Poll of the Day > 11 y/o BOOTED out of Cub Scouts cause he asked a REPUBLICAN a HARD QUESTION!!!

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11 y/o Ames Mayfield from Colorado was KICKED out of Cubscouts because he asked a Republican a TOUGH question on Gun Control!!

He went after Vicki Marble during a Q&A on a den outing and read from a printed sheet he prepared and said "An issue that i'm concerned about is common sense gun control. I was shocked that you co-sponsored a bill to allow domestic violence offender to continue to own a gun..Why on Earth would you want somebody who beats their wife to have access to a gun?"

He was tasked to research and ask a question that impacts the communty and his den leaders said his question was DISRESPECTFUL and TOO POLITICAL so they held a meeting with his mom, Lori that his son was kicked out.

The incident caught former Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Gifford's attention and tweeted him that said "This is exactly the kind of courage we need in Congress. Ames, call me in 14 years. I'll campaign for you"

Ames said "Given that the Las Vegas shooting happened, i felt that it should be reasonable thing to ask. I don't feel like i did anything wrong"

He was also CUT OFF by the den leader to allow the senator to answer and even though the senator and leader "commended" him for his "thorough" list, he was still cut..

All Vicki the wench said was "We need crime control. I don't blame the boy for asking the questions, since i believe there was an element of manipulation invovled, and it wasn't much different from the questions i normally field in other meetings. The invitation to meet with the Scouts was never intended to cause friction and controversy"

Ames' mom said she was heartbroken to find out he could no longer be part of his den because he actually liked his leader and was 4 months away from transitioning from Cub to Boy Scouts.

Do you think asking the Republican about Gun Control was Unfair? let's see what people think

Ames -

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Vicki - Wicked Witch

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Gabrielle Giffords -

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That was pretty disrespectful, but also pretty funny.

I can understand "too political", but in what way was the question disrespectful?
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Full Throttle posted...

He was tasked to research and ask a question that impacts the communty

They made it sound like they were encouraged to ask tough questions. They should have made it clearer if they wanted softballs..
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Full Throttle posted...

He went after Vicki Marble during a Q&A on a den outing and read from a printed sheet he prepared and said "An issue that i'm concerned about is common sense gun control. I was shocked that you co-sponsored a bill to allow domestic violence offender to continue to own a gun..Why on Earth would you want somebody who beats their wife to have access to a gun?"

He prepared? Bullshit. His parents wrote that out for him and used him as a puppet to push their agendas.

As for the law itself, I'm not familiar enough with the specifics.

Full Throttle posted...

Ames' mom said she was heartbroken to find out he could no longer be part of his den because he actually liked his leader and was 4 months away from transitioning from Cub to Boy Scouts.

Given that she probably wrote the question, it's entirely her fault. Unfortunately, the kid pays the price for her selfishness and stupidity.
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Kids talk about politics more than they used to.

80% of the kids at my sister's elementary voted for Trump in their play election. I think he resonates with them for whatever reason.

*shiver*

If she can't handle a question about gun control - legislation she co-sponsored no less! - then she should quit her job.

He was asked to write a question for her about something "that impacts the community" and did just that, and he got kicked out of the scouts for it! What a fucking joke. Of course Zeus thinks it's fine.

Yellow posted...

80% of the kids at my sister's elementary voted for Trump in their play election. I think he resonates with them for whatever reason.

*shiver*

Same level of intellect. His way of speaking is more understandable to them.
I apologize, I offended the intelligence of children everywhere just now

Full Throttle posted...

He was tasked to research and ask a question that impacts the communty

Seems like that's what he did. Perhaps they should be more specific if some questions are off bounds.

Zeus posted...

He prepared? Bullshit. His parents wrote that out for him and used him as a puppet to push their agendas.

Going with this too. A 11 year old wouldn't think to ask this.
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First of all, it's not just "men that beat their wives". Domestic violence is a serious offense from both sides.
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Every real question you could ask a US congressman is going to/should be a hard-hitting one they can't answer. They're criminals, they just change the rules before they break them.

If someone in a position to help the control of guns is asked anything less than a hard question when they're justifying a pro gun stance, then that is far more offensive imho.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Full Throttle posted...

He was tasked to research and ask a question that impacts the communty

Seems like that's what he did. Perhaps they should be more specific if some questions are off bounds.

Zeus posted...

He prepared? Bullshit. His parents wrote that out for him and used him as a puppet to push their agendas.

Going with this too. A 11 year old wouldn't think to ask this.

Doesn't make the question any less valid. Time for them to start earning those lobbyist bribes and answer some tricky ones.
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Syntheticon posted...

Doesn't make the question any less valid.

Agreed but thanks to mum the kid got put in the firing line and shot.
I'll just go get my coat.
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everything about this reeks of bullshit.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Syntheticon posted...

Doesn't make the question any less valid.

Agreed but thanks to mum the kid got put in the firing line and shot.
I'll just go get my coat.

Put in the firing line by a coward politician, sure but it was the Cub Scouts that didn't back him up and that makes it so much worse.
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Too political to asks Senators questions of politics.

wat

If you don't want to talk politics, why bring a high ranking politician in?
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I think it's great that he was kicked out. Because another Scout group offered to take him in immediately, he was only banned from that specific group. And really, would you want to be part of a group that would kick someone out for asking a hard question?

So it sucks that people are so awful, but I think in the end, things will work out much better this way.
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Yellow posted...

That was pretty disrespectful, but also pretty funny.

Yeah, how dare this kid ask a hardball question he should have asked the guy what his favorite color was, and then to follow that up ask him how much he cares about the troops.
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It's a stupidly loaded strawman question that purposefully implies the worst case scenario despite the moronically low bar that is set to charge someone with domestic violence. Also, as previously stated, it was a question handed to him by some nutjob liberal mom using her child to push her political agenda and try to get some facebook likes when the video and story hit the net. Lastly, an answer to the question would completely sail over the head of a troop of boy scouts.
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Yellow posted...

Kids talk about politics more than they used to.

80% of the kids at my sister's elementary voted for Trump in their play election. I think he resonates with them for whatever reason.

A kid wouldn't be aware of a proposed law like that nor would he use jargon like "common sense gun control." The question and its phrasing sound nothing like what an 11 y/o would write.

streamofthesky posted...

If she can't handle a question about gun control - legislation she co-sponsored no less! - then she should quit her job.

And the kid should have asked a question he wrote. He lied, which isn't the scouts way.

streamofthesky posted...

He was asked to write a question for her about something "that impacts the community" and did just that, and he got kicked out of the scouts for it! What a fucking joke. Of course Zeus thinks it's fine.

The only joke is the fact you actually believe he wrote that question.

waterdeepchu posted...

I think it's great that he was kicked out. Because another Scout group offered to take him in immediately, he was only banned from that specific group. And really, would you want to be part of a group that would kick someone out for asking a hard question?

He cheated on his assignment. Pretty sure that violates the scout's code. Otherwise the only disgusting thing is parents who would turn their children into a mouthpiece for their political views. That's cheap political hackery.
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Zeus posted...

He cheated on his assignment. Pretty sure that violates the scout's code. Otherwise the only disgusting thing is parents who would turn their children into a mouthpiece for their political views. That's cheap political hackery.

Then he should've been kicked out for cheating on the assignment, not for being "disrespectful" or "too political," especially since it sounded like they were encouraging them to ask hard questions.
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Zeus posted...

He cheated on his assignment.

It's amazing how you know that and build your whole train of logic off that.

Yellow posted...

Zeus posted...

He cheated on his assignment.

It's amazing how you know that and build your whole train of logic off that.

It's amazing how you persist in denying that. Go back and look at the wording, the subject material, etc. This is the same shit parents were getting their kids to do on the campaign trail.
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Yellow posted...

Zeus posted...

He cheated on his assignment.

It's amazing how you know that and build your whole train of logic off that.

What's amazing is the unadulterated rage towards the child.
In Zeus' America, the eleven year old child is just as culpable as the parents (he claims) that wrote the question.
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everyone needs to own a pistol and machine gun. Everyone.
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Melon_Master posted...

Yellow posted...

Zeus posted...

He cheated on his assignment.

It's amazing how you know that and build your whole train of logic off that.

What's amazing is the unadulterated rage towards the child.
In Zeus' America, the eleven year old child is just as culpable as the parents (he claims) that wrote the question.

What's amazing is the unadulterated spin in your stupid claims.
In Melon's America, the eleven year old child is able to have the parents take his tests and quizzes. (And, by the way, if your parents didn't take your tests for you, maybe you'd have fewer problems with grammar.)

But seriously, keep pretending that the parents didn't obviously write this question. As for the issue of culpability, a child who lets their parent cheat for them bears at least some of the responsibility. While I may not have distinctly allocated blame, the fact that you inferred that it fell at least equally on the child likely results from a comprehension issue given that in several places I very strongly found fault with the parent(s). However, the idea that you seem to suggest -- that a child is wholly innocent until the age of 18 when he magically gains the ability to reason and recognize right from wrong -- is both stunningly and dangerously naive. Most children are taught about cheating at a much younger age.
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So he 100% cheated by having his parents do it. He didn't Google it, he didn't hear it from his friends at school, he didn't hear it on the radio, he's a dirty stinking rotten cheater?

Yellow posted...

Kids talk about politics more than they used to.

80% of the kids at my sister's elementary voted for Trump in their play election. I think he resonates with them for whatever reason.

*shiver*

Probably because of Hillarys uncanny valley problem, where shes almost human but just not enough and repulses everybody.
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Zeus posted...

But seriously, keep pretending that the parents didn't obviously write this question. As for the issue of culpability, a child who lets their parent cheat for them bears at least some of the responsibility.

He wasn't kicked out for cheating, though. He was kicked out for "being disrespectful" and "too political." The whole question of cheating is a moot point when it wasn't the reason he was kicked out in the first place.
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He can still join boy scouts. You don't need to have done cub scouts to join boy scouts.

I dont understand why people dont believe he could ask this. He is 11 not 7. He was told to think up questions for a politician coming and as a member of an organization that promotes community outreach he became concerned with guns after the largest shooting in american history.

Maybe his parents gave it to him, maybe they didnt but it is not hard to believe he thought of it himself.

This isnt exactly a college level question.

Also even if his parents did give it to him. It is a fair question being asked by one of their constituants. The politician should have no trouble answering this one.
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Zeus posted...

maybe you'd have fewer problems with grammar

Your only fallback when you get cornered with anyone is to act like a human spellchecker, it's rather depressing you're incapable of tasking yourself to stay on subject with another adult.
You can pretty up your pig all you like, but it'll always be a pig, Zeus.
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Full Throttle posted...

his den leaders said his question was DISRESPECTFUL and TOO POLITICAL

Wasn't the question meant to be political? Perhaps the way it was asked could have been toned down but there was nothing wrong with the question itself. The reasoning for how the question relates to the task they were given is dubious, though.

Full Throttle posted...

Ames said "Given that the Las Vegas shooting happened, i felt that it should be reasonable thing to ask. I don't feel like i did anything wrong"

I don't see what the Las Vegas shooting has to do with domestic violence or how it impacts their community in Colorado.
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If you are a grown adult, and you gotta fuck with an 11 year old because you can't handle their questions, you really need to re-evaluate your life.
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Did anyone see the video of the kid? He's a giant nerd and very articulate. I don't find it hard to believe he wrote the question.
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Melon_Master posted...

Zeus posted...

maybe you'd have fewer problems with grammar

Your only fallback when you get cornered with anyone is to act like a human spellchecker, it's rather depressing you're incapable of tasking yourself to stay on subject with another adult.
You can pretty up your pig all you like, but it'll always be a pig, Zeus.

Burn, ok?
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