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Ammonitida
03/12/18 1:22:34 PM
#104:


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Super Freak by Rick James


WOW. The main beat is identical.

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s0nicfan
03/12/18 1:23:11 PM
#105:


Nobody who seriously complains about Cultural Appropriation is worried about appreciation or acknowledging influences. What they want is money. A paycheck, or free publicity, or some sort of "finder's fee". They want a piece of his success, and the best way to do that is to claim theft. Since they can't claim he straight up stole a tune, the next best thing is to claim he "stole" someone else's genre without paying literal dues for its use. The crux is always "I should be making money off of his success"

These conversations also stop the moment you start to extrapolate what this policy would look like on a societal scale. The moment appropriation goes from "minority is taken advantage of" to "all people can't appropriate things their people didn't invent" the whole discussion dies, because everyone realizes how crazy it is.
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darkjedilink
03/12/18 1:24:20 PM
#106:


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If you speak English or wear jeans, you're guilty of cultural appropriation.

I see that people are still pissed off that Bruno Mars won a few Grammy awards, without realizing that fact that he's part black. His Puerto Rican roots probably crossed with African ancestry. He's just more mixed than anything else.

It's 2018 and I still see some people want a path to segregation. Talk about a regressive bunch.

Segregation has been a stated goal for BLM for years.
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_Rinku_
03/12/18 1:25:41 PM
#107:


Man, I can't stand SJWs who whine about "cultural appropriation." 99% of the time, it's a completely imagined offense.

On the topic of Bruno Mars copying other sounds: he kind of does. I legit think "Locked Out of Heaven" is going to be a The Police song every time I hear it before the vocals kick in. I don't really think that's a problem though.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
03/12/18 1:47:21 PM
#108:


s0nicfan posted...
What they want is money. A paycheck, or free publicity, or some sort of "finder's fee". They want a piece of his success, and the best way to do that is to claim theft.

Really? Did an SJW sue Bruno Mars for stealing from black culture?
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hockeybub89
03/12/18 1:52:00 PM
#109:


The Admiral posted...
Another good example of the left destroying itself

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s0nicfan
03/12/18 2:25:46 PM
#110:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
s0nicfan posted...
What they want is money. A paycheck, or free publicity, or some sort of "finder's fee". They want a piece of his success, and the best way to do that is to claim theft.

Really? Did an SJW sue Bruno Mars for stealing from black culture?


Are people demanding that he use his money and fame to prop up other lesser known artists based on nothing other than the fact that he's operating in their genre?
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Giant_Aspirin
03/12/18 2:27:14 PM
#111:


those SJWs are idiots. and in other breaking news, water is wet and the sun is hot.
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FLUFFYGERM
03/12/18 2:27:59 PM
#112:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
those SJWs are idiots. and in other breaking news, water is wet and the sun is hot.


Are you worried about how much more prevalent they are becoming on your side?
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Ammonitida
03/12/18 2:29:41 PM
#113:


s0nicfan posted...
Nobody who seriously complains about Cultural Appropriation is worried about appreciation or acknowledging influences. What they want is money. A paycheck, or free publicity, or some sort of "finder's fee". They want a piece of his success, and the best way to do that is to claim theft. Since they can't claim he straight up stole a tune, the next best thing is to claim he "stole" someone else's genre without paying literal dues for its use. The crux is always "I should be making money off of his success"

These conversations also stop the moment you start to extrapolate what this policy would look like on a societal scale. The moment appropriation goes from "minority is taken advantage of" to "all people can't appropriate things their people didn't invent" the whole discussion dies, because everyone realizes how crazy it is.


Nah. The people who complain about this petty crap almost never invented or created any of the stuff they claim was appropriated -- ergo, they would have no legal standing in a copyright suit. They claim credit purely based on "race" (and are often wrong about the race of the originator too, especially when it comes to music). A good chunk of these bigots also believe that "white people" are incapable of culture and must steal it from other "superior" races.
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hockeybub89
03/12/18 2:29:51 PM
#114:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
those SJWs are idiots. and in other breaking news, water is wet and the sun is hot.


Are you worried about how much more prevalent they are becoming on your side?

Are you worried about how prevalent idiots are in the Republican party? You know, movers and shakers, not bloggers posting bullshit on the interwebs.
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littlebro07
03/12/18 2:30:01 PM
#115:


The Admiral posted...
Bruno Mars' mother is Filipina and his father is Puerto Rican and Jewish


Huh. I always thought he was at least half black.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
03/12/18 2:30:55 PM
#116:


s0nicfan posted...
Are people demanding that he use his money and fame to prop up other lesser known artists based on nothing other than the fact that he's operating in their genre?

You mean like customer demand? WHat's wrong with the free market?
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FLUFFYGERM
03/12/18 2:31:18 PM
#117:


Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Are people demanding that he use his money and fame to prop up other lesser known artists based on nothing other than the fact that he's operating in their genre?

You mean like customer demand? WHat's wrong with the free market?


Why don't you tell us, seeing as you lot are always badmouthing the free market
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hockeybub89
03/12/18 2:33:11 PM
#118:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Are people demanding that he use his money and fame to prop up other lesser known artists based on nothing other than the fact that he's operating in their genre?

You mean like customer demand? WHat's wrong with the free market?


Why don't you tell us, seeing as you lot are always badmouthing the free market

You've experienced the free market as much as a vegan has never eaten GMOs.
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FLUFFYGERM
03/12/18 2:33:54 PM
#119:


hockeybub saying something he thinks is witty, but is ultimately nonsensical and vacuous? Must be a day that ends in y.
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dave_is_slick
03/12/18 2:38:21 PM
#120:


Where were you when the Bruno Wars started?
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hockeybub89
03/12/18 2:39:21 PM
#121:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
hockeybub saying something he thinks is witty, but is ultimately nonsensical and vacuous? Must be a day that ends in y.

And you pretend to be intelligent while constantly crying about SJWs and communism causing our problems and aggressively asserting everything you say is correct. Who is really the loser here?
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Ammonitida
03/12/18 2:41:52 PM
#122:


Wow, Shaun King being reasonable here.

"I just want to be practical here. Are people saying that Bruno Mars shouldn't sing? Or that when he sings he needs to somehow whiten that s--- up and sound more like Rod Stewart," "Black Lives Matter" activist and writer Shaun King tweeted. "I'm dead serious. What type of music is this man "allowed" to do?"
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Cal12
03/12/18 2:41:57 PM
#123:


Creating this narrative to express being pissed off that he won album of the year and Prince never did seems super petty.
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The Admiral
03/12/18 2:42:54 PM
#124:


Ammonitida posted...
Wow, Shaun King being reasonable here.

"I just want to be practical here. Are people saying that Bruno Mars shouldn't sing? Or that when he sings he needs to somehow whiten that s--- up and sound more like Rod Stewart," "Black Lives Matter" activist and writer Shaun King tweeted. "I'm dead serious. What type of music is this man "allowed" to do?"


Shaun King is certainly not going to put his neck out there attacking a non-black guy who makes money attaching himself to black culture.
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CableZL
03/12/18 2:44:39 PM
#125:


This is stupid. Bruno Mars is awesome. I don't think he ever claimed to be anything other than whatever his heritage is.

Bobby Caldwell sang What You Won't Do for Love with so much soul that many people didn't know he was white AT ALL. I'm fine with that, and I'm fine with whatever Bruno Mars has put out in recent years. He has legit bangers that I've listened to repeatedly.

People need to stop trying to pigeon hole a race into a certain kind of music. It's stupid.
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Zodd3224
03/12/18 2:47:30 PM
#126:


I dont actually know who Bruno Mars is tbh
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CableZL
03/12/18 2:49:54 PM
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Zodd3224
03/12/18 2:51:07 PM
#128:


Ah. I've heard some of that before. Not my kind of music.
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The Admiral
03/12/18 2:51:16 PM
#129:


CableZL posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
I dont actually know who Bruno Mars is tbh


Some of his most popular songs:

24K Magic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqyT8IEBkvY" data-time="


That's What I like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMivT7MJ41M" data-time="


Just The Way You Are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjhCEhWiKXk" data-time="


Even though those songs are better, this is probably the one I've heard get the most radio play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekzHIouo8Q4" data-time="

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SwordMaster13X
03/12/18 2:52:00 PM
#130:


littlebro07 posted...
The Admiral posted...
Bruno Mars' mother is Filipina and his father is Puerto Rican and Jewish


Huh. I always thought he was at least half black.


Me too. I always thought he was Asian mixed with black.

I think his music is corny as hell by the way.
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Sativa_Rose
03/12/18 2:52:07 PM
#131:


I saw Bruno Mars perform live last year. My mom really wanted to go lol <_<

He was good. I'm not a huge fan of his or anything, but he was a good performer. He was also actually singing, unlike this chick who performed before him who was obviously lip syncing. It was so bad.
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CableZL
03/12/18 2:53:37 PM
#132:


The Admiral posted...
CableZL posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
I dont actually know who Bruno Mars is tbh


Some of his most popular songs:

24K Magic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqyT8IEBkvY" data-time="


That's What I like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMivT7MJ41M" data-time="


Just The Way You Are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjhCEhWiKXk" data-time="


Even though those songs are better, this is probably the one I've heard get the most radio play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekzHIouo8Q4" data-time="

"Playback paused because your account is being used in another location"

uhhh... time to investigate
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thronedfire2
03/12/18 2:54:14 PM
#133:


Begun, the Bruno Wars have
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littlebro07
03/12/18 2:55:25 PM
#134:


The Admiral posted...
CableZL posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
I dont actually know who Bruno Mars is tbh


Some of his most popular songs:

24K Magic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqyT8IEBkvY" data-time="


That's What I like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMivT7MJ41M" data-time="


Just The Way You Are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjhCEhWiKXk" data-time="


Even though those songs are better, this is probably the one I've heard get the most radio play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekzHIouo8Q4" data-time="


All I've heard from in in the past two months or so is that song with Cardi B and it makes me want to punt kittens
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dave_is_slick
03/12/18 2:56:20 PM
#135:


littlebro07 posted...
The Admiral posted...
CableZL posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
I dont actually know who Bruno Mars is tbh


Some of his most popular songs:

24K Magic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqyT8IEBkvY" data-time="


That's What I like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMivT7MJ41M" data-time="


Just The Way You Are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjhCEhWiKXk" data-time="


Even though those songs are better, this is probably the one I've heard get the most radio play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekzHIouo8Q4" data-time="


All I've heard from in in the past two months or so is that song with Cardi B and it makes me want to punt kittens

Shit's a banger tgough!
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FrisbeeDude
03/12/18 3:03:45 PM
#136:


The general frustration comes from people to preferring to consume black culture through people who aren't black.
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Sativa_Rose
03/12/18 3:04:59 PM
#137:


FrisbeeDude posted...
The general frustration comes from people to preferring to consume black culture through people who aren't black.


They can't have it both ways. They want to be able to indulge in whatever they want and be free to enjoy everything America has to offer, but then with certain things they want to say "that's not yours!!!!" and stop others from enjoying it.

It's stupid and wrong.
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Zodd3224
03/12/18 3:05:14 PM
#138:


FrisbeeDude posted...
The general frustration comes from people to preferring to consume black culture through people who aren't black.


Is it okay that I listen to metal bands with black and hispanic members or are they appropriating too?
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CaptainCrunch
03/12/18 3:09:32 PM
#139:


People have whining about this shit since Elvis. Nothing wrong with a person profiting off a style of music they didn't create, so long as it isn't blatantly stealing.
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FLUFFYGERM
03/12/18 3:09:58 PM
#140:


hockeybub89 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
hockeybub saying something he thinks is witty, but is ultimately nonsensical and vacuous? Must be a day that ends in y.

And you pretend to be intelligent while constantly crying about SJWs and communism causing our problems and aggressively asserting everything you say is correct. Who is really the loser here?


you lol
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HellsingOrg
03/12/18 3:11:30 PM
#141:


LOL Eminem is lucky he got famous before this shit
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CableZL
03/12/18 3:14:10 PM
#142:


If you got a problem with Bruno Mars, challenge him to a dancing contest and win. Then you're still not entitled to say what kind of music he's allowed to do.

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Funbazooka
03/12/18 3:23:23 PM
#143:


FrisbeeDude posted...
The general frustration comes from people to preferring to consume black culture through people who aren't black.

In other words, when you get right down to it, you prefer a less obvious form of racial segregation.

Instead of who can use which water fountains it's about who can consume or play certain music.
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BlueBoy675
03/12/18 3:26:07 PM
#144:


The rumor come out. Does Bruno Mars is gay?
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3khc
03/12/18 3:28:39 PM
#145:


How are they SJWs? I don't see justice here.
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iPhone_7
03/12/18 3:33:55 PM
#146:


Us SJWs should come togethor and agree that what matters first and foremost is that the Grammy winner is not white. Amirite guys? -I mean guys/girls/otherkin.

Thats where the line should be drawn. Martin Luther King would be proud. #Check Your Privilege White Devils
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FrisbeeDude
03/12/18 3:40:00 PM
#147:


Zodd3224 posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
The general frustration comes from people to preferring to consume black culture through people who aren't black.


Is it okay that I listen to metal bands with black and hispanic members or are they appropriating too?


This is why we can't have nice things
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P4wn4g3
03/12/18 3:40:47 PM
#148:


Makes sense that SJWs would get angry about their shitty pop music. Maybe they can expand their tastes beyond the publisher's pick of the day already rather than projecting.

Also this argument is old. In recent history the most notable big name was Elvis clearly taking from the black Soul culture and integrating it into country to make Rock. It's rather funny how many recent great artists and musical breakthroughs are not white American at all.

So even if Bruno Mars does it, who cares? Don't support an obvious corporate puppet if you're so salty.
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Twin3Turbo
03/12/18 3:41:37 PM
#149:


FrisbeeDude posted...
The general frustration comes from people to preferring to consume black culture through people who aren't black.

Actually I'd say it's more to do with the thought that with mainstream America there is (often times) a certain hesitancy or resistance to something when there is a black person attached to it, yet if a non-black person comes in and does the same thing, then all of a sudden it's no issue.

Probably an immediate and fairly recent example is people not even giving GTA San Andreas a chance purely because the main character is black, by their own admission. We just had a topic about this a few weeks ago where topics/posts from normal message boards were provideda at the time of the games release where there was no shortage of people that stated this, and people in that very gamefaqs topic said they thought it was a justifiable reason.

Or another example, a pornstar can do pretty much anything under the sun in regards to her career but as soon as she bangs a black guy, thats the where the line is drawn. That's when she all of a sudden can't command as much money for scenes and she loses viewership, etc.

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Prestoff
03/12/18 3:41:55 PM
#150:


Most people complaining about cultural appropriation is not even about showing respect to a culture, but rather it's about money. They want to be compensated for it, funny that they don't ask for it when the music is not successful, but only the ones that get mainstream appeal.
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FrisbeeDude
03/12/18 3:48:23 PM
#151:


It's funny, people seem to understand this when it comes to cam girls using twitch
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FLUFFYGERM
03/12/18 3:49:04 PM
#152:


but no, for real, who is FrisbeeDude's main? Draje? SArm?
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Kaname_Madoka
03/12/18 3:50:11 PM
#153:


FrisbeeDude posted...
It's funny, people seem to understand this when it comes to cam girls using twitch

Interesting point
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