Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 170: The Title Doesn't Matter

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redrocket 04/27/18 1:43:56 PM #452:	Nelson_Mandela posted... The Mana Sword posted... So I guess the Korean War is finally ending later this year. Never thought that would actually happen. IB no one gives Trump (and his volatility) credit for this How exactly did Trump cause this? --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:900405445] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Mana Sword posted...</cite> <quote>So I guess the Korean War is finally ending later this year. Never thought that would actually happen.</quote> IB no one gives Trump (and his volatility) credit for this</quote> How exactly did Trump cause this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 04/27/18 1:54:17 PM #453:	We need to stop fighting or this maniac will nuke you and he might not know which country is which --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:900406053] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>We need to stop fighting or this maniac will nuke you and he might not know which country is which</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 04/27/18 1:56:23 PM #454:	redrocket posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... The Mana Sword posted... So I guess the Korean War is finally ending later this year. Never thought that would actually happen. IB no one gives Trump (and his volatility) credit for this How exactly did Trump cause this? Here's a more fair question.... How did he NOT?... --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:900406178] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>redrocket posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Mana Sword posted...</cite> <quote>So I guess the Korean War is finally ending later this year. Never thought that would actually happen.</quote> IB no one gives Trump (and his volatility) credit for this</quote> How exactly did Trump cause this?</quote> Here's a more fair question.... How did he NOT?...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 04/27/18 1:58:11 PM #455:	EmDubyaSee posted... redrocket posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... The Mana Sword posted... So I guess the Korean War is finally ending later this year. Never thought that would actually happen. IB no one gives Trump (and his volatility) credit for this How exactly did Trump cause this? Here's a more fair question.... How did he NOT?... did trump cause north korea to blow up their own testing and development site? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:900406288] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>redrocket posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Mana Sword posted...</cite> <quote>So I guess the Korean War is finally ending later this year. Never thought that would actually happen.</quote> IB no one gives Trump (and his volatility) credit for this</quote> How exactly did Trump cause this?</quote> Here's a more fair question.... How did he NOT?...</quote> did trump cause north korea to blow up their own testing and development site?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 04/27/18 1:58:35 PM #456:	redrocket posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... The Mana Sword posted... So I guess the Korean War is finally ending later this year. Never thought that would actually happen. IB no one gives Trump (and his volatility) credit for this How exactly did Trump cause this? Pressured China to pressure North Korea. I am in no way in support of the general Trump foreign policy but I call em like I see em. Trump and the US just precipitated the end of the Korean War. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:900406313] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>redrocket posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Mana Sword posted...</cite> <quote>So I guess the Korean War is finally ending later this year. Never thought that would actually happen.</quote> IB no one gives Trump (and his volatility) credit for this</quote> How exactly did Trump cause this?</quote> Pressured China to pressure North Korea. I am in no way in support of the general Trump foreign policy but I call em like I see em. Trump and the US just precipitated the end of the Korean War.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 04/27/18 1:59:14 PM #457:	EmDubyaSee posted... redrocket posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... The Mana Sword posted... So I guess the Korean War is finally ending later this year. Never thought that would actually happen. IB no one gives Trump (and his volatility) credit for this How exactly did Trump cause this? Here's a more fair question.... How did he NOT?... I mean, unless you think its a GOOD thing that Trumps incendiary rhetoric made NK rev up their nuclear weapons testing, which led to their testing facility getting fucked up and defanging the only real threat they had going for them... --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:900406343] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>redrocket posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Mana Sword posted...</cite> <quote>So I guess the Korean War is finally ending later this year. Never thought that would actually happen.</quote> IB no one gives Trump (and his volatility) credit for this</quote> How exactly did Trump cause this?</quote> Here's a more fair question.... How did he NOT?...</quote> I mean, unless you think its a GOOD thing that Trumps incendiary rhetoric made NK rev up their nuclear weapons testing, which led to their testing facility getting fucked up and defanging the only real threat they had going for them...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Mana Sword 04/27/18 2:00:23 PM #458:	I'm more inclined to give Moon most of the credit, but whatever. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Gylgamesh501.png <cite>The Mana Sword posted [p:900406409] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>I'm more inclined to give Moon most of the credit, but whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UInstinctGogeta 04/27/18 2:01:37 PM #459:	Espeon posted... EmDubyaSee posted... redrocket posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... The Mana Sword posted... So I guess the Korean War is finally ending later this year. Never thought that would actually happen. IB no one gives Trump (and his volatility) credit for this How exactly did Trump cause this? Here's a more fair question.... How did he NOT?... I mean, unless you think its a GOOD thing that Trumps incendiary rhetoric made NK rev up their nuclear weapons testing, which led to their testing facility getting fucked up and defanging the only real threat they had going for them... Do you somehow deny that wasnt Trumps doing? <cite>UInstinctGogeta posted [p:900406478] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>redrocket posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Mana Sword posted...</cite> <quote>So I guess the Korean War is finally ending later this year. Never thought that would actually happen.</quote> IB no one gives Trump (and his volatility) credit for this</quote> How exactly did Trump cause this?</quote> Here's a more fair question.... How did he NOT?...</quote> I mean, unless you think its a GOOD thing that Trumps incendiary rhetoric made NK rev up their nuclear weapons testing, which led to their testing facility getting fucked up and defanging the only real threat they had going for them...</quote> Do you somehow deny that wasnt Trumps doing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Not_an_Owl 04/27/18 2:07:36 PM #460:	I think it's certainly possible Trump had something to do with the (apparent) resolution in Korea. The NK regime really, really doesn't want a U.S. invasion and with Trump in office they're no longer confident that it won't happen. I think that fear (together with the collapse of their nuclear testing site and some degree of Chinese influence) is probably what's driving them here. --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. <cite>Not_an_Owl posted [p:900406854] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>I think it's certainly possible Trump had something to do with the (apparent) resolution in Korea. The NK regime really, really doesn't want a U.S. invasion and with Trump in office they're no longer confident that it won't happen. I think that fear (together with the collapse of their nuclear testing site and some degree of Chinese influence) is probably what's driving them here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 04/27/18 2:07:42 PM #461:	UInstinctGogeta posted... Espeon posted... EmDubyaSee posted... redrocket posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... The Mana Sword posted... So I guess the Korean War is finally ending later this year. Never thought that would actually happen. IB no one gives Trump (and his volatility) credit for this How exactly did Trump cause this? Here's a more fair question.... How did he NOT?... I mean, unless you think its a GOOD thing that Trumps incendiary rhetoric made NK rev up their nuclear weapons testing, which led to their testing facility getting fucked up and defanging the only real threat they had going for them... Do you somehow deny that wasnt Trumps doing? Do you somehow deny that, if not for sheer dumb luck in NK fucking up their own testing facility, Trumps actions accomplished nothing other than egging on an irrational madman with a penchant for firing missiles at our allies? --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:900406861] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>UInstinctGogeta posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>redrocket posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Mana Sword posted...</cite> <quote>So I guess the Korean War is finally ending later this year. Never thought that would actually happen.</quote> IB no one gives Trump (and his volatility) credit for this</quote> How exactly did Trump cause this?</quote> Here's a more fair question.... How did he NOT?...</quote> I mean, unless you think its a GOOD thing that Trumps incendiary rhetoric made NK rev up their nuclear weapons testing, which led to their testing facility getting fucked up and defanging the only real threat they had going for them...</quote> Do you somehow deny that wasnt Trumps doing?</quote> Do you somehow deny that, if not for sheer dumb luck in NK fucking up their own testing facility, Trumps actions accomplished nothing other than egging on an irrational madman with a penchant for firing missiles at our allies?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
banananor 04/27/18 2:11:30 PM #462:	hey, if the korean war finally ends in a good way i don't care who takes the credit obviously people laid the foundation in the past and people are executing in the present taking responsibility for the good and bad things that happen under your watch is important --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. <cite>banananor posted [p:900407081] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>hey, if the korean war finally ends in a good way i don't care who takes the credit obviously people laid the foundation in the past and people are executing in the present taking responsibility for the good and bad things that happen under your watch is important</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 04/27/18 2:12:46 PM #464:	Wrong topic Yo --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:900407166] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>Wrong topic Yo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainOfCrush 04/27/18 2:29:05 PM #465:	The topic titles look so similar to me! Oh well, happy to have been on the same wavelength with you (just later... and in the wrong topic). --- Yoblazer http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif <cite>CaptainOfCrush posted [p:900408035] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>The topic titles look so similar to me! Oh well, happy to have been on the same wavelength with you (just later... and in the wrong topic).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charmander6000 04/27/18 2:50:23 PM #466:	There's a range of reasons for North Korea potentially changing position. Trump obviously gets some credit, but so do other people/nations/organizations. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru <cite>charmander6000 posted [p:900409245] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>There's a range of reasons for North Korea potentially changing position. Trump obviously gets some credit, but so do other people/nations/organizations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 04/27/18 2:52:24 PM #467:	The North Korean economy tanking because of conditional changes in China should get most of the credit but everyone likes assigning credit to politicians for some reason --- Board 8's Voice of Reason http://i.imgur.com/chXIw06.jpg <cite>Eddv posted [p:900409381] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>The North Korean economy tanking because of conditional changes in China should get most of the credit but everyone likes assigning credit to politicians for some reason</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 04/27/18 3:51:34 PM #468:	Trump being a fucking lunatic very well might have been a significant factor here, but I think it's also something that increases the probability of war. In this case we may have lucked out and have gotten a good outcome, but I'm very skeptical that the expected value of the madman strategy is positive (especially since the worst case scenario is very, very bad, so increasing the odds even a little is very dangerous). --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:900413259] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>Trump being a fucking lunatic very well might have been a significant factor here, but I think it's also something that increases the probability of war. In this case we may have lucked out and have gotten a good outcome, but I'm very skeptical that the expected value of the madman strategy is positive (especially since the worst case scenario is very, very bad, so increasing the odds even a little is very dangerous).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 04/27/18 5:49:25 PM #469:	eh, the korean war ending... i'll believe it when i see it. seems kind of premature to go "OMG NOBODY IS GIVING TRUMP CREDIT FOR THIS" when it hasn't fucking happened yet. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:900420488] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>eh, the korean war ending... i'll believe it when i see it. seems kind of premature to go "OMG NOBODY IS GIVING TRUMP CREDIT FOR THIS" when it hasn't fucking happened yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 04/27/18 5:56:18 PM #470:	That's true as well. It's very possible that nothing actually ends up being accomplished here. --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:900420845] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>That's true as well. It's very possible that nothing actually ends up being accomplished here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BowserCuffs 04/27/18 6:13:54 PM #471:	The thing about politics is everything is posturing until actions of consequence are taken. There's also the fact that North Korea will probably still be a dystopian hellhole even after peace is made. --- Don't curse the darkness - light a candle. <cite>BowserCuffs posted [p:900421730] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>The thing about politics is everything is posturing until actions of consequence are taken. There's also the fact that North Korea will probably still be a dystopian hellhole even after peace is made.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 04/27/18 10:51:47 PM #472:	From WaPo: A federal judge on Friday granted Michael Cohens request for a delay in a lawsuit brought against him by porn star Stormy Daniels, saying it appeared likely Cohen will be indicted in a related criminal investigation Does this tell us anything we didnt already know? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:900435652] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>From WaPo: <quote>A federal judge on Friday granted Michael Cohens request for a delay in a lawsuit brought against him by porn star Stormy Daniels, saying it appeared likely Cohen will be indicted in a related criminal investigation</quote> Does this tell us anything we didnt already know?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 04/28/18 12:24:23 AM #473:	4/27/2018 TWITTER - Josh Lederman (AP) Attribution is a bear - the only unredacted words on this page of the House Russia report https://t.co/wLyVW33OFb PICTURE OF REDACTED PAGE https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/989869246862766080?s=19 eyes squint --- Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX! http://i.imgur.com/Dr4NAeq.png <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:900439471] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>4/27/2018 TWITTER - Josh Lederman (AP) Attribution is a bear - the only unredacted words on this page of the House Russia report https://t.co/wLyVW33OFb PICTURE OF REDACTED PAGE https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/989869246862766080?s=19 eyes squint</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 04/28/18 1:01:30 AM #474:	HaRRicH posted... 4/27/2018 TWITTER - Josh Lederman (AP) Attribution is a bear - the only unredacted words on this page of the House Russia report https://t.co/wLyVW33OFb PICTURE OF REDACTED PAGE https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/989869246862766080?s=19 eyes squint The paragraphs above and below are marked unclassified and they're still redacted. It's like, why even release it? --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:900440899] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>HaRRicH posted...</cite> <quote>4/27/2018 TWITTER - Josh Lederman (AP) Attribution is a bear - the only unredacted words on this page of the House Russia report https://t.co/wLyVW33OFb PICTURE OF REDACTED PAGE https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/989869246862766080?s=19 eyes squint</quote> The paragraphs above and below are marked unclassified and they're still redacted. It's like, why even release it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 04/28/18 6:24:54 AM #475:	And yet anti-liberal attitudes are so prevalent people still prefer Trump as POTUS over most anyone else. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:900448445] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>And yet anti-liberal attitudes are so prevalent people still prefer Trump as POTUS over most anyone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 04/28/18 12:36:59 PM #476:	http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/385248-seattle-officials-file-motion-to-vacate-marijuana-convictions Some rare good news! Hopefully it becomes a trend nation-wide. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:900458772] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/385248-seattle-officials-file-motion-to-vacate-marijuana-convictions Some rare good news! Hopefully it becomes a trend nation-wide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 04/28/18 12:40:39 PM #477:	Fail to see how that is "good" news, but okay. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:900458921] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>Fail to see how that is "good" news, but okay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 04/28/18 12:43:38 PM #478:	Corrik posted... Fail to see how that is "good" news Shocking. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:900459051] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Fail to see how that is "good" news</quote> Shocking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 04/28/18 12:52:43 PM #479:	Corrik posted... Fail to see how that is "good" news, but okay. It's good news because people who went to jail over possessing a plant will be released. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:900459402] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Fail to see how that is "good" news, but okay. </quote> It's good news because people who went to jail over possessing a plant will be released.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 04/28/18 12:55:38 PM #480:	Dancedreamer posted... Corrik posted... Fail to see how that is "good" news, but okay. It's good news because people who went to jail over possessing a plant will be released. How is that "good" news? At the very least, it is people who went to jail because they broke the law and were punished according to the laws which were established beforehand. I could see being indifferent to it because you disagree with the law or so on. But, to see it as "good"? Seems weird to me. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:900459549] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Fail to see how that is "good" news, but okay. </quote> It's good news because people who went to jail over possessing a plant will be released.</quote> How is that "good" news? At the very least, it is people who went to jail because they broke the law and were punished according to the laws which were established beforehand. I could see being indifferent to it because you disagree with the law or so on. But, to see it as "good"? Seems weird to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 04/28/18 12:58:03 PM #481:	Corrik posted... Dancedreamer posted... Corrik posted... Fail to see how that is "good" news, but okay. It's good news because people who went to jail over possessing a plant will be released. How is that "good" news? At the very least, it is people who went to jail because they broke the law and were punished according to the laws which were established beforehand. I could see being indifferent to it because you disagree with the law or so on. But, to see it as "good"? Seems weird to me. If a law was created in bad faith and said law is being challenged across the country, then yes, it's a good thing to free people sentenced (and sentenced to inordinate lengths of time) under the restrictions of that bad faith law. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:900459634] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Fail to see how that is "good" news, but okay. </quote> It's good news because people who went to jail over possessing a plant will be released.</quote> How is that "good" news? At the very least, it is people who went to jail because they broke the law and were punished according to the laws which were established beforehand. I could see being indifferent to it because you disagree with the law or so on. But, to see it as "good"? Seems weird to me.</quote> If a law was created in bad faith and said law is being challenged across the country, then yes, it's a good thing to free people sentenced (and sentenced to inordinate lengths of time) under the restrictions of that bad faith law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 04/28/18 12:59:06 PM #482:	Corrik posted... I could see being indifferent to it because you disagree with the law or so on. But, to see it as "good"? Seems weird to me. If John goes to jail for a murder he didn't commit, and he's released--you don't see his release as a good thing? --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:900459671] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>I could see being indifferent to it because you disagree with the law or so on. But, to see it as "good"? Seems weird to me. </quote> If John goes to jail for a murder he didn't commit, and he's released--you don't see his release as a good thing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JeffreyRaze 04/28/18 1:00:37 PM #483:	Assume someone disagrees with the law and sit at neutral. Then ignoring all moral arguments, you save 32k-ish tax dollars per inmate released. Neutral and a positive make a positive. --- JeffRaze, for all your random spellcasting needs <cite>JeffreyRaze posted [p:900459738] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>Assume someone disagrees with the law and sit at neutral. Then ignoring all moral arguments, you save 32k-ish tax dollars per inmate released. Neutral and a positive make a positive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 04/28/18 1:03:00 PM #484:	Y'all really, really don't have to do this argument, we could be talking about the end of slavery and Corrik would be like, "they were enslaved legally... I just don't get how it's a good thing." It's not worth it. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:900459840] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>Y'all really, really don't have to do this argument, we could be talking about the end of slavery and Corrik would be like, "they were enslaved legally... I just don't get how it's a good thing." It's not worth it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 04/28/18 1:03:20 PM #485:	Corrik posted... How is that "good" news? At the very least, it is people who went to jail because they broke the law and were punished according to the laws which were established beforehand. And if those laws change, you still think the people imprisoned beforehand should serve out their original punishment instead of having it amended to what it would be today? Is that justice to you? Why do you think its strange that people care about each other more than they care about arbitrary rules? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:900459851] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> How is that "good" news? At the very least, it is people who went to jail because they broke the law and were punished according to the laws which were established beforehand. </quote> And if those laws change, you still think the people imprisoned beforehand should serve out their original punishment instead of having it amended to what it would be today? Is that justice to you? Why do you think its strange that people care about each other more than they care about arbitrary rules?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 04/28/18 1:04:25 PM #486:	Dancedreamer posted... Corrik posted... I could see being indifferent to it because you disagree with the law or so on. But, to see it as "good"? Seems weird to me. If John goes to jail for a murder he didn't commit, and he's released--you don't see his release as a good thing? That is the worst analogy to this I have ever heard. The analogy would be if John went to jail for murder he DID commit and the law had clear repercussions for it. You wouldn't see his release as a good thing? Like, this isn't for people who were falsely convicted. This is for people who did an illegal crime and were justly (I assume) convicted. Your analogy is way different. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:900459903] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>I could see being indifferent to it because you disagree with the law or so on. But, to see it as "good"? Seems weird to me. </quote> If John goes to jail for a murder he didn't commit, and he's released--you don't see his release as a good thing?</quote> That is the worst analogy to this I have ever heard. The analogy would be if John went to jail for murder he DID commit and the law had clear repercussions for it. You wouldn't see his release as a good thing? Like, this isn't for people who were falsely convicted. This is for people who did an illegal crime and were justly (I assume) convicted. Your analogy is way different.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 04/28/18 1:06:17 PM #487:	Kenri posted... Y'all really, really don't have to do this argument, we could be talking about the end of slavery and Corrik would be like, "they were enslaved legally... I just don't get how it's a good thing." It's not worth it. Dictatorship is overthrown Corrik: The rebels who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime should still serve out their sentences under the new regime they were fighting to establish. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:900459979] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kenri posted...</cite> <quote>Y'all really, really don't have to do this argument, we could be talking about the end of slavery and Corrik would be like, "they were enslaved legally... I just don't get how it's a good thing." It's not worth it.</quote> Dictatorship is overthrown Corrik: The rebels who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime should still serve out their sentences under the new regime they were fighting to establish.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 04/28/18 1:06:33 PM #488:	Some laws are subjectively and perhaps objectively worth maintaining the punishment for people who previously broke the laws in question before they were no longer laws. This is one I'm pleased to see go more sympathetically. Good on Seattle (and California passed a variation of this too at the beginning of the year, so more broadly good on the west coast). --- Nominate METAL MAN for 20XX! http://i.imgur.com/Dr4NAeq.png <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:900459989] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>Some laws are subjectively and perhaps objectively worth maintaining the punishment for people who previously broke the laws in question before they were no longer laws. This is one I'm pleased to see go more sympathetically. Good on Seattle (and California passed a variation of this too at the beginning of the year, so more broadly good on the west coast).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 04/28/18 1:07:37 PM #489:	Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... How is that "good" news? At the very least, it is people who went to jail because they broke the law and were punished according to the laws which were established beforehand. And if those laws change, you still think the people imprisoned beforehand should serve out their original punishment instead of having it amended to what it would be today? Is that justice to you? Why do you think its strange that people care about each other more than they care about arbitrary rules? If the age of consent is 18, and a 40 year old sleeps with a 17 year old and is convicted for statutory rape. Then the state changes the age of consent to 17. Do you think that person should be released? The point is that it was Illegal when you did it and you knowing the repercussions, still chose to do it. I mean, are you going to argue that the person in question there did not commit a crime? And, if they did commit a crime, there are repercussions for them. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:900460035] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> How is that "good" news? At the very least, it is people who went to jail because they broke the law and were punished according to the laws which were established beforehand. </quote> And if those laws change, you still think the people imprisoned beforehand should serve out their original punishment instead of having it amended to what it would be today? Is that justice to you? Why do you think its strange that people care about each other more than they care about arbitrary rules?</quote> If the age of consent is 18, and a 40 year old sleeps with a 17 year old and is convicted for statutory rape. Then the state changes the age of consent to 17. Do you think that person should be released? The point is that it was Illegal when you did it and you knowing the repercussions, still chose to do it. I mean, are you going to argue that the person in question there did not commit a crime? And, if they did commit a crime, there are repercussions for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 04/28/18 1:08:54 PM #490:	I personally think the correct response should be indifference. I don't see how it could ever be a good thing. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:900460083] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>I personally think the correct response should be indifference. I don't see how it could ever be a good thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 04/28/18 1:09:23 PM #491:	Corrik posted... If the age of consent is 18, and a 40 year old sleeps with a 17 year old and is convicted for statutory rape. Then the state changes the age of consent to 17. Do you think that person should be released? Of fucking course they should be! What the fuck?!?! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:900460110] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> If the age of consent is 18, and a 40 year old sleeps with a 17 year old and is convicted for statutory rape. Then the state changes the age of consent to 17. Do you think that person should be released?</quote> Of fucking course they should be! What the fuck?!?!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 04/28/18 1:10:34 PM #492:	Corrik posted... I personally think the correct response should be indifference. I don't see how it could ever be a good thing. Because I dont like it when people are imprisoned unless they have to be because they are dangerous --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:900460160] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>I personally think the correct response should be indifference. I don't see how it could ever be a good thing.</quote> Because I dont like it when people are imprisoned unless they have to be because they are dangerous</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 04/28/18 1:10:49 PM #493:	Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... If the age of consent is 18, and a 40 year old sleeps with a 17 year old and is convicted for statutory rape. Then the state changes the age of consent to 17. Do you think that person should be released? Of fucking course they should be! What the fuck?!?! No they shouldn't be.... But this is about a plant right now. I can't imange how heartless someone would have to be to say on something like weed we should maintain punishment . --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:900460174] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> If the age of consent is 18, and a 40 year old sleeps with a 17 year old and is convicted for statutory rape. Then the state changes the age of consent to 17. Do you think that person should be released?</quote> Of fucking course they should be! What the fuck?!?!</quote> No they shouldn't be.... But this is about a plant right now. I can't imange how heartless someone would have to be to say on something like weed we should maintain punishment .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 04/28/18 1:13:10 PM #494:	Jakyl25 posted... Corrik posted... If the age of consent is 18, and a 40 year old sleeps with a 17 year old and is convicted for statutory rape. Then the state changes the age of consent to 17. Do you think that person should be released? Of fucking course they should be! What the fuck?!?! You (in this topic)argued that Moore was a "pedophile", should not be allowed in office, and is a piece of shit who should be in jail because he might have slept with girls ages 17 and 16 when the age of consent in Alabama is 16. = / lol Now because it isn't front of you, you are arguing a convicted sex offender should be released, taken off the registry, and so on because the law he knowingly broke was changed later for whatever reason. rolls eyes I can see offenders in states everywhere seeing this and trying to amend their sentences. Laws change all the times, including changes to mandatory mins, fines, etc. You are always punished based upon the laws that were in effect at the time of your crime. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:900460278] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> If the age of consent is 18, and a 40 year old sleeps with a 17 year old and is convicted for statutory rape. Then the state changes the age of consent to 17. Do you think that person should be released?</quote> Of fucking course they should be! What the fuck?!?!</quote> You (in this topic)argued that Moore was a "pedophile", should not be allowed in office, and is a piece of shit who should be in jail because he might have slept with girls ages 17 and 16 when the age of consent in Alabama is 16. = / lol Now because it isn't front of you, you are arguing a convicted sex offender should be released, taken off the registry, and so on because the law he knowingly broke was changed later for whatever reason. rolls eyes I can see offenders in states everywhere seeing this and trying to amend their sentences. Laws change all the times, including changes to mandatory mins, fines, etc. You are always punished based upon the laws that were in effect at the time of your crime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 04/28/18 1:13:49 PM #495:	EmDubyaSee posted... I can't imange how heartless someone would have to be to say on something like weed we should maintain punishment . Fucking MWC is correctly calling someone else heartless As good a place to end the topic as any --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:900460303] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote>I can't imange how heartless someone would have to be to say on something like weed we should maintain punishment .</quote> Fucking MWC is correctly calling someone else heartless As good a place to end the topic as any</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 04/28/18 1:16:16 PM #496:	It's not heartless. It is a crime. They chose to commit it. Pretty much how the legal process works. If the punishments have no weight, then the laws have no weight. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:900460409] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>It's not heartless. It is a crime. They chose to commit it. Pretty much how the legal process works. If the punishments have no weight, then the laws have no weight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dancedreamer 04/28/18 1:16:20 PM #497:	I think you mean "14 year old" --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra <cite>Dancedreamer posted [p:900460412] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>I think you mean "14 year old"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 04/28/18 1:16:49 PM #498:	Dancedreamer posted... I think you mean "14 year old" I meant what I said. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:900460434] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dancedreamer posted...</cite> <quote>I think you mean "14 year old"</quote> I meant what I said.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 04/28/18 1:17:14 PM #499:	Jakyl25 posted... EmDubyaSee posted... I can't imange how heartless someone would have to be to say on something like weed we should maintain punishment . Fucking MWC is correctly calling someone else heartless As good a place to end the topic as any I just wanted to say I loved the Title of this topic so much, I was trying to steal it for the wrestling one, verbatim, and it would have a totally different meaning... --- Tom Bombadil: "you are probably the king of b8 dragonball fans at least!" <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:900460465] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>EmDubyaSee posted...</cite> <quote>I can't imange how heartless someone would have to be to say on something like weed we should maintain punishment .</quote> Fucking MWC is correctly calling someone else heartless As good a place to end the topic as any</quote> I just wanted to say I loved the Title of this topic so much, I was trying to steal it for the wrestling one, verbatim, and it would have a totally different meaning...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 04/28/18 1:17:38 PM #500:	Go Heels --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:900460484] in Politics C... [t:76539419]...</cite> <quote>Go Heels</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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