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ChaosTonyV4
04/25/18 7:19:36 PM
#352:


Corrik posted...
CelesMyUserName posted...
Shaduln posted...
Let's just get UBI and single payer and eliminate like 90% of the overhead.

Oversimplifying sure but.

my neighboring city is one of the 5 taking part in Ontario's UBI testing project

(so far producing good results!)

Finland's half ass attempt just crash and burned hard.


What qualifies as crash and burn?
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Corrik
04/25/18 7:20:33 PM
#353:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Corrik posted...
CelesMyUserName posted...
Shaduln posted...
Let's just get UBI and single payer and eliminate like 90% of the overhead.

Oversimplifying sure but.

my neighboring city is one of the 5 taking part in Ontario's UBI testing project

(so far producing good results!)

Finland's half ass attempt just crash and burned hard.


What qualifies as crash and burn?

They are stopping it?

Though it was stupid how they did it. They just gave it to 500 unemployed people. It was pointless.
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StealThisSheen
04/25/18 7:21:22 PM
#354:


Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Like, here's an example

Tom lives in Middle of Nowhere, Kentucky. He can't afford to move. There aren't a lot of businesses, nor any decent sized cities within reasonable distance, so finding a job is tough. He applies to every job he can find, but only gets called for one interview during the month of April. Because he lives in Middle of Nowhere, Kentucky, there are no job training or volunteer programs available.

Would you say Tom deserves to just be told "You don't qualify?"

This is a legitimate example based on where I live, by the way.

Their government will enroll you in job training. Or you can volunteer if you prefer while continuing to apply to every job.


Spoilers: Middle of Nowhere, Kentucky chased out the only job training program that was available not just in the city, but in the area, so that's not a possibility anymore unless people wanna drive 5 hours to a bigger city where the program moved to.

Plus, I think they said they are making a portal in Kentucky for your job searching. So it would be logged on there I assume.


They already have a portal that they are revamping. The portal lets them keep note of which interviews you receive and then you have to get somebody to sign off that you actually went to it. That's how they keep track of how many you get.

Basically, eastern Kentucky is a shit show and I feel sorry for the able-bodied people here who are looking for work
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NFUN
04/25/18 7:30:27 PM
#355:


Corrik posted...
Finland's half ass attempt just crash and burned hard.

So don't half-ass it you cock
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Shaduln
04/25/18 7:33:49 PM
#356:


Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Like, here's an example

Tom lives in Middle of Nowhere, Kentucky. He can't afford to move. There aren't a lot of businesses, nor any decent sized cities within reasonable distance, so finding a job is tough. He applies to every job he can find, but only gets called for one interview during the month of April. Because he lives in Middle of Nowhere, Kentucky, there are no job training or volunteer programs available.

Would you say Tom deserves to just be told "You don't qualify?"

This is a legitimate example based on where I live, by the way.

Their government will enroll you in job training. Or you can volunteer if you prefer while continuing to apply to every job.


Spoilers: Middle of Nowhere, Kentucky chased out the only job training program that was available not just in the city, but in the area, so that's not a possibility anymore unless people wanna drive 5 hours to a bigger city where the program moved to.

Plus, I think they said they are making a portal in Kentucky for your job searching. So it would be logged on there I assume.

I'm imagining a dimensional portal in Kentucky and I kinda love it.
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Corrik
04/25/18 7:37:38 PM
#357:


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43866700

That said, I approve of a UBI and Universal Healthcare. AS LONG as it is provided to every last citizen. No matter their income. But, I do expect a heavy tax increase that mostly hits the upper tax levels. (Though it is to be expected across the board).
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Shaduln
04/25/18 7:38:36 PM
#358:


Corrik posted...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43866700

That said, I approve of a UBI and Universal Healthcare. AS LONG as it is provided to every last citizen. No matter their income. But, I do expect a heavy tax increase that mostly hits the upper tax levels. (Though it is to be expected across the board).

I agree with this.
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Eddv
04/25/18 7:39:05 PM
#359:


There is a Stargate in Eastern Kentucky -

STARGATE JUS-1 - starring Timothy Olyphant as Raylan Givens and James Spader as Dr. Daniel Jackson.
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Mr Lasastryke
04/25/18 7:57:09 PM
#360:


my country also experimented with basic income. not sure how that worked out, though.
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Jakyl25
04/25/18 8:05:09 PM
#361:


Michael Cohen is pleading the fifth

Im pretty sure theres a Trump tweet for that
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Forceful_Dragon
04/25/18 8:15:33 PM
#362:


Jakyl25 posted...
Michael Cohen is pleading the fifth

Im pretty sure theres a Trump tweet for that


This is the first thing i could find

https://mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/989275369843937281
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Peace___Frog
04/25/18 10:06:20 PM
#363:


Corrik posted...
I assume.

Can we just quote this every time he adamantly states something as fact
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Corrik
04/25/18 11:28:29 PM
#364:


Not rly politics related but I know like 7 people on this list. Color me not surprised.

https://www.wpxi.com/news/top-stories/elementary-teacher-one-of-dozens-charged-in-large-scale-drug-trafficking-operation/738311487
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LapisLazuli
04/26/18 1:42:52 AM
#365:


I picked a good day to ignore this topic it seems.

Complete devolution.
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Mega Mana
04/26/18 8:52:51 AM
#366:


LapisLazuli posted...
I picked a good day to ignore this topic it seems.

Complete devolution.


That's conversations with Corrik for ya.
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Corrik
04/26/18 9:24:37 AM
#367:


Mega Mana posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
I picked a good day to ignore this topic it seems.

Complete devolution.


That's conversations with Corrik for ya.

I agree. Like 8 people tried to change what the work requirements entailed to complain how bad it was.
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Mr Lasastryke
04/26/18 9:43:06 AM
#368:


Corrik posted...
I agree. Like 8 people tried to change what the work requirements entailed to complain how bad it was.


you never responded to post #354.
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The Mana Sword
04/26/18 9:43:10 AM
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My Immortal
04/26/18 10:01:11 AM
#370:


He also admitted to staying the night in Moscow at the time of the pee tape. Hasn't he been denying that?
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My Immortal
04/26/18 10:03:48 AM
#371:


Oh my god he's literally screaming.

Those hosts look so uncomfortable.
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The Mana Sword
04/26/18 10:06:20 AM
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Mr Lasastryke
04/26/18 10:06:57 AM
#373:


4D screaming
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The Mana Sword
04/26/18 10:08:52 AM
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Jakyl25
04/26/18 10:09:19 AM
#375:


The Mana Sword posted...
https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/989489275111641089

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8SpYLwY_eM" data-time="


uhhh


Tfw youve got the most powerful man in the country coming on your show and proving himself to be a deranged lunatic live on the air
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Jakyl25
04/26/18 10:11:32 AM
#376:


My Immortal posted...
He also admitted to staying the night in Moscow at the time of the pee tape. Hasn't he been denying that?


Well you see, he denied it according to Comey, and Trumps position is that Comey is a liar, so now Trump has worked himself into a corner where hes now boasting that he was there the night of the pee tape and he never said otherwise

He 4D checkmated himself
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Regaro
04/26/18 10:14:08 AM
#377:


Not watching the vids at work without headphones

But

...what?
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Jakyl25
04/26/18 10:14:38 AM
#378:


Mr. President, its YOUR justice department! is a great line

Im so sad they cut him off to change the subject right as he was going into ITS A FIX!!!
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Jakyl25
04/26/18 10:15:49 AM
#379:


Regaro posted...
Not watching the vids at work without headphones

But

...what?


Imagine what Trump would say in private if you just gave him 7 minutes to air his grievances

Its that but maybe with fewer swear words
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Corrik
04/26/18 10:16:30 AM
#380:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
Corrik posted...
I agree. Like 8 people tried to change what the work requirements entailed to complain how bad it was.


you never responded to post #354.

I can't respond to a post that is supposedly specified to an area that does not involve mine.

Nothing says there are interview requirements involved in their job seeking for the Kentucky work requirement. Hard for me to comment on something that I have no information to go on in regards to it. I do not know if they have even stated what counts in regards to it yet.
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Mr Lasastryke
04/26/18 10:20:12 AM
#381:


Corrik posted...
I can't respond to a post that is supposedly specified to an area that does not involve mine.


right. realizing that areas other than the one you live in exist and that they may be different as far as job searching goes is a good first step.
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Regaro
04/26/18 10:22:55 AM
#382:


Jakyl25 posted...
Regaro posted...
Not watching the vids at work without headphones

But

...what?


Imagine what Trump would say in private if you just gave him 7 minutes to air his grievances

Its that but maybe with fewer swear words

I mean, I get the gist of what was said via discussions on it.

But it's like

"He actually literally said these things on national TV? Is he even stupider than anybody thought?"
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Jakyl25
04/26/18 10:24:53 AM
#383:


https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/989474790820990981?s=21

Trump tells Fox and Friends that he decided to do an interview with them because it's Melania's birthday. Asked what he got her, he pauses and says, "Maybe I didn't get her so much. I got her a beautiful card."

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Mr Lasastryke
04/26/18 10:27:08 AM
#384:


the TRUE birthday present is that fox and friends interview
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My Immortal
04/26/18 10:37:09 AM
#385:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
the TRUE birthday present is that fox and friends interview

Happy birthday! My gift to you is that I told the world that I knew my lawyer paid off a stripper.
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CaptainOfCrush
04/26/18 10:43:58 AM
#386:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/989474790820990981?s=21

Trump tells Fox and Friends that he decided to do an interview with them because it's Melania's birthday. Asked what he got her, he pauses and says, "Maybe I didn't get her so much. I got her a beautiful card."

Alt-right just splooged in their collective pants.
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Jakyl25
04/26/18 10:52:31 AM
#387:


https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/989479003718287362?s=21

President Donald Trump on Republicans and African-Americans: If you go back to the Civil War, "it was the Republicans that really did the thing."


You know, the thing
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Jakyl25
04/26/18 10:54:45 AM
#388:


These might be my faves

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/989480596962529281?s=21
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/989480770434723840?s=21

Trump says Fox News is "tough" on him, "but at least it's fair."

Trump rants about CNN panels that are biased against him.

Fox and Friends guy: I'm not your doctor, but I recommend you don't watch them.

Trump: "I don't watch them at all."

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HaRRicH
04/26/18 10:58:31 AM
#389:


Jakyl25 posted...
Im so sad they cut him off to change the subject right as he was going into ITS A FIX!!!


Me too.
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Mr Lasastryke
04/26/18 11:02:36 AM
#390:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/989479003718287362?s=21

President Donald Trump on Republicans and African-Americans: If you go back to the Civil War, "it was the Republicans that really did the thing."


You know, the thing


why does he so often sound like a dumb 13 year old kid at debate class?
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Ashethan
04/26/18 11:04:00 AM
#391:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/989479003718287362?s=21

President Donald Trump on Republicans and African-Americans: If you go back to the Civil War, "it was the Republicans that really did the thing."


You know, the thing


One thing I really don't get:

How Republicans in one hand can say "Democrats were the slave owners, and south!"

Then when Democrats are like "Hey, you know what? Let's take those confederate statues down."

They scream "OUR HERITAGE!"

It's like they don't realize that Democrat today isn't the same as Democrat 150 years ago. But then DO realize it, and celebrate those Democrats they demonize for simply being CALLED Democrats. The same people they revere any other time.
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Jakyl25
04/26/18 11:05:10 AM
#392:


I love how his explanation of why Cohen is pleading the 5th is hes got businesses.
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SupremeZero
04/26/18 11:09:03 AM
#393:


Ashethan posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/989479003718287362?s=21

President Donald Trump on Republicans and African-Americans: If you go back to the Civil War, "it was the Republicans that really did the thing."


You know, the thing


One thing I really don't get:

How Republicans in one hand can say "Democrats were the slave owners, and south!"

Then when Democrats are like "Hey, you know what? Let's take those confederate statues down."

They scream "OUR HERITAGE!"

It's like they don't realize that Democrat today isn't the same as Democrat 150 years ago. But then DO realize it, and celebrate those Democrats they demonize for simply being CALLED Democrats. The same people they revere any other time.

Have you met them.
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Mega Mana
04/26/18 11:19:16 AM
#394:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
the TRUE birthday present is that fox and friends interview


I wouldn't be surprised if she asked for this knowing just how bad it would be. Donald completely destroying himself with his own words in front of his biggest supporters unfiltered? I'm sure it was a better present than flowers and a card.
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Jakyl25
04/26/18 11:26:39 AM
#395:


https://twitter.com/thehill/status/989483493028659201?s=21

#BREAKING: Trump admits Cohen represented him in Stormy Daniels deal after claiming he had no knowledge of it hill.cm/4B0oYlS


You know, he said so much other nonsense that it completely evaded me that him admitting this was a self-own
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Corrik
04/26/18 11:27:28 AM
#396:


Ashethan posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/989479003718287362?s=21

President Donald Trump on Republicans and African-Americans: If you go back to the Civil War, "it was the Republicans that really did the thing."


You know, the thing


One thing I really don't get:

How Republicans in one hand can say "Democrats were the slave owners, and south!"

Then when Democrats are like "Hey, you know what? Let's take those confederate statues down."

They scream "OUR HERITAGE!"

It's like they don't realize that Democrat today isn't the same as Democrat 150 years ago. But then DO realize it, and celebrate those Democrats they demonize for simply being CALLED Democrats. The same people they revere any other time.

While you are correct, regional heritage doesn't necessarily equate political heritage.

However, that is a good example of how in a 100 years the political parties could be so different that they flip again.
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HaRRicH
04/26/18 11:35:40 AM
#397:


4/26/2018
TWITTER - Brian Schwartz (CNBC)

I got a hold of Michael Cohen over the phone. At first he said he would have to call me back and then I asked him what's his reaction to the Trump interview on Fox & Friends. Cohen said "Did you hear what I said to you? Im on the other line with my lawyers." He then hung up.

https://twitter.com/schwartzbCNBC/status/989488814090539008?s=20

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Jakyl25
04/26/18 11:38:51 AM
#398:


https://twitter.com/michaelavenatti/status/989487281793839104?s=21

Thank you @foxandfriends for having Mr. Trump on this morning to discuss Michael Cohen and our case. Very informative.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/26/18 12:01:22 PM
#399:


couple twitter comments that caught my eye:

trump trashed Cohen by saying he is a "businessman who does some legal work." LOL


Thats also what the FBI has been trying to prove this whole time. So this admission pretty much shoots down the attorney client privilege argument sense Trump is publicly admitting Cohen is a businessman first.

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Jakyl25
04/26/18 12:03:00 PM
#400:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
couple twitter comments that caught my eye:

trump trashed Cohen by saying he is a "businessman who does some legal work." LOL


Thats also what the FBI has been trying to prove this whole time. So this admission pretty much shoots down the attorney client privilege argument sense Trump is publicly admitting Cohen is a businessman first.


They are literally already on it

https://thinkprogress.org/trumps-disastrous-fox-friends-interview-already-being-used-against-him-in-federal-court-428047f8bdb5/

The United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York submitted a letter to the federal judge which quotes Trumps Fox & Friends interview, noting that it supports their position. The government specifically cited Trumps assertion that Cohen handled a tiny, tiny little fraction of his overall legal work.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/26/18 12:06:36 PM
#401:


Jakyl25 posted...
They are literally already on it

https://thinkprogress.org/trumps-disastrous-fox-friends-interview-already-being-used-against-him-in-federal-court-428047f8bdb5/

The United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York submitted a letter to the federal judge which quotes Trumps Fox & Friends interview, noting that it supports their position. The government specifically cited Trumps assertion that Cohen handled a tiny, tiny little fraction of his overall legal work.



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