Poll of the Day > Someone explain the ME:Andromeda hate.

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I'm having fun playing it.
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Oh boy.
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it's fun to play, sure

but that's it.

its story is shit and shits all over established lore, animations are garbage, new aliens are stupid, its

pretty much it's just really, really shit.
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Clearly, helly's opinion will be disregarded as usual.
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it's fun to play, sure

but that's it.

its story is shit and shits all over established lore, animations are garbage, new aliens are stupid, its

pretty much it's just really, really shit.
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Smarkil also. He just parrots other users.
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even ea thinks it was shit and dropped everything it had to do with it, even closed the bioware branch that made it
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helIy posted...

it's fun to play, sure

but that's it.

its story is shit and shits all over established lore, animations are garbage, new aliens are stupid, its

pretty much it's just really, really shit.

As much as i always disagree with helly because he's always wrong. In this instance hes 100% correct.

Let me also add on the Main Character is a pushover and the cast is forgettable.
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You ever hear about successful franchises that release a shitty game and never make any more in it's series? This is it.

The C team, let alone the B team, made the game, and it shows. It's a beloved franchise that's now been truly marred for life by EA, and thus most likely won't ever get a second chance.
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Surprise surprise. EA fired people. Go complain about dragons dogma.
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So far all I'm seeing are opinions and no factual reasons
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Stupid shit like this is why you're the worst
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It's all opinion based. I dont know what else to tell you.
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It was glitchy when it first came out and that started a big hype train against the game after a few popular youtubers made some compliation videos that made the game seem like a disaster

The game is very good, I think it is easily a 8-8.5/10
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Mead posted...

It was glitchy when it first came out and that started a big hype train against the game after a few popular youtubers made some compliation videos that made the game seem like a disaster

The game is very good, I think it is easily a 8-8.5/10

As a standalone itd be a 6/10

As a reboot to the ME games its a 3 the combat was good and worlds were kinda cool.

Also i made a glitch vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUgOXA7wCUc
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Never ran into glitches myself. As for the story I think it was par for the course set by ME2&3 which weren't great either. ME1 was the only game in the series that had a stand out narrative imo

My biggest complaint about the game is how repetetive the combat starts to feel. Dragon Age Inquisition had the same issue.
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Mead posted...

It was glitchy when it first came out and that started a big hype train against the game after a few popular youtubers made some compliation videos that made the game seem like a disaster

The game is very good, I think it is easily a 8-8.5/10

That good ole bandwagon.

EvilMegas posted...

the combat was good and worlds were kinda cool.

The combat and the worlds are awesome.
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Mead posted...

Never ran into glitches myself. As for the story I think it was par for the course set by ME2&3 which weren't great either. ME1 was the only game in the series that had a stand out narrative imo

My biggest complaint about the game is how repetetive the combat starts to feel. Dragon Age Inquisition had the same issue.

They had potential story-wise, then it just dies mid game when you realize that the bonemen are the only guys, the first big ol spoiler was dumb and the second big ol spoiler was cool.

The reason why it seems like 2 and 3 were better is because the characters made the story better and Shepard wasntba huge bitch. Seriously Ryder gets pushed around by everyone lol
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Mead posted...

Never ran into glitches myself. As for the story I think it was par for the course set by ME2&3 which weren't great either. ME1 was the only game in the series that had a stand out narrative imo

My biggest complaint about the game is how repetetive the combat starts to feel. Dragon Age Inquisition had the same issue.

Kadara has a number of quests that are broken and I somehow managed to get the Nomad into a Remnant vault on Elaaden, but those are the only real glitches I've run into.

There are way too many "I need to scan more of x item" quests, I think I had 5 at one time on Voeld alone.

I haven't hit a point where combat has felt repetitive yet. Since you've got access to all the skill trees I kept changing the skill combinations I was using in fights.

Mead posted...

It was glitchy when it first came out and that started a big hype train against the game after a few popular youtubers made some compliation videos that made the game seem like a disaster

The game is very good, I think it is easily a 8-8.5/10

you actually lost some of my respect with this
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it's not a bad game, just not a very good mass effect game, ok?

it's like, it looks like mass effect (kind of), it sounds like mass effect, it kinda sorta plays like mass effect... but it feels like an empty, soulless husk instead of what mass effect games should be. the writing is sloppy and just plain dumb, the menus and ui are confusing af, and the story isn't nearly as intriguing (in fact, it's downright boring). the overall polish isn't there, ok? everything feels rushed and unfinished, ok?

for some games, it would have been fine, but to put the mass effect name on that was its true disservice, ok?
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I'm enjoying the batter between jaal and cora.
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One thing that is interesting to me is how much of the skeleton of Kingdoms of Amalur is apparant in the rpg elements
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igxLpVN50Ro

Duck-I-Says posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igxLpVN50Ro

Fuck you for posting that, o forgot about that shit. Oh god, you monster.
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Duck-I-Says posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igxLpVN50Ro

lmao
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EvilMegas posted...

Fuck you for posting that, o forgot about that shit. Oh god, you monster.

I'm sorry, but the OP has to know.

I can't wait to finish bartending so I can go home and find the golden world.
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The hate this game got was completely over the top.

Yea, the game wasn't complete. It deserved criticism, but the barrage of hate the game got compared to other titles is... insane. I'm not even sure hate is strong enough of a word for the response.

This was like a 6 maybe 7 out of 10 game. There was stupid shit, like the entire concept of the exiles, the many graphical glitches, the poor characters, the not even hidden SJW bs. But it was enjoyable, it had an ending that I wanted from ME3, I had expectations for the sequel. But the reception is game got was what you would expect from a 1 out of 10 game.

Duck-I-Says posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igxLpVN50Ro

We're calling it Friday nights sissy fights.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

I'm having fun playing it.

>this happened.
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Someone here wrote a detailed post explaining it and for Dragon Age: Inquisitor. For the most part I thought the explanation had merit.

Gamers as a whole are always fickle. Make the game too similar and one set of fans will complain. Make it too different and another set of fans will complain. Make it a sequel and some fans will think the developers can't be creative. Create a new set of characters and environment and fans will want to go back to characters they know. Can't please em all.....

For better of worse, I fear fans as a whole mighta been too harsh to the point that EA will not release any future Mass Effect or Dragon Age games and these are universes/worlds with rather good lore material I thought. Personally for me I enjoyed ME 1 through 3, DA: Origins, and DA 2. I wish some features were kept it while some features taken out but overall I still had fun.

Personally for me, I'll get to DA: Inquisitor and ME: Andromenda one of these days when I get my Steam backlog lower. I'm kinda forcing myself to not buy new single-player games and only limit my purchase to games that I will co-op with friends.
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InfestedAdam posted...

Someone here wrote a detailed post

I can guarantee it was PO

He is composed of long winded critiques at the molecular level
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it's not the same stuff as before with sheppard. i guess people like having choices not matter, choices getting retconned, forced dream walking sequences, forced endings where you die, etc.....
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I'm waiting until it's really low in price before I even bother touching this based on how rushed the game seems.
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InfestedAdam posted...

Someone here wrote a detailed post explaining it and for Dragon Age: Inquisitor. For the most part I thought the explanation had merit.

Gamers as a whole are always fickle. Make the game too similar and one set of fans will complain. Make it too different and another set of fans will complain. Make it a sequel and some fans will think the developers can't be creative. Create a new set of characters and environment and fans will want to go back to characters they know. Can't please em all.....

For better of worse, I fear fans as a whole mighta been too harsh to the point that EA will not release any future Mass Effect or Dragon Age games and these are universes/worlds with rather good lore material I thought. Personally for me I enjoyed ME 1 through 3, DA: Origins, and DA 2. I wish some features were kept it while some features taken out but overall I still had fun.

Personally for me, I'll get to DA: Inquisitor and ME: Andromenda one of these days when I get my Steam backlog lower. I'm kinda forcing myself to not buy new single-player games and only limit my purchase to games that I will co-op with friends.

@ParanoidObsessive
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helIy posted...

@ParanoidObsessive

Thank you. I knew it was him but only recall the first half.
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People tend to focus on the story and technical issues, but the gameplay way pretty bad too. The game has a lot of issues due to how various things scale up as you level. Weapons both level up and scale off your damage bonuses while powers can only be improved from damage bonuses, so the latter quickly become outclassed as the game progresses. The open ended class system sounds nice at first, but between the three ability limit and the sheer volume of skill points you get every character turns into the same homogeneous blob of passive buffs by the end of the game. The real sticking point is that enemy health scales up much faster than their damage output. Early combat feels tactical like the previous games, but as you reach higher levels things quickly devolve into a battle of bullet sponges where enemies struggle to hurt you and you struggle to stay awake.

The movement system is another feature that was hyped up heavily before release, but in practice it's mostly an excuse for the terrible level design that haphazardly tosses an assortment of enemies into a cluster of chest high walls and calls it a day. Enemies do a poor job of forcing you out of cover and reinforcements spawn in relative to your current position, so there's virtually no incentive to flank or reposition.

Can't have an open world game these days without crafting. Andromeda certainly has it, but the implementation is awful. Almost every weapon and armor suit you can make is available immediately, all you'll find as you progress through the game are augments and higher levels of the same stuff. This introduces two problems: all the complexity is front-loaded and there's nothing cool to find while exploring. The process of actually crafting something is convoluted, but if you bother to figure out how it works you can have a top tier weapon like the black widow at level 2. At that point there is zero progression from a loot standpoint. You'll never find a weapon better than the one you've crafted with augments and (aside from a single early story moment that unlocks some new tech) you'll never find a new weapon that contests the one you had access to early on. Once you find a weapon you like there's nothing to find in the wilderness beyond ensuring you have enough rocks to craft the next level version of the same thing when it becomes available.

Lastly, for an open world game Andromeda features a pathetic amount of enemy variety. The ME wiki lists 100 different pages for enemies in mass effect 2, Andromeda's list has only 36. This really kills any desire to explore beyond the first planet or two, by that point you've already seen nearly everything the game has to offer. Every piece of rare remnant tech is going to be guarded by a destroyer. Every kett base you infiltrate is going to conclude with an ascendant fight. The first architect you fight is really cool, but it becomes a lot less interesting when you realize that's the only big thing you're going to find and that fighting them is even less varied than the dragons in DAI.

In short Andromeda is an open world game in the sense that getting anywhere takes a long time and there are a lot of quest markers on the map, but it utterly fails to provide a compelling gameplay reason to do any of it. They took all the faults of dragon age inquisition and double downed on them, filling large zones with busy work that never pays off. All the hate it receives is warranted, nobody should bother to play a game with such utter contempt for their free time.
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wwinterj25 posted...

I'm waiting until it's really low in price before I even bother touching this based on how rushed the game seems.

$10 and free shipping from Amazon.
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The story sucks.
The side quest are boring and most are just a fetchquest (go here, collect this many things, come back).
The open world was cool at first but ended up being shallow as a puddle.
The crew memebers were just rehashes of the original trilogy. Badass Krogan, bad cop Turian, overly religious human female, Asari archaeologist, ring any bells? At least the ship is totally not the Normandy... right?
The bad guys were boring.
The progression was terrible. I mean you could craft the best shotgun in the game like 10 minutes into the game.
The crafting system was a joke.
The multiplayer was somehow worse than the last.
The animations were nightmare fuel.

All in all the game was really rushed because it sounds like they had to scrap large portions of it late into the development cycle, and somehow still make the deadline.

I don't hate the game, I just have higher standards for Mass Effect.
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ME: Andromeda is a crappy bootleg of the first game in the series. The story is pointless because the main antagonists arent a threat and are easily overcome. The characters range from boring rip-offs of existing ones to boring in a different way. The game is utterly devoid of any and all personality and originality... Then there were the massive technical problems it launched with.

Beyond those objective failings, the fact its made as a love-letter to whiny SJWs is a serious blow to its appeal. Then theres Manveer Heir working on it, who is probably the most open racist post-WWII...
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SunWuKung420 posted...

$10 and free shipping from Amazon.

It was a AAA EA game that came out this year. That price should tell you all you need to know.

Duck-I-Says posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igxLpVN50Ro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsg4VoG7BZw

Dunno, but it has top notch sfm and blender!!
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helIy posted...

InfestedAdam posted...

Someone here wrote a detailed post explaining it and for Dragon Age: Inquisitor. For the most part I thought the explanation had merit.

Gamers as a whole are always fickle. Make the game too similar and one set of fans will complain. Make it too different and another set of fans will complain. Make it a sequel and some fans will think the developers can't be creative. Create a new set of characters and environment and fans will want to go back to characters they know. Can't please em all.....

For better of worse, I fear fans as a whole mighta been too harsh to the point that EA will not release any future Mass Effect or Dragon Age games and these are universes/worlds with rather good lore material I thought. Personally for me I enjoyed ME 1 through 3, DA: Origins, and DA 2. I wish some features were kept it while some features taken out but overall I still had fun.

Personally for me, I'll get to DA: Inquisitor and ME: Andromenda one of these days when I get my Steam backlog lower. I'm kinda forcing myself to not buy new single-player games and only limit my purchase to games that I will co-op with friends.

@ParanoidObsessive

No, PO just flat out doesn't like Dragon age Spanish Inquistion.
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it's funny that witcher is a better mass effect game than mass effect andromeda.

You are playing pre patch. delete your patches and play then try playing it all it's buggy glory.
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ernieforss posted...

it's funny that witcher is a better mass effect game than mass effect andromeda.

You are playing pre patch. delete your patches and play then try playing it all it's buggy glory.

I really need to start on that game. I think I was a little put-off by the combat clicking and somehow cannot get the timing right. Still, with how much praises that game have received, I really outta give it a try.
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yeah the combat clicking in witcher is pretty bad. but you get use to it. and everything becomes super simple and feel to basic.
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Mead posted...

Never ran into glitches myself. As for the story I think it was par for the course set by ME2&3 which weren't great either. ME1 was the only game in the series that had a stand out narrative imo

I haven't played Andromeda, but I agree with the rest of this. Mass Effect 2 and 3 had different writers and it shows. Mass Effect 1 built this amazingly detailed universe and started an excellent story. In the sequel, nothing important happens. The final game actually had a great story up until the ending where it shits on years of fans playing the series. Even the extended version didn't improve it enough.

This board thinks ME2 sucks? Are you guys insane? The game was a masterpiece. Easily the best in the series.