Board 8 > B8, would you do me a favor and take this survey for my research methods class?

(+) Yeah! (+)

It should only take 10 or so minutes. It's about politics and empathy and substance abuse.

I promise to + you in UotY if you take the survey

https://umassdartmouth.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_56JUnGUCbKPmtYF
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Should we continue even if we feel that we have no experience in the subject matter at all? I have no opinions about the behavior of heroin addicts, I don't know any

Paratroopa1 posted...

Should we continue even if we feel that we have no experience in the subject matter at all? I have no opinions about the behavior of heroin addicts, I don't know any

The point is that they want to see how your experience affects your opinions I think. So literally that's helpful.
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Sure, no problem.
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Sure.
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The question asking if you think Heroin adicts are anti-social is there twice in a row
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Was there supposed to be the same question twice in a row at one point?

EDIT: Jeff beat me to it.
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The political questions not have a "don't agree or disagree" option is fucking me up a little, but whatever.
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It switching to disagree being on the top in the politics section is an odd choice.
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JeffreyRaze posted...

It switching to disagree being on the top in the politics section is an odd choice.

"that scale was not created by my group so we are obligated to keep it as it was written in the original research paper that used it" -cokes
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I just answered neither agree or disagree for just about all the heroin questions, but the rest of it was doable.
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Fair enough.
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Took it, all the heroin questions were terrible. Only legit answer is neither agree or disagree, based on the phrasings of the questions --- unless you're just a presumptuous judgemental dick, or a presumptuous irrational defender of all. But that's a lot of questions to find out the same answer.
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JeffreyRaze posted...

The question asking if you think Heroin adicts are anti-social is there twice in a row

whoops.

but thanks. we can probably use it as a consistency measure or something lol
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So what's the point of this study? To find out how compassionate people are and how it aligns with their political beliefs? Seems like a bit of a circle jerk if so.
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Done

And yeah the Heroin questions were... yeah
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Why is this relevant to b8

I am often annoyed by unhappy people who are just sorry for themselves.

oh
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Does "where are you from" mean originally or currently?
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this was challenging since I don't know much about heroin and am currently confused about politics
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MrGreenonion posted...

Does "where are you from" mean originally or currently?

it's meant as a trigger question for PoC to skew all future answers. Don't worry about it.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Why is this relevant to b8

I am often annoyed by unhappy people who are just sorry for themselves.

oh

yes
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HotDogButts posted...

So what's the point of this study? To find out how compassionate people are and how it aligns with their political beliefs? Seems like a bit of a circle jerk if so.

Seems like it's clearly about heroin and addiction, based on number of questions. And the political stuff is just a few big issues to calibrate your political stance (because your self-reported politics is usually wrong).
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Survey taken.
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foolm0r0n posted...

HotDogButts posted...

So what's the point of this study? To find out how compassionate people are and how it aligns with their political beliefs? Seems like a bit of a circle jerk if so.

Seems like it's clearly about heroin and addiction, based on number of questions. And the political stuff is just a few big issues to calibrate your political stance (because your self-reported politics is usually wrong).

If it's really about heroin they did a horrible job choosing good questions for it.
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HotDogButts posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

HotDogButts posted...

So what's the point of this study? To find out how compassionate people are and how it aligns with their political beliefs? Seems like a bit of a circle jerk if so.

Seems like it's clearly about heroin and addiction, based on number of questions. And the political stuff is just a few big issues to calibrate your political stance (because your self-reported politics is usually wrong).

If it's really about heroin they did a horrible job choosing good questions for it.

I found it a little strange that the agree/disagree sections weren't prefaced with like, "choose the statement that best fits your opinion" or whatever, because I'm not really sure exactly what's being measured otherwise

I did it.
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Paratroopa1 posted...

HotDogButts posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

HotDogButts posted...

So what's the point of this study? To find out how compassionate people are and how it aligns with their political beliefs? Seems like a bit of a circle jerk if so.

Seems like it's clearly about heroin and addiction, based on number of questions. And the political stuff is just a few big issues to calibrate your political stance (because your self-reported politics is usually wrong).

If it's really about heroin they did a horrible job choosing good questions for it.

I found it a little strange that the agree/disagree sections weren't prefaced with like, "choose the statement that best fits your opinion" or whatever, because I'm not really sure exactly what's being measured otherwise

It's implicit in the structure of the question.

But you guys are either thinking too much or not enough for a lot of reasons. Don't worry so much about it.
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Nah it's not implicit at all. It's asking about the behavior of heroin addicts, etc. as if they all act the same. If they wanted personal opinions on how you tend to think most heroin addicts act they need to learn how to ask a scientific question.
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Paratroopa1 posted...

"choose the statement that best fits your opinion" or whatever

What else would "agree/disagree" mean?

Like do you think you are determining reality by clicking "agree" on one of these?
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If you think heroin addicts in general act a certain way:
---If the question asks if heroin addicts in general act a certain way:
------You answer whichever way you think they act
---If the question asks if you think heroin addicts in general act a certain way:
------You answer whichever way you think they act
If you don't think heroin addicts in general act a certain way:
---If the question asks if heroin addicts in general act a certain way:
------You choose "neither"
---If the question asks if you think heroin addicts in general act a certain way:
------You choose "neither"

It doesn't fucking matter. If have a generalization/stereotype, you wouldn't change your answer based on your opinion, unless you knew your opinion was wrong, in which case, change your fucking opinion, not the answer.
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I had to answer neither agree or disagree on all the heroin addict questions because I don't know any heroin addicts but I'm pretty sure the only thing they all have in common is being addicted to heroin.
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epic simulpost
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If you can post the results when you're done it'd be cool to see.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Paratroopa1 posted...

"choose the statement that best fits your opinion" or whatever

What else would "agree/disagree" mean?

Like do you think you are determining reality by clicking "agree" on one of these?

The phrasing is vague, none of the statements are prefaced by something like "I think most heroin addicts are..." or something to that effect; "heroin addicts are x" feels like an incomplete statement. The answer is obviously yes for some people and no for some other people, so the questions should be a little more narrow.

the most annoying one was something like "Most heroin addicts have broken/failed relationships"

I wanted to agree because I think most people have broken/failed relationships, heroin addicts included

but I didn't want it to seem like I was particularly dissing heroin addicts, you know?
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JeffreyRaze posted...

If you can post the results when you're done it'd be cool to see.

I plan on following up. It'll be a couple of weeks.

Paratroopa1 posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

Paratroopa1 posted...

"choose the statement that best fits your opinion" or whatever

What else would "agree/disagree" mean?

Like do you think you are determining reality by clicking "agree" on one of these?

The phrasing is vague, none of the statements are prefaced by something like "I think most heroin addicts are..." or something to that effect; "heroin addicts are x" feels like an incomplete statement. The answer is obviously yes for some people and no for some other people, so the questions should be a little more narrow.

So part of this issue is that because this is research for class vs for thesis or what have you, and because it's only a one-semester class, we weren't creating any of these sections from scratch, but rather, using scales from other studies that fit our needs. This helps streamline the process by both keeping us from spending an inordinate amount of time coming up with survey questions and by making approval by the school's IRB much much faster. Unfortunately, that also hamstrings us somewhat with regards to changing how the questions appear and are worded.

It's not going to be published or anything, it's more for us to try to come up with a research question, figure out how to investigate it, gather data and interpret the data. If we (it's a group project, btw) made errors along the way, that's on us, but it's also not the end of the world, either.
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btw this Cokes topic made me realize
I've never thought about it before
but I wonder if I know more heroin users than any other board 8er
they seem to generally not have any experience with anyone who has done heroin

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red13n posted...

Survey taken.

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CherryCokes posted...

So part of this issue is that because this is research for class vs for thesis or what have you, and because it's only a one-semester class, we weren't creating any of these sections from scratch, but rather, using scales from other studies that fit our needs. This helps streamline the process by both keeping us from spending an inordinate amount of time coming up with survey questions and by making approval by the school's IRB much much faster. Unfortunately, that also hamstrings us somewhat with regards to changing how the questions appear and are worded.

It's not going to be published or anything, it's more for us to try to come up with a research question, figure out how to investigate it, gather data and interpret the data. If we (it's a group project, btw) made errors along the way, that's on us, but it's also not the end of the world, either.

Yeah I figured as much - I feel like imprecise wording on the questions will color the results though, like a lot of us seem to be sticking to 'neither agree nor disagree' for stuff that a different wording might have given us otherwise

UltimaterializerX posted...

Done and done, sir. Good luck!

If you need proof it was me, I'm from New Jersey and I'm a libertarian white Christian male.

He literally has to throw out your answer now
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Paratroopa1 posted...

The phrasing is vague, none of the statements are prefaced by something like "I think most heroin addicts are..."

What do you think it is asking then if not "I think...."

Like give me a list of the possible questions it is asking, because I can only think of 1
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There is a difference between, for instance, "do you personally associate this characteristic with x" and "do you think that most x have this characteristic?" Or the question could even be something like "Do you think other people think this thing about x/have you seen people suggest that x is true" or whatever, and while I'm not going to assume that that's what the survey is asking, it should still be explicit about it.

UltimaterializerX posted...

A lot of those questions about heroin addicts made me uncomfortable, because the first question about them is 'do you agree they have no control over their impulses'. Of course an addict has little to no control over an impulse. It's the very definition of addiction. But then the survey goes into whether or not everything wrong in an addict's life is their own fault or not, even though we answer that in the first question.

You have a choice up until the first time you try something. Past that, it's veeeeeeery hard to blame the addict. They need help more than blame.

I think that was the point -- measuring people's assumptions of addicts against where they purport to be politically. A lot of people are overthinking it here because yes, it IS supposed to be about your assumptions/biases, even or especially if you have no firsthand knowledge.

My cousin's mother (second cousin?) has an opiate addiction. Don't know if it's heroin or not, but it's horrible. I've had to rescue my cousin once due to the company her mom was keeping... it's such a horrible cycle. I'm always worried we'll find out she OD'd at any point.

Also, did it, in case that was in question.
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daytime bump
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I started it last night and I know it's still open on my laptop. I'll finish tonight if there's still time. I don't personally know a lot of heroin addicts but my city is so overrun with heroin it impacts everyone in some way.
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tabiicat42 posted...

I started it last night and I know it's still open on my laptop. I'll finish tonight if there's still time. I don't personally know a lot of heroin addicts but my city is so overrun with heroin it impacts everyone in some way.

there's no rush, finish when you're able.
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Done.
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tabiicat42 posted...

I started it last night and I know it's still open on my laptop. I'll finish tonight if there's still time. I don't personally know a lot of heroin addicts but my city is so overrun with heroin it impacts everyone in some way.

Would you say you are addicted to not finishing the survey?
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