Board 8 > Jeff Zero/Leonhart in Different Houses: The Disappearance of Jeff Zero [JZLF]

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Jeff Zero posted...

and I give kateee free reign to post about Estelleee

you're lucky your name's still in the title

speaking of which

since I'm very nearly done with Mario Odyssey that means very soon I shall be able to return to playing Skies of Arcadia (and Trails FC too)
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where are you in FC
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Eh I just took it as Haruhi being Haruhi.

Flawed characters that act like real humans is just my thing I guess.
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Jeff Zero posted...

where are you in FC

Zeiss.

pjbasis posted...

Eh I just took it as Haruhi being Haruhi.

Flawed characters that act like real humans is just my thing I guess.

if you know real people who act like Haruhi did in that scene they should probably be in jail or a mental institution

again I love Haruhi but that scene is awful
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LeonhartFour posted...

I do wonder if the anime keeps going if the backlash to Endless Eight wasn't what it was

It probably didn't really change anything in the end. It's not like fans gave up on the series due to Endless Eight. They went on to watch Disappearance and it was very popular. The Yuki-chan anime also showed that there was a willingness to produce more Haruhi related anime if Kadokawa had a manga or light novel to promote. The problem is that there aren't any new mainline Haruhi light novels to promote.
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I mean if the goal of the author was for us to just laugh at her antics then I'd say it was a bad decision, but I like when you can see the two sides of the same trait. (Haruhi is selfish and gets what she wants, which should be rightly portrayed to be celebrated and scorned)
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then give me season 2 of the Yuki Nagato anime

or give me more Haruhi-chan (since apparently the manga that just came out was the last one)

seriously all the spinoff stuff is ending so bring back the mainline series
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pjbasis posted...

I mean if the goal of the author was for us to just laugh at her antics then I'd say it was a bad decision, but I like when you can see the two sides of the same trait. (Haruhi is selfish and gets what she wants, which should be rightly portrayed to be celebrated and scorned)

okay sure

Haruhi comes a long way from that scene and I can recognize that

it's still an awful scene
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LeonhartFour posted...

if you know real people who act like Haruhi did in that scene they should probably be in jail or a mental institution

Uh...no? Blackmail/entrapment for some computer equipment isn't THAT extreme. I think the show treated it perhaps too lightly, but that's it.
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pjbasis posted...

Uh...no? Blackmail/entrapment for some computer equipment isn't THAT extreme.

note to self: never hang out with pjbasis or any of his friends
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And yeah HxH 2011 happened because the author returned for more chapters. The Haruhi hiatus needs to end before they make more.
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LeonhartFour posted...

pjbasis posted...

Uh...no? Blackmail/entrapment for some computer equipment isn't THAT extreme.

note to self: never hang out with pjbasis or any of his friends

Lol don't hang out with Leon or he'll think you deserve prison time or something hyperbolic.
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I mean where do you think Jeff Zero really is right now
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##JeffZerodidntdoanythingwrong
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unfortunately I have the photos to "prove" otherwise

and a fancy new computer
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i look back on Endless Eight with a certain fondness now but i watched it when it aired as soon as anybody subbed it and those weeks were rough. it wasn't even like i was mad, just desperately attempting to console myself and rationalize that what was happening was okay.

LeonhartFour posted...

I do wonder if the anime keeps going if the backlash to Endless Eight wasn't what it was

i'd still maintain that if any external factors were indeed contributing factors as to why S3 never happened, the Aya Hirano scandal had more to do with it than the Endless Eight backlash. S2/Endless Eight was 2009 but Disappearance was 2010 and still very positively received. if there were any talks of a S3 at the time of the scandal in 2011, i'd imagine the people involved wouldn't be as keen to work on it at the moment. and by the time it had blown over, it seemed like the ship had sailed.

If you can't unmake the universe on a whim you don't scare me.
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Finished Chaos;Child's True End.

This was a really excellent game (and end.) Really strong characters, main plot was integrated well, the ending branches were extremely well done (as in the routes themselves), music was great. All in all, just a very great experience.

I'd be willing to discuss anything more in-depth if anyone wants, but as is I just wouldn't know where to go really. Just really enjoyed it.

only problem is i was denied a platinum because somehow the game things i'm missing a positive delusion(s). got the trophy for all negative ones but something must have happened or one is hidden really, really well.

Updated 2017 Games Ranking~
1. Trails in the Sky The 3rd
2a. Chaos;Child
2b. Nier Automata (Nier Automata was originally 2. Then 2a. Then I realized if there was a 2a then Nier had to be 2b.)
4. Tales of Berseria
5. .hack//G.U. Last Recode
6. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
7. Persona 5
8. Danganronpa V3

Still to be played in this ~year of miracles~
Xenoblade 2
Tokyo Xanadu ex+
i dunno maybe other stuff

Persona 5 and up could be GotY in most other years. lmao 2017. persona 5 might struggle to make top 10 for the year when it's all said and done lmao
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xp1337 posted...

Persona 5 and up could be GotY in most other years.

Which other years? 2010 to 2016?
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Which other years? 2010 to 2016?

2016 had FFXV, Uncharted 4, and Spirit of Justice.

2013 had Dual Destinies.

2012 had Mass Effect 3 and Virtue's Last Reward.

2011 had Sonic Generations and Uncharted 3.

2010 had Mario Galaxy 2, Birth by Sleep, Super Street Fighter IV, Final Fantasy XIII, and Mass Effect 2.

Persona 5 can have 2014 and 2015, I guess.
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xp1337 posted...

Still to be played in this ~year of miracles~
Tokyo Xanadu ex+

Has anyone here played this game by the way? Is it any good? Been thinking of trying this out.
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P5 is not beating Witcher 3 in 2015 lol
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I never played Witcher 3, so I can't judge how Persona 5 stacks up against it.
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Witcher 3 is definitely better.

I think Id take P5 over everything I played in 2016, 2014 and 2013 out of the past 5 years.
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Speaking of Persona, it's a Merry Christmas with new trailers for the P3 and P5 rhythm games!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUvAGuMAFUM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rnD1MArHx4

gotta admit Jeff Zero's Persona waifu Fuuka (waifuuka?) looks kinda adorable there
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actually I'm thinking once I finish up with Odyssey, I might finally play all the FFXV DLC Episodes now that they're all out
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Oh hey I hadn't tagged this topic. Persona 5 is GotY and would be most other years. My ranking.

7. Sonic Mania
6. Sonic Forces
5. Kingdom Hearts 0.2
4. Nier Automata
3. Horizon Zero Dawn
2. Tales of Berseria
1. Persona 5

Nothing more hype than Life will change. Nothing feels better than the victory lap on the last day.

No Switch so can't talk about that.

Also I hope Leon ends up in Team Fate/Stay Night > Fate/Zero
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BK_Sheikah00 posted...

Also I hope Leon ends up in Team Fate/Stay Night > Fate/Zero

They'd have to utterly botch the last few episodes for this not to happen.

Rider will still be the best character between them both though.
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Well I also think Fate/Stay Night > Fate/Zero, but it's mostly because of Heaven's Feel. Not sure if you want to count me as a team member or not.

A full ranking probably looks like: Heaven's Feel > Fate/Zero > Fate > Unlimited Blade Works
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Oh hey that's my ranking too
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I gotta avert my eyes on all this Fate/Stay Night stuff

Anyway thoughts pending
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Jeff Zero posted...

I gotta avert my eyes on all this Fate/Stay Night stuff

Anyway thoughts pending

I don't understand it all myself
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I blitzed through episodes 11 through 17 or so of Fate/Zero. I was telling Leon last night that it's super-strange to me how, like, the first season has a lot of exposition going on and not a lot of straightforward confrontation and/or climax up until the tail end of the thirteenth and final episode. Just seemed so alien to me. Usually something really big builds in the last couple of episodes, you know? But then he looked up the air dates and apparently it was like a couple of months max between seasons so nevermind. This is pretty chill then.

But seriously? Comparing 10-12 to like 15-17 is insane. So much stuff hits the boiling point. I'll start with the most recent (and most constantly telegraphed) death, which is Tohsaka's of course. Kirei killing him honestly could have been foreshadowed in a single darn scene instead of several but then we wouldn't have so much amusing Kirei/Gilgamesh lulz where the dialogue kicks it to next-level absurdity with awkward pauses and treatises on joy galore. I need this in my veins so it's OK. Kirei is so weird though, isn't he? Wild card theory is that Gilgamesh ends up betraying him too but I don't know. According to @Eddv one of these jokers becomes, uh, Shoujo or something and me not knowing who that is/what that means is the equivalent to watching the Star Wars prequels oblivious to Palpatine soooo shrug. We'll see!

(Also OP2 makes it look like Kiritsugu and Kirei fuse a la Digimon's fourth season so maybe they collectively become Shoujo... ahaha, no. But maybe? But no.)

Speaking of loudspeaker foreshadowing, I boldly predict that Iri might die before this show has ended.

Speaking of death, what a way to go out, Lancer! Man. You see Caster all blissful in the pending light of EX...! CALIBUUUUR! but then Lancer gets such a raw deal. He hates everybody and his eyes go yellow. Dang. Is this guy gonna be a problem in Fate/Stay Night? Poor soul. RIP JYB too. Ryunosuke was so happy seeing his own blood. :3 :3 :3 Nice guy. Bit odd?

Draco Malfoy Archibald and his snake wife Soulja Gurl got played like fiddles to Kiritsugu's cunning when Maiya shot 'em point-blank. Can't say I feel bad they're dead (not that we're supposed to) but that chat between Kiritsugu and Saber after is rough tides, yo. I bet it's quoted by 15-year-old 30-year-olds on every anime subforum known to man because it sounds cool and open and crisp and meaningless, but Kiritsugu, what world are you even trying to save, here? Or does it turn out that it's Iri? Because your strange globalist-yet-purposeless approach to "I'm gonna save the world" is just so anime half-cocked, Lelouch-esque. I like you more than Leon does (you have a great design, okay?!) but #SaberWasRight.

The past few episodes have been such a splendid whirlwind that I almost forgot to tell you Papa Priest Man Kotomine is dead too. Man, when Malfoy shot him outta the blue it was such a great moment. You know what else was a great moment? Kirei "Crispin" Kotomine smirking into the reflection of the blade his master gives him just before killing him dead. Poor Tohsaka. Leon raised a great point that Kariya really should have told him precisely what his daughter Sakura is going through, what with the worms and stuff. He was misguided but he seemed to truly love his children, y'know? Ah well. What's done is done.
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Yeah, like I said, season 2 doesn't mess around. I think I'd have liked Kiritsugu more if he had shown more affection to Irisviel instead of cheating on her with Maiya. Like, they really pulled out all the "rub me the wrong way" traits for this guy.

But yes, Saberwasright
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the first season is world building for those that haven't read FSN

there's tons of fanservice for people that are familiar with the universe, like the Rin episode or Saber's first words after getting summoned
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Oh, I should clarify, I thought episodes 2 through 8 or so of Fate/Zero had a ton of great confrontations and action and all that jazz. I was just surprised to be hitting the end of the first season and then finding that that's when stuff slowed down!

I will also note that I'm pretty much jumping straight to F/SN UBW afterward.

Leonhart4 posted...

Yeah, like I said, season 2 doesn't mess around. I think I'd have liked Kiritsugu more if he had shown more affection to Irisviel instead of cheating on her with Maiya. Like, they really pulled out all the "rub me the wrong way" traits for this guy.

But yes, Saberwasright

The cheating-with-Maiya thing has been like five seconds tops that hasn't really gone anywhere else, at least not yet. Not saying it makes it better. Just saiyan, like, kinda super-random!
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All it takes is one time and there's clearly more than just partnership going on between them in their interactions.
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Top 5 Characters Right Now:
5. Ryunosuke
4. Kariya
3. Lancer
2. Rider
1. Saber
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GranzonEx posted...

there's tons of fanservice for people that are familiar with the universe, like the Rin episode or Saber's first words after getting summoned

Honestly my favorite part was Kiritsugu's interactions with Iri and Ilya in the first 1-2 episodes or whenever it was. So good.
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Yeah, I liked a lot of the stuff at the castle between the three of them, although the fact that he clearly from the start couldn't get along with Saber (who's as lawful good as it gets) raised some red flags.
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pyresword posted...

GranzonEx posted...

there's tons of fanservice for people that are familiar with the universe, like the Rin episode or Saber's first words after getting summoned

Honestly my favorite part was Kiritsugu's interactions with Iri and Ilya in the first 1-2 episodes or whenever it was. So good.

I kept smh when Illya talks about getting nightmares
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I like Kiritsugu but I can definitely see why you don't like him, Leon

Way better than Shirou though (who you're only seeing at 50% lameness by seeing UBW instead of the Fate route)
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Fate/stay in the kitchen is bad
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Well, Bryce Pappenbrook is the official VA of lame protagonists.

I'll still take him over Kiritsugu due to his stubborn insistence that he doesn't want to be like Kiritsugu, which is a fun irony considering he thinks of him as the inspiration for wanting to be a hero of justice even though he's nothing like his ideal
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Leonhart4 posted...

Well, Bryce Pappenbrook is the official VA of lame protagonists.

Man, people speaking that way of our lord and savior Kirito is unacceptable.
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Wow, episodes 18 and 19. OOMF
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Those episodes made me go OOMF too but for different reasons
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BK_Sheikah00 posted...

Leonhart4 posted...

Well, Bryce Pappenbrook is the official VA of lame protagonists.

Man, people speaking that way of our lord and savior Kirito is unacceptable.

Wow, Shirou, Kirito, and Makoto? This guy really is the king of lame MCs!
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He's also Eren Jaeger.

He is Zidane in Dissidia though so once in a while he gets a good one.
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Asbel Lhant is the lamest
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