Board 8 > Was Porygon a racist name?

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UInstinctGogeta
02/04/18 5:27:30 PM
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Obviously no reason to explain the potential reason why...

Do you think it was?
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Dark Young Link
02/04/18 5:32:52 PM
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StealThisSheen
02/04/18 5:34:34 PM
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...Isn't Porygon also its Japanese name
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UInstinctGogeta
02/04/18 5:42:09 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
...Isn't Porygon also its Japanese name


I did not know that...

I always thought it was just Pikachu, Raichu, Mew and Mewtwo.
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StealThisSheen
02/04/18 5:48:45 PM
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Yeah. If anything, it would've been racist if they were like "Aww, cute, they're trying to say Polygon" and named it that. >_>
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trdl23
02/04/18 5:54:26 PM
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Asian dialect L --> R swap

But no, it isn't.
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UInstinctGogeta
02/04/18 6:00:07 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
Yeah. If anything, it would've been racist if they were like "Aww, cute, they're trying to say Polygon" and named it that. >_>


Yeah, I thought the joke was

"LOOK, it's made out of polygons, I got a fun pun.... michievious smirk"
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trdl23
02/04/18 6:01:59 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
trdl23 posted...
Asian dialect L --> R swap

But no, it isn't.

.......I literally never noticed this

Neither did I until this topic. I'm really curious why it even came up.
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Team Rocket Elite
02/04/18 6:04:14 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
...Isn't Porygon also its Japanese name


I think Porygon and Polygon would both be written as in Japanese. With that said, I don't recall how Japanese Pokemon merchandise or websites would romanize the name.
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UInstinctGogeta
02/04/18 6:05:04 PM
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trdl23 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
trdl23 posted...
Asian dialect L --> R swap

But no, it isn't.

.......I literally never noticed this

Neither did I until this topic. I'm really curious why it even came up.


Been reading about competitive Pokmon the last 2 months on Smogon and such.

Today I was reading up on Porygon Z
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UInstinctGogeta
02/04/18 6:08:24 PM
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
...Isn't Porygon also its Japanese name


I think Porygon and Polygon would both be written as in Japanese. With that said, I don't recall how Japanese Pokemon merchandise or websites would romanize the name.


See, to me personally, that shades it to racist joke...

Because if it's name could be translated as Polygon.... and they went with Porygon....

Yeah.
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redrocket_pub
02/04/18 6:08:42 PM
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UInstinctGogeta posted...
Obviously no reason to explain the potential reason why...


wut
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foolm0r0n
02/04/18 6:10:22 PM
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The original name was Porygouk
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StealThisSheen
02/04/18 6:16:57 PM
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UInstinctGogeta posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
...Isn't Porygon also its Japanese name


I think Porygon and Polygon would both be written as in Japanese. With that said, I don't recall how Japanese Pokemon merchandise or websites would romanize the name.


See, to me personally, that shades it to racist joke...

Because if it's name could be translated as Polygon.... and they went with Porygon....

Yeah.


"It is written with the 4 Katakana characters po-ry-go-n"

Which, yes, can be translated as both "Porygon" and "Polygon." But they didn't go with "Porygon" to be racist, they went with it because the alternative is literally the word polygon

Stop being stupid.
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MariaTaylor
02/04/18 7:03:53 PM
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everything is racist, so yes
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WazzupGenius00
02/04/18 10:40:23 PM
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There is an official romanization for all Japanese pokemon names IIRC, I assume Bulbapedia lists them somewhere

Given that gen 1 JP got such great names as
Strike
Fire
Thunder
Coil
Ghost AND Ghos

I wouldnt be surprised if it really was officially Polygon in Japan
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StealThisSheen
02/04/18 10:42:59 PM
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WazzupGenius00 posted...
There is an official romanization for all Japanese pokemon names IIRC, I assume Bulbapedia lists them somewhere

Given that gen 1 JP got such great names as
Strike
Fire
Thunder
Coil
Ghost AND Ghos

I wouldnt be surprised if it really was officially Polygon in Japan


Bulbapedia says Porygon, which is what I initially went off of. I just didn't know how much stock to put into it.
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foolm0r0n
02/04/18 10:44:39 PM
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It's crazy how much better the English localized names are
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WazzupGenius00
02/04/18 10:47:17 PM
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They ALMOST called Gyarados Skulkraken in English
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Team Rocket Elite
02/04/18 10:51:51 PM
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It says "Porygon" in the first Japanese opening of the anime. Considering how many times I've seen it, I really should have known that. >_>
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MZero11
02/04/18 10:55:28 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
Stop being stupid.

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UInstinctGogeta
02/04/18 10:58:24 PM
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WazzupGenius00 posted...
They ALMOST called Gyarados Skulkraken in English


Sad they didn't.
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Snrkiko
02/04/18 11:45:04 PM
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UInstinctGogeta posted...
WazzupGenius00 posted...
They ALMOST called Gyarados Skulkraken in English


Sad they didn't.

maybe they thought it was racist
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NFUN
02/05/18 12:02:39 AM
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WazzupGenius00 posted...
They ALMOST called Gyarados Skulkraken in English

That would have been fucking sick
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Raka_Putra
02/05/18 12:13:43 AM
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WazzupGenius00 posted...
They ALMOST called Gyarados Skulkraken in English

Now that's an amazing one.

Also Electrode is also a real word so Polygon might have been fine.
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NFUN
02/05/18 12:18:37 AM
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https://sporcle.com/games/iglew/ospd-pokemon
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foolm0r0n
02/05/18 12:29:49 AM
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The best thing about you is your ignorance, yes
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Llarian
02/05/18 11:00:11 AM
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StealThisSheen posted...
Stop being stupid.

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NFUN
02/05/18 11:03:28 AM
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Llarian posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Stop being stupid.

Do you not realize who you're talking to?
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LusterSoldier
02/05/18 2:48:15 PM
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UInstinctGogeta posted...
Was Porygon a racist name?


I don't remember Porygon ever being accused of being a racist Pokemon name. The only real accusations of racism in the Pokemon world was Jynx's original Pokemon design where it had black skin. Some people thought Jynx was based on a racist stereotype and in response to this, the design was changed and Jynx's black skin was changed to purple instead.
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WhiteLens
02/05/18 3:05:24 PM
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I don't know if people really think of Ludicolo as an offensive stereotype or just joke about it.
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Raka_Putra
02/05/18 7:14:22 PM
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What about Probopass?
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gmun-chama
02/05/18 7:18:42 PM
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letter substitution is part of the basics in brand naming, which includes IPs / characters

like Rice Krispies

Porygon is the same concept
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Grand Kirby
02/05/18 8:06:40 PM
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Somehow Persian slipped through.
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NFUN
02/05/18 10:19:14 PM
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Grand Kirby posted...
Somehow Persian slipped through.

rdCmWtw
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WhiteLens
02/05/18 10:28:58 PM
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Something like Purrsian would've been a clever pun to go with Meowth, but they went with an actual name for some reason.
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MoogleKupo141
02/05/18 10:31:15 PM
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and Persian looks nothing like an actual Persian cat
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FakeAccount3000
02/06/18 2:54:45 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I must be naive or the exact opposite of racist or something, because my brain never computes things like this to racism. Like this story from a month ago blew me away, because I legitimately thought the kid was cute and thought nothing of it: http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/08/news/companies/hm-apologizes-monkey-hoodie/index.html

Or like when ESPN had that "Chink in the armor" headline and everyone went nuts (source: https://www.cnn.com/2012/02/19/sport/espn-lin-slur/index.html), and I'm sitting here like it's a very common figure of speech for when something invincible cracks. I cannot wrap my brain around how the perpetually offended crowd thinks.


Honestly Im not sure how to fix it but I hate how we continually allow the worst parts of humanity to make more and more words taboo by misusing them. We are literally letting the assholes define our language and yet how do we fight back against it?

I mean objectively speaking anyone like me who believes in evolution knows all humans have a common anscestor with monkeys and we are all primates but I would also feel like a racist asshole if I used it like, you know.

And its all because In the past some dickheads misused the word as an insult repeatedly. As someone who appreciates language I hate how we ruin our own.
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Nanis23
02/06/18 5:43:42 AM
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Was Crash Man a racist name
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Heroic Bigpun
02/06/18 8:11:21 AM
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Never thought about the I r thing before with porygon
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