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TheGrindery
03/12/18 11:54:35 PM
#254:


Zodd3224 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
"Its like the hot cam twitch girl becoming the worlds most famous twitch streamer even though she hates video games.

You can see why that would piss off everyone who streams or watches streams cause of their love of games."

This is also a ridiculous thing to be upset over.


Doesn't stop the same nerds who bitch about from playing dumb when it comes to this subject


Hot girls appropriating our nerdy vidya games, lmao. Good lord, it never ends... everything triggers everybody.

And it's the only situation where you wouldn't expect it. You'd think they'd say fuck it since their desperate asses get to watch a hot chick at the same time. It also showed that gaming was moving forward and the stigma was waning.

They still decided to get pissed...and then have the nerve to act like their loneliness is an injustice.
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Kaname_Madoka
03/13/18 12:17:05 AM
#255:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
So are you saying that musicians should be able to steal each other's music without being called out for it?

this is genuinely a belief I hold tbqh

I don't like the idea that you can steal creativity
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TES_Nut
03/13/18 12:25:04 AM
#256:


Says someone called sensei.
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ThanksUglyGod
03/13/18 12:28:18 AM
#257:


Am I too late to hop on the "Bruno Wars" train?
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Jswift254
03/13/18 12:40:23 AM
#258:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
The main question about appropriation is whether Bruno Mars understands and appreciates black or African American culture.

He does actually
When you say black music," Mars begins, "understand that you are talking about rock, jazz, R&B, reggae, funk, doo-wop, hip-hop, and Motown. Black people created it all. Being Puerto Rican, even salsa music stems back to the Motherland [Africa]. So, in my world, black music means everything. Its what gives America its swag.
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I4NRulez
03/13/18 12:43:16 AM
#259:


I'm black and i love bruno mars.

Instead of attacking Bruno Mars, we should be attacking Viacom for how negatively they portray black people across all their networks
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Bishop9800
03/13/18 12:44:55 AM
#260:


I4NRulez posted...
I'm black and i love bruno mars.

Instead of attacking Bruno Mars, we should be attacking Viacom for how negatively they portray black people across all their networks

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KingCrabCake
03/13/18 12:45:41 AM
#261:


Bishop9800 posted...
I4NRulez posted...
I'm black and i love bruno mars.

Instead of attacking Bruno Mars, we should be attacking Viacom for how negatively they portray black people across all their networks

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TheGrindery
03/13/18 12:46:07 AM
#262:


KingCrabCake posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
I4NRulez posted...
I'm black and i love bruno mars.

Instead of attacking Bruno Mars, we should be attacking Viacom for how negatively they portray black people across all their networks
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robellr13
03/13/18 12:50:27 AM
#263:


TheGrindery posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
I4NRulez posted...
I'm black and i love bruno mars.

Instead of attacking Bruno Mars, we should be attacking Viacom for how negatively they portray black people across all their networks


Seeing white people quote that is hilarious lol
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Bishop9800
03/13/18 12:50:58 AM
#264:


robellr13 posted...

Seeing white people quote that is hilarious lol


Im not white
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Zodd3224
03/13/18 12:52:52 AM
#265:


Bishop9800 posted...
robellr13 posted...

Seeing white people quote that is hilarious lol


Im not white


LoL, OMG I said that too but it didnt validate me one bit!
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TheGrindery
03/13/18 12:53:04 AM
#266:


Bishop9800 posted...
robellr13 posted...

Seeing white people quote that is hilarious lol


Im not white

He means me. From what I hear, humanity originated in northern Africa. Looks like we all own everything. Nice, right? Lol
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robellr13
03/13/18 12:56:16 AM
#267:


Bishop9800 posted...
robellr13 posted...

Seeing white people quote that is hilarious lol


Im not white


Bruh I wasnt talking about you. I said quote
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robellr13
03/13/18 12:56:35 AM
#268:


TheGrindery posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
robellr13 posted...

Seeing white people quote that is hilarious lol


Im not white

He means me. From what I hear, humanity originated in northern Africa. Looks like we all own everything. Nice, right? Lol


Youre a clown lol.
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Kim Kusanagi
03/13/18 12:57:22 AM
#269:


Bruno wars
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Patchwork
03/13/18 12:58:24 AM
#270:


Imagine being so "woke" that you're mad at Bruno Mars..

Get all the way the fuck out.
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thanosibe
03/13/18 1:02:57 AM
#271:


robellr13 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
I4NRulez posted...
I'm black and i love bruno mars.

Instead of attacking Bruno Mars, we should be attacking Viacom for how negatively they portray black people across all their networks


Seeing white people quote that is hilarious lol
But seeing shit posters despite their skin color quoting this is even more hilarious.
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TheGrindery
03/13/18 1:12:08 AM
#272:


robellr13 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
robellr13 posted...

Seeing white people quote that is hilarious lol


Im not white

He means me. From what I hear, humanity originated in northern Africa. Looks like we all own everything. Nice, right? Lol


Youre a clown lol.

I'm correct if science is accurate.
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robellr13
03/13/18 1:16:37 AM
#274:


thanosibe posted...
robellr13 posted...
TheGrindery posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
I4NRulez posted...
I'm black and i love bruno mars.

Instead of attacking Bruno Mars, we should be attacking Viacom for how negatively they portray black people across all their networks


Seeing white people quote that is hilarious lol
But seeing shit posters despite their skin color quoting this is even more hilarious.


Not really lol you tried tho.
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InYourWalls1
03/13/18 1:25:58 AM
#275:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
this is genuinely a belief I hold tbqh

I don't like the idea that you can steal creativity


Yeah, it's a pretty common thread in music generally, people always borrow and reinterpret, and it can lead to powerful things, even African American gospel music and what came out of it represents a synthesis of cultures:

http://www.willieruff.com/linesinging.html
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gamepimp12
03/13/18 3:11:56 AM
#276:


TheGrindery posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
CE still cant have a decent conversation about cultural appropriation

Granted a lot of sjw use it incorrectly too.

CA isnt inherently a bad thing its just an inevitable thing that happens when different cultures interact.

In cases specifically with music what tends to happen is white or white passing people tend to be more popular in the main culture for doing a sub cultures music then anyone in the actual subculture.

Typically they dont even have a real passion or knowledge for the sub cultures music or at least its lessor compared to others in that genre of music.

So you have an outside using a sub cultures music for their own gain without caring anything about the music, while people who do care have to sit in their shadow.

In video game terms

Its like the hot cam twitch girl becoming the worlds most famous twitch streamer even though she hates video games.

You can see why that would piss off everyone who streams or watches streams cause of their love of games.

In Brunos case hes not guilty of that, hes likely part black and his music is mainly written by one of the biggest urban writers in the world right now, not to mention hes regularly spoken about his love towards the music

Your complaint doesn't come from your target, though. His fans decide whether or not he's more successful than the other artists that you would rather see in the limelight. He just does what he enjoys. If you don't enjoy what you're doing, it shows through even if you don't want it to.

Go off on the fans. Oh wait...one person is much easier to target.


Its a two pronged issue.

On one hand its the fans subtle racism showing, preferring a white/ white passing artist over the miniority artists.

A prime example of that is Macklemore, something he himself is very aware of.
(I dont like rap but I love Macklemore/ Eminem they talk about real life stuff)

Then its artist like tori kelly and logic who while black get a bit of a push because they look white.

On the other its many artist thats you can argue take advantage of their role as an outsider to find a position musically they can succeed in. Like you rap not because you love rap you might just like it and think its a cool thing to make money off of our whatever.

A good example of this is someone like iggy, Vanilla ice, Post Malone (Not to say they are for sure just some of the people most in questions)

Its annoying because they actively take spots from a member of a cultural group simply because of their race.
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gamepimp12
03/13/18 3:19:39 AM
#277:


27_Sandman_40 posted...
Can they please fucking concentrate their complaints on Eminem and Post Malone who are actually helping to destroy the fucking genre


Em actually loved hip hop and is extremely knowledgeable about it. Hes just washed up

They already got post Malone out of here the second he said hip hop didnt have depth. Its basically white people holding him up now.

People like the Bruno mars argument because most of his music either comes straight from the new jack era or the Motown era, two classic but currently underused sounds in urban music (which is probably the reason all his music sounds like you heard it before)
Because those sounds arent used right now its either sounds he loves or a calculated move

And because his racical ambiguity, success and the fact no one listens to his interviews
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Re-iNcarnated
03/13/18 7:32:17 AM
#279:


'Murrica!
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Lordgold666
03/13/18 7:33:27 AM
#280:


Culture vulture?

Thats a new one lol
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NonDairyMiltank
03/13/18 7:42:12 AM
#281:


i'm black and gotta say if a music artist of any race is makin great hits with black originated tunes, wtf you hatin on him for?

he's doing the genres justice ffs...
he can culturally appropriate all over my history if he's doin a good fuckin job

and Bruno Mars is
only salty haters say he ain't cause they jealous af of his success
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Twin3Turbo
03/13/18 7:46:25 AM
#282:


gamepimp12 posted...

People like the Bruno mars argument because most of his music either comes straight from the new jack era or the Motown era, two classic but currently underused sounds in urban music (which is probably the reason all his music sounds like you heard it before)
Because those sounds arent used right now its either sounds he loves or a calculated move

This is why I like Bruno. His music is the closest sounding to older R&B as it gets in the current mainstream landscape. Couple that with the fact that he actually sings on his records, Id say hes better than at least 95% of so called R&B artists today easily.
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gamepimp12
03/13/18 1:51:20 PM
#283:


Lordgold666 posted...
Culture vulture?

Thats a new one lol

Thats at least 10 years old lol
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ImTheMacheteGuy
03/13/18 2:01:15 PM
#284:


gamepimp12 posted...
Lordgold666 posted...
Culture vulture?

Thats a new one lol

That?s at least 10 years old lol


Switch the words and goes all the way back to Donkey Kong Country.
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JlM
03/13/18 3:42:04 PM
#285:


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s0nicfan
03/13/18 3:42:53 PM
#286:


27_Sandman_40 posted...
Em actually loved hip hop and is extremely knowledgeable about it. Hes just washed up


Hes paying no respect to the people that allowed him to thrive in the genre. Hes making shitty pop albums, featuring zero hip-hop artists, featuring tons of white pop singers, classic rock beats - and has the nerve to label it as a hip-hop album. If he called it a pop album like he should have, Id have no problem with it, but this is one of the the most influential people in hip-hop. He shouldnt get a fucking pass for manipulating the genre to better suit white people.

Same with Post Malone. Theyre shifting the genre and attempting to make it theirs. Its fucking disgusting. And he isnt done either, he was just featured on Migoss album.


You realize you sound like a crazy person, right?
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s0nicfan
03/13/18 3:52:57 PM
#288:


27_Sandman_40 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
27_Sandman_40 posted...
Em actually loved hip hop and is extremely knowledgeable about it. Hes just washed up


Hes paying no respect to the people that allowed him to thrive in the genre. Hes making shitty pop albums, featuring zero hip-hop artists, featuring tons of white pop singers, classic rock beats - and has the nerve to label it as a hip-hop album. If he called it a pop album like he should have, Id have no problem with it, but this is one of the the most influential people in hip-hop. He shouldnt get a fucking pass for manipulating the genre to better suit white people.

Same with Post Malone. Theyre shifting the genre and attempting to make it theirs. Its fucking disgusting. And he isnt done either, he was just featured on Migoss album.


You realize you sound like a crazy person, right?


Lol how so?


I mean outside of the fact that you're proving exactly what I said a few pages back that people who complain about cultural appropriation just want to use it like a weapon to get a piece of someone else's success (why does it matter if he uses his fame to boost white or black artists???), but you're also acting like a "genre" can be manipulated which is a nonsense statement.
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Balrog0
03/13/18 4:16:05 PM
#290:


bruno mars is teddy riley jr
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Twin3Turbo
03/13/18 4:30:03 PM
#291:


s0nicfan posted...
but you're also acting like a "genre" can be manipulated which is a nonsense statement.

Media can indeed be manipulated to suit a particular audience and it happens all the time.
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OobyDooby
03/13/18 5:21:41 PM
#292:


JlM posted...
1uHhCg8


You should have made a new topic for this no one is going to see it buried here
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P4wn4g3
03/13/18 5:43:33 PM
#294:


OobyDooby posted...
JlM posted...
1uHhCg8


You should have made a new topic for this no one is going to see it buried here

I didn't but this is amazing
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Funbazooka
03/13/18 5:50:20 PM
#295:


No one talks about genres being "manipulated" unless they're trying to put a negative spin on someone.
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The Admiral
03/13/18 5:51:06 PM
#296:


JlM posted...
1uHhCg8


Thats amazing
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Zodd3224
03/13/18 5:55:01 PM
#297:


The Admiral posted...
JlM posted...
1uHhCg8


Thats amazing

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cjsdowg
03/13/18 6:04:21 PM
#298:


No one cares about this women. She complains about MJ.
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Bishop9800
03/13/18 6:14:52 PM
#299:


JlM posted...
1uHhCg8


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Ruvan22
03/13/18 6:17:24 PM
#300:


The Admiral posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/entertainment/bruno-mars-cultural-appropriation-reaction-trnd/index.html

Bruno Mars found himself caught in a heated debate about cultural appropriation over the weekend after an activist accused the "24K Magic" star of being a culture vulture profiting off of traditionally black music.

"Cultural appropriation," according to the Cambridge Dictionary, is "the act of taking or using things from a culture that is not your own, especially without showing that you understand or respect this culture."

Bruno Mars' mother is Filipina and his father is Puerto Rican and Jewish
But the Grammy-winning star is known for blending elements of funk, soul, R&B, reggae and hip-hop in his music --- genres that are historically and traditionally African-American.

Here's the two-minute video that started it all:

this is why i hate bruno mars @seren_sensei says it all pic.twitter.com/CRLktsA2ea
hannie (@hannahmburrell) March 9, 2018


"Bruno Mars 100% is a cultural appropriator. He is not black, at all, and he plays up his racial ambiguity to cross genres," writer and activist Seren Sensei said in a clip for "The Grapevine," a web series that explores African-American issues.

"What Bruno Mars does, is he takes pre-existing work and he just completely, word-for-word recreates it, extrapolates it," she added. "He does not create it, he does not improve upon it, he does not make it better. He's a karaoke singer, he's a wedding singer, he's the person you hire to do Michael Jackson and Prince covers. Yet Bruno Mars has an Album of the Year Grammy and Prince never won an Album of the Year Grammy."


Another good example of the left destroying itself.

EDIT: *Mars


How exactly do these few internet posters represent the entire "left"?
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cjsdowg
03/13/18 6:19:13 PM
#301:


Ruvan22 posted...


How exactly do these few internet posters represent the entire "left"?


To add to that places that are key to an African-American Demo. Are defending him.
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RickyTheBAWSE
03/13/18 6:28:41 PM
#302:


Bruno Mars is being heavily defended by Black people.

those random internet whiners, including the TC, represent the lowest common denominator in society. they sit on the internet all day and stir shit up.

some of these lame ass, self absorbed clowns even have blogs/channels to where they complain about people they've never met with strawman points.

stop taking the riff raff seriously.
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Bishop9800
03/13/18 7:26:52 PM
#303:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Bruno Mars is being heavily defended by Black people.

those random internet whiners, including the TC, represent the lowest common denominator in society. they sit on the internet all day and stir shit up.

some of these lame ass, self absorbed clowns even have blogs/channels to where they complain about people they've never met with strawman points.

stop taking Addy seriously.


Fixxed that for you
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