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Full Throttle 02/02/18 10:22:57 PM #1:	Do you have beef with a 22 y/o teacher dating an 18 y/o high school student? Yes, a student-teacher line should not be crossed no matter if they are of age of consent No, they aren't even that far apart in ages and he's legally an adult, the student/teacher angle doesn't matter to me I say as long as the parents know about it and approve of this then i have no problem with it either View Results 22 y/o Dirty Birdy, Taylor Boncal, a former assistant track coach and student teacher at Conrad High School in Connecticut was arrested for having SEX with an 18 y/o MALE STUDENT!! It happened at Conard High School who is accused of having sex with the male teen who at ANOTHER school but in the same district. A concerned parent who had NO RELATION to the teen or the teacher then notified the superintendent and blew the whistle on the couple as an investigation was launched on January 12 when Taylor was 21 at the time when the relationship began where Taylor was then fired. Police were notified and she was promptly arrested for THREE COUNTS of second degree sexual assault.. Principal Julio Duarte released a statement to confirm the relationship and stated that educators are entrusted to protect and educate all of their students and said they have boundaries that can't be crossed and will not tolerate this behaviour. A spokesperson said the couple were MADLY in love and the student's parents are asking that she NOT be prosecuted Do you have a problem with a 22 y/o Teacher dating an 18 y/o High School Student? let's see what people will vote Taylor - Could face prosecution http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/02/21/48D4BB2F00000578-0-image-a-43_1517608056347.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/02/21/48D4BB1B00000578-0-image-m-42_1517608045873.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/02/22/48D4BB2300000578-5346561-image-a-56_1517610557025.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/02/21/48D4BB2800000578-0-image-a-37_1517608015123.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/02/21/48D4BB0A00000578-0-image-m-36_1517608000715.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/02/21/48D4BB0F00000578-0-image-a-44_1517608101165.jpg --- call me mrduckbear, sweater monkeys. Everytime a GFAQS User Steps On A Bug, I'll Stop Posting for 24 HOURS I'm an Asian Liberal. RESIST The Alt-Right <cite>Full Throttle posted [p:895348854] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote> Do you have beef with a 22 y/o teacher dating an 18 y/o high school student? Yes, a student-teacher line should not be crossed no matter if they are of age of consent No, they aren't even that far apart in ages and he's legally an adult, the student/teacher angle doesn't matter to me I say as long as the parents know about it and approve of this then i have no problem with it either View Results 22 y/o Dirty Birdy, Taylor Boncal, a former assistant track coach and student teacher at Conrad High School in Connecticut was arrested for having SEX with an 18 y/o MALE STUDENT!! It happened at Conard High School who is accused of having sex with the male teen who at ANOTHER school but in the same district. A concerned parent who had NO RELATION to the teen or the teacher then notified the superintendent and blew the whistle on the couple as an investigation was launched on January 12 when Taylor was 21 at the time when the relationship began where Taylor was then fired. Police were notified and she was promptly arrested for THREE COUNTS of second degree sexual assault.. Principal Julio Duarte released a statement to confirm the relationship and stated that educators are entrusted to protect and educate all of their students and said they have boundaries that can't be crossed and will not tolerate this behaviour. A spokesperson said the couple were MADLY in love and the student's parents are asking that she NOT be prosecuted Do you have a problem with a 22 y/o Teacher dating an 18 y/o High School Student? let's see what people will vote Taylor - Could face prosecution http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/02/21/48D4BB2F00000578-0-image-a-43_1517608056347.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/02/21/48D4BB1B00000578-0-image-m-42_1517608045873.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/02/22/48D4BB2300000578-5346561-image-a-56_1517610557025.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/02/21/48D4BB2800000578-0-image-a-37_1517608015123.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/02/21/48D4BB0A00000578-0-image-m-36_1517608000715.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/02/02/21/48D4BB0F00000578-0-image-a-44_1517608101165.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 02/02/18 10:27:17 PM #2:	Full Throttle posted... It happened at Conard High School who is accused of having sex with the male teen who at ANOTHER school but in the same district. He's 18 and at a different school, so what the fuck is the conflict...? There's no abuse of position because she's not in charge of him and there's no statutory because he's 18. Ah, this fucking state. Full Throttle posted... A spokesperson said the couple were MADLY in love and the student's parents are asking that she NOT be prosecuted And she shouldn't be, because it's fucking stupid. Full Throttle posted... Do you have a problem with a 22 y/o Teacher dating an 18 y/o High School Student? If the 22 y/o isn't in a position of power over the 18 y/o student -- ie, not even at the same school -- I have zero issues. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:895349125] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote>It happened at Conard High School who is accused of having sex with the male teen who at ANOTHER school but in the same district. </quote> He's 18 and at a different school, so what the fuck is the conflict...? There's no abuse of position because she's not in charge of him and there's no statutory because he's 18. Ah, this fucking state. <cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote>A spokesperson said the couple were MADLY in love and the student's parents are asking that she NOT be prosecuted</quote> And she shouldn't be, because it's fucking stupid. <cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote>Do you have a problem with a 22 y/o Teacher dating an 18 y/o High School Student? </quote> If the 22 y/o isn't in a position of power over the 18 y/o student -- ie, not even at the same school -- I have zero issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 02/02/18 10:27:59 PM #3:	This bs needs to stop <cite>dioxxys posted [p:895349178] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote>This bs needs to stop</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 02/02/18 10:28:25 PM #4:	If he was 18, it shouldn't be a crime. Now, she also shouldn't work at the same school he goes to because that can result in a conflict of interest... But it seems like she doesn't... If he's of consenting age(especially when the parents are fine with it), nothing is really bad about this... --- 3DS Friend Code: 4742 6214 5315 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. 0001 3388 9537, also. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:895349210] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote>If he was 18, it shouldn't be a crime. Now, she also shouldn't work at the same school he goes to because that can result in a conflict of interest... But it seems like she doesn't... If he's of consenting age(especially when the parents are fine with it), nothing is really bad about this...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Golden Road 02/02/18 10:34:57 PM #5:	I voted before I read the story. Sorry about that. That was a rather duplicitous topic title, Ducky. The "same school" part is implied when you do that. I voted yes not knowing that this student went to a different school from the teacher. When people complain about student/teacher relationships, they're talking about the same school, and the problems that come from a person in authority abusing that authority. This is just an adult having sex with another adult. The power dynamics don't come into play when they're not at the same school. --- Who's your favorite character from "Bend It Like Beckham"? And you can't say Beckham. <cite>Golden Road posted [p:895349575] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote>I voted before I read the story. Sorry about that. That was a rather duplicitous topic title, Ducky. The "same school" part is implied when you do that. I voted yes not knowing that this student went to a different school from the teacher. When people complain about student/teacher relationships, they're talking about the same school, and the problems that come from a person in authority abusing that authority. This is just an adult having sex with another adult. The power dynamics don't come into play when they're not at the same school.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nade Duck 02/02/18 10:40:24 PM #6:	never vote on impulse in duckbear topics dude, that's like the second thing every potder should know. the first being never to take duckbear topics seriously. --- http://i.imgur.com/ElACjJD.gifv <cite>Nade Duck posted [p:895349874] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote>never vote on impulse in duckbear topics dude, that's like the second thing every potder should know. the first being never to take duckbear topics seriously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 02/02/18 11:44:35 PM #7:	Full Throttle posted... Do you have beef with a 22 y/o teacher dating an 18 y/o high school student? They are 18 so I wouldn't have a issue with any 18+ year old dating them. Hell over here the same can be said for 16 year olds. Providing it's legal it doesn't matter to me. That's not to say I have a issue with underage relationships(within reason) providing both are close in age. Still the only slight issue would be that they are a teacher to said 18 year old meaning they could be biased towards them but that's easy to fix such as in this case they are at different schools. Of course in the eyes of the law it's different for reasons but I don't agree with everything the law states. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:895353103] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Full Throttle posted...</cite> <quote>Do you have beef with a 22 y/o teacher dating an 18 y/o high school student?</quote> They are 18 so I wouldn't have a issue with any 18+ year old dating them. Hell over here the same can be said for 16 year olds. Providing it's legal it doesn't matter to me. That's not to say I have a issue with underage relationships(within reason) providing both are close in age. Still the only slight issue would be that they are a teacher to said 18 year old meaning they could be biased towards them but that's easy to fix such as in this case they are at different schools. Of course in the eyes of the law it's different for reasons but I don't agree with everything the law states.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JTekashiro 02/03/18 11:22:28 AM #8:	I mean, it is weird for an adult to date a high-schooler but it isn't necessarily criminal, certainly not in this case. <cite>JTekashiro posted [p:895372462] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote>I mean, it is weird for an adult to date a high-schooler but it isn't necessarily criminal, certainly not in this case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faramir77 02/03/18 11:28:11 AM #9:	Teachers are not employed by a school, they are employed by a school district. They are simultaneously employees of all schools in the division. A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching, never mind students that with a quick reassignment, which can occur at ANY time, they could ACTUALLY be teaching. Fair, next. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:895372698] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote>Teachers are not employed by a school, they are employed by a school district. They are simultaneously employees of all schools in the division. A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching, never mind students that with a quick reassignment, which can occur at ANY time, they could ACTUALLY be teaching. Fair, next.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 02/03/18 12:20:25 PM #10:	faramir77 posted... A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching, By that logic, teachers simply shouldn't date anyone? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:895375038] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote> A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching,</quote> By that logic, teachers simply shouldn't date anyone?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 02/03/18 12:22:59 PM #11:	Nichtcrawler X posted... faramir77 posted... A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching, By that logic, teachers simply shouldn't date anyone? yeah for real, the teacher is young too she and the guy could have been going to highschool at the same time XD (freshman/senior scenario) <cite>dioxxys posted [p:895375159] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote> A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching,</quote> By that logic, teachers simply shouldn't date anyone?</quote> yeah for real, the teacher is young too she and the guy could have been going to highschool at the same time XD (freshman/senior scenario)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faramir77 02/03/18 12:57:06 PM #12:	Nichtcrawler X posted... faramir77 posted... A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching, By that logic, teachers simply shouldn't date anyone? Where do you live that 22+ year olds are in school --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:895376795] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote> A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching,</quote> By that logic, teachers simply shouldn't date anyone?</quote> Where do you live that 22+ year olds are in school</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 02/03/18 1:28:50 PM #13:	faramir77 posted... Teachers are not employed by a school, they are employed by a school district. They are simultaneously employees of all schools in the division. That's irrelevant, she still doesn't have power over him. Your reasoning is the same as saying impersonating a parking attendant is impersonating a police officer because they both work for the government. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:895378359] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>Teachers are not employed by a school, they are employed by a school district. They are simultaneously employees of all schools in the division.</quote> That's irrelevant, she still doesn't have power over him. Your reasoning is the same as saying impersonating a parking attendant is impersonating a police officer because they both work for the government.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faramir77 02/03/18 1:35:32 PM #14:	Kyuubi4269 posted... faramir77 posted... Teachers are not employed by a school, they are employed by a school district. They are simultaneously employees of all schools in the division. That's irrelevant, she still doesn't have power over him. Your reasoning is the same as saying impersonating a parking attendant is impersonating a police officer because they both work for the government. It's not irrelevant at all. The student is part of the district just as she is, and a personal relationship with them goes against their professional code of conduct by which they are legally bound to. I'm a teacher, I know the rules through and through. And your analogy is horrible. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:895378691] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>Teachers are not employed by a school, they are employed by a school district. They are simultaneously employees of all schools in the division.</quote> That's irrelevant, she still doesn't have power over him. Your reasoning is the same as saying impersonating a parking attendant is impersonating a police officer because they both work for the government.</quote> It's not irrelevant at all. The student is part of the district just as she is, and a personal relationship with them goes against their professional code of conduct by which they are legally bound to. I'm a teacher, I know the rules through and through. And your analogy is horrible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 02/03/18 1:43:11 PM #16:	faramir77 posted... A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching I mean the teacher is 22 so why would dating a 18 year old be bad? Doesn't matter that they are a teacher as they are not the ones teaching the person they are dating. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:895379079] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching</quote> I mean the teacher is 22 so why would dating a 18 year old be bad? Doesn't matter that they are a teacher as they are not the ones teaching the person they are dating.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 02/03/18 1:45:10 PM #17:	faramir77 posted... The student is part of the district just as she is, and a personal relationship with them goes against their professional code of conduct by which they are legally bound to. Contractually. A sexual misconduct charge can't even be applied as the teacher does not have power/authority over the student. I'm not debating your contractual obligations to the school or punishments attached to that, I'm telling you that it's not a legal offense to be in a consensual relationship with an adult who is in study because you happen to teach other people. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:895379195] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>The student is part of the district just as she is, and a personal relationship with them goes against their professional code of conduct by which they are legally bound to.</quote> Contractually. A sexual misconduct charge can't even be applied as the teacher does not have power/authority over the student. I'm not debating your contractual obligations to the school or punishments attached to that, I'm telling you that it's not a legal offense to be in a consensual relationship with an adult who is in study because you happen to teach other people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 02/03/18 1:45:53 PM #18:	wwinterj25 posted... faramir77 posted... A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching I mean the teacher is 22 so why would dating a 18 year old be bad? Doesn't matter that they are a teacher as they are not the ones teaching the person they are dating. Also they aren't paid enough to put their romantic lives on hold. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:895379235] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching</quote> I mean the teacher is 22 so why would dating a 18 year old be bad? Doesn't matter that they are a teacher as they are not the ones teaching the person they are dating.</quote> Also they aren't paid enough to put their romantic lives on hold.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 02/03/18 2:02:25 PM #19:	JTekashiro posted... I mean, it is weird for an adult to date a high-schooler but it isn't necessarily criminal, certainly not in this case. ...the high schooler is also an adult. Is it weird for high schoolers to date high schoolers then? faramir77 posted... Teachers are not employed by a school, they are employed by a school district. They are simultaneously employees of all schools in the division. A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching, never mind students that with a quick reassignment, which can occur at ANY time, they could ACTUALLY be teaching. Fair, next. That's shitty reasoning, though. For starters, any other 22 y/o could date that 18 y/o. Hell, any 25 y/o could. Or 30 y/o. Or 50 y/o. If the argument is "well, maybe they'll be in a position of authority," the same could be true for others who might take a job at the school. It's why an issue like that should only be resolved when it happens. faramir77 posted... Nichtcrawler X posted... faramir77 posted... A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching, By that logic, teachers simply shouldn't date anyone? Where do you live that 22+ year olds are in school Any place with a college? >_> Not to mention night schools. Kyuubi4269 posted... faramir77 posted... The student is part of the district just as she is, and a personal relationship with them goes against their professional code of conduct by which they are legally bound to. Contractually. A sexual misconduct charge can't even be applied as the teacher does not have power/authority over the student. I'm not debating your contractual obligations to the school or punishments attached to that, I'm telling you that it's not a legal offense to be in a consensual relationship with an adult who is in study because you happen to teach other people. Yeah, but stupid states also sometimes have stupid laws and the more liberal a state is the stupider its laws tend to be. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:895380061] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>JTekashiro posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, it is weird for an adult to date a high-schooler but it isn't necessarily criminal, certainly not in this case.</quote> ...the high schooler is also an adult. Is it weird for high schoolers to date high schoolers then? <cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>Teachers are not employed by a school, they are employed by a school district. They are simultaneously employees of all schools in the division. A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching, never mind students that with a quick reassignment, which can occur at ANY time, they could ACTUALLY be teaching. Fair, next.</quote> That's shitty reasoning, though. For starters, any other 22 y/o could date that 18 y/o. Hell, any 25 y/o could. Or 30 y/o. Or 50 y/o. If the argument is "well, maybe they'll be in a position of authority," the same could be true for others who might take a job at the school. It's why an issue like that should only be resolved when it happens. <cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote> A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching,</quote> By that logic, teachers simply shouldn't date anyone?</quote> Where do you live that 22+ year olds are in school</quote> Any place with a college? >_> Not to mention night schools. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>The student is part of the district just as she is, and a personal relationship with them goes against their professional code of conduct by which they are legally bound to.</quote> Contractually. A sexual misconduct charge can't even be applied as the teacher does not have power/authority over the student. I'm not debating your contractual obligations to the school or punishments attached to that, I'm telling you that it's not a legal offense to be in a consensual relationship with an adult who is in study because you happen to teach other people.</quote> Yeah, but stupid states also sometimes have stupid laws and the more liberal a state is the stupider its laws tend to be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faramir77 02/03/18 2:10:04 PM #20:	Kyuubi4269 posted... I'm not debating your contractual obligations to the school or punishments attached to that, I'm telling you that it's not a legal offense to be in a consensual relationship with an adult who is in study because you happen to teach other people. Except yes, it is a legal offense. I've been saying this all along. Teachers are government employees and are bound to legislation. I'm not a teacher in Connecticut, but in Alberta this falls under the "School Act", which is legislation that lays out the professional guidelines for teachers and students. A quick Google search into Connecticut laws regarding professionalism in teaching showed me that this is part of the "Connecticut General Statutes" (C.G.S.): C.G.S. 53a-71 "(a) A person is guilty of sexual assault in the second degree when such person engages in sexual intercourse with another person and: ... (8) the actor is a school employee and such other person is a student enrolled in a school in which the actor works or a school under the jurisdiction of the local or regional board of education which employs the actor; https://www.lawserver.com/law/state/connecticut/ct-laws/connecticut_statutes_53a-71 --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:895380457] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not debating your contractual obligations to the school or punishments attached to that, I'm telling you that it's not a legal offense to be in a consensual relationship with an adult who is in study because you happen to teach other people.</quote> Except yes, it is a legal offense. I've been saying this all along. Teachers are government employees and are bound to legislation. I'm not a teacher in Connecticut, but in Alberta this falls under the "School Act", which is legislation that lays out the professional guidelines for teachers and students. A quick Google search into Connecticut laws regarding professionalism in teaching showed me that this is part of the "Connecticut General Statutes" (C.G.S.): <quote>C.G.S. 53a-71 "(a) A person is guilty of sexual assault in the second degree when such person engages in sexual intercourse with another person and: ... (8) the actor is a school employee and such other person is a student enrolled in a school in which the actor works or a school under the jurisdiction of the local or regional board of education which employs the actor;</quote> https://www.lawserver.com/law/state/connecticut/ct-laws/connecticut_statutes_53a-71</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faramir77 02/03/18 2:16:18 PM #21:	Zeus posted... For starters, any other 22 y/o could date that 18 y/o. Any other 22 year old isn't a government employee bound to legislation regarding professionalism. Zeus posted... the same could be true for others who might take a job at the school. Exactly. That's MY point. Zeus posted... Any place with a college? >_> That's not part of a school district, don't play dumb. Zeus posted... Yeah, but stupid states also sometimes have stupid laws and the more liberal a state is the stupider its laws tend to be. If you had any idea how school districts operate, you'd know this isn't a "stupid law" and that it exists for a reason. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:895380808] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>For starters, any other 22 y/o could date that 18 y/o.</quote> Any other 22 year old isn't a government employee bound to legislation regarding professionalism. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>the same could be true for others who might take a job at the school.</quote> Exactly. That's MY point. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Any place with a college? >_></quote> That's not part of a school district, don't play dumb. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, but stupid states also sometimes have stupid laws and the more liberal a state is the stupider its laws tend to be.</quote> If you had any idea how school districts operate, you'd know this isn't a "stupid law" and that it exists for a reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 02/03/18 2:39:24 PM #22:	It's legal... age wise. this is a waste of time. They should go stop meth addicts from breaking into cars or actual child molesters or something. Hell, even littering is more serious. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:895381992] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote>It's legal... age wise. this is a waste of time. They should go stop meth addicts from breaking into cars or actual child molesters or something. Hell, even littering is more serious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 02/03/18 2:51:52 PM #23:	faramir77 posted... Any other 22 year old isn't a government employee bound to legislation regarding professionalism. Given that there's no issue regarding professionalism here, it shouldn't be illegal. And keep in mind that cops, firemen, etc, aren't bound to that. faramir77 posted... Exactly. That's MY point. Your point is that students shouldn't be allowed to date anybody at all because that person could someday take a job at their school? And keep in mind that students can take jobs at schools, so even students wouldn't be able to date students. faramir77 posted... If you had any idea how school districts operate, you'd know this isn't a "stupid law" and that it exists for a reason. The problem and point of content is that the reason is stupid and there are more intelligent ways to deal with it. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:895382650] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>Any other 22 year old isn't a government employee bound to legislation regarding professionalism.</quote> Given that there's no issue regarding professionalism here, it shouldn't be illegal. And keep in mind that cops, firemen, etc, aren't bound to that. <cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>Exactly. That's MY point.</quote> Your point is that students shouldn't be allowed to date anybody at all because that person could someday take a job at their school? And keep in mind that students can take jobs at schools, so even students wouldn't be able to date students. <cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>If you had any idea how school districts operate, you'd know this isn't a "stupid law" and that it exists for a reason.</quote> The problem and point of content is that the reason is stupid and there are more intelligent ways to deal with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faramir77 02/03/18 2:58:10 PM #24:	Zeus posted... Given that there's no issue regarding professionalism here, it shouldn't be illegal. And if something occurs in the district and the teacher is assigned to that school? "Oh sorry I can't, I'm dating one of those kids" isn't an excuse. The law exists to prevent that. Zeus posted... And keep in mind that cops, firemen, etc, aren't bound to that. Teachers serve students in a school district. Think about who cops and firemen serve and then justify whether a similar law would be reasonable. Zeus posted... Your point is that students shouldn't be allowed to date anybody at all because that person could someday take a job at their school? Calm down there Cathy Zeus posted... there are more intelligent ways to deal with it Can you suggest one? --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:895382963] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Given that there's no issue regarding professionalism here, it shouldn't be illegal.</quote> And if something occurs in the district and the teacher is assigned to that school? "Oh sorry I can't, I'm dating one of those kids" isn't an excuse. The law exists to prevent that. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>And keep in mind that cops, firemen, etc, aren't bound to that. </quote> Teachers serve students in a school district. Think about who cops and firemen serve and then justify whether a similar law would be reasonable. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Your point is that students shouldn't be allowed to date anybody at all because that person could someday take a job at their school?</quote> Calm down there Cathy <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>there are more intelligent ways to deal with it</quote> Can you suggest one?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 02/03/18 3:31:06 PM #25:	I think it's a stupid law. If they are at different schools, the only way it would matter is if she got sent to his school, then was in a position to alter his grades, or affect him at all. And they could always just not send them. Usually, schools have enough people to work around this, and usually very easily... Even if schools don't have 22+ year olds, someone could stay back once or twice and be 20. And they could've have gone to the same school when they were younger and have dated... Don't cops sometime use their power over people to sometimes make it so that their co-workers won't believe domestic violence claims or arrest the other cop when they do something wrong, so maybe they shouldn't date, either... I mean, according to this law... It's a fucking idiotic law. Let them be adult, for fuck's sake... It's like the military all over again... --- 3DS Friend Code: 4742 6214 5315 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. 0001 3388 9537, also. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:895384735] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote>I think it's a stupid law. If they are at different schools, the only way it would matter is if she got sent to his school, then was in a position to alter his grades, or affect him at all. And they could always just not send them. Usually, schools have enough people to work around this, and usually very easily... Even if schools don't have 22+ year olds, someone could stay back once or twice and be 20. And they could've have gone to the same school when they were younger and have dated... Don't cops sometime use their power over people to sometimes make it so that their co-workers won't believe domestic violence claims or arrest the other cop when they do something wrong, so maybe they shouldn't date, either... I mean, according to this law... It's a fucking idiotic law. Let them be adult, for fuck's sake... It's like the military all over again...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pionear 02/03/18 4:26:39 PM #26:	faramir77 posted... Teachers are not employed by a school, they are employed by a school district. They are simultaneously employees of all schools in the division. A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching, never mind students that with a quick reassignment, which can occur at ANY time, they could ACTUALLY be teaching. Fair, next. This...arrested? Probably not, but definitely probably fired. Nade Duck posted... never vote on impulse in duckbear topics dude, that's like the second thing every potder should know. the first being never to take duckbear topics seriously. I always thought this was the same person....? <cite>pionear posted [p:895387847] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>Teachers are not employed by a school, they are employed by a school district. They are simultaneously employees of all schools in the division. A teacher has no business dating anyone the same age as students they could be teaching, never mind students that with a quick reassignment, which can occur at ANY time, they could ACTUALLY be teaching. Fair, next.</quote> This...arrested? Probably not, but definitely probably fired. <cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote>never vote on impulse in duckbear topics dude, that's like the second thing every potder should know. the first being never to take duckbear topics seriously.</quote> I always thought this was the same person....?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 02/03/18 4:30:40 PM #27:	@pionear, mrduckbear & Full_Throttle are the same person. Check Full_Throttle's sig... --- 3DS Friend Code: 4742 6214 5315 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. 0001 3388 9537, also. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:895388055] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote>@pionear, mrduckbear & Full_Throttle are the same person. Check Full_Throttle's sig...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
aHappySacka 02/03/18 5:01:17 PM #28:	I like how her pics get gradually worse. --- You are now blinking and breathing manually. http://i.imgur.com/91NC0Cb.gifv <cite>aHappySacka posted [p:895389726] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote>I like how her pics get gradually worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Golden Road 02/03/18 5:11:34 PM #29:	I don't care about hypotheticals. I care about what actually happened in this case. At least here, 21 year olds can still be enrolled in public school. And I fully admit there are problems with a 22 year old teacher dating a 21 year old student at the same school. At the same school. No one should be arrested over a hypothetical situation. If she were transferred to his school, the situation would change. She'd either need to stop dating him, or quit. That didn't happen, though. Hypothetically, a 22 year old teacher could be dating a 21 year old student from another state, but the student may move and wind up going to this teacher's school. Should that teacher be arrested because the 21 year old could possibly end up as a student at the teacher's school? That this teacher could possibly have in the future been at the same school as the student is something that isn't that important until it actually happens. Because of the power dynamics involved, I do agree that it should be a crime for a teacher to have relations with a student at their school, regardless of whether the student is yet an adult. It should not be a crime for a teacher to have relations with an adult student who does not go to the same school, though. Those same power dynamics that make it so troublesome simply don't exist. It's simply two adults deciding they want to be together. If the teacher has a contractual obligation not to go out with any student still in high school, then that should be treated as a breach of contract, and not a crime. A breach of contract does not have to mean a crime was committed. --- Who's your favorite character from "Bend It Like Beckham"? And you can't say Beckham. <cite>Golden Road posted [p:895390291] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote>I don't care about hypotheticals. I care about what actually happened in this case. At least here, 21 year olds can still be enrolled in public school. And I fully admit there are problems with a 22 year old teacher dating a 21 year old student at the same school. At the same school. No one should be arrested over a hypothetical situation. If she were transferred to his school, the situation would change. She'd either need to stop dating him, or quit. That didn't happen, though. Hypothetically, a 22 year old teacher could be dating a 21 year old student from another state, but the student may move and wind up going to this teacher's school. Should that teacher be arrested because the 21 year old could possibly end up as a student at the teacher's school? That this teacher could possibly have in the future been at the same school as the student is something that isn't that important until it actually happens. Because of the power dynamics involved, I do agree that it should be a crime for a teacher to have relations with a student at their school, regardless of whether the student is yet an adult. It should not be a crime for a teacher to have relations with an adult student who does not go to the same school, though. Those same power dynamics that make it so troublesome simply don't exist. It's simply two adults deciding they want to be together. If the teacher has a contractual obligation not to go out with any student still in high school, then that should be treated as a breach of contract, and not a crime. A breach of contract does not have to mean a crime was committed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GunslingerGunsl 02/03/18 5:13:36 PM #30:	faramir I think you're missing the main issue that pretty much everyone else here has with this case. Legality doesn't necessarily mean that something is right or wrong from a moral standpoint. It just doesn't seem right that someone will do jail time when they've done something that has not harmed anyone in any way. The specific law that you're talking about was probably put in place to prevent other conceivably bad situations that would happen if it was not there. Though that does not mean that the law is perfect. This is a situation where it should probably be reevaluated and have some amendment made to it. <cite>GunslingerGunsl posted [p:895390425] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote>faramir I think you're missing the main issue that pretty much everyone else here has with this case. Legality doesn't necessarily mean that something is right or wrong from a moral standpoint. It just doesn't seem right that someone will do jail time when they've done something that has not harmed anyone in any way. The specific law that you're talking about was probably put in place to prevent other conceivably bad situations that would happen if it was not there. Though that does not mean that the law is perfect. This is a situation where it should probably be reevaluated and have some amendment made to it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 02/03/18 6:34:32 PM #31:	Also, the parent who told should probablymkind their own business. Btw, did she know he was a student in her district? Or that he was a student at all? And did he know that she was a teacher? --- 3DS Friend Code: 4742 6214 5315 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. 0001 3388 9537, also. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:895394503] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote>Also, the parent who told should probablymkind their own business. Btw, did she know he was a student in her district? Or that he was a student at all? And did he know that she was a teacher?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 02/05/18 8:41:11 PM #32:	Golden Road posted... I voted before I read the story. Sorry about that. That was a rather duplicitous topic title, Ducky. The "same school" part is implied when you do that. I voted yes not knowing that this student went to a different school from the teacher. When people complain about student/teacher relationships, they're talking about the same school, and the problems that come from a person in authority abusing that authority. This is just an adult having sex with another adult. The power dynamics don't come into play when they're not at the same school. It shouldn't even matter if they went to the same school. He's fucking 18. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:895535918] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Golden Road posted...</cite> <quote>I voted before I read the story. Sorry about that. That was a rather duplicitous topic title, Ducky. The "same school" part is implied when you do that. I voted yes not knowing that this student went to a different school from the teacher. When people complain about student/teacher relationships, they're talking about the same school, and the problems that come from a person in authority abusing that authority. This is just an adult having sex with another adult. The power dynamics don't come into play when they're not at the same school.</quote> It shouldn't even matter if they went to the same school. He's fucking 18.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 02/06/18 11:55:59 PM #33:	faramir77 posted... And if something occurs in the district and the teacher is assigned to that school? "Oh sorry I can't, I'm dating one of those kids" isn't an excuse. The law exists to prevent that. Then she either refuses the transfer or they break the relationship. Otherwise pretty much anybody could potentially be in that boat, so they might as well make a law against teens dating. faramir77 posted... Teachers serve students in a school district. Think about who cops and firemen serve and then justify whether a similar law would be reasonable. Firemen aren't restricted from dating anybody, nor are police officers. Weird comparison. faramir77 posted... Can you suggest one? Sure, if she was to be transferred, you could have her break off the relationship. Or you could have her step down or refuse the transfer. Or, because the relationship predates the position of power, you could let it go anyway because she clearly didn't abuse her position to get the relationship and he's an adult. Literally any other way makes more sense than what happened. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:895613856] in This 22 y/... [t:76275952]...</cite> <quote><cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>And if something occurs in the district and the teacher is assigned to that school? "Oh sorry I can't, I'm dating one of those kids" isn't an excuse. The law exists to prevent that.</quote> Then she either refuses the transfer or they break the relationship. Otherwise pretty much anybody could potentially be in that boat, so they might as well make a law against teens dating. <cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>Teachers serve students in a school district. Think about who cops and firemen serve and then justify whether a similar law would be reasonable.</quote> Firemen aren't restricted from dating anybody, nor are police officers. Weird comparison. <cite>faramir77 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you suggest one?</quote> Sure, if she was to be transferred, you could have her break off the relationship. Or you could have her step down or refuse the transfer. Or, because the relationship predates the position of power, you could let it go anyway because she clearly didn't abuse her position to get the relationship and he's an adult. Literally any other way makes more sense than what happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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