Poll of the Day > Sports Discussion Topic #170: The Big Dumb Patriots are Going to Win it All

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SkynyrdRocker posted...

Rockies posted...

This is one of the most insane Super Bowl runs I can think of. Has a backup QB ever won SB MVP? Or even won a Super Bowl at all?

Yeah... Tom Brady

Wasn't Bledsoe able to play by then though?

SkynyrdRocker posted...

Rockies posted...

This is one of the most insane Super Bowl runs I can think of. Has a backup QB ever won SB MVP? Or even won a Super Bowl at all?

Yeah... Tom Brady

Lmao I'm stupid, but... wasn't he basically installed as the starter that season? I think that Bledsoe was left out of the lineup healthy at some point. And Bledsoe was getting old. So maybe a backup won SB MVP but it still isn't as crazy as this. Wentz was their young franchise QB who was having an MVP season, not an aging expendable guy like Bledsoe.

Theres not gonna be a single light pole left in that city
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Some dude just jumped off a light pole and landed on his head.
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Kurt Warner would actually be a better example because Trent Green missed that whole season. But obviously he wasn't really that great either but Brady had officially assumed the starting job when he won. If Green had come back Warner certainly would have retained the job of course but still. Foles is the most backuppy backup to win

Yeah that's true. Bledsoe was healthy at that point, he actually played in the AFC Championship game when Brady got hurt for a little.

I can't think of any example of a backup that didn't take over the job winning the Super Bowl

It's crazy here.
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Fun fact about Warner: he was the last MVP to win the Super Bowl.

Philly police scanner going bananas right now:

https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/4603
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They're gonna find a dead body in the next hour. Its just been escalating since the game ended.
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Unlikely. No Philadelphian wants to be the person that died the day WE WON THE SUPERBOWL! SUCK IT NEW ENGLAND!
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I just want to add that before any of the cheating scandals and before any of the dynasty, I've hated the patriots since 2002.

Living in Philly and beating Brady, is so delicious. Nom nom.
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I think the best summary of Philadelphia right now is of the Eagles fan that literally got on his knees and ate horse shit.
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SkynyrdRocker posted...

Fun fact about Warner: he was the last MVP to win the Super Bowl.

Related fun fact, the league MVP has lost the last three Super Bowls

The talk around Boston is focused heavily on the decision to have Malcolm Butler suit up only to play one snap, and that came on a special teams play.

Big controversy given how poorly the Patriots defense, particularly the secondary, was performing.

People are wondering if Belichick held Butler back out of spite for whatever reason. A lot of the fans who thought that Wickersham article (about a rift in the Pats locker room) was bunk are now starting to wonder if it was true after all.
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There was never any real reason to doubt the Wickersham article beyond just obstinately yelling FAKE NEWS at everything.

I never doubted it based on solely Wickershams history and pedigree as a journalist. Hes not the type of writer to make shit up and he always does his research.

I guess Brandon Browner commented on the locker room rift and DontA Hightower liked it or whatever, as well as a couple former Patriots, and people are pointing to that as evidence corroborating the article lol
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They're ready to let him go thats why he didn't play. Like they've always done before with their players regardless of what they previously did. Patriots are always cold hard math. So just like in a videogame where you unlock the level 25 weapon, you throw away or sell your level 23 weapon and you rarely think twice afterward about it.
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The buzz around the office today is that it was an exciting game but the commercials were ho-hum at best.

What about halftime show takes???

No reports so far. I'll let you know if I hear more.

SunWuKung420 posted...

Unlikely. No Philadelphian wants to be the person that died the day WE WON THE SUPERBOWL! SUCK IT NEW ENGLAND!

No one consciously wants to... but it can happen. Just look at half the incidents during Mardis Gras.
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Grendel Prime posted...

The talk around Boston is focused heavily on the decision to have Malcolm Butler suit up only to play one snap, and that came on a special teams play.

Big controversy given how poorly the Patriots defense, particularly the secondary, was performing.

People are wondering if Belichick held Butler back out of spite for whatever reason. A lot of the fans who thought that Wickersham article (about a rift in the Pats locker room) was bunk are now starting to wonder if it was true after all.

Supposedly he missed curfew and got caught with weed.
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blackhrt posted...

They're ready to let him go thats why he didn't play. Like they've always done before with their players regardless of what they previously did. Patriots are always cold hard math. So just like in a videogame where you unlock the level 25 weapon, you throw away or sell your level 23 weapon and you rarely think twice afterward about it.

Bullshit. Butler was on 1st team practice squad all week, and he played a ridiculous amount of snaps during the regular season. Theyre more than likely going to release him, yes. But theres something else going on with the Butler situation.

Would Butler alone have fixed the defense and saved the day? Highly doubtful. But the way their secondary was getting carved up, the Patriots wouldve put him in with the half-time adjustments except for this mystery situation. I mean, this wasnt some meaningless regular season game. It was the Super Bowl.

Im not willing to cry conspiracy, but there has to be more to the Butler thing than cold hard math
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I guess there was no Super Bowl Clueless Gamer this year. I know that they were gonna make a spinoff show for it but I thought Conan would also do his own segments still. Oh well, it hasn't been as good anymore so if it's over then at least it had a good run (I mean Clueless Gamer in general, not just the SB ones)

I really enjoyed the early Clueless Gamer segments when it was just him and Aaron. The celebrity versions have their moments, and I'm sure they bring in a wider audience, but it's just not the same.

Far-Queue posted...

blackhrt posted...

They're ready to let him go thats why he didn't play. Like they've always done before with their players regardless of what they previously did. Patriots are always cold hard math. So just like in a videogame where you unlock the level 25 weapon, you throw away or sell your level 23 weapon and you rarely think twice afterward about it.

Bullshit. Butler was on 1st team practice squad all week, and he played a ridiculous amount of snaps during the regular season. Theyre more than likely going to release him, yes. But theres something else going on with the Butler situation.

Would Butler alone have fixed the defense and saved the day? Highly doubtful. But the way their secondary was getting carved up, the Patriots wouldve put him in with the half-time adjustments except for this mystery situation. I mean, this wasnt some meaningless regular season game. It was the Super Bowl.

Im not willing to cry conspiracy, but there has to be more to the Butler thing than cold hard math

Im not saying that we shouldn't feel bad for Butler. But a business cares about charts and graphs, not emotions. Im just going off their large sample size of players they've let go when they did. I hope any Patriots fans haven't gotten too chummy with Gronkowski....
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Ultima_Dragoon posted...

I really enjoyed the early Clueless Gamer segments when it was just him and Aaron. The celebrity versions have their moments, and I'm sure they bring in a wider audience, but it's just not the same.

Yeah I stopped watching them after a while. He also became too good at games eventually which I guess was inevitable.

Conan gives zero shits about video games so it's hard for me to believe he ever got competent at them

He played enough games that he started to figure them out. He's not good or anything but he's not baffled by them anymore either. There's a big difference when you know what to do with a controller and all that.

Did they always used to be sponsored too? Maybe they were (when he was playing a new game, which is most of the time), but they've been way more overt about it lately and that kind of ruins it a bit for me.

This is the first Players Tribune article that didn't have a ghost writer (probably):
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/patrik-laine-winnipeg-jets-nhl/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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Lol Gamefaqs added an option to see active logins and end sessions. Like who the f really cares if their gfaqs account gets hacked

Sorry, I mean Gamefaqsgamespot

GfaqsGspot

No wonder I had trouble finding the new site

Didnt they have a Clueless Gamer? I thought they just released it a lot further ahead than they had before.
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STLCards1991 posted...

GfaqsGspot

Rockies posted...

No wonder I had trouble finding the new site

lmao
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Rockies posted...

No wonder I had trouble finding the new site

brilliant, chewy (and STLCards1991 for the buildup)

anyway, I came here to talk about the STL Blues goaltender situation, which I'm seeing for myself. 1 game sample size isn't big, but yeah.
Anyway let's go back to talking about G/T/C-spots

This topic is about sports, not spots

Oh shit, McDaniels is staying with the Patriots after all.

...does this mean Belichick will be gone sooner rather than later?
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chocoboslayer posted...

Oh shit, McDaniels is staying with the Patriots after all.

...does this mean Belichick will be gone sooner rather than later?

Great point...let's find out next time in Sports Discussion Topic #171

I assume McDaniels is mainly trying to take over for BB but I also can't blame him if he decided to run away from that dumpster fire Colts organization. That would've made 3/4 of the AFC South Belichick disciples

also, never forget
If I were a Jets fan (or an AFC east fan) I would hate this guy forever

Belichick had two different stints as the head coach of the New York Jets without ever coaching a game.

In February 1997, Belichick, who had been an assistant coach under Bill Parcells with the New York Giants and New England Patriots, was named the Jets interim head coach while the Jets and Patriots continued to negotiate compensation to release Parcells from his contract with the Patriots and allow Parcells to coach the Jets.[27] Six days later, the Patriots and Jets reached an agreement that allowed Parcells to coach the Jets, and Belichick became the team's assistant head coach and defensive coordinator.[28]

When Parcells stepped down as head coach in 1999, he had already arranged with team management to have Belichick succeed him. However, Belichick would be the New York Jets' head coach for only one day. When Belichick was introduced as head coach to the mediathe day after his hiring was publicizedhe turned it into a surprise-resignation announcement. Before taking the podium, he scrawled a resignation note on a sheet of loose leaf paper that read, in its entirety, "I resign as HC of the NYJ." He then delivered a half-hour speech explaining his resignation to the assembled press corps.[29]

Soon after this bizarre turn of events, he was introduced as the Patriots' 12th full-time head coach, succeeding the recently fired Pete Carroll. (The Patriots had tried to hire him away from Parcells/the Jets in the past.) Parcells and the Jets claimed that Belichick was still under contract to the Jets, and demanded compensation from the Patriots. NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue agreed, and the Patriots gave the Jets a first-round draft pick in 2000 in exchange for the right to hire Belichick.[30]

It's a pretty shitty thing to do, but I don't know why people want Belichick disciples. Haven't all of them so far failed? McDaniels was bad as coach of the Broncos. He's already failed once.

I think it's reasonable to give someone a second chance though. Josh McDaniels seems like an ass but not everyone gets it in their first try. Pete Carroll flunked out of the NFL once

Wow. 500 posts. What an achievement.