Poll of the Day > Instead of a wall, trump should make a canal

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Troll_Police_
01/18/18 12:48:41 PM
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think about it. it would increase trade and help the economy, cost waaaay less in materials, and create permanent jobs instead of temporary ones

on top of all of this, it would ensure that the border is constantly staffed with people which in turn reduces the options and opportunities for illegal immigration.

hell, on the mexican side it can mean a lot of the same stuff, and could help pull THEIR economy out of the crapper.

fuck panama, we dont need it.
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RCtheWSBC
01/18/18 12:55:37 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
it would increase trade and help the economy

Already lost you
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Andromicus
01/18/18 12:59:27 PM
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We should build a pyramid, we already got slave labor
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SunWuKung420
01/18/18 1:05:38 PM
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Wow, that's a colossally dumb idea.
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Judgmenl
01/18/18 1:07:46 PM
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You do understand that the wall isn't meant for the entire US-Mexico border right?
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RCtheWSBC
01/18/18 1:10:05 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
You do understand that the wall isn't meant for the entire US-Mexico border right?

No one understands because he keeps changing the description. First it's an entire wall, 30 feet high, then it's transparent so we can see bags flung across it, then it's just reinforcing the current fence, then briefly it's admitting we don't even need a wall, and now this week I guess it's back to having a full wall. All paid for by a foreign government somehow.

Okay.
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Troll_Police_
01/18/18 1:14:43 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
it would increase trade and help the economy

Already lost you


1. Faster shipping from east cost to west coast
2. a faster easier trip from the west coast to europe
3. a faster easier trip from the east coast to asia.

its really not that complicated buddy

Judgmenl posted...
You do understand that the wall isn't meant for the entire US-Mexico border right?


i do, which is why a canal is an infinitely better idea since it WOULD span the entire border while still being less expensive to build and maintain.
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DirtBasedSoap
01/18/18 1:15:38 PM
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OMG I READ THE OP AS ANAL LMAO I HATE DRUMPF xD
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RCtheWSBC
01/18/18 1:17:09 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
its really not that complicated buddy

Sorry, you couldn't just say "it'll help the economy" without going into specific details of why.
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Zeus
01/18/18 1:41:24 PM
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That'd probably make things worse on the whole since you're creating a lot of activity where people can reasonably slip through.

RCtheWSBC posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
its really not that complicated buddy

Sorry, you couldn't just say "it'll help the economy" without going into specific details of why.


Does infrastructure not help the economy now? >_> He's talking about adding what amounts to a shipping lane. Granted, to some extent that would offset existing transport.
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slacker03150
01/18/18 1:45:34 PM
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I don't know about it being less expensive. Building a canal big enough for shipping boats to go through would be a colossal undertaking. Mexico might be willing to chip in for it in exchange for some profits from the eventual taxes and fares, but it is still not exactly a cheap project. That said I could be persuaded to support a canal over a wall because at least a canal would have uses.

Also not an expert on the subject, but could a canal used for shipping also be outfitted with some kind of hydropower equipment for a dual purpose undertaking?
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Troll_Police_
01/18/18 1:50:35 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
its really not that complicated buddy

Sorry, you couldn't just say "it'll help the economy" without going into specific details of why.


the details to why ought to be readily apparent to anyone who has ever seen a globe. goddamn.
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Troll_Police_
01/18/18 1:52:55 PM
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slacker03150 posted...
Also not an expert on the subject, but could a canal used for shipping also be outfitted with some kind of hydropower equipment for a dual purpose undertaking?


that actually sounds pretty damn smart there

fuck the solar panels, hydro power is more consistent anyways
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RCtheWSBC
01/18/18 1:55:34 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
its really not that complicated buddy

Sorry, you couldn't just say "it'll help the economy" without going into specific details of why.


the details to why ought to be readily apparent to anyone who has ever seen a globe. goddamn.

An answer of "it'll help because it'll help" wouldn't fly in my economics classes >__> yes, it helps to specify in which ways (domestic and international markets, GDP,, labor, etc.)
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ZiggiStardust
01/18/18 1:56:51 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
An answer of "it'll help because it'll help" wouldn't fly in my economics classes...

i didn't realize this was a classroom! i just thought it was a video game message board. stupid me, ok?
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darkknight109
01/18/18 2:11:47 PM
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Didn't think someone could come up with a more disruptive, more expensive, and less effective way to create a border barrier than Trump's wall, but here we are...
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RCtheWSBC
01/18/18 2:15:36 PM
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ZiggiStardust posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...
An answer of "it'll help because it'll help" wouldn't fly in my economics classes...

i didn't realize this was a classroom! i just thought it was a video game message board. stupid me, ok?

I still think "it'll help" without any further explanation is p vague. If I didn't ask, I'd hope someone else would have. And then he provided some of his reasoning, so there we go!
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faramir77
01/18/18 2:21:48 PM
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How does it feel to have a president that not only puts his ego of being right above common sense and reason, but also doesn't know that ladders exist.
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OhhhJa
01/18/18 2:59:38 PM
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RC and darkknight are just triggered at the mere mention of the wall
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RCtheWSBC
01/18/18 3:00:23 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
RC and darkknight are just triggered at the mere mention of the wall

That's a mature response to a legitimate line of inquiry >_>
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Troll_Police_
01/18/18 4:30:48 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
OhhhJa posted...
RC and darkknight are just triggered at the mere mention of the wall

That's a mature response to a legitimate line of inquiry >_>


but it wasnt a legitimate line of inquiry
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RCtheWSBC
01/18/18 4:33:41 PM
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Yes it was...
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gravy
01/18/18 4:33:47 PM
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Let's just annex Mexico. Problem solved.

Can't have illegal immigrants if they're all American!
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Troll_Police_
01/18/18 4:34:04 PM
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faramir77 posted...
How does it feel to have a president that not only puts his ego of being right above common sense and reason, but also doesn't know that ladders exist.


better than it feels to have a president/primeminister/whatever that 99% of the world cant even name because they are irrelevant to global politics
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faramir77
01/18/18 4:41:41 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
faramir77 posted...
How does it feel to have a president that not only puts his ego of being right above common sense and reason, but also doesn't know that ladders exist.


better than it feels to have a president/primeminister/whatever that 99% of the world cant even name because they are irrelevant to global politics


trump is relevant to global politics ahahahahahaahahaha
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dragon504
01/18/18 4:41:52 PM
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Do you even realize how expensive it would be to make a canal that long, let alone one large enough to be used for shipping? Even if you eventually tied it into the Rio Grande, it would be one of the biggest construction projects ever. Unless I'm missing something here.
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Troll_Police_
01/18/18 4:44:16 PM
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faramir77 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
faramir77 posted...
How does it feel to have a president that not only puts his ego of being right above common sense and reason, but also doesn't know that ladders exist.


better than it feels to have a president/primeminister/whatever that 99% of the world cant even name because they are irrelevant to global politics


trump is relevant to global politics ahahahahahaahahaha


what country are you from?

because it seems like youre not from the US, but you still spending an awful lot of time talking about him.

do you think people talk about your countries leaders as often as you talk about trump?

ive got news for you: they dont.
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RCtheWSBC
01/18/18 4:47:38 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
do you think people talk about your countries leaders as often as you talk about trump?

Is this assuming a positive correlation between talking about a politician and their reputation?
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Troll_Police_
01/18/18 4:51:21 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
do you think people talk about your countries leaders as often as you talk about trump?

Is this assuming a positive correlation between talking about a politician and their reputation?


this is assuming a positive correlation between talking about a nation's leader and that nation's relevance on the world stage.
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OhhhJa
01/18/18 5:04:04 PM
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I'd estimate that about 99% of leftists mention Trump at least once a day. Some people would call that an obsession
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RCtheWSBC
01/18/18 5:05:32 PM
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I estimate that 100% of people who like pickles are susceptible to depression. It's a real concern.
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Jen0125
01/18/18 5:06:10 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
I estimate that 100% of people who like pickles are susceptible to depression. It's a real concern.


It's true. I'm living proof.
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RCtheWSBC
01/18/18 5:06:42 PM
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Hey, that's enough of a sample size for me.
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Jen0125
01/18/18 5:09:11 PM
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how does a canal in mexico help travel times to europe and asia
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RCtheWSBC
01/18/18 5:10:17 PM
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Apparently asking for analytical details of a large-scale infrastructural project isn't serious inquiry
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SunWuKung420
01/18/18 5:13:17 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
Apparently asking for analytical details of a large-scale infrastructural project isn't serious inquiry


I especially love how schmen thinks building a massive shipping canal with locks is cheaper than a wall.
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CacciatoPart2
01/18/18 5:14:23 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I'd estimate that about 99% of leftists mention Trump at least once a day. Some people would call that an obsession

As opposed to Obama and people in the Republican Party when he was president?
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faramir77
01/18/18 5:16:59 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
because it seems like youre not from the US, but you still spending an awful lot of time talking about him.


"why are you talking about trump in a topic about trump"
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Nightengale
01/18/18 5:26:59 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
how does a canal in mexico help travel times to europe and asia

Because the canal will flow into the sea and make the boats go faster its just physics duh
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OhhhJa
01/18/18 5:30:46 PM
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CacciatoPart2 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
I'd estimate that about 99% of leftists mention Trump at least once a day. Some people would call that an obsession

As opposed to Obama and people in the Republican Party when he was president?

Oh yeah, the obsession is quite a bit larger scale... You don't think it is?
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Jen0125
01/18/18 5:47:03 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Oh yeah, the obsession is quite a bit larger scale... You don't think it is?


no? republicans acted exactly the same toward Obama. that's how it is every cycle.
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Krazy_Kirby
01/18/18 5:49:17 PM
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or they just swim across even easier.

btw, hillary wanted to build a wall at one point as well.
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OhhhJa
01/18/18 6:05:31 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Oh yeah, the obsession is quite a bit larger scale... You don't think it is?


no? republicans acted exactly the same toward Obama. that's how it is every cycle.

Naw the Trump craze is waaaay bigger
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Yellow
01/18/18 6:10:48 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
it would increase trade and help the economy

VDS4FPG
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Sarcasthma
01/18/18 6:13:54 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I'd estimate that about 99% of leftists mention Trump at least once a day. Some people would call that an obsession

Same with people on the right and Obama. Shit never changes.
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dancer62
01/18/18 6:31:44 PM
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Yep, it could be called "Big River", or Rio Grande!
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Sarcasthma
01/18/18 7:12:51 PM
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dancer62 posted...
Yep, it could be called "Big River", or Rio Grande!

How about Rio Naranja?
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Jen0125
01/18/18 7:35:27 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Jen0125 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Oh yeah, the obsession is quite a bit larger scale... You don't think it is?


no? republicans acted exactly the same toward Obama. that's how it is every cycle.

Naw the Trump craze is waaaay bigger


except for that trump is elected and repubs still can't keep obama and hillary out of their mouth

hillary didn't even win

get over it
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Blighboy
01/18/18 7:53:26 PM
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Don't you remember Libs constantly deflecting to McCain and Romney for 8 years?
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Zeus
01/18/18 8:03:01 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
its really not that complicated buddy

Sorry, you couldn't just say "it'll help the economy" without going into specific details of why.


the details to why ought to be readily apparent to anyone who has ever seen a globe. goddamn.

An answer of "it'll help because it'll help" wouldn't fly in my economics classes >__> yes, it helps to specify in which ways (domestic and international markets, GDP,, labor, etc.)


If it wasn't obvious enough, I already spelled it out further way back in my response but whatever.

dragon504 posted...
Do you even realize how expensive it would be to make a canal that long, let alone one large enough to be used for shipping? Even if you eventually tied it into the Rio Grande, it would be one of the biggest construction projects ever. Unless I'm missing something here.


Yeah, that would be a phenomenally large project although I'm sure it might eventually pay off. That would take far more than one presidency, though. And it's not a particularly good deterrent, among other logistical issues.
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