Board 8 > which version of Toad is best?

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MoogleKupo141
10/30/17 3:37:04 PM
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toad!


I love a Toad in uniform.
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iiicon
10/30/17 3:38:10 PM
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time for adventure
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Underleveled
10/30/17 3:48:09 PM
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I'm the best!
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NeoElfboy
10/30/17 7:10:13 PM
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Captain Toad.

I don't think of them a the same character (are they even intended to be?). "Toad" is the guy from SMB2 to me, with the blue colour scheme.
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DeepsPraw
10/30/17 7:15:07 PM
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SMB2 toad
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Underleveled
10/30/17 7:19:23 PM
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NeoElfboy posted...
I don't think of them a the same character (are they even intended to be?). "Toad" is the guy from SMB2 to me, with the blue colour scheme.

Toad is the name of the species as well as the particular one that was in SMB2, who is probably the one that is in all of the Mario Karts and Mario Partys given that he has the same color scheme (at least in artwork).
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LeonhartFour
10/30/17 7:20:03 PM
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Yeah, they are the Toad race, and that one particular one is named Toad.

it's like naming a person Human but yeah
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Lopen
10/30/17 7:25:36 PM
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Really, if you're being historically accurate, I think it's more like Nintendo named their race of humans Adams or Eves or whatever
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RPGlord95
10/30/17 7:26:05 PM
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Start the adventure!
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LeonhartFour
10/30/17 7:34:50 PM
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Lopen posted...
Really, if you're being historically accurate, I think it's more like Nintendo named their race of humans Adams or Eves or whatever


Well, it's a retroactive thing, yeah, once they decided to make an entire race out of them instead of just having it be the same guy every time.
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MoogleKupo141
10/30/17 8:48:05 PM
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NeoElfboy posted...
Captain Toad.

I don't think of them a the same character (are they even intended to be?). "Toad" is the guy from SMB2 to me, with the blue colour scheme.


that Toad is red in all the artwork

same Toad forever in everything
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Grand Kirby
10/31/17 1:10:32 AM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
NeoElfboy posted...
Captain Toad.

I don't think of them a the same character (are they even intended to be?). "Toad" is the guy from SMB2 to me, with the blue colour scheme.


that Toad is red in all the artwork

same Toad forever in everything

What about in 3D World? We had Blue Toad and Captain Toad in the same game, but the main team was supposed to be evocative of the one in SMB2.
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MoogleKupo141
10/31/17 1:59:36 AM
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obviously the original SMB2 Toad had been promoted to Captain at this point so a different, lesser Toad took his place. Probably the same one from the NSMB games.

The only SMB2 thing Toad is blue in is the original NES version. The out of game art and the All-Stars / Advance remakes all have him red. Blue Toad was just an NES quirk.
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azuarc
10/31/17 8:43:36 AM
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Frog and Toad
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Tom Bombadil
10/31/17 8:46:00 AM
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Lopen posted...
Really, if you're being historically accurate, I think it's more like Nintendo named their race of humans Adams or Eves or whatever


Yoshi sympathizes
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VeryInsane
10/31/17 8:48:17 AM
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Wasnt toad originally Blue in SMB2
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VeryInsane
10/31/17 8:49:42 AM
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I know peach went from redhead to brunette to blonde
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Terastodon
10/31/17 11:18:50 AM
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VeryInsane posted...
I know peach went from redhead to brunette to blonde

Yeah, but you can do that with a spraycan.
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AxemRedRanger
10/31/17 11:39:25 AM
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Peach's name in the west also went from Toadstool to Peach!

Anyways, I don't think Nintendo ever really intended for there to be a single individual Toad that was actually named Toad rather than there just being generic Toads. I think we all know the story behind Mario 2 at this point? The Mario cartoons and similar material of that era was western-created and western-oriented marketing that included Toad as a main character because of his Mario 2 appearance and probably wasn't being closely observed (or even particularly cared about) by anyone working on the games - and of course Miyamoto himself isn't fully fluent in English even now so he certainly couldn't have been making sure they stuck to the (lol) Mario canon. There was a "Toad" individual in Super Mario RPG but that was developed by Square and for all I know that might just have been a localization thing. That leaves...what, maybe Wario's Woods?

"Civilian Toad" pretty much doesn't even exist outside of early western marketing.
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KingButz
10/31/17 2:53:46 PM
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N64 Toad

Before they destroyed his vocal folds
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MoogleKupo141
10/31/17 3:00:03 PM
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researched

http://web.archive.org/web/20170202063331/https://miiverse.nintendo.net/replies/AYMHAAACAAADVHhqTRtYFw

apparently Captain Toad is not meant to be the same Toad as any previous Toad
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Grand Kirby
10/31/17 3:41:39 PM
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That said considering how they screwed up the stories for Toadette and the Koopalings it's a lost cause to try and apply any logic to the relationships of the characters in this series.
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