Poll of the Day > Sports Discussion Topic #170: The Big Dumb Patriots are Going to Win it All

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Who else is excited for the return of the XFL?! Finally we can watch terrible football without compromising our political views when one out of every a hundred players doesn't stand for the anthem. I hope Kaepernick plays in the new league.

The XFL was one of those things that seemed cool to me at the time because I was a dumb kid, but then I watched videos of it years later and realized how terrible it is. But even back then, it wasn't that cool. I thought it was going to be NFL Blitz in real life so I was disappointed

The Brewers got Christian Yelich and Lorenzo Cain today. I wanna say Cain used to be in their farm system. Anyway, they were good last year and could be really good this year.

The NHL keeps up its high standards of officiating
https://twitter.com/CMS_74_/status/956701249403056128

the wild are definitely losing this game (as they should) but this is just a bad call

STLCards1991 posted...

The Brewers got Christian Yelich and Lorenzo Cain today. I wanna say Cain used to be in their farm system. Anyway, they were good last year and could be really good this year.

I'm a firm believer that the Brewers will be bad

STLCards1991 posted...

Who else is excited for the return of the XFL?! Finally we can watch terrible football without compromising our political views when one out of every a hundred players doesn't stand for the anthem. I hope Kaepernick plays in the new league.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5f/30/ba/5f30ba25d8e90d543d2453c16b525300.jpg

Anyways, it's gonna be a league full of white dopes if it does even happen.

STLCards1991 posted...

The Brewers got Christian Yelich and Lorenzo Cain today. I wanna say Cain used to be in their farm system. Anyway, they were good last year and could be really good this year.

If only Jimmy Nelson didn't mess up his shoulder on a slide...

Seriously though, what is their bullpen like beyond Knebel? I think that is their weakest spot.

MNTwins1991 posted...

The NHL keeps up its high standards of officiating
https://twitter.com/CMS_74_/status/956701249403056128

the wild are definitely losing this game (as they should) but this is just a bad call

Nobody understands goalie interference reviews.

BTW, anyone who thinks we should review pass interference calls should watch these calls.
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completely unbiased (I think the wild are going to need to rebuild very soon...I have no hope for those guys) I think I get why it's a correct call but it's one of the more frustrating and difficult calls to make in sports. Really good point about review PI calls. I definitely don't think they should review PI calls, but in hockey, they review tendy interference because the only time it's challenged is when it results in a goal or no goal

MNTwins1991 posted...

The NHL keeps up its high standards of officiating
https://twitter.com/CMS_74_/status/956701249403056128

the wild are definitely losing this game (as they should) but this is just a bad call

STLCards1991 posted...

The Brewers got Christian Yelich and Lorenzo Cain today. I wanna say Cain used to be in their farm system. Anyway, they were good last year and could be really good this year.

I'm a firm believer that the Brewers will be bad

As a Brewers fan for over 35 years, I know better than to get excited about the trades.
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I thought I understood the goalie interference rule somewhat, but after rereading the rule, watching that angle, and this angle (https://twitter.com/gilesferrell/status/956701889181224961) I honestly have no idea

Pretty much any time I see a questionable replay review it makes me wonder if replay reviews have even been a net benefit for sports. The answer is probably yes, but I also feel like I wouldn't miss them (though for the most part I grew up in the era of replay so I don't have a good idea of how bad it was before it).

Most of the reviews are good decisions in general, but there are enough dumb ones (often times more the fault of dumb rules) that they're worth questioning. I guess my thought is, why review anything unless you review everything? Not that they should review everything, but there are enough regular missed/bad calls (balls/strikes in baseball, travelling in basketball, holding in football) that the reviews they have seem like such a minimal improvement on the officiating accuracy. They take forever and interrupt the flow of the game, and no matter what, fans will still be dissatisfied with something.

Wii3Kings posted...

As a Brewers fan for over 35 years, I know better than to get excited about the trades.

I doubt the Brewers win the Central but the Cards are banking on finishing second and getting a wildcard, but the Brewers were probably already better than STL wanted to admit, so now getting leapfrogged looks a lot more likely to me.

MNTwins1991 posted...

I thought I understood the goalie interference rule somewhat, but after rereading the rule, watching that angle, and this angle (https://twitter.com/gilesferrell/status/956701889181224961) I honestly have no idea

I would hazard to guess that they saw Murray move his body around Koivu based on this angle, and Koivu's skate hitting the toe of the pad in the first shot made them think that Koivu affected Murray more than he did.
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I think replay has been a net negative on sports honestly. I was beating the drum hard on getting replay in MLB and it's basically been a disaster. I'd be very happy if they just got rid of it all tomorrow.

Replay only works with clearly defined plays. This is why when the NHL only reviewed whether a puck crossed a line or not, it worked extremely well. Tennis replays for whether a ball is in or out? Cool too. Are things a catch? Apparently, knowing what a catch is requires a PhD in continental philosophy.
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Replay is one of those things where it's gonna screw your favorite team over, and also help your favorite team. Replay or not, I think people are going to complain about it forever and always.

STLCards1991 posted...

I think replay has been a net negative on sports honestly. I was beating the drum hard on getting replay in MLB and it's basically been a disaster. I'd be very happy if they just got rid of it all tomorrow.

baseball is boring enough as is, with all those pitching changes. The attention spans of us millenials can't take anymore. brb checking snapchat and ig

Unfortunately, I doubt we'll ever see replay go away since the leagues love anything that can extend games and squeeze more ad dollars. Unless it gets to be like MLB where the length of games is actually driving people away. So you might be in luck with baseball, at least, but for the foreseeable future it seems like they'd rather spin their wheels on rules about stepping out of the batter's box and shit that they don't even enforce.

Zeeky_Bomb posted...

Tennis replays for whether a ball is in or out?

Those are cool because they have that computerized system that plays it through once. Couldn't they have something like that for whether a baseball cleared the fence?

I don't hate replay for such a silly personal reason as that. I can't even think of a game where replay really screwed the Cardinals.

There are plenty of scenarios where replay should be fine in MLB. Did the ball or the runner get to first base first? Was it a catch or did he trap the ball on the ground? But even the clear cut ones take incredibly long for no reason, and the actual challenge system is absolute nonsense. I just hate it so much.

I don't like replay but I don't think it's awful in the NFL. It's miserable in college football, where they stop games constantly to review stuff and then the call doesn't even change.

NFL replays are awful. I don't even know what goes on in them anymore. I thought they moved them to New York to centralize it and speed everything up but it takes just as long and I still see the referee have to go to a booth/tablet/headset or whatever. I don't know how much time is spent actually reviewing vs. meeting the commercial break length. Sometimes you don't get to see anything because of the commercials, or you do but they'll show like six replays of a useless angle and then only show the good angle once and they rarely use freeze frame.

I love those moves for the Brewers and I support any and all teams making the Cardinals sweat. With the Pirates bottoming out we need the Brewers to be good to make the NL Central fun.

"Any move in baseball is something that is fun" -me, sweating

I do want more moves. This offseason has been awful

Or more movies. I'd watch Angles in the Outfield 1.5

You'd probably prefer Angels in the End Zone. Not looking it up but I believe it was a made for tv movie starring David Gallagher

I wish the Giants would have signed Cain, but they have no money so they went with Austin Jackson instead. Oh boy.

Replay is so much better than no replay to me. Are you guys forgetting the dark days of no replay? Where we would all be thinking, "We lost the game because of that call...if only they could go back and see what really happened". I don't want to go back to that. I do agree that they all take way too long. If us viewers at home can figure it out after seeing a couple of different views in 10 seconds, why does it take them 3-5 minutes? The execution is horrible, especially in baseball to me since it's agonizingly boring to sit through a challenge. Football has a rules problem, but I don't think that's replay's fault.

Baseball has rules problems too. Stuff like popping off the bag on a steal turning into outs is ridiculous. And that fucking neighborhood play, challenging that is such horse shit but I think they might be doing something with that or maybe they already did

I agree with you on the steal attempt stuff. If the runner completely overshoots the bag, then fine, he's out. But to challenge if the guy put his knee on the base fractions of a second before he took his hand off is dumb and unnecessary. They should just simplify it to whether he was tagged before he reached the base or not.

Ultima_Dragoon posted...

Replay is so much better than no replay to me. Are you guys forgetting the dark days of no replay? Where we would all be thinking, "We lost the game because of that call...if only they could go back and see what really happened".

But we still think that all the time even with replay.

Another thing that disappoints me is that it often takes away exciting plays. The fumble that doesn't happen because his knee was just barely down; the acrobatic catch that gets taken away; the buzzer beater that didn't count because it was touching his fingertips for the last tenth of a second. It seems like those kind of replay reversals happen far more often than the opposite scenario (i.e. non-catch switched to a catch) and I find them annoying even if they do benefit my team.

Another one https://twitter.com/NHLDaily365/status/956756416840085504

I don't understand goalie interference apparently

I understand it perfectly, but I will not be explaining it to you.

when will baseball get fun? any mention of implementing anything in meetings gets shot down.
I can watch hockey no problem. they at least let them fight & they actually made attempts long ago to make the game faster (removing one of the blue lines was one).
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I like baseball

CaptainHammer posted...

I like baseball

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https://deadspin.com/report-ncaa-president-mark-emmert-was-personally-infor-1822470340

nuke the fucking NCAA already
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Zeeky_Bomb posted...

https://deadspin.com/report-ncaa-president-mark-emmert-was-personally-infor-1822470340

nuke the fucking NCAA already

Good luck with that.
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Mark Emmert is just the absolute worst scum on Earth.

Breaking (big if true): Vikings have figured out their QB situation



sorry for old meme, but it's just as relevant as as ever

Have you Stardew guys ever gotten to the bottom of the desert mine? Does it even have a bottom? I made it to 61 tonight and that took a lot of luck. I'd estimate the most I could get to is like 80 if I fully stretched the available time. I don't even know why I'm still mining so much since I almost have all the monster slayer goals and it's not even my second winter, which is a better time to do mining

There's no bottom to the skull cave. The main reason to do it is for the iridium ore you can get there. What I would do is save up a lot of stone and turn them into ladders so I could get down pretty low right away where the iridium starts generating better. I would also wait for a good fortune from the TV fortune teller before doing that.

I didn't get that far into the skull cave. Maybe level 30 or so. The enemies do too much damage, but maybe if I had more food on me it would have been more manageable.

How is Dragon Ball FigherZ so far? I've been hearing good things.

I haven't digged too deep just yet. I was about to start the story mode. I would describe the game itself as sorta Smash Bros meets Marvel vs Capcom because it has the frantic pace and crazy visuals of MvC (plus you pick a 3 man team) but a standard set of moves that everyone does a la smash that make it really easy to pick up any character. It's a cool game.

So far the only character I think really sucks is Captain Ginyu. My favorites so far are Adult Gohan and Trunks.

That seems to be my experience as well in the 30 minutes that I played of the beta. It's simple enough to pick up and be competent, but I know anyone with skill would still wipe the floor with me.

Oh, so that's what the fortune teller is for? I knew the game had a hidden "luck" stat, but I thought the fortune teller was mostly for show.

I just played with @STLCards1991 for a couple hours and I am loving Android 18 so far. Not sure who else could round out my squad

I contacted Amazon to ask why they didn't include the pre-order code for blue haired Goku and Vegeta and they said to ask about it again in 24 hours and then like 3 hours later I got an email saying they gave me a full refund. Wtf

Fuck Duke

Get fucked Duke

So you got the game for free? Or are they making you send it back

I bought it digital so there's not much they can do about it. Except take the money back I guess.

Send back the data