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Full Throttle 06/08/18 8:12:26 PM #1: |
Do you have beef with DACA people staying in America? - Results (16 votes)
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Instead of walking with his graduating class, he was escorted to Mexico and just 3 weeks later he was found MURDERED with his throat slit!! He had a one year old son as well and was brought to the US by his parents but he qualified for DACA that protected him from deportation He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA and convicted of the drug charge, thus stripped him of his status But rather than face formal deportation, which bans return to the US for a number of years, he was granted Voluntary Departure and was taken to Mexico from Laredo, tExas on April 24th. 3 weeks later however, he was brutally murdered in a country he never known.. He was out getting food with an acquaintance of his cousin in Zacatecas, a region riddled with drug cartel and drug violence when both were killed..the killers apparently knew the acquaintance His death was a "symbol of gang supremacy in a country plagued by violent drug cartels" According to ICE public affairs officer, Shawn Neudauer, officers said he was arrested in April 2017 following a drug charge and he was to appear before a federal immigration judge where they found him criminal of his actions and terminated his DACA status and was to be sent back to Mexico immediately A memorial was held to honour his life at Trinity Las Americas church where family and friends said he was "always smiling and upbeat" He got into a real depression after his father was arrested 3 years ago but when he became a dad last year, he stepped into the role of a man of the family and transferred schools so he could study and worked installing floors to provide for his mother and 3 younger siblings. Do you have a problem with DACA people staying in America?. Manuel - Deceased http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/08/15/4D0DB2B500000578-5821593-image-m-20_1528468589861.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/08/15/4D0DB2CC00000578-5821593-image-m-17_1528468491647.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/08/15/4D0DB2DA00000578-5821593-image-m-19_1528468511116.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/08/15/4D0DB2C300000578-5821593-image-m-21_1528468664348.jpg --- call me mrduckbear, sweater monkeys. A GFAQS User Steps On A Bug, I'll Stop Posting for 24 HOURS. THIS ACCOUNT ONLY!! I'm an Asian Liberal. RESIST The Alt-Right ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AwesomeTurtwig 06/08/18 8:17:57 PM #2: |
Sounds like a Mexico problem.
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samuricex 06/08/18 8:19:43 PM #3: |
I actually don't think DACA people should be removed from the country, assuming they follow the laws.
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aHappySacka 06/08/18 8:22:29 PM #4: |
tl:dr smoking marijuana makes you a target of gangs, even they want to protect you from the devil's lettuce.
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Zikten 06/08/18 8:22:44 PM #5: |
The cartel just wanted to kill his cousin and he happened to be caught up in it
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Kyuubi4269 06/08/18 8:26:05 PM #6: |
Boy with criminal father from Mexico immigrates to the US, is also a criminal, is returned to family in Mexico, acquaintance is also criminal so they die in criminality.
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TheCyborgNinja 06/08/18 8:27:33 PM #7: |
because of 2 misdemeanors Fair. Fuck him. I wish everyone who drove under the influence got the same experience. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 06/08/18 8:29:41 PM #8: |
TheCyborgNinja posted...
because of 2 misdemeanors because of two misdemeanors? really? --- https://imgur.com/4ihiyS2 "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dioxxys 06/08/18 8:30:51 PM #9: |
TheCyborgNinja posted...
because of 2 misdemeanors Hope this is sarcasm poor guy this really sucks Shouldnt deport people for such trivial reasons ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheCyborgNinja 06/08/18 8:35:28 PM #10: |
Jen0125 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...because of 2 misdemeanors Any crime. He was given a gift and he did something he knew could jeopardize it. Bad things happen to stupid people. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 06/08/18 8:35:50 PM #11: |
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Jen0125 posted...TheCyborgNinja posted...because of 2 misdemeanors well, watch yourself then. --- https://imgur.com/4ihiyS2 "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeeVees 06/08/18 8:36:55 PM #12: |
Now let's get rid of the kid and the siblings.
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TheCyborgNinja 06/08/18 8:40:52 PM #13: |
dioxxys posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...because of 2 misdemeanors He could've killed somebody because of his irresponsible behaviour in a place that he technically didn't belong but was allowed to stay at due to the charitable nature of a government program giving him a chance. He's an ungrateful moron and I am not being sarcastic. If he'd been high and ran somebody over, would anyone be taking his side? Getting behind the wheel while impaired is inexcusable and he blew it. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheCyborgNinja 06/08/18 8:41:26 PM #14: |
Jen0125 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...Jen0125 posted...TheCyborgNinja posted...because of 2 misdemeanors You really don't want to start this. I don't like taking cheap shots or creating drama here, but you're objectively wrong. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 06/08/18 8:52:07 PM #15: |
wow that sure rustled your jimmies.
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sveksii 06/08/18 11:02:43 PM #16: |
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Jen0125 posted...To claim someone is objectively wrong when they've said a subjective statement is nonsensical.TheCyborgNinja posted...Jen0125 posted...TheCyborgNinja posted...because of 2 misdemeanors ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 06/08/18 11:23:51 PM #17: |
Full Throttle posted...
he was suddenly STRIPPED of his DACA status and his protection was taken away by ICE because of 2 misdemeanors!! Well, he shouldn't have suddenly committed 2 misdemeanors if he didn't want to suddenly get sent back. That's on him. Full Throttle posted... Instead of walking with his graduating class, he was escorted to Mexico and just 3 weeks later he was found MURDERED with his throat slit!! That was fast. Could have added another suddenly there, because getting offed within 3 weeks is pretty damn sudden. Full Throttle posted... He had a one year old son as well and was brought to the US by his parents but he qualified for DACA that protected him from deportation 18 with a 1 y/o and a criminal history? That guy's a winner... Full Throttle posted... He got into a real depression after his father was arrested 3 years ago but when he became a dad last year, he stepped into the role of a man of the family and transferred schools so he could study and worked installing floors to provide for his mother and 3 younger siblings. And if he was really responsible, he would have steered clear from drugs (and whatever else he did, if the other charge wasn't also pertaining to drugs) Full Throttle posted... Do you have a problem with DACA people staying in America?. Depends on how old they were when they came over and under what circumstances. If it was a 16 y/o who crossed the border by themselves then yeah, I have a problem with that. If it was a 3 y/o who was moved here illegally by a selfish, asshole parent who wanted to cut in line and who themselves has obeyed our laws then it's kinda hard to fault them for the sins of their asshole parent who put them in that spot. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 06/08/18 11:27:07 PM #18: |
Full Throttle posted...
He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA and convicted of the drug charge, thus stripped him of his status Fair, next. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 06/08/18 11:29:32 PM #19: |
Zeus posted...
18 with a 1 y/o and a criminal history? That guy's a winner... I thought he was 19... Anyway, I still don't know why we care about people coming here, tbh... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 06/09/18 12:19:08 AM #20: |
LinkPizza posted...
Zeus posted...18 with a 1 y/o and a criminal history? That guy's a winner... Typo, although 18 vs 19 doesn't make that much of a difference. He still had a kid while in high school. LinkPizza posted... Anyway, I still don't know why we care about people coming here, tbh... Because a country without borders isn't a country, and we need to keep track of the population. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Keebs05 06/09/18 12:28:33 AM #21: |
My only problem with DACA is that there's no real path to citizenship or permanent residency. Their status is always in limbo. It's not as easy as "just becoming a citizen" as a lot of people seem to think.
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Revelation34 06/09/18 12:36:38 AM #22: |
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Fair. Fuck him. I wish everyone who drove under the influence got the same experience. Marijuana makes you drive slower. TheCyborgNinja posted... If he'd been high and ran somebody over, would anyone be taking his side? Getting behind the wheel while impaired is inexcusable and he blew it. Oh I get it now. You know nothing about marijuana. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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blorfenburger 06/09/18 12:49:29 AM #23: |
Im wondering if there's a nice way to say "kill the evil mexicans." Genuinely curious
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Syntheticon 06/09/18 3:39:59 AM #24: |
AwesomeTurtwig posted...
Sounds like a Mexico problem.I wonder why they wanted to stay in the US then, after being brought as a child and raised as a 'murrican...? --- Mod me? You don't even know me! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 06/09/18 3:50:36 AM #25: |
Keebs05 posted...
My only problem with DACA is that there's no real path to citizenship or permanent residency. Their status is always in limbo. Which is what happens when policy is written on napkins >_> Revelation34 posted... TheCyborgNinja posted...If he'd been high and ran somebody over, would anyone be taking his side? Getting behind the wheel while impaired is inexcusable and he blew it. So basically you're implying that it's impossible get into an accident while stoned, right? I mean, it's not like the IIHS did a study or anything about this... http://www.iihs.org/iihs/news/desktopnews/legalizing-recreational-marijuana-is-linked-to-increased-crashes Syntheticon posted... AwesomeTurtwig posted...Sounds like a Mexico problem.I wonder why they wanted to stay in the US then, after being brought as a child and raised as a 'murrican...? How do you know he wasn't brought here and raised as a Frenchman? --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dioxxys 06/09/18 11:44:56 AM #26: |
Wow omg guys he smoked weed and drove, how awful.
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Zeus 06/09/18 12:42:31 PM #27: |
dioxxys posted...
Wow omg guys he smoked weed and drove, how awful. Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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argonautweakend 06/09/18 12:51:46 PM #28: |
"He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA"
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gguirao 06/09/18 12:55:44 PM #29: |
samuricex posted...
I actually don't think DACA people should be removed from the country, assuming they follow the laws. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 06/09/18 1:26:22 PM #30: |
dioxxys posted...
Wow omg guys he smoked weed and drove, how awful. Yes being out of it while driving is awful. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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argonautweakend 06/09/18 1:34:27 PM #31: |
look man i just find it funny because driving while high is actually easy and not really prone to accident.
Of course, I dont do it because it is illegal, and it should be illegal, but it isnt anything like driving drunk. I did that one time ever and realized i could have easily killed people, and never did it again. dumb move on my part, glad nobody got heart. learned immediately that was dumb as hell. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XlaxJynx007 06/09/18 1:51:15 PM #32: |
wwinterj25 posted...
Full Throttle posted...He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA and convicted of the drug charge, thus stripped him of his status --- XB1: MrMegaNutz Steam: Kennetic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jramirez23 06/09/18 2:06:04 PM #33: |
I mean marijuana affects people differently, so we dont know whether his driving skill actually does get impaired or not.
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Zeus 06/09/18 2:21:22 PM #34: |
argonautweakend posted...
look man i just find it funny because driving while high is actually easy and not really prone to accident. http://www.iihs.org/iihs/news/desktopnews/legalizing-recreational-marijuana-is-linked-to-increased-crashes jramirez23 posted... I mean marijuana affects people differently, so we dont know whether his driving skill actually does get impaired or not. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 06/09/18 3:45:14 PM #35: |
Zeus posted...
So basically you're implying that it's impossible get into an accident while stoned, right? I mean, it's not like the IIHS did a study or anything about this... What a reliable source. wwinterj25 posted... Yes being out of it while driving is awful. That doesn't happen with marijuana though. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BADoglick 06/09/18 3:59:05 PM #36: |
TheCyborgNinja posted...
because of 2 misdemeanors You know that DUI laws for cannabis are not based in reason, but rather to ensure guilt for the accused whether guilty or not, correct? Someone can smoke three weeks ago, be pulled over tonight, get a blood test and show positive, and then be charged with a DUI. There is no way for police to prove guilt unless they film you smoking, yet based on protocols there is no way for the accused to prove innocence. And when you consider current immigration policy and the quota demands that police have to meet, well then guess what you get... immigrants being deported when they just as likely could be innocent. --- BADoglick to the Max! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wwinterj25 06/09/18 4:41:44 PM #37: |
Revelation34 posted...
That doesn't happen with marijuana though. Actually it does. Being stoned makes some folk become nothing more than a lifeless corpse. You certainly don't have a clear mind no matter what you think. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PuddingBoy 06/09/18 4:55:21 PM #38: |
Another image Zeus spams for me to have uBlock... block <3
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dioxxys 06/10/18 9:26:10 AM #39: |
Zeus posted...
dioxxys posted...Wow omg guys he smoked weed and drove, how awful. Except you don't do time for being high while driving, it's just a misdemeanor. I'm saying the punishment for this particular instance is way out of line. You aren't deported to Mexico for this ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GanglyKhan 06/10/18 9:46:14 AM #40: |
samuricex posted...
I actually don't think DACA people should be removed from the country, assuming they follow the laws. This, plus have a job. This dude didn't seem to have the best track record, so hey, I have no issue with him being sent to Mexico. That's a sad outcome though, hopefully the family pulls through it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 06/10/18 1:29:08 PM #41: |
GanglyKhan posted...
samuricex posted...I actually don't think DACA people should be removed from the country, assuming they follow the laws. No article says anything remotely like this about him. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garlands_Soul 06/10/18 2:25:41 PM #42: |
2014, deaths from marijuana usage are statistically higher, but not as bad as alcohol
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stoned-driving-on-the-rise-not-as-risky-as-drinking-and-driving/ 2015, more deaths associated with marijuana than alcohol. https://www-m.cnn.com/2017/04/27/health/drugged-driving-death-rates-report/index.html Additional source stating that while it can be detected for a long period so the results may be skewed, it's still doubling (or more than doubling) your chance of getting into an accident. https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/does-marijuana-use-affect-driving And then it's just common sense that you're using something that makes you clearly impaired. Don't drive while you're on any drug that impairs you. People will inevitably live, but there's always that chance you fail to notice something and if you don't die someone else might. Don't be one of those people that only cares about safety until something actually happens to them anecdotally. Especially not when it's not just you that may be in danger. That's why we have these laws. Whether or not he should've be kicked out for this is a different question, but it's not like numbers don't support that driving under any drug makes it a whole lot worse for everyone. --- "I, Garland, will knock you all down!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShadosAtPhoenix 06/10/18 4:41:48 PM #43: |
dioxxys posted...
Except you don't do time for being high while driving, it's just a misdemeanor. I'm saying the punishment for this particular instance is way out of line. You aren't deported to Mexico for this It was someone that under normal circumstances, should not even have been allowed in the country. Then there's a somewhat controversial, law that allows people who should not be allowed to stay normally, to stay anyway. It's VERY conditional to you being squeaky freagin clean. And he wasn't. If he was a citizen or a regular green card holder, you're right. But he wasn't. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 06/11/18 12:28:29 AM #44: |
Garlands_Soul posted...
2014, deaths from marijuana usage are statistically higher, but not as bad as alcohol Lol --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ripparagon 06/11/18 3:05:25 AM #45: |
TheCyborgNinja posted...
dioxxys posted...TheCyborgNinja posted...because of 2 misdemeanors Weed doesn't hurt your body though expect for the fact that you are smoking a burnt substance cigarettes is worse??? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bulbinking 06/11/18 5:12:11 AM #46: |
Took till 19 to graduate modern day highschool, teen pregnant, driving while high while underage even where weed is legal.
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Revelation34 06/11/18 5:28:16 AM #47: |
bulbinking posted...
Took till 19 to graduate modern day highschool I guess you don't understand how birthdays work. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 06/11/18 7:22:47 AM #48: |
great job breaking the law after being given leniency for illegally being there. also intentionally breaking the law when you knew that was a condition for you remaining in the country
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bulbinking 06/11/18 11:35:41 AM #49: |
Revelation34 posted...
bulbinking posted...Took till 19 to graduate modern day highschool Oh no did I accidentally call you out or something? --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/261-politics/76648194 <Shill tactics listed! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 06/11/18 2:43:26 PM #50: |
Fam_Fam posted...
great job breaking the law after being given leniency for illegally being there. also intentionally breaking the law when you knew that was a condition for you remaining in the country Marijuana is marijuana. It was an overreaction. bulbinking posted... Oh no did I accidentally call you out or something? The only thing you did is show how ignorant you are. The earliest a person can graduate without skipping grades is 16. The latest a person can graduate without being held back is 19. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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