Board 8 > Who is the iconic Spider-Man villain?

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does it differ depending on the version of spiderman? and who is your favorite?
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For me it goes:

1. Green Goblin
2. Dr. Octopus
3. Venom
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bryans7 posted...

For me it goes:

1. Green Goblin
2. Dr. Octopus
3. Venom

Yep, these are the three.
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I've always considered it to be Doctor Octopus but I think the right answer is probably Green Goblin.

My favorite is Venom though and fairly easily at that. I don't much care for the more iconic Spidey villains. Especially not the job squad of Rhino Vulture and The Shocker.
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what makes GG a definitive villain? is he the most prominent in the comics?
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SeabassDebeste posted...

what makes GG a definitive villain? is he the most prominent in the comics?

He killed Gwen Stacy. It's going to take a lot to top that.
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He's the father of Peter's best friend, and he killed Gwen Stacy. Plus, he started that whole Clone Saga thing, but probably the less said about that, the better.
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Yeah thats probably the right top 3 though Venom seems to flip from Villain to Anti Hero depending on the storyline
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Yeah that's the big thing that makes me think Green Goblin is the right answer over Dr Octopus

Doc Ock is just a dude who's there a lot with a memorable design. I can't actually remember story arcs he's mattered in. That's merely because I haven't read them, I'm sure, but you can just osmosis the Green Goblin arcs without even having directly read them.
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well Doc Ock did successfully kill Peter Parker at one point and take over as Spider-Man for a while

but yeah Venom is the best
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Lopen posted...

I can't actually remember story arcs he's mattered in.

There was a fairly recent story where Doc Ock implanted his mind in Spider-Man's body, effectively killiing him for awhile, and went around for a couple years as both Peter Parker and Spider-Man. Lasted quite awhile, and Ock has a clone Parker body now. I liked it but I know it's a story that not everyone enjoyed.
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Okay I have heard of that one but it wasn't exactly in the context that it was revered as much as ridiculed, which makes a difference to me!
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well some people liked Superior Spider-Man but yeah it was pretty divisive

Doc Ock is also the guy who organized the original Sinister Six, which is a pretty big deal, too.
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Yeah I guess the Sinister Six is at least somewhat a claim to fame from a time not super recent
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Venom is the first one to come to mind when I think of 'Spiderman Villain"
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You and me could rule this city, Spiderman! Or we could just fight to the death!
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Gobby.

Doc and Venom are close though.
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bryans7 posted...

For me it goes:

1. Green Goblin
2. Dr. Octopus
3. Venom

Yep
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Also I guess I shouldn't say Venom is my favorite by far

I like Mysterio and Hobgoblin (all 80 of them) a good deal. Carnage was fine too, though he's not much better than Green Goblin.

But among the more infamous ones Venom is definitely the fave by a large margin.
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It's always been Doc Ock for me. Back in 2002 I was very surprised that he was not the villain in the first film.
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Yeah, I like Hobgoblin a lot, too.
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bryans7 posted...

For me it goes:

1. Green Goblin
2. Dr. Octopus
3. Venom

sounds about right, yeah.

my favorite is probably mysterio.
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Goblin
Venom
Doc Oc

a lot of Marvel franchises don't have a singular "Big Bad" tbh. DC does with Luthor and Joker being the primary nemeses of Superman and Batman. But... does each of the Avengers have a single "main" foe? And why did they unload Thanos for Infinity War instead of letting the Guardians beat the shit out of him in Vol. 3?
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KujikawaRising posted...

a lot of Marvel franchises don't have a singular "Big Bad" tbh... does each of the Avengers have a single "main" foe?

The closest thing in Marvel is probably Doctor Doom to the Fantastic Four?
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KujikawaRising posted...

And why did they unload Thanos for Infinity War instead of letting the Guardians beat the shit out of him in Vol. 3?

well, in the infinity gauntlet comics the story is based on, all the big marvel heroes that exist (the ones that are left after thanos kills half of the universe's population, that is) fight thanos. that's basically what they're doing in the movies too, even though they call them "avengers" movies. wouldn't make much sense if it were just the guardians fighting him, especially because thanos is supposed to be the most powerful character ever when he has all of the infinity stones.
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Magneto
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May wanna spoiler tag that the movie ain't that old yet
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Underleveled posted...

The closest thing in Marvel is probably Doctor Doom to the Fantastic Four?

magneto for the x-men (as han said).

red skull for captain america.

kingpin for daredevil.

there's probably a lot more, these are just the ones that instantly came to mind.
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Wow not naming Shocker.
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Loki for Thor
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It looks like everyone agrees on the top 3.

Venom is definitely the one I most associated with being SM's 'rival,' thanks to the 90s cartoon or something. Something about the "anti-Spider-Man" factor.

Doc Ock is the one I remember watching Spidey struggling against, over and over. Dude was so powerful.

Definitely wouldn't have expected GG to be the consensus #1 before making this topic (didn't know that he was responsible for Gwen Stacy, for one thing). I thought his being the villain in the 2002 movie was similar to picking Scarecrow for Batman Begins.
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X-Men have Mystique as a close runner-up but yeah, Magneto easily.

Doctor Doom is probably the "one" for Fantastic Four.

I need to read more comics...
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Underleveled posted...

The closest thing in Marvel is probably Doctor Doom to the Fantastic Four?

magneto for the x-men (as han said).

red skull for captain america.

kingpin for daredevil.

there's probably a lot more, these are just the ones that instantly came to mind.

Loki for Thor. Dormammu for Dr. Strange.

It's probably about the same number as DC franchises have singular Big Bads.
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It's Big Wheel.
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KujikawaRising posted...

X-Men have Mystique as a close runner-up but yeah, Magneto easily.

Doctor Doom is probably the "one" for Fantastic Four.

I need to read more comics...

Mystique isn't even remotely close to being runner-up given that she is often not a villain and rarely a major threat. Sentinels as a unit would be higher, Apocalypse would be higher.
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i'd say x-men is probably magneto > apocalypse > juggernaut > sentinels (if that counts).
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Juggernaut's a tough one because he doesn't have as much built-up history with the X-Men so much as specifically with Xavier. He definitely could fit in the top handful.
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It's been forever since I've seen the movie. What was Doc Ock's motivation? All I can remember thinking is "he discovered fusion power he could be a trillionaire"
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Venom is usually the first to come to mind for me, but I know it's Green Goblin.

Favorite is Carnage though, and I'm also really fond of Chameleon. Superior Foes made me really love Boomerang too.
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I mostly watched the 90s cartoon, where Kingpin/Fisk showed up in like...80% of episodes, (even if he didn't end up directly fighting spiderman, he'd send the person who did) so he felt like the main rival.

Apparently he's not remotely important to spiderman outside of the 90s cartoon though.

(Personal favourite was Doc Oc, but I never expect the "iconic rival" to be the same as my personal favourite villain, so that's a pretty good case against Doc Oc).
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Even though green goblin is the main villain of Spider-Man, I kinda have a soft spot for venom. Especially the 90s cartoon, the design alone was amazing. I'm glad venom is getting his own film but I wish he would not be an anti hero. "We are poison to you Spider-Man"
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metroid composite posted...

Apparently he's not remotely important to spiderman outside of the 90s cartoon though.

eh, i wouldn't say "not remotely important." he was the villain in amazing spider-man #50, for instance, which was one of the most famous spider-man stories (and a huge inspiration for the spider-man 2 movie). he's not a top 3 spider-man villain, though.
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metroid composite posted...

I mostly watched the 90s cartoon, where Kingpin/Fisk showed up in like...80% of episodes, (even if he didn't end up directly fighting spiderman, he'd send the person who did) so he felt like the main rival.

Apparently he's not remotely important to spiderman outside of the 90s cartoon though.

(Personal favourite was Doc Oc, but I never expect the "iconic rival" to be the same as my personal favourite villain, so that's a pretty good case against Doc Oc).

I kinda felt like Doc Oc showed up in every episode! Maybe he was just the hardest enemy to overcome?
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Kingpin is more closely associated with Daredevil than Spidey, but he's definitely one of the bigger villains for him all the same (in more ways than one LOLOLOLO)
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As for Spiderman...

1. Batroc the Leaper
2. Doc Ock
3. Bad Press
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NFUN posted...

It's been forever since I've seen the movie. What was Doc Ock's motivation? All I can remember thinking is "he discovered fusion power he could be a trillionaire"

In the movie? He went crazy after they pulled his funding after the first experiment went awry. It was basically his pride as a scientist that motivated him to continue with his plot because he thought he would definitely succeed if given enough time and money.
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and his wifey died
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Really though, Spiderman's biggest enemy is totally J. Jonah Jameson.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Really though, Spiderman's biggest enemy is totally J. Jonah Jameson.

oh hey an excuse to post this video

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Personal favorite Spider-Man villain is the Vulture, classic version.

It takes balls to be an elderly man with the most basic of abilities (flight) and deciding to embark on a life of crime going up against someone a third your age and ten times as powerful as you.
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