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darkphoenix181 12/07/17 1:03:20 PM #1:	then many Muslim countries protested and he decided to not do it afterall infact, the Jewish leader Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated right before Bill was able to carry it out https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/12/06/in-1995-congress-reached-a-compromise-on-the-issue-of-jerusalem-trump-is-poised-to-end-it/ Ten days before he was assassinated in Tel Aviv, Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin gave a speech in Washington about the city of Jerusalem. Jerusalem is the heart of the Jewish people and a deep source of our pride, Rabin said at an event recognizing the 3,000th year of the citys existence. We differ in our opinions, left and right, he said as the speech concluded. We disagree on the means and the objective. In Israel, we all agree on one issue: the wholeness of Jerusalem, the continuation of its existence as capital of the State of Israel. There are no two Jerusalems. There is only one Jerusalem. For us, Jerusalem is not subject to compromise, and there is no peace without Jerusalem. The evening before his speech, the Congress of the United States passed a law echoing Rabins assertions about the city. Spurred by the desire to act before Rabins visit, the House and Senate passed a bill called the Jerusalem Embassy Act, which formally recognized the city as the countrys capital and called for the U.S. Embassy in Israel to be moved there from Tel Aviv by 1999. Support for the bill was overwhelming. It passed the Senate by a 93 to 5 vote, with four Republicans and one Democrat voting no. It passed the House 374 to 37, with 153 Democrats joining most of the new Republican majority that had swept into power in 1994. With varying intensity, friends and foes of the United States in the Arab world have portrayed the call as an unfortunate sign that the United States is not evenhanded when it comes to Middle Eastern peace, the New York Times reported a few days later. America claims to be a friend to the Arabs, but it is a truer friend of Israel, one cleric told the paper. The bill was not signed into law by then-President Bill Clinton. Clinton had made an early effort to craft a new peace agreement in the Middle East, forging the Oslo accords between Israel and Palestinians, signed in 1993 and September 1995. (Rabins support for the accords was apparently one of the things that motivated his assassin.) The Embassy Act, Clinton said in a statement, could hinder the peace process. I will not let this happen and will use the legislations waiver authority to avoid damage to the peace process. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:891759501] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>then many Muslim countries protested and he decided to not do it afterall infact, the Jewish leader Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated right before Bill was able to carry it out https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/12/06/in-1995-congress-reached-a-compromise-on-the-issue-of-jerusalem-trump-is-poised-to-end-it/ <quote>Ten days before he was assassinated in Tel Aviv, Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin gave a speech in Washington about the city of Jerusalem. Jerusalem is the heart of the Jewish people and a deep source of our pride, Rabin said at an event recognizing the 3,000th year of the citys existence. We differ in our opinions, left and right, he said as the speech concluded. We disagree on the means and the objective. In Israel, we all agree on one issue: the wholeness of Jerusalem, the continuation of its existence as capital of the State of Israel. There are no two Jerusalems. There is only one Jerusalem. For us, Jerusalem is not subject to compromise, and there is no peace without Jerusalem. The evening before his speech, the Congress of the United States passed a law echoing Rabins assertions about the city. Spurred by the desire to act before Rabins visit, the House and Senate passed a bill called the Jerusalem Embassy Act, which formally recognized the city as the countrys capital and called for the U.S. Embassy in Israel to be moved there from Tel Aviv by 1999. Support for the bill was overwhelming. It passed the Senate by a 93 to 5 vote, with four Republicans and one Democrat voting no. It passed the House 374 to 37, with 153 Democrats joining most of the new Republican majority that had swept into power in 1994. With varying intensity, friends and foes of the United States in the Arab world have portrayed the call as an unfortunate sign that the United States is not evenhanded when it comes to Middle Eastern peace, the New York Times reported a few days later. America claims to be a friend to the Arabs, but it is a truer friend of Israel, one cleric told the paper. The bill was not signed into law by then-President Bill Clinton. Clinton had made an early effort to craft a new peace agreement in the Middle East, forging the Oslo accords between Israel and Palestinians, signed in 1993 and September 1995. (Rabins support for the accords was apparently one of the things that motivated his assassin.) The Embassy Act, Clinton said in a statement, could hinder the peace process. I will not let this happen and will use the legislations waiver authority to avoid damage to the peace process.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 12/07/17 1:04:03 PM #2:	And Bill Clinton would have been wrong to do such a thing, so fucking what --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:891759553] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>And Bill Clinton would have been wrong to do such a thing, so fucking what</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 12/07/17 1:05:54 PM #3:	MC_BatCommander posted... And Bill Clinton would have been wrong to do such a thing, so fucking what What makes it wrong? Because one side will assassinate people over it? --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:891759676] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>And Bill Clinton would have been wrong to do such a thing, so fucking what</quote> What makes it wrong? Because one side will assassinate people over it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 12/07/17 1:07:08 PM #4:	darkphoenix181 posted... MC_BatCommander posted... And Bill Clinton would have been wrong to do such a thing, so fucking what What makes it wrong? Because one side will assassinate people over it? Because he wouldn't be negotiating with terrorists, which is for democrats. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:891759770] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>And Bill Clinton would have been wrong to do such a thing, so fucking what</quote> What makes it wrong? Because one side will assassinate people over it?</quote> Because he wouldn't be negotiating with terrorists, which is for democrats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 12/07/17 1:11:10 PM #5:	yes darkphoenix181 posted... What makes it wrong? Because one side will assassinate people over it? well, that and the policy was originally conceived in the 90s as a blatantly political move to give Bob Dole some kind of foreign policy bona fides going into the 96 election. to me, if something is being done for political purposes without an obvious benefit to us, and it will get people killed, that is bad. --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:891760018] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>yes <cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>What makes it wrong? Because one side will assassinate people over it?</quote> well, that and the policy was originally conceived in the 90s as a blatantly political move to give Bob Dole some kind of foreign policy bona fides going into the 96 election. to me, if something is being done for political purposes without an obvious benefit to us, and it will get people killed, that is bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 12/07/17 1:13:50 PM #6:	Balrog0 posted... well, that and the policy was originally conceived in the 90s as a blatantly political move to give Bob Dole some kind of foreign policy bona fides going into the 96 election. oh? I haven't researched it so you probably know more about it. Why then did the 153 house Democrats support it? And why was there only 1 Democrat Senator opposing it but 4 Republican Senators opposing it? --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:891760173] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote> well, that and the policy was originally conceived in the 90s as a blatantly political move to give Bob Dole some kind of foreign policy bona fides going into the 96 election.</quote> oh? I haven't researched it so you probably know more about it. Why then did the 153 house Democrats support it? And why was there only 1 Democrat Senator opposing it but 4 Republican Senators opposing it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 12/07/17 1:15:11 PM #8:	Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:891760262] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 12/07/17 1:25:35 PM #9:	darkphoenix181 posted... oh? I haven't researched it so you probably know more about it. Why then did the 153 house Democrats support it? And why was there only 1 Democrat Senator opposing it but 4 Republican Senators opposing it? because supporting israel is a popular position domestically, so it is hard to vote against positions that nominally support israel. and because it was passed with a clause in it that allowed the president to essentially ignore it, the way presidents have since then, they did not consider the cost too high, since Clinton could easily adopt the policy himself without retribution from arab allies in the region --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:891760821] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>oh? I haven't researched it so you probably know more about it. Why then did the 153 house Democrats support it? And why was there only 1 Democrat Senator opposing it but 4 Republican Senators opposing it?</quote> because supporting israel is a popular position domestically, so it is hard to vote against positions that nominally support israel. and because it was passed with a clause in it that allowed the president to essentially ignore it, the way presidents have since then, they did not consider the cost too high, since Clinton could easily adopt the policy himself without retribution from arab allies in the region</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 12/07/17 1:26:25 PM #10:	http://time.com/5049019/jerusalem-embassy-history/ Yet some saw the 1995 law and its implementation as having more to do with domestic American politics than the Middle East peace process. This is all about vote counting in the coming U.S. elections, Saeb Erakat, the Palestinian minister for local government, told TIME in 1995, adding that he believed supporting the bill would help Dole fundraise with Jewish groups in the 1996 presidential race. And as a TIME article later that year noted, Dole had in fact opposed the bill until this year, when hes running for President. granted, that source is biased but I think the article overal sort of makes his point --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:891760868] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>http://time.com/5049019/jerusalem-embassy-history/ Yet some saw the 1995 law and its implementation as having more to do with domestic American politics than the Middle East peace process. This is all about vote counting in the coming U.S. elections, Saeb Erakat, the Palestinian minister for local government, told TIME in 1995, adding that he believed supporting the bill would help Dole fundraise with Jewish groups in the 1996 presidential race. And as a TIME article later that year noted, Dole had in fact opposed the bill until this year, when hes running for President. granted, that source is biased but I think the article overal sort of makes his point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 12/07/17 1:27:25 PM #11:	Coffeebeanz posted... Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats. Did you travel from an alternate universe where that Franken guy isn't being ousted for assault allegations? --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:891760924] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats.</quote> Did you travel from an alternate universe where that Franken guy isn't being ousted for assault allegations?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 12/07/17 1:28:07 PM #12:	Could've been worse. He could've made Jerusalem the disembodied capital of Nebraska, and Omaha the capital of Israel. --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:891760962] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>Could've been worse. He could've made Jerusalem the disembodied capital of Nebraska, and Omaha the capital of Israel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 12/07/17 1:28:19 PM #13:	Coffeebeanz posted... Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats. Franken? Conyers? Meanwhile Trump? Moore? God you're such a fucking hack. Pity the poor individuals who have a loon like you as their doctor someday --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:891760976] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats.</quote> Franken? Conyers? Meanwhile Trump? Moore? God you're such a fucking hack. Pity the poor individuals who have a loon like you as their doctor someday</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 12/07/17 1:28:42 PM #14:	Chuck Schumer pushed for this two months ago, which feels more relevant --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:891761004] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>Chuck Schumer pushed for this two months ago, which feels more relevant</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSockMonster 12/07/17 1:28:46 PM #15:	Bill Clinton is a RAPIST INFOWARS (DOT) COM --- Tubesock Get off my chicken tenders. <cite>TheSockMonster posted [p:891761009] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>Bill Clinton is a RAPIST INFOWARS (DOT) COM</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 12/07/17 1:29:09 PM #16:	Antifar posted... Chuck Schumer pushed for this two months ago. wasn't the move from tel aviv to israel enshrined in the 2016 dem platform, too? I thought I heard about that. --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:891761031] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Chuck Schumer pushed for this two months ago.</quote> wasn't the move from tel aviv to israel enshrined in the 2016 dem platform, too? I thought I heard about that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 12/07/17 1:29:12 PM #17:	RebelElite791 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats. Franken? Conyers? Meanwhile Trump? Moore? God you're such a fucking hack. Pity the poor individuals who have a loom like you as their doctor someday They should all resign. What's your point, again? You already know I think Trump is a shitty president. It doesn't mean I have to drink the DNC Kool aid. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:891761032] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats.</quote> Franken? Conyers? Meanwhile Trump? Moore? God you're such a fucking hack. Pity the poor individuals who have a loom like you as their doctor someday</quote> They should all resign. What's your point, again? You already know I think Trump is a shitty president. It doesn't mean I have to drink the DNC Kool aid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wolf_J_Flywheel 12/07/17 1:29:17 PM #18:	Did you know Jerusalem is the capital of Israel? A US president doesn't make it the capital. --- Those who act like sheep, will be eaten by wolves http://i.imgur.com/n1L1yBu.jpg <cite>Wolf_J_Flywheel posted [p:891761037] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>Did you know Jerusalem is the capital of Israel? A US president doesn't make it the capital.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 12/07/17 1:30:22 PM #19:	Coffeebeanz posted... RebelElite791 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats. Franken? Conyers? Meanwhile Trump? Moore? God you're such a fucking hack. Pity the poor individuals who have a loom like you as their doctor someday They should all resign. What's your point, again? You said "rules don't apply to Democrats," who are currently the only ones following said "rules," unlike your fucking Cheeto messiah. --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:891761096] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats.</quote> Franken? Conyers? Meanwhile Trump? Moore? God you're such a fucking hack. Pity the poor individuals who have a loom like you as their doctor someday</quote> They should all resign. What's your point, again?</quote> You said "rules don't apply to Democrats," who are currently the only ones following said "rules," unlike your fucking Cheeto messiah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 12/07/17 1:31:04 PM #20:	Balrog0 posted... wasn't the move from tel aviv to israel enshrined in the 2016 dem platform, too? I thought I heard about that. Yup. Been there since 92, but in 2016 it was one of the many issues where Clinton delegates outnumbered Sanders backers' objections. https://twitter.com/JonathanCohn/status/938219373831090176 --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:891761145] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>wasn't the move from tel aviv to israel enshrined in the 2016 dem platform, too? I thought I heard about that. </quote> Yup. Been there since 92, but in 2016 it was one of the many issues where Clinton delegates outnumbered Sanders backers' objections. https://twitter.com/JonathanCohn/status/938219373831090176</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RebelElite791 12/07/17 1:32:40 PM #22:	CrimsonRage posted... When did Coffeebeanz go full derp Soon as Trump got the nomination she went full tinfoil nut. Also one of those who claims to not be a supporter of his but went out of her way to gush over him nonstop --- http://i.imgur.com/MS5SvzN.gif https://i.imgur.com/ahQpG57.jpg <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:891761231] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>When did Coffeebeanz go full derp</quote> Soon as Trump got the nomination she went full tinfoil nut. Also one of those who claims to not be a supporter of his but went out of her way to gush over him nonstop</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 12/07/17 1:32:53 PM #23:	RebelElite791 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... RebelElite791 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats. Franken? Conyers? Meanwhile Trump? Moore? God you're such a fucking hack. Pity the poor individuals who have a loom like you as their doctor someday They should all resign. What's your point, again? You said "rules don't apply to Democrats," who are currently the only ones following said "rules," unlike your fucking Cheeto messiah. I voted for Gary Johnson. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:891761246] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats.</quote> Franken? Conyers? Meanwhile Trump? Moore? God you're such a fucking hack. Pity the poor individuals who have a loom like you as their doctor someday</quote> They should all resign. What's your point, again?</quote> You said "rules don't apply to Democrats," who are currently the only ones following said "rules," unlike your fucking Cheeto messiah.</quote> I voted for Gary Johnson.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 12/07/17 1:34:25 PM #24:	RebelElite791 posted... CrimsonRage posted... When did Coffeebeanz go full derp Soon as Trump got the nomination she went full tinfoil nut. Also one of those who claims to not be a supporter of his but went out of her way to gush over him nonstop You know, "people I disagree with must be insane" is a pretty dumb way to live. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:891761339] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CrimsonRage posted...</cite> <quote>When did Coffeebeanz go full derp</quote> Soon as Trump got the nomination she went full tinfoil nut. Also one of those who claims to not be a supporter of his but went out of her way to gush over him nonstop</quote> You know, "people I disagree with must be insane" is a pretty dumb way to live.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 12/07/17 1:34:56 PM #25:	Coffeebeanz posted... I voted for Gary Johnson. me too! I still have a johnson 2016 sign in my yard --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:891761369] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>I voted for Gary Johnson.</quote> me too! I still have a johnson 2016 sign in my yard</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 12/07/17 1:38:17 PM #26:	Balrog0 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... I voted for Gary Johnson. me too! I still have a johnson 2016 sign in my yard If Republicans weren't a bunch of hypocritical religious nutjobs with socially ass-backwards policies, they might do better with my type. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:891761520] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>I voted for Gary Johnson.</quote> me too! I still have a johnson 2016 sign in my yard</quote> If Republicans weren't a bunch of hypocritical religious nutjobs with socially ass-backwards policies, they might do better with my type.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 12/07/17 1:39:07 PM #27:	Balrog0 posted... yes darkphoenix181 posted... What makes it wrong? Because one side will assassinate people over it? well, that and the policy was originally conceived in the 90s as a blatantly political move to give Bob Dole some kind of foreign policy bona fides going into the 96 election. to me, if something is being done for political purposes without an obvious benefit to us, and it will get people killed, that is bad. That's my main thing. How does it benefit us? Or I could hear "it's the right thing to do" a hundred more times which in itself is a ridiculous cop out that ignores almost every aspect of the decision. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:891761558] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>yes <cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>What makes it wrong? Because one side will assassinate people over it?</quote> well, that and the policy was originally conceived in the 90s as a blatantly political move to give Bob Dole some kind of foreign policy bona fides going into the 96 election. to me, if something is being done for political purposes without an obvious benefit to us, and it will get people killed, that is bad.</quote> That's my main thing. How does it benefit us? Or I could hear "it's the right thing to do" a hundred more times which in itself is a ridiculous cop out that ignores almost every aspect of the decision.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/07/17 1:39:17 PM #28:	RebelElite791 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats. Franken? Conyers? Meanwhile Trump? Moore? God you're such a fucking hack. Pity the poor individuals who have a loon like you as their doctor someday To be fair, democrats wouldn't have had such a reaction to Franken and Conyers had Moore and Trump not also been accused of things. It's an effort to seize the moral high ground and appear more virtuous, it isn't being done because it's the right thing. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891761566] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats.</quote> Franken? Conyers? Meanwhile Trump? Moore? God you're such a fucking hack. Pity the poor individuals who have a loon like you as their doctor someday</quote> To be fair, democrats wouldn't have had such a reaction to Franken and Conyers had Moore and Trump not also been accused of things. It's an effort to seize the moral high ground and appear more virtuous, it isn't being done because it's the right thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 12/07/17 1:42:56 PM #29:	MC_BatCommander posted... And Bill Clinton would have been wrong to do such a thing, so fucking what Wrong because terrorists who hate Jews would be mad and kill people? How can you actually think this way? --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:891761814] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>And Bill Clinton would have been wrong to do such a thing, so fucking what</quote> Wrong because terrorists who hate Jews would be mad and kill people? How can you actually think this way?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 12/07/17 1:43:33 PM #30:	KazumaKiryu posted... Wrong because terrorists who hate Jews would be mad and kill people? How can you actually think this way? yes, this is an accurate description of the palestine v israel conflict entirely --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:891761855] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>Wrong because terrorists who hate Jews would be mad and kill people? How can you actually think this way?</quote> yes, this is an accurate description of the palestine v israel conflict entirely</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 12/07/17 1:43:48 PM #31:	Politicians are humans, and humans are hypocrites. Doesn't matter what letter is next to your name. At some point you realize that choosing sides politically is just choosing which pawn you want to be. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:891761867] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>Politicians are humans, and humans are hypocrites. Doesn't matter what letter is next to your name. At some point you realize that choosing sides politically is just choosing which pawn you want to be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu 12/07/17 1:45:00 PM #32:	Balrog0 posted... KazumaKiryu posted... Wrong because terrorists who hate Jews would be mad and kill people? How can you actually think this way? yes, this is an accurate description of the palestine v israel conflict entirely Thank you. --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. <cite>KazumaKiryu posted [p:891761965] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>Wrong because terrorists who hate Jews would be mad and kill people? How can you actually think this way?</quote> yes, this is an accurate description of the palestine v israel conflict entirely</quote> Thank you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 12/07/17 1:48:07 PM #33:	KazumaKiryu posted... MC_BatCommander posted... And Bill Clinton would have been wrong to do such a thing, so fucking what Wrong because terrorists who hate Jews would be mad and kill people? How can you actually think this way? lol, pretty good rhetoric there --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:891762146] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>And Bill Clinton would have been wrong to do such a thing, so fucking what</quote> Wrong because terrorists who hate Jews would be mad and kill people? How can you actually think this way?</quote> lol, pretty good rhetoric there</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 12/07/17 2:17:14 PM #34:	Balrog0 posted... KazumaKiryu posted... Wrong because terrorists who hate Jews would be mad and kill people? How can you actually think this way? yes, this is an accurate description of the palestine v israel conflict entirely Palestine? You mean that imaginary fairy tale nation that never actually existed? Might as well be Agrabah. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:891763799] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KazumaKiryu posted...</cite> <quote>Wrong because terrorists who hate Jews would be mad and kill people? How can you actually think this way?</quote> yes, this is an accurate description of the palestine v israel conflict entirely</quote> Palestine? You mean that imaginary fairy tale nation that never actually existed? Might as well be Agrabah.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 12/07/17 2:21:14 PM #35:	Coffeebeanz posted... Balrog0 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... I voted for Gary Johnson. me too! I still have a johnson 2016 sign in my yard If Republicans weren't a bunch of hypocritical religious nutjobs with socially ass-backwards policies, they might do better with my type. Nah. Big government is big government - the R doesn't magically wave that away. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:891764004] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>I voted for Gary Johnson.</quote> me too! I still have a johnson 2016 sign in my yard</quote> If Republicans weren't a bunch of hypocritical religious nutjobs with socially ass-backwards policies, they might do better with my type.</quote> Nah. Big government is big government - the R doesn't magically wave that away.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/07/17 2:25:11 PM #36:	These articles are all misleading. Jerusalem is and has been the capital of Israel according to the Israelis who actually have claim over the land. All Trump did was recognize this. The only reason this hadn't been done previously was to placate and pacify groups that have publicly called for another Jewish genocide. Should be a wake up call to the people criticizing this move, BTW. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:891764220] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>These articles are all misleading. Jerusalem is and has been the capital of Israel according to the Israelis who actually have claim over the land. All Trump did was recognize this. The only reason this hadn't been done previously was to placate and pacify groups that have publicly called for another Jewish genocide. Should be a wake up call to the people criticizing this move, BTW.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 12/07/17 2:27:23 PM #37:	RebelElite791 posted... Coffeebeanz posted... Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats. Franken? Conyers? Meanwhile Trump? Moore? God you're such a fucking hack. Pity the poor individuals who have a loon like you as their doctor someday too bad Franken was heavily defended to the point of literal photographic evidence of groping being called by DNC supporters and not actually groping shows like the view ushered mental gymastics to support him and say he doesn't need to resign SNL had the staff make a petition saying they supported him people all over the place used the "BUT MOORE!" argument to say Franken didn't need to step down when the 2nd woman came out everyone was discrediting her it took more people coming out instead of literal photographic evidence to take out Franken because Coffee is right he was CHAMPION of women's rights according to his party and basically the rules didn't apply to him had the photo not existed, you can be sure he would not be resigning right now as he was considered by women who hate sexual assault as a darling; in others words Tweeden wouldn't have been listened to spurring the other 4 woman to come out a special case --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:891764335] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Coffeebeanz posted...</cite> <quote>Bill Clinton also abused his position of authority to sexually assault women. But the rules don't apply to Democrats.</quote> Franken? Conyers? Meanwhile Trump? Moore? God you're such a fucking hack. Pity the poor individuals who have a loon like you as their doctor someday</quote> too bad Franken was heavily defended to the point of literal photographic evidence of groping being called by DNC supporters and not actually groping shows like the view ushered mental gymastics to support him and say he doesn't need to resign SNL had the staff make a petition saying they supported him people all over the place used the "BUT MOORE!" argument to say Franken didn't need to step down when the 2nd woman came out everyone was discrediting her it took more people coming out instead of literal photographic evidence to take out Franken because Coffee is right he was CHAMPION of women's rights according to his party and basically the rules didn't apply to him had the photo not existed, you can be sure he would not be resigning right now as he was considered by women who hate sexual assault as a darling; in others words Tweeden wouldn't have been listened to spurring the other 4 woman to come out a special case</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/07/17 2:28:49 PM #38:	darkjedilink posted... Palestine? You mean that imaginary fairy tale nation that never actually existed? Palestine technically did exist, and the British owned the land in the early 20th century. They gave most of it to the Arabs as their homeland, which is now Jordan. The remainder was given to the Jews as Israel. Both the Arabs and Jews in that region were Palestinian. While almost no Jews had any interest in living in the Jordanian region, Arabs stayed in the Israeli region because the Jews actually improved the country and developed a viable economy. This is something the other countries in the region with hundreds of years of a head start were unable to do. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:891764415] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Palestine? You mean that imaginary fairy tale nation that never actually existed?</quote> Palestine technically did exist, and the British owned the land in the early 20th century. They gave most of it to the Arabs as their homeland, which is now Jordan. The remainder was given to the Jews as Israel. Both the Arabs and Jews in that region were Palestinian. While almost no Jews had any interest in living in the Jordanian region, Arabs stayed in the Israeli region because the Jews actually improved the country and developed a viable economy. This is something the other countries in the region with hundreds of years of a head start were unable to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 12/07/17 2:29:44 PM #39:	The Admiral posted... Arabs stayed in the Israeli region because the Jews actually improved the country and developed a viable economy yeah, jerusalem isn't important to islam or anything cmon man --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:891764465] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Arabs stayed in the Israeli region because the Jews actually improved the country and developed a viable economy</quote> yeah, jerusalem isn't important to islam or anything cmon man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/07/17 2:31:00 PM #40:	Trump didn't make it the capital, Israel did. all Trump did was recognize that fact. <cite>Zikten posted [p:891764543] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>Trump didn't make it the capital, Israel did. all Trump did was recognize that fact.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/07/17 2:31:58 PM #41:	Balrog0 posted... The Admiral posted... Arabs stayed in the Israeli region because the Jews actually improved the country and developed a viable economy yeah, jerusalem isn't important to islam or anything cmon man Jerusalem isn't relatively as close in importance to the Muslims as it is to the Jews and Christians. The most important Muslim cities are Mecca and Medina. The interest in Jerusalem is primarily because they see it as an abomination that Jews are allowed to occupy the region at all. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:891764587] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Arabs stayed in the Israeli region because the Jews actually improved the country and developed a viable economy</quote> yeah, jerusalem isn't important to islam or anything cmon man</quote> Jerusalem isn't relatively as close in importance to the Muslims as it is to the Jews and Christians. The most important Muslim cities are Mecca and Medina. The interest in Jerusalem is primarily because they see it as an abomination that Jews are allowed to occupy the region at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 12/07/17 2:33:25 PM #42:	The Admiral posted... Balrog0 posted... The Admiral posted... Arabs stayed in the Israeli region because the Jews actually improved the country and developed a viable economy yeah, jerusalem isn't important to islam or anything cmon man Jerusalem isn't relatively close in importance to the Muslims as it is to the Jews and Christians. The most important Muslim cities are Mecca and Medina. The interest in Jerusalem is because they see it as an abomination that Jews are allowed to occupy the region at all. The dome of the rock is hugely important to Muslims, dude --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:891764658] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Arabs stayed in the Israeli region because the Jews actually improved the country and developed a viable economy</quote> yeah, jerusalem isn't important to islam or anything cmon man</quote> Jerusalem isn't relatively close in importance to the Muslims as it is to the Jews and Christians. The most important Muslim cities are Mecca and Medina. The interest in Jerusalem is because they see it as an abomination that Jews are allowed to occupy the region at all.</quote> The dome of the rock is hugely important to Muslims, dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 12/07/17 2:33:50 PM #43:	Balrog0 posted... The Admiral posted... Arabs stayed in the Israeli region because the Jews actually improved the country and developed a viable economy yeah, jerusalem isn't important to islam or anything cmon man If they have no rightful claim to it does its importance to them matter at all? <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:891764681] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Arabs stayed in the Israeli region because the Jews actually improved the country and developed a viable economy</quote> yeah, jerusalem isn't important to islam or anything cmon man</quote> If they have no rightful claim to it does its importance to them matter at all?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/07/17 2:35:37 PM #44:	Dome of the Rock isn't THE most important site though. it's kinda messed up that Jews can't use their most sacred spot on the entire planet, just cause it would upset Muslims to delocate their like, 3rd most important spot. Basically, to Jews, it's more important than it is to Muslims. But just cause Muslims took over like a thousand years ago and staked a claim, they get to keep it. and they don't even want to share it. they try to keep Jews out of their own sacred site. and when Jews do show up, it causes protests and threats <cite>Zikten posted [p:891764761] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>Dome of the Rock isn't THE most important site though. it's kinda messed up that Jews can't use their most sacred spot on the entire planet, just cause it would upset Muslims to delocate their like, 3rd most important spot. Basically, to Jews, it's more important than it is to Muslims. But just cause Muslims took over like a thousand years ago and staked a claim, they get to keep it. and they don't even want to share it. they try to keep Jews out of their own sacred site. and when Jews do show up, it causes protests and threats</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 12/07/17 2:37:25 PM #45:	Balrog0 posted... The Admiral posted... Arabs stayed in the Israeli region because the Jews actually improved the country and developed a viable economy yeah, jerusalem isn't important to islam or anything cmon man this is kinda interesting because Mohammed still beleived that God led the Jews through the Exodus to take the land as a promise did he not? Like, even the biggest prophet recognized this was a Jewish city and it was theirs maybe he finds that later God changes his mind problem here though is if a secular state is considering history, they note that the prophet recognized it was a Jewish City and likely that it was only holy to him because it was first holy to them --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:891764859] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Arabs stayed in the Israeli region because the Jews actually improved the country and developed a viable economy</quote> yeah, jerusalem isn't important to islam or anything cmon man</quote> this is kinda interesting because Mohammed still beleived that God led the Jews through the Exodus to take the land as a promise did he not? Like, even the biggest prophet recognized this was a Jewish city and it was theirs maybe he finds that later God changes his mind problem here though is if a secular state is considering history, they note that the prophet recognized it was a Jewish City and likely that it was only holy to him because it was first holy to them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/07/17 2:38:55 PM #46:	darkphoenix181 posted... maybe he finds that later God changes his mind that. both in Islam and in Christianity, it's taught by the more old fashioned teachings that Jews lost their chosen status when they killed Jesus. <cite>Zikten posted [p:891764945] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>maybe he finds that later God changes his mind</quote> that. both in Islam and in Christianity, it's taught by the more old fashioned teachings that Jews lost their chosen status when they killed Jesus.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 12/07/17 2:41:05 PM #47:	Yes really I have no problem with making Jerusalem Israel's capital. It should happen eventually. While I am aware there will never be a perfect time to make that move I feel that now is one of the worst times to do it. Plus there are Trump's reasons. He is not doing this because he think's it's best for Israel. He is doing this because people are telling him not to. I hope it works out with minimal problems but people have every right to be critical. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:891765064] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>Yes really I have no problem with making Jerusalem Israel's capital. It should happen eventually. While I am aware there will never be a perfect time to make that move I feel that now is one of the worst times to do it. Plus there are Trump's reasons. He is not doing this because he think's it's best for Israel. He is doing this because people are telling him not to. I hope it works out with minimal problems but people have every right to be critical.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 12/07/17 2:43:12 PM #48:	Zikten posted... darkphoenix181 posted... maybe he finds that later God changes his mind that. both in Islam and in Christianity, it's taught by the more old fashioned teachings that Jews lost their chosen status when they killed Jesus. but see here is the problem 1. jews believe God gave them the land 2. muslims believe God gave them the land, then took it away they both agree on the first part the differ on the second part both acknowledge the Jews had it first as well so if a kid has a toy and their dad recently passed away 1. he says his dad gave it to him 2. his brother says his dad gave it to him, then disowned him and now it is his would it really be logical to punish the kid whom the dad gave the toy to when the brother acknowledges the dad gave it to him? we don't know whether the dad did disown the child, but we do know from agreement that the dad gave him the toy --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:891765204] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>maybe he finds that later God changes his mind</quote> that. both in Islam and in Christianity, it's taught by the more old fashioned teachings that Jews lost their chosen status when they killed Jesus.</quote> but see here is the problem 1. jews believe God gave them the land 2. muslims believe God gave them the land, then took it away they both agree on the first part the differ on the second part both acknowledge the Jews had it first as well so if a kid has a toy and their dad recently passed away 1. he says his dad gave it to him 2. his brother says his dad gave it to him, then disowned him and now it is his would it really be logical to punish the kid whom the dad gave the toy to when the brother acknowledges the dad gave it to him? we don't know whether the dad did disown the child, but we do know from agreement that the dad gave him the toy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 12/07/17 2:43:29 PM #49:	Balrog0 posted... The Admiral posted... Balrog0 posted... The Admiral posted... Arabs stayed in the Israeli region because the Jews actually improved the country and developed a viable economy yeah, jerusalem isn't important to islam or anything cmon man Jerusalem isn't relatively close in importance to the Muslims as it is to the Jews and Christians. The most important Muslim cities are Mecca and Medina. The interest in Jerusalem is because they see it as an abomination that Jews are allowed to occupy the region at all. The dome of the rock is hugely important to Muslims, dude Only because they say it is. There is no significant historical importance to that site in Islamic history. All of the history they ascribe to it is strictly Jewish history (and Christian history in the case of Jesus) except for a single visit made by Muhammad at night that's barely even mentioned in the Quran. Zikten posted... darkphoenix181 posted... maybe he finds that later God changes his mind that. both in Islam and in Christianity, it's taught by the more old fashioned teachings that Jews lost their chosen status when they killed Jesus. It's mostly just the Roman Catholics that claim that by ignoring Romans 11. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:891765226] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Arabs stayed in the Israeli region because the Jews actually improved the country and developed a viable economy</quote> yeah, jerusalem isn't important to islam or anything cmon man</quote> Jerusalem isn't relatively close in importance to the Muslims as it is to the Jews and Christians. The most important Muslim cities are Mecca and Medina. The interest in Jerusalem is because they see it as an abomination that Jews are allowed to occupy the region at all.</quote> The dome of the rock is hugely important to Muslims, dude</quote> Only because they say it is. There is no significant historical importance to that site in Islamic history. All of the history they ascribe to it is strictly Jewish history (and Christian history in the case of Jesus) except for a single visit made by Muhammad at night that's barely even mentioned in the Quran. <cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>maybe he finds that later God changes his mind</quote> that. both in Islam and in Christianity, it's taught by the more old fashioned teachings that Jews lost their chosen status when they killed Jesus.</quote> It's mostly just the Roman Catholics that claim that by ignoring Romans 11.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 12/07/17 2:47:08 PM #50:	Yes. Other politicians make promises. Trump actually gets things done. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:891765424] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote>Yes. Other politicians make promises. Trump actually gets things done.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Letron_James 12/07/17 2:55:10 PM #51:	DifferentialEquation posted... Yes. Other politicians make promises. Trump actually gets things done. imagine believing this --- Ask me if I would eat da booty. <cite>Letron_James posted [p:891765874] in did you kn... [t:76072152]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>Yes. Other politicians make promises. Trump actually gets things done.</quote> imagine believing this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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