Poll of the Day > 19 y/o DACA Kid is MURDERED just 3 WEEKS after he was DEPORTED back to Mexico!!!

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Full Throttle
06/08/18 8:12:26 PM
#1:


Do you have beef with DACA people staying in America? - Results (16 votes)
Yes
43.75% (7 votes)
7
No
56.25% (9 votes)
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19 y/o Manuel Antonio Cano-Pacheco came to the U S when he was 3 and with no visa who was raised in Des Moines, Iowa and was about to graduate high school last month when he was suddenly STRIPPED of his DACA status and his protection was taken away by ICE because of 2 misdemeanors!!

Instead of walking with his graduating class, he was escorted to Mexico and just 3 weeks later he was found MURDERED with his throat slit!!

He had a one year old son as well and was brought to the US by his parents but he qualified for DACA that protected him from deportation

He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA and convicted of the drug charge, thus stripped him of his status

But rather than face formal deportation, which bans return to the US for a number of years, he was granted Voluntary Departure and was taken to Mexico from Laredo, tExas on April 24th.

3 weeks later however, he was brutally murdered in a country he never known..

He was out getting food with an acquaintance of his cousin in Zacatecas, a region riddled with drug cartel and drug violence when both were killed..the killers apparently knew the acquaintance

His death was a "symbol of gang supremacy in a country plagued by violent drug cartels"

According to ICE public affairs officer, Shawn Neudauer, officers said he was arrested in April 2017 following a drug charge and he was to appear before a federal immigration judge where they found him criminal of his actions and terminated his DACA status and was to be sent back to Mexico immediately

A memorial was held to honour his life at Trinity Las Americas church where family and friends said he was "always smiling and upbeat"

He got into a real depression after his father was arrested 3 years ago but when he became a dad last year, he stepped into the role of a man of the family and transferred schools so he could study and worked installing floors to provide for his mother and 3 younger siblings.

Do you have a problem with DACA people staying in America?.

Manuel - Deceased

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AwesomeTurtwig
06/08/18 8:17:57 PM
#2:


Sounds like a Mexico problem.
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samuricex
06/08/18 8:19:43 PM
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I actually don't think DACA people should be removed from the country, assuming they follow the laws.
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aHappySacka
06/08/18 8:22:29 PM
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tl:dr smoking marijuana makes you a target of gangs, even they want to protect you from the devil's lettuce.
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Zikten
06/08/18 8:22:44 PM
#5:


The cartel just wanted to kill his cousin and he happened to be caught up in it
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Kyuubi4269
06/08/18 8:26:05 PM
#6:


Boy with criminal father from Mexico immigrates to the US, is also a criminal, is returned to family in Mexico, acquaintance is also criminal so they die in criminality.

This is a solid argument for stricter borders.
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TheCyborgNinja
06/08/18 8:27:33 PM
#7:


because of 2 misdemeanors
He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA


Fair. Fuck him. I wish everyone who drove under the influence got the same experience.
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Jen0125
06/08/18 8:29:41 PM
#8:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
because of 2 misdemeanors
He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA


Fair. Fuck him. I wish everyone who drove under the influence got the same experience.


because of two misdemeanors? really?
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dioxxys
06/08/18 8:30:51 PM
#9:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
because of 2 misdemeanors
He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA


Fair. Fuck him. I wish everyone who drove under the influence got the same experience.

Hope this is sarcasm

poor guy
this really sucks
Shouldnt deport people for such trivial reasons
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TheCyborgNinja
06/08/18 8:35:28 PM
#10:


Jen0125 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
because of 2 misdemeanors
He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA


Fair. Fuck him. I wish everyone who drove under the influence got the same experience.


because of two misdemeanors? really?

Any crime. He was given a gift and he did something he knew could jeopardize it. Bad things happen to stupid people.
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Jen0125
06/08/18 8:35:50 PM
#11:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
Jen0125 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
because of 2 misdemeanors
He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA


Fair. Fuck him. I wish everyone who drove under the influence got the same experience.


because of two misdemeanors? really?

Any crime. He was given a gift and he did something he knew could jeopardize it. Bad things happen to stupid people.


well, watch yourself then.
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VeeVees
06/08/18 8:36:55 PM
#12:


Now let's get rid of the kid and the siblings.
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TheCyborgNinja
06/08/18 8:40:52 PM
#13:


dioxxys posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
because of 2 misdemeanors
He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA


Fair. Fuck him. I wish everyone who drove under the influence got the same experience.

Hope this is sarcasm

poor guy
this really sucks
Shouldnt deport people for such trivial reasons

He could've killed somebody because of his irresponsible behaviour in a place that he technically didn't belong but was allowed to stay at due to the charitable nature of a government program giving him a chance. He's an ungrateful moron and I am not being sarcastic. If he'd been high and ran somebody over, would anyone be taking his side? Getting behind the wheel while impaired is inexcusable and he blew it.
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TheCyborgNinja
06/08/18 8:41:26 PM
#14:


Jen0125 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Jen0125 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
because of 2 misdemeanors
He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA


Fair. Fuck him. I wish everyone who drove under the influence got the same experience.


because of two misdemeanors? really?

Any crime. He was given a gift and he did something he knew could jeopardize it. Bad things happen to stupid people.


well, watch yourself then.

You really don't want to start this. I don't like taking cheap shots or creating drama here, but you're objectively wrong.
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Jen0125
06/08/18 8:52:07 PM
#15:


wow that sure rustled your jimmies.
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sveksii
06/08/18 11:02:43 PM
#16:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
Jen0125 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Jen0125 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
because of 2 misdemeanors
He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA


Fair. Fuck him. I wish everyone who drove under the influence got the same experience.


because of two misdemeanors? really?

Any crime. He was given a gift and he did something he knew could jeopardize it. Bad things happen to stupid people.


well, watch yourself then.

You really don't want to start this. I don't like taking cheap shots or creating drama here, but you're objectively wrong.
To claim someone is objectively wrong when they've said a subjective statement is nonsensical.
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Zeus
06/08/18 11:23:51 PM
#17:


Full Throttle posted...
he was suddenly STRIPPED of his DACA status and his protection was taken away by ICE because of 2 misdemeanors!!


Well, he shouldn't have suddenly committed 2 misdemeanors if he didn't want to suddenly get sent back. That's on him.

Full Throttle posted...
Instead of walking with his graduating class, he was escorted to Mexico and just 3 weeks later he was found MURDERED with his throat slit!!


That was fast. Could have added another suddenly there, because getting offed within 3 weeks is pretty damn sudden.

Full Throttle posted...
He had a one year old son as well and was brought to the US by his parents but he qualified for DACA that protected him from deportation


18 with a 1 y/o and a criminal history? That guy's a winner...

Full Throttle posted...
He got into a real depression after his father was arrested 3 years ago but when he became a dad last year, he stepped into the role of a man of the family and transferred schools so he could study and worked installing floors to provide for his mother and 3 younger siblings.


And if he was really responsible, he would have steered clear from drugs (and whatever else he did, if the other charge wasn't also pertaining to drugs)

Full Throttle posted...
Do you have a problem with DACA people staying in America?.


Depends on how old they were when they came over and under what circumstances. If it was a 16 y/o who crossed the border by themselves then yeah, I have a problem with that. If it was a 3 y/o who was moved here illegally by a selfish, asshole parent who wanted to cut in line and who themselves has obeyed our laws then it's kinda hard to fault them for the sins of their asshole parent who put them in that spot.
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wwinterj25
06/08/18 11:27:07 PM
#18:


Full Throttle posted...
He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA and convicted of the drug charge, thus stripped him of his status


Fair, next.
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LinkPizza
06/08/18 11:29:32 PM
#19:


Zeus posted...
18 with a 1 y/o and a criminal history? That guy's a winner...

I thought he was 19...

Anyway, I still don't know why we care about people coming here, tbh...
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Zeus
06/09/18 12:19:08 AM
#20:


LinkPizza posted...
Zeus posted...
18 with a 1 y/o and a criminal history? That guy's a winner...

I thought he was 19...

Anyway, I still don't know why we care about people coming here, tbh...


Typo, although 18 vs 19 doesn't make that much of a difference. He still had a kid while in high school.

LinkPizza posted...
Anyway, I still don't know why we care about people coming here, tbh...


Because a country without borders isn't a country, and we need to keep track of the population.
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Keebs05
06/09/18 12:28:33 AM
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My only problem with DACA is that there's no real path to citizenship or permanent residency. Their status is always in limbo. It's not as easy as "just becoming a citizen" as a lot of people seem to think.
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Revelation34
06/09/18 12:36:38 AM
#22:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
Fair. Fuck him. I wish everyone who drove under the influence got the same experience.


Marijuana makes you drive slower.

TheCyborgNinja posted...
If he'd been high and ran somebody over, would anyone be taking his side? Getting behind the wheel while impaired is inexcusable and he blew it.


Oh I get it now. You know nothing about marijuana.
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blorfenburger
06/09/18 12:49:29 AM
#23:


Im wondering if there's a nice way to say "kill the evil mexicans." Genuinely curious
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Syntheticon
06/09/18 3:39:59 AM
#24:


AwesomeTurtwig posted...
Sounds like a Mexico problem.
I wonder why they wanted to stay in the US then, after being brought as a child and raised as a 'murrican...?
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Zeus
06/09/18 3:50:36 AM
#25:


Keebs05 posted...
My only problem with DACA is that there's no real path to citizenship or permanent residency. Their status is always in limbo.


Which is what happens when policy is written on napkins >_>

Revelation34 posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
If he'd been high and ran somebody over, would anyone be taking his side? Getting behind the wheel while impaired is inexcusable and he blew it.


Oh I get it now. You know nothing about marijuana.


So basically you're implying that it's impossible get into an accident while stoned, right? I mean, it's not like the IIHS did a study or anything about this...

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/news/desktopnews/legalizing-recreational-marijuana-is-linked-to-increased-crashes

Syntheticon posted...
AwesomeTurtwig posted...
Sounds like a Mexico problem.
I wonder why they wanted to stay in the US then, after being brought as a child and raised as a 'murrican...?


How do you know he wasn't brought here and raised as a Frenchman?
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dioxxys
06/09/18 11:44:56 AM
#26:


Wow omg guys he smoked weed and drove, how awful.
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Zeus
06/09/18 12:42:31 PM
#27:


dioxxys posted...
Wow omg guys he smoked weed and drove, how awful.


Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time.
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argonautweakend
06/09/18 12:51:46 PM
#28:


"He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA"

lmfao
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gguirao
06/09/18 12:55:44 PM
#29:


samuricex posted...
I actually don't think DACA people should be removed from the country, assuming they follow the laws.

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wwinterj25
06/09/18 1:26:22 PM
#30:


dioxxys posted...
Wow omg guys he smoked weed and drove, how awful.

Yes being out of it while driving is awful.
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argonautweakend
06/09/18 1:34:27 PM
#31:


look man i just find it funny because driving while high is actually easy and not really prone to accident.

Of course, I dont do it because it is illegal, and it should be illegal, but it isnt anything like driving drunk.

I did that one time ever and realized i could have easily killed people, and never did it again. dumb move on my part, glad nobody got heart. learned immediately that was dumb as hell.
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XlaxJynx007
06/09/18 1:51:15 PM
#32:


wwinterj25 posted...
Full Throttle posted...
He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA and convicted of the drug charge, thus stripped him of his status


Fair, next.

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jramirez23
06/09/18 2:06:04 PM
#33:


I mean marijuana affects people differently, so we dont know whether his driving skill actually does get impaired or not.
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Zeus
06/09/18 2:21:22 PM
#34:


argonautweakend posted...
look man i just find it funny because driving while high is actually easy and not really prone to accident.


http://www.iihs.org/iihs/news/desktopnews/legalizing-recreational-marijuana-is-linked-to-increased-crashes

jramirez23 posted...
I mean marijuana affects people differently, so we dont know whether his driving skill actually does get impaired or not.


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Revelation34
06/09/18 3:45:14 PM
#35:


Zeus posted...
So basically you're implying that it's impossible get into an accident while stoned, right? I mean, it's not like the IIHS did a study or anything about this...

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/news/desktopnews/legalizing-recreational-marijuana-is-linked-to-increased-crashes


What a reliable source.

wwinterj25 posted...
Yes being out of it while driving is awful.


That doesn't happen with marijuana though.
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BADoglick
06/09/18 3:59:05 PM
#36:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
because of 2 misdemeanors
He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA


Fair. Fuck him. I wish everyone who drove under the influence got the same experience.


You know that DUI laws for cannabis are not based in reason, but rather to ensure guilt for the accused whether guilty or not, correct?

Someone can smoke three weeks ago, be pulled over tonight, get a blood test and show positive, and then be charged with a DUI. There is no way for police to prove guilt unless they film you smoking, yet based on protocols there is no way for the accused to prove innocence. And when you consider current immigration policy and the quota demands that police have to meet, well then guess what you get... immigrants being deported when they just as likely could be innocent.
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wwinterj25
06/09/18 4:41:44 PM
#37:


Revelation34 posted...
That doesn't happen with marijuana though.


Actually it does. Being stoned makes some folk become nothing more than a lifeless corpse. You certainly don't have a clear mind no matter what you think.
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06/09/18 4:55:21 PM
#38:


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dioxxys
06/10/18 9:26:10 AM
#39:


Zeus posted...
dioxxys posted...
Wow omg guys he smoked weed and drove, how awful.


Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time.

Except you don't do time for being high while driving, it's just a misdemeanor. I'm saying the punishment for this particular instance is way out of line. You aren't deported to Mexico for this
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GanglyKhan
06/10/18 9:46:14 AM
#40:


samuricex posted...
I actually don't think DACA people should be removed from the country, assuming they follow the laws.

This, plus have a job.

This dude didn't seem to have the best track record, so hey, I have no issue with him being sent to Mexico. That's a sad outcome though, hopefully the family pulls through it.
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Revelation34
06/10/18 1:29:08 PM
#41:


GanglyKhan posted...
samuricex posted...
I actually don't think DACA people should be removed from the country, assuming they follow the laws.

This, plus have a job.

This dude didn't seem to have the best track record, so hey, I have no issue with him being sent to Mexico. That's a sad outcome though, hopefully the family pulls through it.


No article says anything remotely like this about him.
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Garlands_Soul
06/10/18 2:25:41 PM
#42:


2014, deaths from marijuana usage are statistically higher, but not as bad as alcohol
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stoned-driving-on-the-rise-not-as-risky-as-drinking-and-driving/

2015, more deaths associated with marijuana than alcohol.
https://www-m.cnn.com/2017/04/27/health/drugged-driving-death-rates-report/index.html

Additional source stating that while it can be detected for a long period so the results may be skewed, it's still doubling (or more than doubling) your chance of getting into an accident.
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/does-marijuana-use-affect-driving

And then it's just common sense that you're using something that makes you clearly impaired.

Don't drive while you're on any drug that impairs you. People will inevitably live, but there's always that chance you fail to notice something and if you don't die someone else might. Don't be one of those people that only cares about safety until something actually happens to them anecdotally. Especially not when it's not just you that may be in danger. That's why we have these laws.

Whether or not he should've be kicked out for this is a different question, but it's not like numbers don't support that driving under any drug makes it a whole lot worse for everyone.
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ShadosAtPhoenix
06/10/18 4:41:48 PM
#43:


dioxxys posted...
Except you don't do time for being high while driving, it's just a misdemeanor. I'm saying the punishment for this particular instance is way out of line. You aren't deported to Mexico for this


It was someone that under normal circumstances, should not even have been allowed in the country. Then there's a somewhat controversial, law that allows people who should not be allowed to stay normally, to stay anyway. It's VERY conditional to you being squeaky freagin clean. And he wasn't.

If he was a citizen or a regular green card holder, you're right. But he wasn't.
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Muscles
06/11/18 12:28:29 AM
#44:


Garlands_Soul posted...
2014, deaths from marijuana usage are statistically higher, but not as bad as alcohol
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stoned-driving-on-the-rise-not-as-risky-as-drinking-and-driving/

2015, more deaths associated with marijuana than alcohol.
https://www-m.cnn.com/2017/04/27/health/drugged-driving-death-rates-report/index.html

Additional source stating that while it can be detected for a long period so the results may be skewed, it's still doubling (or more than doubling) your chance of getting into an accident.
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/does-marijuana-use-affect-driving

And then it's just common sense that you're using something that makes you clearly impaired.

Don't drive while you're on any drug that impairs you. People will inevitably live, but there's always that chance you fail to notice something and if you don't die someone else might. Don't be one of those people that only cares about safety until something actually happens to them anecdotally. Especially not when it's not just you that may be in danger. That's why we have these laws.

Whether or not he should've be kicked out for this is a different question, but it's not like numbers don't support that driving under any drug makes it a whole lot worse for everyone.

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ripparagon
06/11/18 3:05:25 AM
#45:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
dioxxys posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
because of 2 misdemeanors
He was caught driving under the influence of MARIJUANA


Fair. Fuck him. I wish everyone who drove under the influence got the same experience.

Hope this is sarcasm

poor guy
this really sucks
Shouldnt deport people for such trivial reasons

He could've killed somebody because of his irresponsible behaviour in a place that he technically didn't belong but was allowed to stay at due to the charitable nature of a government program giving him a chance. He's an ungrateful moron and I am not being sarcastic. If he'd been high and ran somebody over, would anyone be taking his side? Getting behind the wheel while impaired is inexcusable and he blew it.

Weed doesn't hurt your body though expect for the fact that you are smoking a burnt substance cigarettes is worse???
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bulbinking
06/11/18 5:12:11 AM
#46:


Took till 19 to graduate modern day highschool, teen pregnant, driving while high while underage even where weed is legal.

Nothing of value was lost.

Even if he was born here and white as the snow. There are no identity politics that can be used here.
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Revelation34
06/11/18 5:28:16 AM
#47:


bulbinking posted...
Took till 19 to graduate modern day highschool


I guess you don't understand how birthdays work.
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Fam_Fam
06/11/18 7:22:47 AM
#48:


great job breaking the law after being given leniency for illegally being there. also intentionally breaking the law when you knew that was a condition for you remaining in the country

completely preventable by the man

fair, next
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bulbinking
06/11/18 11:35:41 AM
#49:


Revelation34 posted...
bulbinking posted...
Took till 19 to graduate modern day highschool


I guess you don't understand how birthdays work.


Oh no did I accidentally call you out or something?
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Revelation34
06/11/18 2:43:26 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
great job breaking the law after being given leniency for illegally being there. also intentionally breaking the law when you knew that was a condition for you remaining in the country

completely preventable by the man

fair, next


Marijuana is marijuana. It was an overreaction.

bulbinking posted...
Oh no did I accidentally call you out or something?


The only thing you did is show how ignorant you are. The earliest a person can graduate without skipping grades is 16. The latest a person can graduate without being held back is 19.
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