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Darkman124
10/30/17 8:07:23 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/paul-manafort-indicted.html
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ssj3vegeta2
10/30/17 8:07:50 AM
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clearaflagrantj
10/30/17 8:08:46 AM
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r/TheDumbass meltdown incoming
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littlebro07
10/30/17 8:10:10 AM
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Doom_Art
10/30/17 8:11:30 AM
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As I posted in the other topic, I'm hearing that there may be another later on in the day.
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OctoPop
10/30/17 8:11:31 AM
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No surprise then. Mueller indicts them, then their progress through the justice system is slowwalked to help feed MSM narrative about how these two will help flip to bring down Drumpf. Theyll plead to light sentences the day after the 2018 elections.
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littlebro07
10/30/17 8:12:38 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
As I posted in the other topic, I'm hearing that there may be another later on in the day.


From where
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Newhopes
10/30/17 8:15:35 AM
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Pretty much nothing then.
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Doom_Art
10/30/17 8:16:46 AM
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Newhopes posted...
Pretty much nothing then.

I mean he was Trump's campaign manager, and Trump's known/been friends with the dude for years.
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Ammonitida
10/30/17 8:20:04 AM
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And Rick Gates. Nothing to do with Trump-Russia. LOL
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Ammonitida
10/30/17 8:20:51 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Newhopes posted...
Pretty much nothing then.

I mean he was Trump's campaign manager, and Trump's known/been friends with the dude for years.


Not Rick Gates.
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Doom_Art
10/30/17 8:21:40 AM
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Ammonitida posted...
Not Rick Gates.

We're talking about Paul Manafort, yo

Yknow

Trump's campaign manager
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Cocytus
10/30/17 8:22:00 AM
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In the Ball Room WITH the Candlestick!
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Newhopes
10/30/17 8:22:06 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Newhopes posted...
Pretty much nothing then.

I mean he was Trump's campaign manager, and Trump's known/been friends with the dude for years.


From what I know he's been indicted for a loan that happened after he left Trumps campaign, so basically nothing.
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Darkman124
10/30/17 8:23:11 AM
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fundamentally you never should expect a huge bombshell with the first guy, and while this seems big, it still isn't

what he can give them on people connected to russia, such as flynn--or people more loosely connected but who may have other information hidden, such as trump jr or kushner--is the real asset under pursuit here.

remains to be seen whether manafort will fall on his sword for them, or if he even has anything to give in exchange for reduced sentences.

Newhopes posted...


From what I know he's been indicted for a loan that happened after he left Trumps campaign, so basically nothing.


that is one of three things this story suggests he was indicted for. at least one of which (payments from a russian official) happened during the campaign.

official charges are not out, so you're making shit up.
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Stalolin
10/30/17 8:23:16 AM
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Cocytus posted...
In the Ball Room WITH the Candlestick!


I was JUST about to make this joke haha.
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Cocytus
10/30/17 8:23:35 AM
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Stalolin posted...
Cocytus posted...
In the Ball Room WITH the Candlestick!


I was JUST about to make this joke haha.

lmao ^5
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Doom_Art
10/30/17 8:24:10 AM
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Newhopes posted...
From what I know he's been indicted for a loan that happened after he left Trumps campaign, so basically nothing.

Where are you hearing this? The report I read stated the specific charges weren't released yet
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SamuelHayden
10/30/17 8:48:57 AM
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littlebro07 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
As I posted in the other topic, I'm hearing that there may be another later on in the day.


From where


From The Washington Post... Rick Gates?
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Darkman124
10/30/17 10:06:53 AM
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https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts

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Giant_Aspirin
10/30/17 10:20:41 AM
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im eagerly awaiting the twitter fury storm from Trumpy
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Giant_Aspirin
10/30/17 10:22:31 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts

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what potential consequences is he looking at? i haven't seen anything that summarizes what hes facing, in terms of sentencing/punishment if convicted
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SamuelHayden
10/30/17 10:22:34 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts

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Oh shit. They're actually charging for this stuff? Hasn't it been proven that people far, far closer to more important targets failed to register as this too?
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Balrog0
10/30/17 10:22:53 AM
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when I heard "conspiracy against the United States" my jaw dropped

maybe it's not that big of a deal but it really changes the optics if nothing else imo
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Error1355
10/30/17 10:23:15 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts

That's a fun charge.
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Forlorn_Ass
10/30/17 10:23:42 AM
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Looks like it has nothing to do with Trump.
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
10/30/17 10:24:05 AM
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I want to see Trump pardon someone charged with "conspiracy against the US."
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Darkman124
10/30/17 10:24:40 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...


what potential consequences is he looking at? i haven't seen anything that summarizes what hes facing, in terms of sentencing/punishment if convicted


that's generally laid out after a grand jury decides which indictments should lead to actual charges

someone should look up the guidelines for conspiracy against the united states though.
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Giant_Aspirin
10/30/17 10:25:12 AM
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Forlorn_Ass posted...
Looks like it has nothing to do with Trump.


yeah, it's probably about the real criminals here: the Clinton Administration

/redhats
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Forlorn_Ass
10/30/17 10:26:14 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
Forlorn_Ass posted...
Looks like it has nothing to do with Trump.


yeah, it's probably about the real criminals here: the Clinton Administration

/redhats


Im watching CBS livestream waiting to see how it has anything to do with Trump, Ill let you know.
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Darkman124
10/30/17 10:26:53 AM
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@Newhopes posted...


From what I know he's been indicted for a loan that happened after he left Trumps campaign, so basically nothing.


what you know was bullshit apparently

Forlorn_Ass posted...


Im watching CBS livestream waiting to see how it has anything to do with Trump, Ill let you know.


considering they're being charged with conspiracy against the united states, and the charge is related to activities ongoing while they worked for him, if trump knew and did not report them he would likely be guilty of obstruction of justice

youll note the charges reference activities through 2016

that is how it has something to do with trump and likely what they will be shaken down for
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E32005
10/30/17 10:30:13 AM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
r/TheDumbass meltdown incoming

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booboy
10/30/17 10:34:49 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...


what potential consequences is he looking at? i haven't seen anything that summarizes what hes facing, in terms of sentencing/punishment if convicted


that's generally laid out after a grand jury decides which indictments should lead to actual charges

someone should look up the guidelines for conspiracy against the united states though.


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/371

Says that it carries a maximum penalty of 5 years for that one charge, and is a misdemeanor if the object of the conspiracy was a misdemeanor crime.
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Mr_Biscuit
10/30/17 10:39:07 AM
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SamuelHayden
10/30/17 10:47:09 AM
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Forlorn_Ass posted...
Looks like it has nothing to do with Trump.


http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-pol-essential-washington-updates-former-trump-campaign-aide-george-1509374196-htmlstory.html

'George Papadopolous, a former foreign policy advisor to Donald Trump's presidential campaign, has pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI, according to court papers unsealed today.'

EEhhhhhhhh
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Giant_Aspirin
10/30/17 10:49:04 AM
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booboy posted...
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/371

Says that it carries a maximum penalty of 5 years for that one charge, and is a misdemeanor if the object of the conspiracy was a misdemeanor crime.


that's rather underwhelming
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Anteaterking
10/30/17 10:56:35 AM
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mario2000
10/30/17 11:04:04 AM
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"trump isn't corrupt, just every other person involved with him!"

ffs redhats
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littlebro07
10/30/17 11:08:05 AM
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shanefu22
10/30/17 11:12:01 AM
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We knew it was Manafort all along and so did Trump. That's why he fired him early on. It took Mueller 6 months to figure it out though. Sad.
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Darkman124
10/30/17 11:15:54 AM
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shanefu22 posted...
We knew it was Manafort all along and so did Trump. That's why he fired him early on. It took Mueller 6 months to figure it out though. Sad.


trump fired him after the reports went public. he was not fired 'early on'. he ran the campaign for months.

either he didnt know, in which case "sad" (but good for trump) or he did know prior to the reports' release and he's guilty of obstruction of justice
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Ray_Dorset
10/30/17 11:19:07 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
Darkman124 posted...
https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/714/215/281.jpg


what potential consequences is he looking at? i haven't seen anything that summarizes what hes facing, in terms of sentencing/punishment if convicted


he's going to federal pound me in the ass prison
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1NfamousACE_2
10/30/17 11:21:31 AM
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Death!

By snu-snu
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Balrog0
10/30/17 11:22:03 AM
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from 538:

Micah, the way the news has come out has been a bit complicated today, but maybe its best to look at it as a whole. Two advisers to President Trumps 2016 campaign were charged with crimes today. News that a third had been charged earlier this month also broke. That third adviser, Papadopoulos who Trump himself listed as one of his foreign policy advisers plead guilty to lying to FBI agents about his dealings with Russian figures. As part of his guilty plea, that adviser is now cooperating with the special counsels investigation, presumably giving more detailed information about other potentially legally dubious activities on the campaign.

The Papadapoulus news is huge. It changes this from a story about taxes and potentially illegal lobbying activity by Gates and Manafort and moves us right to how the Trump campaign dealt with Russian officials. Manafort is a big name everyone has heard of and ran Trumps campaign for a time. Papadapoulus, while less famous, pleaded guilty to a crime involving Russia. This is bad on two fronts for Trump.

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Anteaterking
10/30/17 11:42:15 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
The Papadapoulus news is huge. It changes this from a story about taxes and potentially illegal lobbying activity by Gates and Manafort and moves us right to how the Trump campaign dealt with Russian officials. Manafort is a big name everyone has heard of and ran Trumps campaign for a time. Papadapoulus, while less famous, pleaded guilty to a crime involving Russia. This is bad on two fronts for Trump.


Yeah, it basically eliminates the main argument that Trump supporters have been using this morning.
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