Board 8 > Jeff Zero & Leonhart in Different Houses: Trails of Arcadia Edition [JZLF]

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The Mana Sword
10/03/17 1:02:12 PM
#52:


I should probably play AA6 at some point.
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 1:08:05 PM
#53:


I really liked SoJ! It's a really imbalanced game though. It basically puts all of its eggs into two baskets. The other cases are mostly fine (although one case in particular gets dumped on a lot), but two cases are disproportionately bigger than all the others. They're both top ten quality cases though, so I guess it works out! I do like how SoJ went for a scale in its story that none of the other games have (although DGS2 seems like it's going for something similar, actually, just based on one case). I'm really curious to see how they follow it up.
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The Mana Sword
10/03/17 1:10:10 PM
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Yeah, I'm not entirely sure why I glossed over it when it came out. I don't really have much affinity for my 3DS (or any handheld gaming) anymore, so that's probably part of it.
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 1:13:10 PM
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I feel like I'm into handheld gaming now more than I ever was since I got my 3DS and Vita. I had a Game Boy, a Game Gear, and a GBA, but I rarely ever played them (and I think I mostly just played the ports of older games on the GBA anyway, like the Mario games or DKC2). I guess it's because visual novels translate so well to handhelds, and I've gotten into them a lot over the last ten years or so. Plus, being able to play older games on the go is nice, too.
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Mac Arrowny
10/03/17 2:09:15 PM
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The Mana Sword posted...
xp1337 posted...
Final (probably) Dungeon looks really cool so far


bless your heart


Hey, it certainly *looks* cool! Just too bad about the execution. Maybe if you could turn off encounters and run two or three times as fast it would be fun?
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pjbasis
10/03/17 2:34:30 PM
#57:


Waiting for the 3DS version of AA4 is the only reason I haven't finished the series yet.
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 2:37:27 PM
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Well, it's coming out next month! Perhaps that will prompt another full-series replay for me.

Anyway, it started to rain while I was out on my walk, but that's okay because rain makes everything better. It's why Burmecia is a top tier FF location.
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pjbasis
10/03/17 2:38:47 PM
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 2:42:40 PM
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I've been to Florida many times, and I enjoy visiting it. I'm not one of those people who considers Florida to be the cesspool of the United States, and I prefer hot weather to cold weather, but I dunno if I could live there all the time.
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xp1337
10/03/17 4:27:59 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
I guess I need to activate the hype machine in here too because for all the begging for me to play more Trails nobody wants to talk about it

well excuse me for not having been online

I mean, the hype train is for Trails the 3rd. But as for what you're doing in FC right now. Eh. If you want to grind EXP or Sepith you have the Shining Poms for that! After my initial sweep of an area I tended to do my best to just avoid encounters unless I had a good reason to do otherwise, like an enemy type that dropped a good quartz or something, I'd let myself fight them as I passed through.

Mac Arrowny posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
xp1337 posted...
Final (probably) Dungeon looks really cool so far


bless your heart


Hey, it certainly *looks* cool! Just too bad about the execution. Maybe if you could turn off encounters and run two or three times as fast it would be fun?

wow you guys are so negative

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okay yeah that dungeon could have been designed better.

I should be at the end, but that was quite a trek, so I stopped there. Next time we'll (probably) beat the game. It's also kind of inexcusable that they added dungeon warps in Berseria but then inexplicably don't use them in the final dungeon. Made backtracking for the optional bosses in there more annoying than it had to be. I'd also enhance my equipment if there were one around but I'll just go with what I have rather than walk all the way back here. >_>
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 4:34:52 PM
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pyresword
10/03/17 4:47:10 PM
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I wasn't a huge fan of any of the dungeons in Berseria to be honest. Well maybe the volcano one, but not any of the others anyway. I have a ton of praise for the game, but it's mostly for the story/characters and then a little for the battle system.
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 4:49:44 PM
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I don't feel like Symphonia or Abyss really had good dungeons either. Maybe it's just not a Tales thing.

Well, I think I liked Symphonia's last dungeon, but it might have been for the music more than anything.
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The Mana Sword
10/03/17 4:50:49 PM
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Tales dungeons have been bad since Phantasia.
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xp1337
10/03/17 5:30:08 PM
#66:


Just saw some more .hack//G.U. Last Recode news.

this game is literally answering all my prayers

It's almost frightening how pretty much everything I'd have on a realistic-to-even-a-bit-out-there wishlist has been confirmed. am i in the matrix? is this all just a simulation?
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 5:41:37 PM
#67:


oh snap emojis are here

this topic will surely be a sanctuary from the invasion right?
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xp1337
10/03/17 5:42:46 PM
#68:


it would have been

but now you have tempted fate
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 7:17:23 PM
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Now playing: Love Song of a Certain Dragon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2kyr1S7Tfg


Talking about ToC2 last night got me in the mood to listen to it.
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Mac Arrowny
10/03/17 7:43:51 PM
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fun VN ^_^
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BK_Sheikah00
10/03/17 7:46:20 PM
#71:


Zestiria's trial shrines were decent dungeons, though mostly for the music. And Edna.

The spinny mist thing really gets the job done.
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 10:03:39 PM
#72:


Now playing: Last Piece (ED1 of Great Teacher Onizuka)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GceuBLZjTu8


GTO is a weird show for me. I think Onizuka is a good character most of the time, and I like some of the themes, particularly when it comes to him having compassion and making a difference in the lives of his students, even if it means doing things unconventionally. The show feels kind of meandering at times though and doesn't feel like it has a real sense of direction with where it wants to go and what it wants to be. I don't feel like there are any real standout characters in this show either aside from Onizuka and maybe Kanzaki.
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LordoftheMorons
10/03/17 10:08:41 PM
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I really like Kanzaki. Unfortunately the anime stops halfway through the manga and doesn't get to her second arc (which was really good).
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 10:40:42 PM
#74:


Man, I had forgotten that there's a noticeable bump in animation quality from season 1 to season 2 of Working!!
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Mac Arrowny
10/03/17 10:47:46 PM
#75:


Urumi so good. Have you read the manga version of GTO? It's basically just better in every way.
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LordoftheMorons
10/03/17 10:50:43 PM
#76:


Mac Arrowny posted...
Have you read the manga version of GTO? It's basically just better in every way.

Can confirm this is true
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 10:52:12 PM
#77:


Well, the manga actually finished (I assume), so that's a major step above the anime to begin with.
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 11:42:40 PM
#78:


Now playing: Hoshi no Kanadera Uta (Steins;Gate 0 ED)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBxV0Ql1G8


I dunno what it is about this song, but I never get tired of it.
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Mac Arrowny
10/04/17 12:04:02 AM
#79:


I'm actually playing SG0 right now! Two endings down so far. Got the bad end first, and then the, uh, abortive end that happens if you haven't gotten another ending first.
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LeonhartFour
10/04/17 12:06:05 AM
#80:


I think I mostly got all the endings in the order you were "supposed" to get them, although I was rotating between like four files at once. I would save every time there was a divergence, and then go back and forth between them until I hit an ending.
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LordoftheMorons
10/04/17 12:44:21 AM
#81:


Starting the final dungeon in P5!
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LeonhartFour
10/04/17 12:45:21 AM
#82:


Aw yeah

...don't try to finish it in one sitting unless you have a lot of time to spare
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dowolf
10/04/17 12:57:08 AM
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LeonhartFour posted...
I think I mostly got all the endings in the order you were "supposed" to get them, although I was rotating between like four files at once. I would save every time there was a divergence, and then go back and forth between them until I hit an ending.

I think the only "intended" bit was that you get the worst ending first. Other than that, with the exception of the true end, it's hard to see any intended order imho.
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LeonhartFour
10/04/17 1:02:15 AM
#84:


Well, I don't really want to delve too deeply into spoiler territory on this at the moment, but I got both of the endings where Okabe becomes Hououin Kyouma again last, which felt like the "right" way to do it.
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LordoftheMorons
10/04/17 4:22:05 AM
#85:


All confidants maxed!

Looks like I won't finish tonight, but hopefully I'll be able to tomorrow
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LeonhartFour
10/04/17 12:02:42 PM
#86:


That scene where your last Confidant gets maxed is so great.
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Mac Arrowny
10/04/17 12:06:03 PM
#87:


Does Zero have a different artist from the first Steins;Gate VN? I feel like the characters looked quite a bit better in that.
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LeonhartFour
10/04/17 12:11:10 PM
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It's the same artist. I didn't really notice any difference in art quality myself.
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LeonhartFour
10/04/17 3:39:54 PM
#89:


Looks like Professor Layton is getting a 26-episode anime next year. I guess I need to get back to this series soon.

Very excited about the new Full Metal Panic! series next year, too!
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LordoftheMorons
10/04/17 3:42:06 PM
#90:


Layton had an anime movie that was okay
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LeonhartFour
10/04/17 3:44:17 PM
#91:


I came to McDonald's because the internet at home went out, and there's a large group of old people here playing Bingo.

debating whether or not I should take a chance and ask if they'll let me play too
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dowolf
10/04/17 4:08:54 PM
#92:


Mac Arrowny posted...
Does Zero have a different artist from the first Steins;Gate VN? I feel like the characters looked quite a bit better in that.

Everything is a bit duller, especially the eyes. I think it's intentional, and I like it.
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Leonhart4
10/04/17 4:16:10 PM
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The characters are not as sparkly as the original game, yeah.
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LeonhartFour
10/04/17 5:57:44 PM
#94:


I just discovered this a little bit ago because of SHINE posting it in that FF topic, but I started watching this series of (presumably still ongoing; there are five videos out at present and he's moving at a relatively slow pace based on the first two) videos about the FFVII translation. He goes into some pretty intricate details about some of the nuances and differences between the English and Japanese versions. Language stuff has always fascinated me, and this might be something up dowolf's alley, too (assuming he hasn't already looked into something like this).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZefYEaNUJ7w


unbelievable but Kotaku actually put out something worth watching
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pjbasis
10/04/17 6:02:15 PM
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LeonhartFour
10/04/17 7:16:36 PM
#96:


okay that Domino's/Pizza Hut reference just blew my mind
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LeonhartFour
10/04/17 7:25:32 PM
#97:


Also, while this guy is clearly a Cloud/Aerith shipper (Cloud/Tifa all the way), I think he's right in that Aerith is a very underappreciated character. Crisis Core and Kingdom Hearts both turned her into kind of a pure-hearted innocent maiden, and she's not like that at all in FFVII. She has a cheeky, teasing, street-smart side to her personality (as well as an outright fearless side) that I hope doesn't get lost in the Remake.
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xp1337
10/04/17 11:46:41 PM
#98:


LeonhartFour posted...
Now playing: Hoshi no Kanadera Uta (Steins;Gate 0 ED)

signs of vgmc's demise grew when i nominated this last time and got zero support

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Tales of Berseria: Game beated.

Really excellent game. Pretty great ending. Once the Innominat reveal happened, I moved on to figuring Laphicet would become Maotelus somehow. Probably in a "there must always be a lich king" way, so I was right about that, but it still felt quite well done. Didn't see Velvet's plan coming though. Armatized Artorius felt like a bit of a let-down, the prior fight when they were separate felt way more intense, both from a story standpoint and also from a gameplay standpoint. mainly because enemy cast times are so fast on chaos that with a 10-hit guard it's basically uninterruptible. They also had cooler Mystic Artes individually. But I'm just nitpicking here, obviously.

So now I'm on postgame. I did the cameo battle and that was... an adventure. I wasn't really in the mood for BS at this point so I switched to Hard pretty fast... but then I tried to win in max style with Velvet's Level 3 Mystic Arte. But it didn't finish it off and she got killed immediately after. And since I don't roll that way I restarted. ...Only to have the exact same thing happen again. just couldn't resist the temptation for style. i was mad at this point so i kicked it down to moderate because i had already established i could win and finally resisted the temptation. Silly fight though, felt like a huge grind. Wasn't really that fun. I blame Millia. They're both absurdly tanky but Unknown type is just BS on top of that. The fights were fine when they were fought individually but they became absurd tanks in this one.

Anyway looks like I still have at least one more quest to go~

Not sure how much is left to Berseria but right now my plan is to go to Danganronpa V3 once I'm finished. After that I will reassess based on when exactly that is. .hack//G.U. Last Recode has ultimate priority over literally everything but depending on how much time I have maybe I can fit something short after that?
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LeonhartFour
10/04/17 11:48:37 PM
#99:


xp1337 posted...
signs of vgmc's demise grew when i nominated this last time and got zero support


I tested the song out on the prime representative of the VGMC demographic (read: Ed Bellis) and he said he didn't like it, so I knew it wouldn't gain any traction.
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Mac Arrowny
10/04/17 11:57:34 PM
#100:


I thought Berseria got weaker in the last third or so, once Artorius starts getting more villainous. Not that it ever got bad, and everything in their was pretty good, but the main squad becoming more of the good guys was pretty sad. I also never liked Phi much, though most people really seem to like him a lot. Oh well.
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pyresword
10/05/17 12:01:28 AM
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Tales of Berseria

Yeah I also thought Artorius's position on the good/evil scale should have been more ambiguous. I don't think it ended up as a huge problem or anything though.
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