepted you shouldn't drink alcohol yet most people do anyway. If it's ethanol, it's consumable, the only difference is taxation. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shadowsword87 08/01/18 11:33:47 AM #44: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...Kyuubi4269 posted...SunWuKung420 posted...Kyuubi4269 posted...It's pretty well accepted you shouldn't drink alcohol yet most people do anyway. Where does the ethanol come from then? --- ImmortalityV, "I would like to kiss Icoyar to be honest in a non gay way though" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 08/01/18 11:37:29 AM #45: |
shadowsword87 posted...
Where does the ethanol come from then? Did you read what I posted? --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shadowsword87 08/01/18 11:41:21 AM #46: |
No because you started to talk about taxes and it didn't make sense.
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Kyuubi4269 08/01/18 11:48:38 AM #47: |
shadowsword87 posted...
No because you started to talk about taxes and it didn't make sense. Ethanol for consumption is taxed differently to ethanol for fuel. Ethanol (C2H6O) is human consumable. As for what we were talking about, ethanol is a product of fermentation, beer is fermented product. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 08/01/18 12:40:24 PM #48: |
Kyuubi4269 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...Kyuubi4269 posted...It's pretty well accepted you shouldn't drink alcohol yet most people do anyway. If you were talking specifically about ethanol outside of fermented beverages, then your statement that most people drink it is false. The vast majority of people who drink any form of alcohol do so in the form of a fermented beverage. Other solutions of ethanol tend to be laced with something like methanol to make them more toxic and discourage people from drinking them. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doctor Foxx 08/01/18 12:47:02 PM #49: |
I hope you all go to AA soon
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SunWuKung420 08/01/18 1:34:59 PM #50: |
Doctor Foxx posted...
I hope you all go to AA soon I guess having knowledge of basic chemistry and how all the world's beer/spirits/wine are manufactured is proof of alcoholism now. --- Bite my shiny, metal ass - Bender (a proper role model, orphans matter) PSN - SunWuKung420 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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