Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 163: Generous 2A Fault

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Suprak the Stud
02/28/18 3:58:12 PM
#152:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/968944315883032577

Trump says Florida police should have taken away the Stoneman Douglas shooter's guns "whether they had the right or not."


This is what the GOP stands for now


This is just not understanding how policing or the Constitution works.

Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/968945787437797376

Trump ribs Toomey for not supporting a 21-year-old gun age limit "because you're afraid of the NRA."


Trumps big mouth destroying the NRA narrative is welcome


Legitimately curious how hardcore Trump enthusiasts are going to react to him turning on the NRA, even slightly. It might be one of the few things they have any true position on that isn't just "whatever Trump says is right".
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Suprak the Stud
02/28/18 3:58:46 PM
#153:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/968949929656946689

Trump says "I'm not even worried about 60 votes" on gun legislation because "it should be so easy."


Where have I heard this before...


I'm not even sure he has all the Democrat votes on gun legislation, honestly.
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 3:59:20 PM
#154:


https://twitter.com/ap_images/status/968938936973365255

Well they did warn us gay marriage was a slippery slope...
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KamikazePotato
02/28/18 4:02:37 PM
#155:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/ap_images/status/968938936973365255

Well they did warn us gay marriage was a slippery slope...

Some of the twitter comments are spot-on - it looks like something out of a cheesy horror movie that includes a cult that seems too unrealistic to be believable.
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Eddv
02/28/18 4:11:42 PM
#156:


What in the world...
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 4:13:34 PM
#157:


https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/968954417402834944

The Republican president of the United States, who was endorsed by the NRA: A lot of times by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures, I like taking the guns early.


I cant get enough of this
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Regaro
02/28/18 4:16:26 PM
#158:


This is actually amazing
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 4:16:33 PM
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Ashethan
02/28/18 4:17:28 PM
#160:


Trump: Take away their guns.

Republicans: So how about that Russia investigation? Anyway we could... expedite that? Cause we can put impeachment on the table tomorrow.
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KamikazePotato
02/28/18 4:28:06 PM
#161:


Biggest plot twist of 2018 so far
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banananor
02/28/18 4:32:30 PM
#162:


we'll see how people fall on this. in the end it's an authoritarian thing and consistent with 45's character

think about the travel ban, where he wanted to (paraphrasing) "shut everything down until we figure out what's going on"

some will be fine with a president they "trust"- aka looks like themselves- making command decisions like this
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 4:53:07 PM
#163:


Its also quite possible that they send Huckabee-Sanders out tomorrow to deny he ever said this
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HaRRicH
02/28/18 4:53:57 PM
#164:


On one hand, maaaaan it'd be cool to see a politician disregard such a donor who isn't for their citizens.

On the other hand, this outrageous talk is pushing out news about Gates, Manafort, and Kushner....there's a strategy being followed.
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Not_an_Owl
02/28/18 4:55:15 PM
#165:


Regaro posted...
This is actually amazing

Give it a week, he'll be back to... I can't really say "normal" because he has no normal, but at least back to not giving a shit about guns.
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Suprak the Stud
02/28/18 4:55:18 PM
#166:


Hope Hicks just resigned.
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 4:56:34 PM
#167:


Hope Hicks is resigning from the White House
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 4:56:53 PM
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Regaro
02/28/18 4:57:39 PM
#169:


Not_an_Owl posted...
Regaro posted...
This is actually amazing

Give it a week, he'll be back to... I can't really say "normal" because he has no normal, but at least back to not giving a shit about guns.

That's actually what makes it amazing
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 4:59:57 PM
#170:


Hope Hicks Part of my job is to tell lies is yet another Had this happened under Obama, holy shit... moment
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Peace___Frog
02/28/18 5:02:41 PM
#171:


Shit, i expected that in the coming month, but not today.

How many 'muccis is that?
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Suprak the Stud
02/28/18 5:05:15 PM
#172:


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/28/georgia-teacher-in-custody-after-reports-shots-fired-at-high-school.html

Teacher barricaded himself in a classroom and fired a shot out the window to prevent students and the principal from entering the room. But I'm sure arming teachers will go well.

(The far right is already all over this story as "FALSE FLAG" btw)
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charmander6000
02/28/18 5:06:38 PM
#173:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/968949929656946689

Trump says "I'm not even worried about 60 votes" on gun legislation because "it should be so easy."


Where have I heard this before...


I'm not even sure he has all the Democrat votes on gun legislation, honestly.


How strong is the NRA in terms of lobbying? Is a 20/40 Republican/Democrat split that unlikely?
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LapisLazuli
02/28/18 5:06:56 PM
#174:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/ap_images/status/968938936973365255

Well they did warn us gay marriage was a slippery slope...


Where the hell did he get an early release of the next Best of the Worst?? Totally not fair.
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Suprak the Stud
02/28/18 5:14:34 PM
#175:


FWIW Manchin was just on Fox News talking up the bill and singing Trump's praises for helping them get something done. He essentially wants it the same bill as the 2013 Manchin/Toomey bill but is much more optimistic about it passing this time if it has Trump's support.

He is definitely one of the most conservative Democrats on gun control, although there are a couple of others that aren't for sure guarantees either. So maybe he will have almost all of the Democratic votes on this depending on what the final bill looks like.

I'm still not super optimistic based on recent (and not so recent) history though.
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Suprak the Stud
02/28/18 5:15:31 PM
#176:


charmander6000 posted...
Suprak the Stud posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/968949929656946689

Trump says "I'm not even worried about 60 votes" on gun legislation because "it should be so easy."


Where have I heard this before...


I'm not even sure he has all the Democrat votes on gun legislation, honestly.


How strong is the NRA in terms of lobbying? Is a 20/40 Republican/Democrat split that unlikely?


NRA is probably one of the most powerful lobbying groups in the country, so even 15 Republicans on board might be though unless Trump really really forces them.
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 5:28:18 PM
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ChaosTonyV4
02/28/18 7:29:53 PM
#178:


Trump shitting on the NRA and straight up saying "take the guns first, due process second" is my new favorite development.

I can't wati to see how the Trumpers rea-

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Jakyl25
02/28/18 7:36:07 PM
#179:


Whats that thing about when reality becomes indistinguishable from satire?
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Leafeon13N
02/28/18 7:39:36 PM
#180:


Bernie is softer on gun control than Trump except when politically convenient.
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HaRRicH
02/28/18 7:50:52 PM
#181:


Just saw this comparison: Obama had five White House Communication Directors through both of his terms. Donald will have five White House Communication Directors when they replace Hicks.

Eight years (thanks Obama)
VS
Just over thirteen months (SAD!)
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transcience
02/28/18 7:52:22 PM
#182:


this Trump swerve would be massive news if I believed it would stay true for the next however many weeks it takes to get actual policy in place. that would be great but I'm skeptical.

I've been trying to figure out if this is legit and goes through, if Trump gets more popular or less popular as a result. I feel like it might be less just because the only people with him right now is his base and this is one hill that some of them will die on.
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BowserCuffs
02/28/18 7:55:04 PM
#183:


So basically, Trump is the guy that makes his loyal fanbase sacrifice values they would previously died for just because they don't want to be proven wrong about him being the "best President ever".

Sounds about right.
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 8:00:57 PM
#184:


transcience posted...
one hill that some of them will die on.


Literally in some cases
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 8:11:48 PM
#185:


https://twitter.com/ap/status/968995739828408322

BREAKING: Walmart says it will no longer sell firearms and ammunition to people younger than 21.

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Ashethan
02/28/18 8:15:18 PM
#186:


Why the fuck is wal-mart selling guns and ammunition to begin with? It's fucking wal-mart.
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SgtSphynx
02/28/18 8:15:49 PM
#187:


Sporting goods
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SgtSphynx
02/28/18 8:16:09 PM
#188:


Also, they only sell rifles except in Alaska
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 8:19:57 PM
#189:


Ashethan posted...
Why the fuck is wal-mart selling guns and ammunition to begin with? It's fucking wal-mart.


Are you a non-American?
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LapisLazuli
02/28/18 8:20:54 PM
#190:


Ashethan posted...
Why the fuck is wal-mart selling guns and ammunition to begin with? It's fucking wal-mart.


Wal-Mart is the biggest seller of guns in the nation.
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Paratroopa1
02/28/18 8:21:51 PM
#191:


I don't understand why people are surprised by Trump wanting to take away guns and then Trumpers being cool with that. this is standard authoritarian strongman talk and response.
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 8:22:49 PM
#192:


Paratroopa1 posted...
I don't understand why people are surprised by Trump wanting to take away guns and then Trumpers being cool with that. this is standard authoritarian strongman talk and response.


I just think its funny

I know Trumps thoughts on the matter essentially boil down to dont let bad people have guns, why is that so hard?
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Eddv
02/28/18 8:22:51 PM
#193:


Paratroopa1 posted...
I don't understand why people are surprised by Trump wanting to take away guns and then Trumpers being cool with that. this is standard authoritarian strongman talk and response.


Trump behaves enough like a normal Republican between outbursts that it surprises people when hes still trump
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Ashethan
02/28/18 8:23:32 PM
#194:


Jakyl25 posted...
Are you a non-American?


No, I'm an American. I think it's stupid that a department store sells guns. Target doesn't sell guns, and their name is fucking Target.
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 8:32:30 PM
#195:


Ashethan posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Are you a non-American?


No, I'm an American. I think it's stupid that a department store sells guns. Target doesn't sell guns, and their name is fucking Target.


That would just be asking for trouble
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StealThisSheen
02/28/18 8:37:42 PM
#196:


Ashethan posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Are you a non-American?


No, I'm an American. I think it's stupid that a department store sells guns. Target doesn't sell guns, and their name is fucking Target.


A lot of department stores that have bigger hunting/fishing sections sell guns, or at one time have sold guns

This isn't anything new
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HaRRicH
02/28/18 8:44:10 PM
#197:


Ashethan posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Are you a non-American?


No, I'm an American. I think it's stupid that a department store sells guns. Target doesn't sell guns, and their name is fucking Target.


Okay, I laughed.
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Dark Young Link
02/28/18 9:04:18 PM
#198:


I'm actually curious how the NRA is going to respond to all of this.
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Jakyl25
02/28/18 9:06:47 PM
#199:


Youd have to have a grandfather clause for 18-20 year-olds who already have them legally right?

I do WANT the image of Trump troops coming to take someones gun away
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Not_an_Owl
02/28/18 9:07:24 PM
#200:


Dark Young Link posted...
I'm actually curious how the NRA is going to respond to all of this.

If they're smart, they'll recognize that public opinion is not on their side on this one, pull in their horns, and lay low for a month or two.
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transcience
02/28/18 9:08:59 PM
#201:


Dick's did the same as Walmart, and came out with a statement that was surprisingly liberal.

Para, I think it's the eight years of Obama will take my guns schadenfreude that's driving a lot of those thoughts and feelings. that was torture every single day and now whoops.
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