Current Events > 39.8% of American adults are obese

(+) Yeah! (+)

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html
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Sounds about right.
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Among men, obesity prevalence was lower in the lowest and highest income groups compared with the middle income group. This pattern was seen among non-Hispanic white and Hispanic men. Obesity prevalence was higher in the highest income group than in the lowest income group among non-Hispanic black men.

Among women, obesity prevalence was lower in the highest income group than in the middle and lowest income groups. This pattern was observed among non-Hispanic white, non-Hispanic Asian, and Hispanic women. Among non-Hispanic black women, there was no difference in obesity prevalence by income.

I only recently learned how different obesity is between men and women
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This is incredible to me. I've been overweight for a long time but never anything approaching obese, I can't even imagine how horrible it would be to get winded from a single flight of stairs. And yet damn near 40% of our country is like this. It's an epidemic no one seems to actually care about.
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we better get that government funded healthcare

absolutely no risk of going bankrupt as we subsidize these people's bad behaviors
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

we better get that government funded healthcare

absolutely no risk of going bankrupt as we subsidize these people's bad behaviors

I don't understand this post, are you saying we don't currently subsidize them?
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if you factor in overweight too the statistics jump up

Almost 3 in 4 men (73.7 percent) were considered to be overweight or have obesity; and about 2 in 3 women (66.9) were considered to be overweight or have obesity.

https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity
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Yet I am not and I still can't get laid.
This is bullshit.
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Wow 40% obesity rate.

When you factor in overweight people, you're looking at a situation where people of "normal" weight are a minority.
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billcom6 posted...

Yet I am not and I still can't get laid.
This is bullshit.

Have you considered that it's something to do with this sort of attitude?

Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

Wow 40% obesity rate.

When you factor in overweight people, you're looking at a situation where people of "normal" weight are a minority.

which is why the fat apologetics movement is so prevalent these days and why all the land whales are writing bullshit about beauty standards lmao
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Balrog0 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

we better get that government funded healthcare

absolutely no risk of going bankrupt as we subsidize these people's bad behaviors

I don't understand this post, are you saying we don't currently subsidize them?

Would we not be subsidizing healthcare costs at a much higher percentage if we had complete government funded healthcare?
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

Wow 40% obesity rate.

When you factor in overweight people, you're looking at a situation where people of "normal" weight are a minority.

which is why the fat apologetics movement is so prevalent these days and why all the land whales are writing bullshit about beauty standards lmao

Eventually, they're going to have to revise what's normal, overweight and obese.

When most people's BMIs are over 25, we need to start rethinking these categories.
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Kazi1212 posted...

Would we not be subsidizing healthcare costs at a much higher percentage if we had complete government funded healthcare?
I don't know my gimmick

I dunno, because this is still framing the question incorrectly imo. Until we stop forcing hospitals to take on dying clients that can't pay, pretending we don't subsidize health care is a quaint fantasy.
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Asherlee10 posted...

40% seems low tbh

Then you really don't understand the weight of the situation.

Imagine the country is a bus. If 40% of the passengers are obese and outweigh the other 60% combined, then what happens if they all sit on one side of the bus? It'll fall over due to uneven weight distribution.

Just like the force, we need balance.

Balrog0 posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

Would we not be subsidizing healthcare costs at a much higher percentage if we had complete government funded healthcare?
I don't know my gimmick

I dunno, because this is still framing the question incorrectly imo. Until we stop forcing hospitals to take on dying clients that can't pay, pretending we don't subsidize health care is a quaint fantasy.

I dont think anyone is pretending we dont already subsidize healthcare for extenuating circumstances. Im a dialysis patient for instance, without dialysis I would die, so not so surprising the government subsidizes by dialysis treatments. But if the government were to subsidize health care costs for every single citizen for any reason whatsoever, that just seems as much a quaint fantasy as pretending we dont subsidize at all.
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Kazi1212 posted...

But if the government were to subsidize health care costs for every single citizen for any reason whatsoever, that just seems as much a quaint fantasy as pretending we dont subsidize at all.

what part is the fantasy?

I'm saying, arguing against UHC because it subsidizes peoples' health care is not an argument when we already subsidize peoples health care. At that point it is a question of efficacy and efficiency. I'm actually not clear what would happen if we covered every body. Costs go up on the front end by a lot, but costs per person go down a lot once you eliminate the costs associated with uncompensated care, unfunded mandates, and debt collection on the part of providers

my totally honest answer is that I suspect we would spend more or less the same amount, but more of it would be on the federal budget and less would be on state and local governments
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Asherlee10 posted...

Bacon_Pancakes posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

40% seems low tbh

Then you really don't understand the weight of the situation.

Imagine the country is a bus. If 40% of the passengers are obese and outweigh the other 60% combined, then what happens if they all sit on one side of the bus? It'll fall over due to uneven weight distribution.

Just like the force, we need balance.

I don't understand what that has to do with my comment, I'm sorry.

My comment is about a matter of perspective (anecdotal, sure). I'm in the Southern half of the U.S. where I see more obese people than someone would in New York or something. Way more than 40% of the population looks obese to me.

I just wanted to make the pun then the bus joke.

MC_BatCommander posted...

This is incredible to me. I've been overweight for a long time but never anything approaching obese, I can't even imagine how horrible it would be to get winded from a single flight of stairs. And yet damn near 40% of our country is like this. It's an epidemic no one seems to actually care about.

I know right?
Guzzles more High Fructose Corn Syrup
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I was obese at 230lbs a year ago. Now I'm just overweight at 180lbs.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

we better get that government funded healthcare

absolutely no risk of going bankrupt as we subsidize these people's bad behaviors

Now Im not saying its all the food industries fault, but they def deserve some blame when 8/10 food products on the shelf have added sugar.
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Esrac posted...

I was obese at 230lbs a year ago. Now I'm just overweight at 180lbs.

I can't imagine being that much. I can't even reach 125 lbs.
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I read this while eating my third donut
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Vol2tex posted...

Esrac posted...

I was obese at 230lbs a year ago. Now I'm just overweight at 180lbs.

I can't imagine being that much. I can't even reach 125 lbs.

wtf

are you a woman or a soyboy
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16-BITTER posted...

bob742omb posted...

if you factor in overweight too the statistics jump up

Almost 3 in 4 men (73.7 percent) were considered to be overweight or have obesity; and about 2 in 3 women (66.9) were considered to be overweight or have obesity.

https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity

Reminder that fit, muscular men and fit women with a larger bust are technically considered overweight as far as their BMI.

I wonder if that population of people skew the statistics that much in that particular study though. I do find it a bit odd that a higher percentage of men were considered over weight compared to women because literally everything else I've ever seen about the topic has always pointed to the opposite.
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The reason most people are over weight is because fat, sugar, and the things that make your food taste so good light up brain like drugs when you eat them, and while you under its spell, it bypasses the full gauge in your body so you eat more before feeling full.

Also, in case you didn't know, if you get obese and have major medical problems from eating fast food, you cannot sue them under the "Cheeseburger law" (FYI)
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I can't imagine being 150 lbs.... I'm sitting at 280 not quite comfortably, but I'm living. Its not like I'm super huge. I am overweight, but am able to do a .5K sprint if need be.

It's because obesity has such a useless definition.

People think of obese people as weighing 600lbs but in reality if you're 5'10" and 200lbs, you're obese.

If you're 5'10", the weight you're supposed to be is literally 150lbs.
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Zodd3224 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

we better get that government funded healthcare

absolutely no risk of going bankrupt as we subsidize these people's bad behaviors

Now Im not saying its all the food industries fault, but they def deserve some blame when 8/10 food products on the shelf have added sugar.

dont put garbage in your mouth. that's literally all you have to do to maintain your weight
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

Eventually, they're going to have to revise what's normal, overweight and obese.

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/53/00/ac/5300acab28a9f27c712e42528dd0911b--kevin-hart-meme-kevin-oleary.jpg
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Or we can go on a Healthy Foods Program and simplify foods on a National level.

Imagine replacing all White Wheat Products with Whole Wheat equivalents:
e.g. White Grain Rice with Brown Rice
White Bread / Buns replaced with Whole Grain equivalents.

Replace artificial sugars like High-Fructose Corn Syrup with Natural Cane Sugar.

etc.

On a National level, that should help lower the weight and improve health in general.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Or we can go on a Healthy Foods Program and simplify foods on a National level.

Imagine replacing all White Wheat Products with Whole Wheat equivalents:
e.g. White Grain Rice with Brown Rice
White Bread / Buns replaced with Whole Grain equivalents.

Replace artificial sugars like High-Fructose Corn Syrup with Natural Cane Sugar.

etc.

On a National level, that should help lower the weight and improve health in general.

Why should I have to forgo eating the junk food I want just because other people dont have the willpower to do so in moderation?
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

Zodd3224 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

we better get that government funded healthcare

absolutely no risk of going bankrupt as we subsidize these people's bad behaviors

Now Im not saying its all the food industries fault, but they def deserve some blame when 8/10 food products on the shelf have added sugar.

dont put garbage in your mouth. that's literally all you have to do to maintain your weight

Did you know even hamburger buns have added sugar? Hamburger buns!

But yes, most people that are overweight get there from eating crap like candy and drinking soda.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

we better get that government funded healthcare

absolutely no risk of going bankrupt as we subsidize these people's bad behaviors

obese people actually cost less to insure than healthy people
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This is all very depressing.
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Kazi1212 posted...

Why should I have to forgo eating the junk food I want just because other people dont have the willpower to do so in moderation?

Take one for the team.
You'd still have all your favorite foods, just healthier variants of the same thing.

Your burger, will now have Whole Wheat Buns.

Your Fried Rice, will have Brown Rice instead of White Rice.

Your Pizza will have Whole Wheat dough instead of the usual variant.

Etc.
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The obvious solution is more fat shaming
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Garioshi posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

we better get that government funded healthcare

absolutely no risk of going bankrupt as we subsidize these people's bad behaviors

obese people actually cost less to insure than healthy people

Yep, same with smokers, they dont live long enough to accrue the medical costs that people who love to normal life expectancy usually do. But its important to note between ages of 20-56, obese people rack up more in medical bills than a healthier person:

The researchers found that from age 20 to 56, obese people racked up the most expensive health costs. But because both the smokers and the obese people died sooner than the healthy group, it cost less to treat them in the long run.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/05iht-obese.1.9748884.html
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Kazi1212 posted...

Garioshi posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

we better get that government funded healthcare

absolutely no risk of going bankrupt as we subsidize these people's bad behaviors

obese people actually cost less to insure than healthy people

Yep, same with smokers, they dont live long enough to accrue the medical costs that people who love to normal life expectancy usually do. But its important to note between ages of 20-56, obese people rack up more in medical bills than a healthier person:

The researchers found that from age 20 to 56, obese people racked up the most expensive health costs. But because both the smokers and the obese people died sooner than the healthy group, it cost less to treat them in the long run.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/05iht-obese.1.9748884.html

I don't know why but that's...kinda funny. >_>
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

Why should I have to forgo eating the junk food I want just because other people dont have the willpower to do so in moderation?

Take one for the team.
You'd still have all your favorite foods, just healthier variants of the same thing.

Your burger, will now have Whole Wheat Buns.

Your Fried Rice, will have Brown Rice instead of White Rice.

Your Pizza will have Whole Wheat dough instead of the usual variant.

Etc.

For one, I despise whole wheat and white rice. I dont see a reason to take one for the team for something that can be solved by fostering a culture with better eating habits without the need to outright mandate a government sanctioned ban on certain foods like some authoritative state. Think of it this say, if you think the government has to step in and coddle people for something so basicas having better eating habits, then thats not exactly a population that can make rational decisions on a whole host of other important life choices either.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

Why should I have to forgo eating the junk food I want just because other people dont have the willpower to do so in moderation?

Take one for the team.
You'd still have all your favorite foods, just healthier variants of the same thing.

Your burger, will now have Whole Wheat Buns.

Your Fried Rice, will have Brown Rice instead of White Rice.

Your Pizza will have Whole Wheat dough instead of the usual variant.

Etc.

I aint eating that shit. I eat well enough and I exercise. Give me the food I like, Im responsible enough to handle it.
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Zodd3224 posted...

I aint eating that shit. I eat well enough and I exercise. Give me the food I like, Im responsible enough to handle it.

Fine, go buy your junk food; see if I care.
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Kazi1212 posted...

For one, I despise whole wheat and white rice. I dont see a reason to take one for the team for something that can be solved by fostering a culture with better eating habits without the need to outright mandate a government sanctioned ban on certain foods like some authoritative state. Think of it this say, if you think the government has to step in and coddle people for something so basic as having better eating habits, then thats not exactly a population that can make rational decisions on a whole host of other important life choices either.

Well then, most of society should be stripped of their voting rights since most of society can't make rational decisions then.
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Eat once a day.

You can still eat pretty much whatever you want, just fast for ~23 hours a day and then eat what you want at the end of the day within reason. You cant eat pizza and ice cream every day, but as long as its a semi-normal meal youll lose weight.
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I want to be just as fit as the Ancient Spartans.
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