Poll of the Day > How well would an M rated Pokemon Game do?

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Obviously Nintendo is a bunch of e rated *******, so it would never happen, but I'm curious to think about how this game would pan out considering the nightmarish reality of living in a Pokemon world. It could also take place in Lt Surge's prime during the Pokewar, that idea has potential.
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What word is under those stars?

probably not that well. also, it will hurt the branding that pokemon is a family game. (even it's all about illegal animal fighting.)
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Even if it sold well, it would absolutely probably reek of forced edginess and it would be remembered as Nintendo's Shadow the Hedgehog
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TheOrangeMisfit posted...

Obviously Nintendo is a bunch of e rated *******,

They've put out several T-rated games.

PK_Spam posted...

Even if it sold well, it would absolutely probably reek of forced edginess and it would be remembered as Nintendo's Shadow the Hedgehog

Most likely. "I want an M-rated installment in this typically E-rated series" is almost invariably coming from angsty teenagers that want to appear very grown-up.
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TheOrangeMisfit posted...

Obviously Nintendo is a bunch of e rated *******

There's nothing wrong with E-rated games. There's nothing wrong with Pokmon games being E-rated.
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It will kill the franchise

Being rated M doesn't mean gory violence, it could mean nudity and sex, and a plot that isn't stupid.
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DarkKirby2500 posted...

Being rated M doesn't mean gory violence, it could mean nudity and sex, and a plot that isn't stupid.

Lots if m-rated games have dumb plots

And Nudity? What do you want? The player character coming home and accidentally watching their mom get plowed by the evil team leader and the region professor? Or one of the gym leaders treating you to a really awkward and long sex scene after you win?
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who the fuck would even want that
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Can't wait for the Pokemon hot coffee mod.
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When I was, like, 13, a big part of my entertainment on YouTube was watching Pokmon hacks where characters said "fuck" all the time, and the daycares were always full of wailords and skittys with the little children NPCs just behind the fence, looking and commenting on it
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MICHALECOLE posted...

What word is under those stars?

Bastard?
Bitches?

PK_Spam posted...

Lots if m-rated games have dumb plots

DarkKirby2500 posted...

Being rated M doesn't mean gory violence, it could mean nudity and sex, and a plot that isn't stupid.

Meaning the plot doesn't have to be restricted by Nintendo's desire to make it kid friendly. Stories can be good or bad regardless, but without restrictions a story would not have to be edited or designed to specifically suit a rating.

PK_Spam posted...

And Nudity? What do you want? The player character coming home and accidentally watching their mom get plowed by the evil team leader and the region professor? Or one of the gym leaders treating you to a really awkward and long sex scene after you win?

I meant this mainly as a joke since Nintendo is so aggressively kid friendly but I wouldn't complain.
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The player character should be in their 30's

It would sell extremely poorly since it'd lose the bottom half of its fanbase, fail to attract a significant number of new fans, and likely alienate even die-hard fans.

As for the idea of Pokemon warfare, there already *was* a strategy game along those lines -- Pokemon Conquest -- which didn't do that well. The concept also appeared in some terrible story arcs of the Pokemon manga and using Pokemon for warfare was alluded to in XY as a big thing.

It's also worth noting that the Pokemon designs generally don't lend themselves to that kind of content. Pokemon designs tend to be cute whereas a serious game would likely need more menacing monsters (granted, many of the dark and ghost types are fine as-is; and the concept of Mimikyu was surprisingly grim for a Pokemon game).
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And, in general, while I've sometimes thought it'd be cool to have a Pokemon clone with a slightly more in-depth story and a different setting, I'm not sure that the concept lends itself that well to the idea.
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Zeus posted...

And, in general, while I've sometimes thought it'd be cool to have a Pokemon clone with a slightly more in-depth story and a different setting, I'm not sure that the concept lends itself that well to the idea.

although not a 1:1 clone (and it actually came out before pokemon), play shin megami tensei

DarkKirby2500 posted...

Meaning the plot doesn't have to be restricted by Nintendo's desire to make it kid friendly. Stories can be good or bad regardless, but without restrictions a story would not have to be edited or designed to specifically suit a rating.

Pretty sure it's not the rating that limits Pokemon's plots so much as the basic premise not exactly lending itself to deep, compelling stories.
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Zeus posted...

And, in general, while I've sometimes thought it'd be cool to have a Pokemon clone with a slightly more in-depth story and a different setting, I'm not sure that the concept lends itself that well to the idea.

Literally the Shin Megami Tensei series, although it did the collectible fighting Monster thing before Pokemon.
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green dragon posted...

although not a 1:1 clone (and it actually came out before pokemon), play shin megami tensei

Cruddy_horse posted...

Zeus posted...

And, in general, while I've sometimes thought it'd be cool to have a Pokemon clone with a slightly more in-depth story and a different setting, I'm not sure that the concept lends itself that well to the idea.

Literally the Shin Megami Tensei series, although it did the collectible fighting Monster thing before Pokemon.

Vaguely heard of it, but never played it. I thought the actual player characters also fought in those games with a kind of party system, though, which are kind of a dime a dozen compared to games with Pokemon's format. Is the collectible side of things really that big in SMT? Such as doing something akin to filling a Pokedex?
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Pokemon XD should've been an M game.

And not a fucking tech demo.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Pokemon XD should've been an M game.

And not a fucking tech demo.

That game was all kinds of disappointing despite (or because?) of the darker tone. Granted, half the problem was how slow everything ran.
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Zeus posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Pokemon XD should've been an M game.

And not a fucking tech demo.

That game was all kinds of disappointing despite (or because?) of the darker tone. Granted, half the problem was how slow everything ran.

It was dark-lite, so it failed to present a decent story and since it had virtually no pokemon and was a corridor simulator, there was nothing to get it off the ground.
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Obviously Nintendo is a bunch of e rated *******

waaaaah they dont brainwash people to join the military. i need more guns and explosions.

neanderthal

Zeus posted...

green dragon posted...

although not a 1:1 clone (and it actually came out before pokemon), play shin megami tensei

Cruddy_horse posted...

Zeus posted...

And, in general, while I've sometimes thought it'd be cool to have a Pokemon clone with a slightly more in-depth story and a different setting, I'm not sure that the concept lends itself that well to the idea.

Literally the Shin Megami Tensei series, although it did the collectible fighting Monster thing before Pokemon.

Vaguely heard of it, but never played it. I thought the actual player characters also fought in those games with a kind of party system, though, which are kind of a dime a dozen compared to games with Pokemon's format. Is the collectible side of things really that big in SMT? Such as doing something akin to filling a Pokedex?

Yeah the main character fights alongside the monsters.

And sort of for the collecting part, there is a Compiendium which you can register monters too and can pay currency to summon them at whatever level you regeistered them at. But the biggest part that encouragez the collecting is that you"re supposed to fuse monsters to gether to create a new one with the same skills as the ones you fused.

Its' a fantastic game series I very highly reccomend.

Also sorry for the shit spelling, I'm on my phone right now.
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Pokemon Insurgence is as close as it'll ever get to M rated, even though it's just a fan game.
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I'd be happy if a Pokemon game did anything new.

I'd be very happy if they made a mature Pokemon game.

It's a terrible idea with no purpose.