Poll of the Day > Trumponomics: Let's make Ameruca expensive again..

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yourDaddie
06/28/18 2:49:21 PM
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Do some of you really support protectionism? ... Do you really want to go back to the time when the middle class was only able to afford 1 tv, 1 car. Etc per household? Do you want. $10000 game consoles and $100 games... and all for a few jebs that no more than 2 per cent of americans would benefit? While at the same time making americans wo work on somethig releated to imports lose their jobs, make foreiners who make good money for their country lose their jobs....making american companies lose to foreing companies becuase they would place tarifs to Amerucan goods while they dint place tarifs on each other?.....

Sure we would win a trade war with China... But that is like 'winning' a fight against a weaker guy that while you manage to win by leaving him KO him to the hospital he manages to break your amrs and legs before he goes down
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Lokarin
06/28/18 2:51:00 PM
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If a tariff brings in $X Billion and an industry produces less than that - the tariff is the better option.
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yourDaddie
06/28/18 2:56:23 PM
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Lokarin posted...
If a tariff brings in $X Billion and an industry produces less than that - the tariff is the better option.

Highly doubt it people always go either for cheapest or best quality...the only peoe who would benefit is people who work in manufactoring eveeyone else is screwed
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Kyuubi4269
06/28/18 2:58:02 PM
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yourDaddie posted...
Do you really want to go back to the time when the middle class was only able to afford 1 tv, 1 car. Etc per household?

Considering how they also bought their house, yh pls.
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yourDaddie
06/28/18 2:59:39 PM
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yourDaddie posted...
Lokarin posted...
If a tariff brings in $X Billion and an industry produces less than that - the tariff is the better option.

Highly doubt it people always go either for cheapest or best quality...the only poeple who would benefit is people who work in manufactoring eveeyone else is screwed

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Lokarin
06/28/18 3:01:17 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
yourDaddie posted...
Do you really want to go back to the time when the middle class was only able to afford 1 tv, 1 car. Etc per household?

Considering how they also bought their house, yh pls.


Don't houses now cost approximately 10 cars? Has that ratio changed much in history?

A car:house price ratio could be interesting as they have non-overlapping economic burdens, both are modern essentials, and both would be equally affected by inflation.
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yourDaddie
06/28/18 3:01:27 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
yourDaddie posted...
Do you really want to go back to the time when the middle class was only able to afford 1 tv, 1 car. Etc per household?

Considering how they also bought their house, yh pls.

Even working as a college graduate houses are expensive...houses will remain the same price while at the same time families will only be able ti aford a car and a tv etx
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Kyuubi4269
06/28/18 3:03:12 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
yourDaddie posted...
Do you really want to go back to the time when the middle class was only able to afford 1 tv, 1 car. Etc per household?

Considering how they also bought their house, yh pls.


Don't houses now cost approximately 10 cars? Has that ratio changed much in history?

A car:house price ratio could be interesting as they have non-overlapping economic burdens, both are modern essentials, and both would be equally affected by inflation.

Are you implying houses are affordable, but people just buy too many TVs?
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Lokarin
06/28/18 3:04:23 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Lokarin posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
yourDaddie posted...
Do you really want to go back to the time when the middle class was only able to afford 1 tv, 1 car. Etc per household?

Considering how they also bought their house, yh pls.


Don't houses now cost approximately 10 cars? Has that ratio changed much in history?

A car:house price ratio could be interesting as they have non-overlapping economic burdens, both are modern essentials, and both would be equally affected by inflation.

Are you implying houses are affordable, but people just buy too many TVs?


No, I'm not implying - I'm asking. Was the car to house cost ratio the same in the early 60s when America was still riding the motor storm compared to modern housing bubble era costs.
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yourDaddie
06/28/18 3:08:20 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
yourDaddie posted...
Do you really want to go back to the time when the middle class was only able to afford 1 tv, 1 car. Etc per household?

Considering how they also bought their house, yh pls.


Don't houses now cost approximately 10 cars? Has that ratio changed much in history?

A car:house price ratio could be interesting as they have non-overlapping economic burdens, both are modern essentials, and both would be equally affected by inflation.

Yes. Houses, education and healthcare has become much more exoensivew even when taking inflation into account...while food remaina similarely priced and some stuff like electronics are even cheaper.
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Jen0125
06/28/18 5:39:24 PM
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I can't even afford a house.
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RedPixel
06/28/18 5:45:56 PM
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Thank the central banking systems and the federal reserve. Not Trump. He has very little to do with it other than being the puppet you see on stage, along with every other president.
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Lil69Leo
06/28/18 5:46:15 PM
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Lol Tariffs are working great one of the biggest nail manufactures are going bust because of it. Only a couple thousand jobs lost in that one company alone!

Good work Trump.
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McSame_as_Bush
06/28/18 6:03:50 PM
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yourDaddie posted...
Do some of you really support protectionism? ... Do you really want to go back to the time when the middle class was only able to afford 1 tv, 1 car. Etc per household? Do you want. $10000 game consoles and $100 games... and all for a few jebs that no more than 2 per cent of americans would benefit? While at the same time making americans wo work on somethig releated to imports lose their jobs, make foreiners who make good money for their country lose their jobs....making american companies lose to foreing companies becuase they would place tarifs to Amerucan goods while they dint place tarifs on each other?.....

Sure we would win a trade war with China... But that is like 'winning' a fight against a weaker guy that while you manage to win by leaving him KO him to the hospital he manages to break your amrs and legs before he goes down


Okay I've got a lot to say about this. Not a Trumpster.

People need to stop pretending Trump has some grand plan. He's a man who managed to bankrupt a casino. He has no idea what he is doing.

A tariff war is insanely stupid. Bush implemented tariffs on steel and had to pull it back when it immediately negatively impacted the economy. Trump is doing tariffs 10x what Bush did. Harley already announced they are moving jobs oversees as a direct response to the new tariffs, and they will be the first of many companies. Prices are going to go up and people will lose jobs.

The economy is great courtesy of Obama, but Trump seems determined to fuck it up. It's mind-boggling.

Canada/Europe/China are matching our tariffs dollar for dollar, and if they choose to, they have unique options they could implement that would really hit us hard (which I could go into if anyone cares).

Tl;dr: Trump is going to fuck up a strong economy because he is an idiot.
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McSame_as_Bush
06/28/18 6:06:34 PM
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I can't even afford a house.


Bro I can barely afford a two-bedroom apartment. That's the price I pay for living ten minutes from downtown in a major city I suppose, but it is still lame. Prices are going up too.
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McSame_as_Bush
06/28/18 6:07:12 PM
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RedPixel posted...
Thank the central banking systems and the federal reserve. Not Trump. He has very little to do with it other than being the puppet you see on stage, along with every other president.


It's the lizard people isn't it
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RedPixel
06/28/18 6:46:30 PM
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McSame_as_Bush posted...
RedPixel posted...
Thank the central banking systems and the federal reserve. Not Trump. He has very little to do with it other than being the puppet you see on stage, along with every other president.


It's the lizard people isn't it

I don't buy into those theories.
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McSame_as_Bush
06/28/18 6:54:49 PM
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RedPixel posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
RedPixel posted...
Thank the central banking systems and the federal reserve. Not Trump. He has very little to do with it other than being the puppet you see on stage, along with every other president.


It's the lizard people isn't it

I don't buy into those theories.


The Jews?
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Mead
06/28/18 7:09:19 PM
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You mean back when a single mother could get a job at Sears and support an entire home with the money?

Cause nowadays most dual income families cant afford to pay their bills.
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Mead
06/28/18 7:09:44 PM
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RedPixel posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
RedPixel posted...
Thank the central banking systems and the federal reserve. Not Trump. He has very little to do with it other than being the puppet you see on stage, along with every other president.


It's the lizard people isn't it

I don't buy into those theories.


Oh yes you do
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RedPixel
06/28/18 7:25:25 PM
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Mead posted...
RedPixel posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
RedPixel posted...
Thank the central banking systems and the federal reserve. Not Trump. He has very little to do with it other than being the puppet you see on stage, along with every other president.


It's the lizard people isn't it

I don't buy into those theories.


Oh yes you do

Because I said 9/11 was an inside job, right? Lol Mead.
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ZackMorris
06/28/18 7:34:44 PM
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McSame_as_Bush posted...
yourDaddie posted...
Do some of you really support protectionism? ... Do you really want to go back to the time when the middle class was only able to afford 1 tv, 1 car. Etc per household? Do you want. $10000 game consoles and $100 games... and all for a few jebs that no more than 2 per cent of americans would benefit? While at the same time making americans wo work on somethig releated to imports lose their jobs, make foreiners who make good money for their country lose their jobs....making american companies lose to foreing companies becuase they would place tarifs to Amerucan goods while they dint place tarifs on each other?.....

Sure we would win a trade war with China... But that is like 'winning' a fight against a weaker guy that while you manage to win by leaving him KO him to the hospital he manages to break your amrs and legs before he goes down


Okay I've got a lot to say about this. Not a Trumpster.

People need to stop pretending Trump has some grand plan. He's a man who managed to bankrupt a casino. He has no idea what he is doing.

A tariff war is insanely stupid. Bush implemented tariffs on steel and had to pull it back when it immediately negatively impacted the economy. Trump is doing tariffs 10x what Bush did. Harley already announced they are moving jobs oversees as a direct response to the new tariffs, and they will be the first of many companies. Prices are going to go up and people will lose jobs.

The economy is great courtesy of Obama, but Trump seems determined to fuck it up. It's mind-boggling.

Canada/Europe/China are matching our tariffs dollar for dollar, and if they choose to, they have unique options they could implement that would really hit us hard (which I could go into if anyone cares).

Tl;dr: Trump is going to fuck up a strong economy because he is an idiot.

This so much.
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captpackrat
06/28/18 8:17:21 PM
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McSame_as_Bush posted...

Okay I've got a lot to say about this. Not a Trumpster.

People need to stop pretending Trump has some grand plan. He's a man who managed to bankrupt a casino. He has no idea what he is doing.

A tariff war is insanely stupid. Bush implemented tariffs on steel and had to pull it back when it immediately negatively impacted the economy. Trump is doing tariffs 10x what Bush did. Harley already announced they are moving jobs oversees as a direct response to the new tariffs, and they will be the first of many companies. Prices are going to go up and people will lose jobs.

The economy is great courtesy of Obama, but Trump seems determined to fuck it up. It's mind-boggling.

Canada/Europe/China are matching our tariffs dollar for dollar, and if they choose to, they have unique options they could implement that would really hit us hard (which I could go into if anyone cares).

Tl;dr: Trump is going to fuck up a strong economy because he is an idiot.


It's almost as if a foreign power is going to benefit from the chaos Trump is causing...
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Lil69Leo
06/28/18 8:26:20 PM
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captpackrat posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...

Okay I've got a lot to say about this. Not a Trumpster.

People need to stop pretending Trump has some grand plan. He's a man who managed to bankrupt a casino. He has no idea what he is doing.

A tariff war is insanely stupid. Bush implemented tariffs on steel and had to pull it back when it immediately negatively impacted the economy. Trump is doing tariffs 10x what Bush did. Harley already announced they are moving jobs oversees as a direct response to the new tariffs, and they will be the first of many companies. Prices are going to go up and people will lose jobs.

The economy is great courtesy of Obama, but Trump seems determined to fuck it up. It's mind-boggling.

Canada/Europe/China are matching our tariffs dollar for dollar, and if they choose to, they have unique options they could implement that would really hit us hard (which I could go into if anyone cares).

Tl;dr: Trump is going to fuck up a strong economy because he is an idiot.


It's almost as if a foreign power is going to benefit from the chaos Trump is causing...


RUSSIAN INTENSIFIES
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yourDaddie
06/28/18 9:44:20 PM
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Lil69Leo posted...
captpackrat posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...

Okay I've got a lot to say about this. Not a Trumpster.

People need to stop pretending Trump has some grand plan. He's a man who managed to bankrupt a casino. He has no idea what he is doing.

A tariff war is insanely stupid. Bush implemented tariffs on steel and had to pull it back when it immediately negatively impacted the economy. Trump is doing tariffs 10x what Bush did. Harley already announced they are moving jobs oversees as a direct response to the new tariffs, and they will be the first of many companies. Prices are going to go up and people will lose jobs.

The economy is great courtesy of Obama, but Trump seems determined to fuck it up. It's mind-boggling.

Canada/Europe/China are matching our tariffs dollar for dollar, and if they choose to, they have unique options they could implement that would really hit us hard (which I could go into if anyone cares).

Tl;dr: Trump is going to fuck up a strong economy because he is an idiot.


It's almost as if a foreign power is going to benefit from the chaos Trump is causing...


RUSSIAN INTENSIFIES

China too... in fact if they team up they are stronger than America which is why we should remind friendly to the EU, Japan and Korea
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Fierce_Deity_08
06/28/18 10:00:34 PM
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Come to California. Because of the stupid Democrats we cant afford anything, you have to pay ten cents if you want a bag at the store, and they want to get rid of plastic straws next.
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yourDaddie
06/28/18 10:28:14 PM
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
Come to California. Because of the stupid Democrats we cant afford anything, you have to pay ten cents if you want a bag at the store, and they want to get rid of plastic straws next.


its good if we get rid of plastic. anyways my cousin lives in texas, everything is cheaper than in CA but he makes 20K a year less than me for the exact same position at the same company
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Mead
06/28/18 10:34:37 PM
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
Come to California. Because of the stupid Democrats we cant afford anything, you have to pay ten cents if you want a bag at the store, and they want to get rid of plastic straws next.


Good. Plastic waste is a global epidemic.
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Lil69Leo
06/28/18 11:26:09 PM
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
Come to California. Because of the stupid Democrats we cant afford anything, you have to pay ten cents if you want a bag at the store, and they want to get rid of plastic straws next.


Wahhh I'm too lazy to bring reusable bags.
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Fierce_Deity_08
06/28/18 11:56:59 PM
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Lil69Leo posted...
Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
Come to California. Because of the stupid Democrats we cant afford anything, you have to pay ten cents if you want a bag at the store, and they want to get rid of plastic straws next.


Wahhh I'm too lazy to bring reusable bags.


We mainly had the problem because people were too lazy to keep their trash to throw in a can instead of out their car window.
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ZackMorris
06/29/18 1:33:35 AM
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
Lil69Leo posted...
Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
Come to California. Because of the stupid Democrats we cant afford anything, you have to pay ten cents if you want a bag at the store, and they want to get rid of plastic straws next.


Wahhh I'm too lazy to bring reusable bags.


We mainly had the problem because people were too lazy to keep their trash to throw in a can instead of out their car window.

Stop exaggerating. If you want wasteful plastic so badly, move.
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lihlih
06/29/18 1:59:48 AM
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@McSame_as_Bush posted...
yourDaddie posted...
Do some of you really support protectionism? ... Do you really want to go back to the time when the middle class was only able to afford 1 tv, 1 car. Etc per household? Do you want. $10000 game consoles and $100 games... and all for a few jebs that no more than 2 per cent of americans would benefit? While at the same time making americans wo work on somethig releated to imports lose their jobs, make foreiners who make good money for their country lose their jobs....making american companies lose to foreing companies becuase they would place tarifs to Amerucan goods while they dint place tarifs on each other?.....

Sure we would win a trade war with China... But that is like 'winning' a fight against a weaker guy that while you manage to win by leaving him KO him to the hospital he manages to break your amrs and legs before he goes down


Okay I've got a lot to say about this. Not a Trumpster.

People need to stop pretending Trump has some grand plan. He's a man who managed to bankrupt a casino. He has no idea what he is doing.

A tariff war is insanely stupid. Bush implemented tariffs on steel and had to pull it back when it immediately negatively impacted the economy. Trump is doing tariffs 10x what Bush did. Harley already announced they are moving jobs oversees as a direct response to the new tariffs, and they will be the first of many companies. Prices are going to go up and people will lose jobs.

The economy is great courtesy of Obama, but Trump seems determined to fuck it up. It's mind-boggling.

Canada/Europe/China are matching our tariffs dollar for dollar, and if they choose to, they have unique options they could implement that would really hit us hard (which I could go into if anyone cares).

Tl;dr: Trump is going to fuck up a strong economy because he is an idiot.


Go into it pls.
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Revelation34
06/29/18 5:10:19 PM
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yourDaddie posted...
Do some of you really support protectionism? ... Do you really want to go back to the time when the middle class was only able to afford 1 tv, 1 car. Etc per household? Do you want. $10000 game consoles and $100 games... and all for a few jebs that no more than 2 per cent of americans would benefit? While at the same time making americans wo work on somethig releated to imports lose their jobs, make foreiners who make good money for their country lose their jobs....making american companies lose to foreing companies becuase they would place tarifs to Amerucan goods while they dint place tarifs on each other?.....

Sure we would win a trade war with China... But that is like 'winning' a fight against a weaker guy that while you manage to win by leaving him KO him to the hospital he manages to break your amrs and legs before he goes down


Never going to happen.
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yourDaddie
06/29/18 6:51:03 PM
#34:


lihlih posted...
@McSame_as_Bush posted...
yourDaddie posted...
Do some of you really support protectionism? ... Do you really want to go back to the time when the middle class was only able to afford 1 tv, 1 car. Etc per household? Do you want. $10000 game consoles and $100 games... and all for a few jebs that no more than 2 per cent of americans would benefit? While at the same time making americans wo work on somethig releated to imports lose their jobs, make foreiners who make good money for their country lose their jobs....making american companies lose to foreing companies becuase they would place tarifs to Amerucan goods while they dint place tarifs on each other?.....

Sure we would win a trade war with China... But that is like 'winning' a fight against a weaker guy that while you manage to win by leaving him KO him to the hospital he manages to break your amrs and legs before he goes down


Okay I've got a lot to say about this. Not a Trumpster.

People need to stop pretending Trump has some grand plan. He's a man who managed to bankrupt a casino. He has no idea what he is doing.

A tariff war is insanely stupid. Bush implemented tariffs on steel and had to pull it back when it immediately negatively impacted the economy. Trump is doing tariffs 10x what Bush did. Harley already announced they are moving jobs oversees as a direct response to the new tariffs, and they will be the first of many companies. Prices are going to go up and people will lose jobs.

The economy is great courtesy of Obama, but Trump seems determined to fuck it up. It's mind-boggling.

Canada/Europe/China are matching our tariffs dollar for dollar, and if they choose to, they have unique options they could implement that would really hit us hard (which I could go into if anyone cares).

Tl;dr: Trump is going to fuck up a strong economy because he is an idiot.


Go into it pls.

Because even if we 'win' that would be only for pride...the economy will be so bad that just because china or mexico have it worst doesnt mean it is good for America....eventually American companies will mot be able to compete and some may go away such as Harley Davidson that plans to move to Europe if Europe slaps taxes on american goods..it would criple or exports..even apple could move because the rest of the world is a larget market than america
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Miroku_of_Nite1
06/29/18 7:12:22 PM
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A brand new house cost about $13,000 in 1965. That's $102,743.58 in today's money. A house in the ghetto in my area with water damage goes for $130,000 and up.
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