Poll of the Day > 28 y/o CHRISTIAN Stands up and Yells GOD at AVENGERS Screening causing HAVOC!!!

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28 y/o Christian Nutjob, Michael Ray Webber caused movie theatre havoc in California after he stood up during the middle of the opening of Avengers: Infinity War and raised his arms in the air and screamed GOD...at that point people started SCREAMING and YELLING as they ran over each other and one woman jumped over the RAILINGS to get away..

The whack preacher sparked fears of a shooting at Redlands Harkins Theatre in San Bernadino when he suddenly got out of his seat to scream that word..

He started preaching about God and triggered mass panic thinking he had a gun

A woman LEAPT over a balcony to escape and fel 20 FEET to the ground where she was then TRAMPLED on by others trying ot get out..

Dozens of people started phoning police, including one who made a false claim that someone made "30-40 shots"

Michael says he was "confused" by the reaction and said he intentionally held his hands up to show he was not armed and says he regularly preaches about God during film screenings so that more people follow the path of God since young people were "no longer believing"..

He was arrested at the scene as police checked his home to determine if he was a threat. He was charged for "offensive language likely to cause a violent reaction"

2 people were seriously injured in the mass escape...

Do you think this freak should get jail time for this??

Where it happened -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/28/20/4BA87BE300000578-0-image-m-57_1524945178414.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/04/28/20/4BA87BDA00000578-0-image-a-55_1524945173739.jpg
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Full Throttle posted...

28 y/o Christian Nutjob, Michael Ray Webber caused movie theatre havoc in California after he stood up during the middle of the opening of Avengers: Infinity War and raised his arms in the air and screamed GOD...at that point people started SCREAMING and YELLING as they ran over each other and one woman jumped over the RAILINGS to get away..

So you mean if I just shout GOD I get the place to myself?
I must try that one time.

Full Throttle posted...

Do you think this christian whacko should get jail time for this?

Just for shouting a word? No.
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I'm Christian
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Community service should suffice. Maybe a fine to the theater for damages caused by the escaping theatergoers.

There's no need to put a guy in jail/prison for a "crime" like this, which really just boils down to cause a panic.

I understand why people would freak out at something like this nowadays but I don't know how you can really charge someone with a crime when they didn't threaten anyone or have a weapon

Lol everyone in California is a big pus. Not news.
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OhhhJa posted...

I understand why people would freak out at something like this nowadays but I don't know how you can really charge someone with a crime when they didn't threaten anyone or have a weapon

Theoretically, freedom of speech can be a weapon.

KingHova045 posted...

Lol everyone in California is a big pus. Not news.

Not everyone in California is a "big pus".

Just give him some cummunity service or something... and maybe a fine since people got hurt...
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Lock him the fuck up for causing a panic. Assholes like him must be taught a lesson.
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Jail? No. Psych ward and introduced to a good therapist? Maybe.
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lihlih posted...

Assholes like him must be taught a lesson.

I find this ironic.
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Screaming during a movie are going to get people to convert, right... It's like those stupid protesters who block roads. Ruining peoples day do not make them think highly of you or your preaching.
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Full Throttle posted...

he regularly preaches about God during film screenings so that more people follow the path of God since young people were "no longer believing"..

He didn't plan this out, ok?
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I think this is the equivalent of shouting "FIRE" in a public area like an airport. The first amendment doesn't protect you here, and causing a panic for no reason should never go unpunished (even if unintentional). I'm not sure if prison is the right punishment, but at least a fine and community service should suffice.

Also, I fail to see how shouting "GOD" at everyone is enough to convert them, lol.
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wwinterj25 posted...

lihlih posted...

Assholes like him must be taught a lesson.

I find this ironic.

Why?
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SeahorseCpt89 posted...

Also, I fail to see how shouting "GOD" at everyone is enough to convert them, lol.

Sheeple will believe anything
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death penalty
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This was hilarious until the bit about the woman falling and being trampled.

I mean it's not like he said Allahu Akbar.

Lokarin posted...

SeahorseCpt89 posted...

Also, I fail to see how shouting "GOD" at everyone is enough to convert them, lol.

Sheeple will believe anything

Reading the post suggests he intended to preach during the movie, or at least before it I guess. I imagine the shouting was just an attention grabber...
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He shouldn't get anything. The people chose to injure themselves. These people were in no way in harm or being threatened. They need to learn to grow up if arv yelled booger and someone decided to self harm themselves thats on them
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that or maybe his message was so powerful people were trying to run to church because he reminded everyone that service was about to start soon
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LinkPizza posted...

Just give him some cummunity service or something... and maybe a fine since people got hurt...

Hot.
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I'm not sure that's a foreseeable consequence?

The thing about shouting fire is that you know what you're doing. You know people are going to panic in trying to escape the non-existent fire. While this is a really bizarre way to try to convert people, I'm not sure if that sort of reaction can be reasonably anticipated. Usually when someone shouts in a theater, it's just rude, but doesn't cause any sort of panic.
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I just came back to CA. Is this real?

I think a permaban at that theater should suffice.
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Entity13 posted...

Jail? No. Psych ward and introduced to a good therapist? Maybe.

Uhh
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Steven010702 posted...

I think a permaban at that theater should suffice.

This is fair.

He interrupts movies and adnitted he does it regularly. Okay no more movies then. But jail for it is crazy.

Maybe a fine because like you cant preach at malls but you dont get arrested
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LittleRoyal posted...

Steven010702 posted...

I think a permaban at that theater should suffice.

This is fair.

He interrupts movies and adnitted he does it regularly. Okay no more movies then. But jail for it is crazy.

Maybe a fine because like you cant preach at malls but you dont get arrested

Inciting public panic is illegal.
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Soraiku posted...

I mean it's not like he said Allahu Akbar

There have been more Christian terrorists than Muslim ones. I don't know if he just yelled God or something else as well, but I can easily see that being startling.

Somebody interrupts your movie to preach about God and sin or judgement could be seen as someone giving a speech to their imminent victims.
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slacker03150 posted...

Soraiku posted...

I mean it's not like he said Allahu Akbar

There have been more Christian terrorists than Muslim ones. I don't know if he just yelled God or something else as well, but I can easily see that being startling.

Somebody interrupts your movie to preach about God and sin or judgement could be seen as someone giving a speech to their imminent victims.

Make sure you qualify that statement. Most terrorists are not Christians. In America though, perhaps yeah. Good security I guess, so we mostly just deal with our own psychopaths.

Other than that, for sure, I'd have probably been startled as well, but I probably would have stopped when I noticed the guy seemed more bewildered than prepping for detonation. But maybe not lol.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Just for shouting a word? No.

For shouting a word? Yea.

Can't yell fire in a theater. When I'm in a theater and some nut nob stands up and waves his arms and starts yelling I don't care if he is yelling "fire" "allah" or "god". I'm perceiving him as a threat. It's not protected speech. What he did was a crime, just like calling in a bomb threat is not protected speech.

He bears responsibility for his actions, and I'm more troubled by him saying he frequently does this. Fuck him, people aren't paying money to have their movie ruined by his inane ranting.

BlackScythe0 posted...

For shouting a word? Yea.

Nah.
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wwinterj25 posted...

BlackScythe0 posted...

For shouting a word? Yea.

Nah.

So you have no concern for the law. Noted.

BlackScythe0 posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

BlackScythe0 posted...

For shouting a word? Yea.

Nah.

So you have no concern for the law. Noted.

It really should depend on the word. At least before today, I would not have thought shouting "God!" would start such a panic.
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Golden Road posted...

BlackScythe0 posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

BlackScythe0 posted...

For shouting a word? Yea.

Nah.

So you have no concern for the law. Noted.

It really should depend on the word. At least before today, I would not have thought shouting "God!" would start such a panic.

It's questionable how many people heard him. Regardless of what he yelled someone standing up in a dark theater and yelling ANYTHING is very abnormal behavior. We live in a world that is going insane, and we can't just deem people who do bizarre things as harmless anymore. It's not like a theater shooting has never occurred before.

BlackScythe0 posted...

So you have no concern for the law. Noted.

I've no concern over snowflakes getting upset over the use of one word no. Keep that noted.
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wwinterj25 posted...

BlackScythe0 posted...

So you have no concern for the law. Noted.

I've no concern over snowflakes getting upset over the use of one word no. Keep that noted.

Well the supreme court disagrees with you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenck_v._United_States

BlackScythe0 posted...

Well the supreme court disagrees with you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenck_v._United_States

Good job I'm not American then.
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wwinterj25 posted...

BlackScythe0 posted...

Well the supreme court disagrees with you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenck_v._United_States

Good job I'm not American then.

Where outside of the US would this be considered legal?

BlackScythe0 posted...

Where outside of the US would this be considered legal?

Church, the sea, in a forest, at strippers joint.
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wwinterj25 posted...

BlackScythe0 posted...

Where outside of the US would this be considered legal?

Church, the sea, in a forest, at strippers joint.

-.-

I meant inciting panic in a theater.

Not places where someone could yell a particular word.

BlackScythe0 posted...

I meant inciting panic in a theater.

When any horror movie is shown.
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Fuck this self-righteous piece of trash.

Just let people enjoy their movie, ffs.
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That's against the rules of every theater. He should be escorted out for ruining people's movie experience.
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If he does this frequently, what normally happens?
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LinkPizza posted...

If he does this frequently, what normally happens?

Probably people get annoyed and shout back at him to shut up, and he gets kicked out.
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Golden Road posted...

LinkPizza posted...

If he does this frequently, what normally happens?

Probably people get annoyed and shout back at him to shut up, and he gets kicked out.

So, it probably never works, and he still does it. I do wanna see if he started acting confused since it never happens like that.
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I believe the law states you are responsible for any injuries that occur if you incite a crowd to panic due to your actions (as long as they are not warranted).

In this case, he may not have expected shouting "God" would cause a panic, but that does not excuse him from the fact that it did.

Any injuries therefore, are his fault, both legally and financially.

While I think Jail time is stupid in such a case (and most cases, I hate jails), I do think something needs to be done so that he compensates the people he hurt, and the lives he disrupted. Community service, fines etc. If he is a "man of god" then he can now show that by supporting the community, helping the poor and helping pay for any medical bills that arose due to his actions.

He shouldn't even need the government to tell him that.
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SeahorseCpt89 posted...

I think this is the equivalent of shouting "FIRE" in a public area like an airport. The first amendment doesn't protect you here, and causing a panic for no reason should never go unpunished (even if unintentional). I'm not sure if prison is the right punishment, but at least a fine and community service should suffice.

Also, I fail to see how shouting "GOD" at everyone is enough to convert them, lol.

The difference between shouting "fire" and "god" is an overt attempt to cause alarm. While I'm not necessarily saying he shouldn't be punished, it's not even close to being the same thing. His action was weird and disruptive, but the word choice doesn't seem intended to alarm or cause panic. And bear in mind that even if he isn't charged criminally, he can sued for the injuries resulting from his action.

And, honestly, people charging out is a dramatic overreaction. Shouting in theaters is obnoxious but not that uncommon. The only thing I can imagine is "god" sounded like "gun"

Golden Road posted...

I'm not sure that's a foreseeable consequence?

The thing about shouting fire is that you know what you're doing. You know people are going to panic in trying to escape the non-existent fire. While this is a really bizarre way to try to convert people, I'm not sure if that sort of reaction can be reasonably anticipated. Usually when someone shouts in a theater, it's just rude, but doesn't cause any sort of panic.

This. Which would still leave him open to a civil suit, though.

lihlih posted...

Inciting public panic is illegal.

Which requires intent.
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BlackScythe0 posted...

For shouting a word? Yea.

Can't yell fire in a theater. When I'm in a theater and some nut nob stands up and waves his arms and starts yelling I don't care if he is yelling "fire" "allah" or "god". I'm perceiving him as a threat. It's not protected speech. What he did was a crime, just like calling in a bomb threat is not protected speech.

He bears responsibility for his actions, and I'm more troubled by him saying he frequently does this. Fuck him, people aren't paying money to have their movie ruined by his inane ranting.

Comparing shouting "God" to phoning in a bomb threat is the ultimate in intellectually disingenuous arguments. >_>

BlackScythe0 posted...

Well the supreme court disagrees with you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenck_v._United_States

If you'd bothered reading your source:

In this opinion, Holmes said that expressions which in the circumstances were intended to result in a crime, and posed a "clear and present danger" of succeeding, could be punished.

Which, again, requires intent. When somebody shouts "fire" in a crowded theater, they're intending to cause a panic. When somebody shouts "god" or any other number of other things, there's no explicit intent to cause panic unless we lived in a nation which believed the Rapture was right around the corner and god was forcibly spiriting people up.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Where outside of the US would this be considered legal?

Pretty much everywhere? You'd still be kicked out of the theater, but most places wouldn't necessarily arrest you for shouting "god." It's weird and it's disruptive, but it's more of a thing that's handled by the establishment than the cops.

slacker03150 posted...

There have been more Christian terrorists than Muslim ones.

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No, but he really needs to be told to not do that.
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