Board 8 > Kevin Spacey allegedly sexually assaulted a child actor when he was 26.

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CherryCokes
10/30/17 1:04:51 AM
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pjbasis
10/30/17 1:09:36 AM
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Didn't really seem like anything happened, but still pretty creepy to do to a 14 year old.
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FFDragon
10/30/17 1:10:21 AM
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itt i learn kevin spacey is gay
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velocycloraptor
10/30/17 1:10:34 AM
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I knew he was fairly well known for his interest in young men, but this is the first I've heard of someone underage. Not shocking, but very disappointing. Power and wealth are things that no man should have.
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CherryCokes
10/30/17 1:13:45 AM
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velocycloraptor posted...
I knew he was fairly well known for his interest in young men, but this is the first I've heard of someone underage. Not shocking, but very disappointing. Power and wealth are things that no man should have.


It's arguable that he barely had either at the time of the incident, in the grand scheme of things
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voltch
10/30/17 1:14:04 AM
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So that explains why he was so good in american beauty.
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pjbasis
10/30/17 1:15:04 AM
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voltch posted...
So that explains why he was so good in american beauty.


The part where he hits on a minor or when he kisses a dude?
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velocycloraptor
10/30/17 1:17:50 AM
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CherryCokes posted...
velocycloraptor posted...
I knew he was fairly well known for his interest in young men, but this is the first I've heard of someone underage. Not shocking, but very disappointing. Power and wealth are things that no man should have.


It's arguable that he barely had either at the time of the incident, in the grand scheme of things


Eh, he certainly was in a position of power relative to 14 year old Anthony Rapp but sure I see your point. He has a long history of continuing sexually aggressive behavior with younger men though so I stand by my statement.
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HotDogButts
10/30/17 1:33:19 AM
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god damn that tweet response
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CherryCokes
10/30/17 1:46:30 AM
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HotDogButts posted...
god damn that tweet response


yeah it's not good.

it:

a) actively blames the alcohol
b) passively blames his sexuality
c) is only sort of an apology
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Bane_Of_Despair
10/30/17 1:54:18 AM
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yea it's like the more you look at it and think about it the worse it gets

"oh hey uh I don't remember that happening but man I was drunk a lot back then and btw I'm gay"
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LOLIAmAnAlt
10/30/17 2:14:19 AM
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velocycloraptor posted...
Power and wealth are things that no man should have.

Uh
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velocycloraptor
10/30/17 2:27:54 AM
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love to get input from LOLIAmAnAlt
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jcgamer107
10/30/17 2:51:12 AM
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velocycloraptor posted...
Power and wealth are things that no man should have.

I mean no person should have too much of both but you can go for the sexist, self-hating angle on it I guess.
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KCF0107
10/30/17 3:02:03 AM
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I took cyclo saying man as not the gender but the human race.
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LOLIAmAnAlt
10/30/17 4:10:16 AM
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velocycloraptor posted...
love to get input from LOLIAmAnAlt

You said no man should have power and wealth.

Do I really need to explain how and why that statement is asinine.

Id rather not using my phone tbqh. Too many words.
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jcgamer107
10/30/17 4:44:18 AM
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https://vimeo.com/138965813

I just watched this whole thing and jesus
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MariaTaylor
10/30/17 6:48:30 AM
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I don't know that much about him but he looks like a creep
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velocycloraptor
10/30/17 10:27:17 AM
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KCF0107 posted...
I took cyclo saying man as not the gender but the human race.


Yeah.
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Wedge Antilles
10/30/17 10:30:41 AM
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pjbasis posted...
voltch posted...
So that explains why he was so good in american beauty.


The part where he hits on a minor or when he kisses a dude?


Yes
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profDEADPOOL
10/30/17 10:40:29 AM
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KCF0107 posted...
I took cyclo saying man as not the gender but the human race.

Same
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tabiicat42
10/30/17 10:44:52 AM
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it shouldn't shake me up anymore to see famous people being outed as sexual predators but it still does.
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Bane_Of_Despair
10/30/17 1:52:44 PM
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https://twitter.com/ZacharyQuinto/status/925040235066679296
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Suprak the Stud
10/30/17 2:18:47 PM
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velocycloraptor posted...
KCF0107 posted...
I took cyclo saying man as not the gender but the human race.


Yeah.


I mean I thought that was obvious, but the victim complex in some people is so strong they took that as a personal attack on them.

Extraordinary.
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XIII_rocks
10/30/17 3:07:47 PM
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I did think he was making a gender-specific point. I just didn't think he was also necessarily excluding women from it. So like, the topic is about Spacey, a man, and he (or so I thought) made a comment about men, but that doesn't necessarily exclude women.

It's probably because he said "no man should have" rather than "man should not have", I suppose?

Also this is really fucking shitty, he is one of my favourite actors and now he's apparently a total shithead. And using his apparent coming out to deflect it is even shittier.
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CherryCokes
10/30/17 4:56:05 PM
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This is one of Boston's more notable news anchors. She says a loved one was also a victim of Spacey's, and that they are going to speak about it soon

https://twitter.com/HeatherUnruh/status/925086704716992513
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FFDragon
10/30/17 4:57:32 PM
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man

i'm really bummed 'kevin spacey did it' is for real life too
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thundersheep
10/30/17 6:12:11 PM
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CherryCokes posted...
This is one of Boston's more notable news anchors. She says a loved one was also a victim of Spacey's, and that they are going to speak about it soon

https://twitter.com/HeatherUnruh/status/925086704716992513


What I'm finding crazy about this "trend" of people outing their abusers is the fact that these scumbags refuse to admit what they've done wrong, as if they actually believe the first story to get published is going to be the last. Like if you know you've only had once incident ever and that's the person that decides to speak up... yeah go ahead and deny everything. But when you know it's been a problem spanning decades and there are dozens of people with stories about you... just come out and admit you're a sack of shit that needs help. The truth is going to come out anyway.
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Corrik
10/31/17 1:04:56 AM
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jcgamer107
10/31/17 1:12:04 AM
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Suprak the Stud posted...
I mean I thought that was obvious, but the victim complex in some people is so strong they took that as a personal attack on them.

Extraordinary.

How is it obvious when "man" is used and not "person" ?
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velocycloraptor
10/31/17 1:14:31 AM
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man has been used to mean the human race forever
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jcgamer107
10/31/17 1:17:17 AM
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Right - but it can also refer to, you know, men
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velocycloraptor
10/31/17 1:20:43 AM
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but it did not refer to men
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jcgamer107
10/31/17 1:27:18 AM
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i understand that now, lol. i was objecting to Suprak saying it was "obvious".
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Suprak the Stud
10/31/17 1:30:50 AM
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It's a common turn of phrase.

There is a difference between "no man should have this" and "men should not have this" colloquially.
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WazzupGenius00
10/31/17 1:35:08 AM
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I wonder if the accusations against Bryan Singer will resurface now. Looks like Rose McGowan is talking about it a bit at least
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CherryCokes
11/01/17 8:30:25 PM
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CherryCokes
11/01/17 10:04:27 PM
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WazzupGenius00 posted...
I wonder if the accusations against Bryan Singer will resurface now. Looks like Rose McGowan is talking about it a bit at least


https://twitter.com/i/moments/925832145549086720

yep
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StealThisSheen
11/01/17 10:22:32 PM
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As good as it is that Rose McGowan is talking about stuff like this, she needs to tone down the crazy a little bit before the message gets off track

Saying a warrant for her arrest for drugs is just "trying to silence her" when it was issued months before any of this came up isn't going to help anything
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CherryCokes
11/01/17 10:26:01 PM
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velocycloraptor
11/01/17 10:27:00 PM
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glad to see all the accusations against Bryan Singer coming to light (again), as well as the ones against Brett Ratner. Disgusting stuff.
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Mr Lasastryke
11/01/17 10:31:08 PM
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CherryCokes posted...
also Dustin Hoffman

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466


this puts the "he started sexually harassing the woman to get the part in the graduate" anecdote in a whole new light.
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ExThaNemesis
11/01/17 10:44:31 PM
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What on Earth is wrong with Hollywood. Holy hell.
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Inviso
11/01/17 10:50:45 PM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
What on Earth is wrong with Hollywood. Holy hell.


I don't want to get into a big discussion about gender dynamics in society, but I'll just say this: I don't think it's JUST Hollywood that's the problem. I think Hollywood is a focal point at the moment because it's an industry at the forefront of our collective consciousness. You hear "Kevin Spacey accused of sexual assault" and you know who Kevin Spacey is and you care who he is. You hear "president of law firm accused of sexual assault" and it doesn't connect with people the way Hollywood does (or Fox News or MSNBC or whatever.) We're obsessed with celebrity, so every bit of celebrity news is gonna get pushed to the forefront, and it's a lot harder for celebs to duck allegations than it is your average person.
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thundersheep
11/01/17 10:51:39 PM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
What on Earth is wrong with Hollywood. Holy hell.


It's so bad. I've always hated hearing about this kind of stuff, but my girlfriend is a filmmaker who's just started working union gigs so I'm hearing about a lot of this first-hand now too. It's really fucking tough because I want to be happy for her working in the industry that she's worked so long to get in... but I also know it's virtually guaranteed that she's going to be sexually harassed by her bosses and that HR is completely useless and often in on the harassment as well. There's already been a few minor things I'm not OK with, so I'm hoping all this attention is going to cause people to straighten up a bit.

Also, what Inviso said. I'm curious to see if/when more stories come out from other areas with huge gender disparities... like game development...
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velocycloraptor
11/01/17 10:59:14 PM
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this behavior happens everywhere for sure. problem is most people got nowhere to go but the cops, tweet about a dude you know irl and it doesn't matter.
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WazzupGenius00
11/01/17 11:20:05 PM
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thundersheep posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
What on Earth is wrong with Hollywood. Holy hell.


It's so bad. I've always hated hearing about this kind of stuff, but my girlfriend is a filmmaker who's just started working union gigs so I'm hearing about a lot of this first-hand now too. It's really fucking tough because I want to be happy for her working in the industry that she's worked so long to get in... but I also know it's virtually guaranteed that she's going to be sexually harassed by her bosses and that HR is completely useless and often in on the harassment as well. There's already been a few minor things I'm not OK with, so I'm hoping all this attention is going to cause people to straighten up a bit.

Also, what Inviso said. I'm curious to see if/when more stories come out from other areas with huge gender disparities... like game development...

Someone came out with a story from Naughty Dog recently, but ND/Sony instantly shrugged it off with a pretty shitty statement. Then a day or so later a reporter told her own story of being harassed at ND but nothing else has come of either situation. Neither victim named names in their situations though so I don't think much else will happen there.
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CherryCokes
11/01/17 11:59:41 PM
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A second woman has spoken out about Jeremy Piven

http://deadline.com/2017/11/jeremy-piven-allegation-longmire-actress-cassidy-freeman-1202199849/
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Jeff Zero
11/02/17 12:04:12 AM
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Felt weird reading about Rapp's statements the same night an ep of Star Trek: Discovery premiered. His character did a ton this week too. All I kept thinking about was how I hope he's doing OK. It takes a hell of a lot of courage to come forward with this stuff.

Spacey's response was so bad.
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