Board 8 > Best games that are full reimaginations of another's story

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Nelson_Mandela 02/26/18 5:42:25 PM #1:	I think I may get better responses when I'm not asking people to bash the original. Basically, which remakes are the best ever?* Note: I am thinking of a soup-to-nuts remake, not merely a graphical enhancement or a port that fixes bugs and adds some extras. I want you to think of a game that takes the story/premise of an earlier title and completely changes how they tell that story, for the better. Examples include Metroid: Zero Mission, Super Castlevania IV, REmake, etc. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:896818511] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>I think I may get better responses when I'm not asking people to bash the original. Basically, which remakes are the best ever? *Note: I am thinking of a soup-to-nuts remake, not merely a graphical enhancement or a port that fixes bugs and adds some extras. I want you to think of a game that takes the story/premise of an earlier title and completely changes how they tell that story, for the better. Examples include Metroid: Zero Mission, Super Castlevania IV, REmake, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 02/26/18 5:43:22 PM #2:	Twin Snakes --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png https://imgur.com/xSIWjVK <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:896818569] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>Twin Snakes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackMageJawa 02/26/18 5:46:13 PM #3:	Ys: The Oath in Felghana I mean, all the Ys remakes are amazing, but OiF is the most drastic overhaul, given that the original was a side-scroller that almost nobody liked. --- The shattered stage is set and there's a role you must fulfil <cite>BlackMageJawa posted [p:896818730] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>Ys: The Oath in Felghana I mean, all the Ys remakes are amazing, but OiF is the most drastic overhaul, given that the original was a side-scroller that almost nobody liked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 02/26/18 5:52:03 PM #4:	Silent Hill: Shattered Memories I wouldn't say it's better than the original but it is damn good in its own right. --- To seal this town to the abyss, the mark of Samael. http://tinyurl.com/zqwzc9a - https://i.imgur.com/ecJSilM.png - https://i.imgur.com/WrowyEj.gif <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:896819073] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>Silent Hill: Shattered Memories I wouldn't say it's better than the original but it is damn good in its own right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SeabassDebeste 02/26/18 5:52:05 PM #5:	ocarina of time in many ways re-implements link to the past --- yet all sailors of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness <cite>SeabassDebeste posted [p:896819076] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>ocarina of time in many ways re-implements link to the past</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 02/26/18 6:09:50 PM #6:	Snake5555555555 posted... Silent Hill: Shattered Memories I wouldn't say it's better than the original but it is damn good in its own right. This is on my Wii list. Is this basically a Silent Hill 1 remake? --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:896820160] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote><cite>Snake5555555555 posted...</cite> <quote>Silent Hill: Shattered Memories I wouldn't say it's better than the original but it is damn good in its own right.</quote> This is on my Wii list. Is this basically a Silent Hill 1 remake?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 02/26/18 6:10:39 PM #7:	LeonhartFour posted... Twin Snakes I refuse to play a remake of an already perfect game! --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:896820201] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote><cite>LeonhartFour posted...</cite> <quote>Twin Snakes</quote> I refuse to play a remake of an already perfect game!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackMageJawa 02/26/18 6:19:23 PM #8:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Snake5555555555 posted... Silent Hill: Shattered Memories I wouldn't say it's better than the original but it is damn good in its own right. This is on my Wii list. Is this basically a Silent Hill 1 remake? I haven't played it yet either, but I want to. It's literally a retelling of Silent Hill- the whole game is framed as the player recounting the story of SH1 to a psychiatrist, so wherever it deviates from what happened in the original game, it's because you're telling/remembering it wrong. ~~Also, IIRC, it turns out that the person talking isn't Harry at all, but Heather/Cheryl, so she doesn't know exactly what her father did back then anyway~~. Gameplay-wise, it's rather more different. There's less (possibly no) combat, and most dangerous encounters are focused on running away. And the dark world is ice-themed rather than foggy. --- The shattered stage is set and there's a role you must fulfil <cite>BlackMageJawa posted [p:896820721] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Snake5555555555 posted...</cite> <quote>Silent Hill: Shattered Memories I wouldn't say it's better than the original but it is damn good in its own right.</quote> This is on my Wii list. Is this basically a Silent Hill 1 remake?</quote> I haven't played it yet either, but I want to. It's literally a retelling of Silent Hill- the whole game is framed as the player recounting the story of SH1 to a psychiatrist, so wherever it deviates from what happened in the original game, it's because you're telling/remembering it wrong. Also, IIRC, it turns out that the person talking isn't Harry at all, but Heather/Cheryl, so she doesn't know exactly what her father did back then anyway. Gameplay-wise, it's rather more different. There's less (possibly no) combat, and most dangerous encounters are focused on running away. And the dark world is ice-themed rather than foggy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 02/26/18 6:20:02 PM #9:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Snake5555555555 posted... Silent Hill: Shattered Memories I wouldn't say it's better than the original but it is damn good in its own right. This is on my Wii list. Is this basically a Silent Hill 1 remake? It's not so much a remake as it is a reimagining. The plot set-up is mostly the same and you'll visit a lot of the same locations and meet the same characters as the first but otherwise it feels like a completely different game. --- To seal this town to the abyss, the mark of Samael. http://tinyurl.com/zqwzc9a - https://i.imgur.com/ecJSilM.png - https://i.imgur.com/WrowyEj.gif <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:896820764] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Snake5555555555 posted...</cite> <quote>Silent Hill: Shattered Memories I wouldn't say it's better than the original but it is damn good in its own right.</quote> This is on my Wii list. Is this basically a Silent Hill 1 remake?</quote> It's not so much a remake as it is a reimagining. The plot set-up is mostly the same and you'll visit a lot of the same locations and meet the same characters as the first but otherwise it feels like a completely different game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 02/26/18 6:20:50 PM #10:	How about American McGee's Alice? --- "Reading would be your friend." ~Dave Meltzer <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:896820818] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>How about American McGee's Alice?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 02/26/18 6:35:21 PM #11:	Nelson_Mandela posted... LeonhartFour posted... Twin Snakes I refuse to play a remake of an already perfect game! good thing MGS1 isn't a perfect game then --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png https://imgur.com/xSIWjVK <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:896821738] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LeonhartFour posted...</cite> <quote>Twin Snakes</quote> I refuse to play a remake of an already perfect game!</quote> good thing MGS1 isn't a perfect game then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trdl23 02/26/18 6:38:56 PM #12:	Does Spec Ops: The Line count as a reimagination of Apocalypse Now? --- E come vivo? Vivo! <cite>trdl23 posted [p:896821973] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>Does Spec Ops: The Line count as a reimagination of Apocalypse Now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raka_Putra 02/26/18 7:18:55 PM #13:	Fate Grand Order for the Fate series in general, but most obviously to Fate/Stay Night with the first arc. --- Fuhlt nicht durch dich Sarastro Todesschmerzen, So bist du meine Tochter nimmermehr-- eeeeeeeeeeeeeeehr. <cite>Raka_Putra posted [p:896824358] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>Fate Grand Order for the Fate series in general, but most obviously to Fate/Stay Night with the first arc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 02/26/18 7:20:01 PM #14:	LeonhartFour posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... LeonhartFour posted... Twin Snakes I refuse to play a remake of an already perfect game! good thing MGS1 isn't a perfect game then Blocked --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:896824408] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote><cite>LeonhartFour posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LeonhartFour posted...</cite> <quote>Twin Snakes</quote> I refuse to play a remake of an already perfect game!</quote> good thing MGS1 isn't a perfect game then</quote> Blocked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 02/26/18 7:20:49 PM #15:	Enslaved: Journey to the West is a great reimagination of the Journey to the West legend. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:896824452] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>Enslaved: Journey to the West is a great reimagination of the Journey to the West legend.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OliviaTremor 02/26/18 7:22:19 PM #16:	Black Mesa Portal is a reimagining of that one game, they hired the same developer and everything Would Prince of Persia Sands of Time count? --- Notyou <cite>OliviaTremor posted [p:896824542] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>Black Mesa Portal is a reimagining of that one game, they hired the same developer and everything Would Prince of Persia Sands of Time count?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LOLIAmAnAlt 02/26/18 7:22:29 PM #17:	SMB2 That would be Super Mario Brothers 2 --- lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll <cite>LOLIAmAnAlt posted [p:896824552] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>SMB2 That would be Super Mario Brothers 2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tcaz2 02/26/18 7:23:10 PM #18:	Fire Emblem Echoes still applies to this <cite>tcaz2 posted [p:896824597] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>Fire Emblem Echoes still applies to this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 02/26/18 7:23:58 PM #19:	Celeste 2018 is on the level of Zero Mission in this category --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:896824648] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>Celeste 2018 is on the level of Zero Mission in this category</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mac Arrowny 02/26/18 7:25:50 PM #20:	MGS1 is essentially a remake of Metal Gear 2, so you could use that as an example. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>Mac Arrowny posted [p:896824772] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>MGS1 is essentially a remake of Metal Gear 2, so you could use that as an example.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 02/26/18 7:39:04 PM #21:	foolm0r0n posted... Celeste 2018 is on the level of Zero Mission in this category What's it a remake of? --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:896825591] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Celeste 2018 is on the level of Zero Mission in this category</quote> What's it a remake of?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnbobb 02/26/18 7:42:44 PM #22:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Enslaved: Journey to the West is a great reimagination of the Journey to the West legend. came to say this --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:896825796] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote>Enslaved: Journey to the West is a great reimagination of the Journey to the West legend.</quote> came to say this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeepsPraw 02/26/18 7:49:19 PM #23:	Nelson_Mandela posted... foolm0r0n posted... Celeste 2018 is on the level of Zero Mission in this category What's it a remake of? The Pico-8 version which was pretty much a flash game --- pepsi for tv-game <cite>DeepsPraw posted [p:896826183] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Celeste 2018 is on the level of Zero Mission in this category</quote> What's it a remake of?</quote> The Pico-8 version which was pretty much a flash game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 02/26/18 7:52:24 PM #24:	DeepsPraw posted... The Pico-8 version which was pretty much a flash game Which reminds me, Super Meat Boy also counts --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:896826384] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote><cite>DeepsPraw posted...</cite> <quote>The Pico-8 version which was pretty much a flash game</quote> Which reminds me, Super Meat Boy also counts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 02/26/18 9:20:34 PM #25:	Shattered Memories is the first thing I thought of. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png <cite>pjbasis posted [p:896832072] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>Shattered Memories is the first thing I thought of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OliviaTremor 02/26/18 11:43:24 PM #26:	DeepsPraw posted... Nelson_Mandela posted... foolm0r0n posted... Celeste 2018 is on the level of Zero Mission in this category What's it a remake of? The Pico-8 version which was pretty much a flash game Does that mean there's hope for Matt to remake An Untitled Story or Jumper? --- Notyou <cite>OliviaTremor posted [p:896840434] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote><cite>DeepsPraw posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Celeste 2018 is on the level of Zero Mission in this category</quote> What's it a remake of?</quote> The Pico-8 version which was pretty much a flash game</quote> Does that mean there's hope for Matt to remake An Untitled Story or Jumper?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 02/26/18 11:45:27 PM #27:	Celeste is pretty much a direct sequel to Jumper --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:896840551] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>Celeste is pretty much a direct sequel to Jumper</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeepsPraw 02/26/18 11:54:25 PM #28:	I played Celeste for a few hours, beat level 3, and I never need to play it again. It's not a bad game or anything, but I feel like I got everything I needed out of it. --- pepsi for tv-game <cite>DeepsPraw posted [p:896840959] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>I played Celeste for a few hours, beat level 3, and I never need to play it again. It's not a bad game or anything, but I feel like I got everything I needed out of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OliviaTremor 02/26/18 11:54:28 PM #29:	Awesome. On my to get list. Does the story connect at all (not that there was much in Jumper)? --- Notyou <cite>OliviaTremor posted [p:896840960] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>Awesome. On my to get list. Does the story connect at all (not that there was much in Jumper)?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 02/27/18 12:03:09 AM #30:	No I just mean gameplay wise it's pretty much a sequel DeepsPraw posted... I played Celeste for a few hours, beat level 3, and I never need to play it again. It's not a bad game or anything, but I feel like I got everything I needed out of it. The hotel? Yeah the rest of the game is just more of the same after that. It's still good but not like the first 3 levels. --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:896841347] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>No I just mean gameplay wise it's pretty much a sequel <cite>DeepsPraw posted...</cite> <quote>I played Celeste for a few hours, beat level 3, and I never need to play it again. It's not a bad game or anything, but I feel like I got everything I needed out of it.</quote> The hotel? Yeah the rest of the game is just more of the same after that. It's still good but not like the first 3 levels.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
banananor 02/27/18 12:12:01 AM #31:	Twin snakes is the devil --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. <cite>banananor posted [p:896841746] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>Twin snakes is the devil</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mac Arrowny 02/27/18 1:43:34 AM #32:	...eh? The hotel was the worst level in the game by a long shot. I can certainly understand why it'd make you quit. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>Mac Arrowny posted [p:896845087] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>...eh? The hotel was the worst level in the game by a long shot. I can certainly understand why it'd make you quit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 02/27/18 2:10:18 AM #33:	It was unique though. The rest of the game pretty much feels all the same after that, kinda drags. Oh I did forget about level 5, that one is pretty awesome (except for the god awful 3rd act). --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:896846061] in Best games... [t:76360718]...</cite> <quote>It was unique though. The rest of the game pretty much feels all the same after that, kinda drags. Oh I did forget about level 5, that one is pretty awesome (except for the god awful 3rd act).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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