Board 8 > Jeff Zero & Leonhart in Different Houses: Trails of Arcadia Edition [JZLF]

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LeonhartFour
10/02/17 1:34:06 AM
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When will Jeff Zero make his glorious return to this topic series?










Loved it, seen it more than once

Clannad
Cowboy Bebop
Full Metal Panic!
Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
Kanon
Kawai Complex Guide to Manors and Hostel Behavior
My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU
Persona 4 The Animation
ReLIFE
Sailor Moon
School Rumble
Steins;Gate
The Disappearance of Yuki Nagato
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
Toradora!
Working!! (In the middle of a re-watch, so close enough)

Really liked it, will watch again

Ace Attorney (when the dub comes out)
Angel Beats
Attack on Titan
Baccano
Eureka Seven
Planetes
Psycho-Pass
Usagi Drop

Liked it, but probably won't watch again

Air
Azumanga Daioh
Great Teacher Onizuka
Love Hina
Mobile Suit Gundam 00
Ouran High School Host Club
Sweetness & Lightning
Trigun
Your Lie in April

Didn't like it, definitely won't watch again

Beyond the Boundary
Code Geass
Persona 4 The Golden Animation

Dropped it, never finished

Fullmetal Alchemist
Gurren Lagann
Slayers

New and Improved Female Character Rankings 2.0:

Yakumo > Kurisu > Chizuru > Yukiko > Aqua > Makoto > Mitsuru > Yui > Shiori > Akane > Pepper > Amy > Namine > Yurippe > Mikasa > Eureka > Art3mis > Valentine > Zelda > Vera > Elizabeth > Cora > Kotori
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pyresword
10/02/17 1:36:35 AM
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But options 5, 9, and 10 are the same though...

Fortunately option 2 is the one I went with anyways.
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Arti
10/02/17 1:54:08 AM
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#SaveEstelle
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EstelleBright
10/02/17 1:55:09 AM
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Estelle needs no one to save her. I do the saving around here.
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JoshuaAstray
10/02/17 1:57:29 AM
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pyresword posted...
But options 5, 9, and 10 are the same though...

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KloeRinz
10/02/17 2:00:12 AM
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What an inferior account.

Like someone who's trying too hard to look cool.
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JoshuaAstray
10/02/17 2:02:42 AM
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KloeRinz posted...
What an inferior account.

Like someone who's trying too hard to look cool.

Let's not get into an account war, princess. Papa isn't here to save you this time.
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Aika
10/02/17 2:04:07 AM
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I have plenty of ammunition for an account war, including better names.

poor soul who couldn't get the superior Joshua name
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Nanako_Dojima
10/02/17 2:07:07 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W75QxHgpoM

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Mitsuru-senpai
10/02/17 2:09:56 AM
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LOL underscore account

I should execute you on the spot
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LeonhartFour
10/02/17 3:46:03 PM
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The Mana Sword
10/02/17 3:46:33 PM
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X-2 Besaid > X Besaid club reporting in
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Loewe4
10/02/17 3:47:17 PM
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look at all these inferior Trails accounts
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KotomiIchinose
10/02/17 3:47:50 PM
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The Mana Sword
10/02/17 3:48:27 PM
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on second thought maybe this topic series isn't for me
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LeonhartFour
10/02/17 3:49:02 PM
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LeonhartFour
10/02/17 3:59:31 PM
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it didn't take long to run transience out of here even with the allure of Jeff Zero playing Shadow Hearts

(which he never finished but that'll be the first thing he does when he comes back)
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The Mana Sword
10/02/17 4:03:39 PM
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I think I scare a little less easily than he does but we'll see!
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LeonhartFour
10/02/17 5:03:53 PM
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yeah his old man sensibilities can't handle some of the stuff that goes down in here

like slice of life anime
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Arti
10/02/17 5:05:26 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
it didn't take long to run transience out of here even with the allure of Jeff Zero playing Shadow Hearts

(which he never finished but that'll be the first thing he does when he comes back)

but what if he never comes back
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LeonhartFour
10/02/17 5:09:38 PM
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pjbasis
10/02/17 6:36:20 PM
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Slice of life anime scares me too but I can peek in now and then.
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pyresword
10/02/17 6:41:50 PM
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FFX Besaid >>> FFX-2 Besaid
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LeonhartFour
10/02/17 6:47:17 PM
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dowolf
10/02/17 8:28:41 PM
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I feel like the FFX-2 theme gets a decent amount of respect in VGMC? Like, there is a small contingent that just doesn't like piano music, but other than that it does OK.
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xp1337
10/02/17 8:33:33 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
spoilers option 3 is probably the correct answer

it absolutely is

Re: VGMC. VGMC enjoyed a brief era of glory that peaked with the victory of EXEC_SPHILIA/. It was still pretty good for a contest or two after but has, of recent times, degenerated into a wretched hive of scum and villainy. I try to fight the good fight and restore us to those treasured days but it has gone increasingly... poorly.

Seriously though, I think it's that we lost a number of previous regular voters and while we picked up a few new voters, we're still down from those days and without those voters the songs that win have shifted.

also i have no idea what's going on with those accounts and i'm not sure i want to
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LeonhartFour
10/02/17 8:39:35 PM
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all those EXEC songs were the harbinger of VGMC's downfall actually

I think the fact that casual stuff has increasingly done worse is the reason why the vote totals continue to go down, but the more casual voters leave, the worse casual stuff does. It's a self-perpetuating vicious cycle.

dowolf posted...
I feel like the FFX-2 theme gets a decent amount of respect in VGMC? Like, there is a small contingent that just doesn't like piano music, but other than that it does OK.


I think it got in a couple times and didn't do very well either time. I could be mistaken though. Piano songs have done well enough to retire and even win contests in VGMC, so I don't think it's just that.
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pyresword
10/02/17 8:44:45 PM
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The most recent VGMC was a step up from the past few imo. There were some bad results here and there, but I at least liked all of the retirees, and there were definitely some top tier songs in the retirees as well. (Whereabouts of Light, Six Feet Thunder, maybe Emil Karma)

The Nanako account is me, but I'm afraid I can't offer any more insight than that.
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LeonhartFour
10/02/17 8:51:31 PM
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All the good named accounts are mine.

I enjoyed ToC2 despite the fact that the main contest that year was awful. It almost felt like they were two different voter pools with how the results played out. I guess it helped that the ToC has a better selection of songs to begin with.
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xp1337
10/02/17 8:56:49 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
all those EXEC songs were the harbinger of VGMC's downfall actually

i feel like you are low-key blaming me for the downfall of vgmc given my hand in a lot of that >_>

not all of it though.

Tales of Berseria:

I finished sidequesting around the world (for now) and am now in what I presume to be the final dungeon. We'll see if a bunch more sidequests pop at the very end of the final dungeon as Tales games are wont to do, but a bunch of trophies popped during the batch of sidequests I just did so maybe not, feels like you'd hold the trophies back until the end.

Sidequest Stuff: Turtlez still the absolute best. lmao that guy. The Xillia 2 references are still goddamn hilarious, although the Zestiria pre-fight cutscene was still the best one. Turtlez absolutey best NPC hands-down. Phoenix also a great sidequest just for Eizen cutting him off in his monologue with "What the hell is wrong with you?" and later the super-serious "I don't have to take this from you!"

Otherwise, let's see what I remember. Velvet's sidequest where she explains the quiche recipe to Niko's dogs telling them they have to pass it on to her because she won't be going where Niko was was pretty touching. Eleanor's was great too, especially when she nearly went nuts against the troll that killed her mom. Laphicet, Eizen, Rokurou, and Magilou also had pretty good ones. Zaveid's quest was one of the better ones too, especially with the slow/sad part of his theme being the battle theme against the dragon. Return to the Earthpulse and seeing more of Seres's past, especially the last scene where she spoke with the still emotionless Laphicet was excellent.

As for the combat side of things. Phoenix was kinda BS given my self-imposed restrictions, so I dialed it down to Hard for that one fight. In retrospect I feel like if I had used an All-Divide I could have done it on Chaos with my other rules. Put that idea into practice against Turtlez since I assumed based on Zestiria he'd be nuts again and was proven right. With an All-Divide the fight was easy even on Chaos. I ate a Mystic Arte for my trouble doing that though. he also stole all my gels (that i'm not using lol). Still the best NPC, lmao.


Final (probably) Dungeon looks really cool so far and I like how the theme also carries into the battles. Didn't get very far into it though. Just advanced a room or so to get to the save point. I was hoping that the Zestiria Final Dungeon theme would make a comeback at the Empyrean's Throne, but alas.
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LeonhartFour
10/02/17 9:01:51 PM
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it certainly didn't help

although I think it's the most bittersweet when a song retires from a game or series I like, but I don't like the song

like Starry Heavens retiring for Tales of Symphonia that one year augh

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LeonhartFour
10/02/17 10:21:15 PM
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I'm finished up with Working!! season 1. I feel sad that I won't hear that OP anymore. I feel like the OPs and EDs gradually get worse with each season (well, maybe season 2's ED is better than season 1's, but it's close). Not that any of them are bad, really. Such a fun show though.
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BK_Sheikah00
10/03/17 12:05:14 AM
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xp1337 posted...
Tales of Berseria:

I finished sidequesting around the world (for now) and am now in what I presume to be the final dungeon. We'll see if a bunch more sidequests pop at the very end of the final dungeon as Tales games are wont to do, but a bunch of trophies popped during the batch of sidequests I just did so maybe not, feels like you'd hold the trophies back until the end.

Sidequest Stuff: Turtlez still the absolute best. lmao that guy. The Xillia 2 references are still goddamn hilarious, although the Zestiria pre-fight cutscene was still the best one. Turtlez absolutey best NPC hands-down. Phoenix also a great sidequest just for Eizen cutting him off in his monologue with "What the hell is wrong with you?" and later the super-serious "I don't have to take this from you!"

Otherwise, let's see what I remember. Velvet's sidequest where she explains the quiche recipe to Niko's dogs telling them they have to pass it on to her because she won't be going where Niko was was pretty touching. Eleanor's was great too, especially when she nearly went nuts against the troll that killed her mom. Laphicet, Eizen, Rokurou, and Magilou also had pretty good ones. Zaveid's quest was one of the better ones too, especially with the slow/sad part of his theme being the battle theme against the dragon. Return to the Earthpulse and seeing more of Seres's past, especially the last scene where she spoke with the still emotionless Laphicet was excellent.

As for the combat side of things. Phoenix was kinda BS given my self-imposed restrictions, so I dialed it down to Hard for that one fight. In retrospect I feel like if I had used an All-Divide I could have done it on Chaos with my other rules. Put that idea into practice against Turtlez since I assumed based on Zestiria he'd be nuts again and was proven right. With an All-Divide the fight was easy even on Chaos. I ate a Mystic Arte for my trouble doing that though. he also stole all my gels (that i'm not using lol). Still the best NPC, lmao.


Final (probably) Dungeon looks really cool so far and I like how the theme also carries into the battles. Didn't get very far into it though. Just advanced a room or so to get to the save point. I was hoping that the Zestiria Final Dungeon theme would make a comeback at the Empyrean's Throne, but alas.

I feel like I enjoyed Zestiria way more than I should have thanks to all the Berseria stuff.
- Biggest gripe in Zestiria would have been Siegfried being super convenient, but Berseria kinda addresses it, but it's still a huge mystery that no one really knows how it works.
- I was pleasantly surprised to find out Zaveid's quest in Berseria actually had a huge impact on him and he now believed in killing to save Hellions. All thanks to Eizen.
- When I first met Edna, I immediately noticed Phoenix on her umbrella and I was always looking forward to when he would finally wake up or react.
- Wondering whether Rose would at all be related to Rangetsu Style. She does shout Rangetsu Ryu when she does her Mystic Arte in Japanese.
- Made me curious whether Magilou was also a Storyteller considering all the books she was carrying.
- Final dungeon in Zestiria actually name dropping both Artorius and Innominat. I was definitely not expecting that.
. Sadly couldn't find anything relevant for Eleanor, unless she was the inspiration for the Valkyries.
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 12:48:49 AM
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By the way, doesn't Trails of Arcadia (or maybe Skies of Liberl?) sound like an awesome crossover? Sega should totally make that happen. I guess they could technically crossover with Persona now, but that'd never happen! If I ever got back into writing fanfiction, I'd love to do Ace Attorney crossover stuff because the possibilities with that are endless. I've got some ideas for a Metal Gear crossover (Turnabout Snake?! or maybe The Solid Turnabout), but I'll probably never write it.

Anyway, I played a little Trails FC, mostly doing some Guild requests so I can earn some money, unlock Orbal slots, and get better equipment. I'm about to head to the Malga Mine to do the mayor's request. While I like that Trails in general discourages grinding by scaling EXP, it sucks when you decide to come back to something once you've gained a few levels, and now you get 8 EXP for beating 7 monsters. I'd forgotten all the struggles of being a Junior Bracer. I can't wait until I get that Quartz that makes it so enemies on the map can't see you. That thing was the best.
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 12:54:05 AM
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Also, I still don't really like playing games on my PC, even with a PS4 controller and connecting it to my TV. I feel like there's something inherently less enjoyable about it for me, but maybe it's just because I'm not used to it. Maybe it'll grow on me by the time I'm done with all these games.
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LordoftheMorons
10/03/17 6:18:05 AM
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Finally got to the Palace 7 deadline
Hopefully I'll finish soon
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The Mana Sword
10/03/17 9:41:46 AM
#38:


xp1337 posted...
Final (probably) Dungeon looks really cool so far


bless your heart
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 12:02:22 PM
#39:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Finally got to the Palace 7 deadline
Hopefully I'll finish soon


Activate the hype machine

I guess I need to activate the hype machine in here too because for all the begging for me to play more Trails nobody wants to talk about it
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The Mana Sword
10/03/17 12:05:53 PM
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I played the first half-ish of Trails 1 like 6 and a half years ago

who's hyped
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 12:06:39 PM
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wow sounds like someone was ahead of the curve and then fell behind the curve
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The Mana Sword
10/03/17 12:09:37 PM
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I think I was mostly hyped for the US PSP release because of Silver Will in the VGMC, so I was in day 1.

The game moved at a pace too slow to really keep my interest though.
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 12:11:35 PM
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Yeah, it's definitely slow at first, but I feel like most JRPGs are. I'm trying to think of a JRPG that doesn't take a little time to get off the ground, actually.
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The Mana Sword
10/03/17 12:13:49 PM
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I'm generally pretty forgiving about that stuff, but like I said I played through about half the game and still didn't feel like things had really picked up. Between the story's pace and the plodding speed the battles moved at, I wasn't feeling it. It's too bad because I did like the characters, but not enough to keep pushing on I guess.
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pyresword
10/03/17 12:14:36 PM
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I am hyped for The 3rd! The first game though isn't especially hype-inducing especially when everyone involved anyway knows everything that happens :/
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 12:15:07 PM
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Hmm...I can generally push through gameplay faults and shortcomings as long as I enjoy the characters and the story. FC is a very structured game, perhaps almost to a fault. I think SC is way better.
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 12:19:07 PM
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pyresword posted...
I am hyped for The 3rd! The first game though isn't especially hype-inducing especially when everyone involved anyway knows everything that happens :/


I'm guessing you're not big on ranking list topics then! Talking about stuff everyone is already familiar with is probably more fun than someone experiencing it for the first time because you don't have to walk on eggshells when discussing it!
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pyresword
10/03/17 12:25:43 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
pyresword posted...
I am hyped for The 3rd! The first game though isn't especially hype-inducing especially when everyone involved anyway knows everything that happens :/


I'm guessing you're not big on ranking list topics then! Talking about stuff everyone is already familiar with is probably more fun than someone experiencing it for the first time because you don't have to walk on eggshells when discussing it!

I like ranking list topics, but I like those for different reasons, and I just think that format is a lot better at generating discussion between people who have finished the game or whatever it is
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 12:26:55 PM
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pyresword
10/03/17 12:52:28 PM
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noooo that wasn't what I meant I was just explaining why I wasn't saying anything ;_;
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LeonhartFour
10/03/17 12:59:04 PM
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as much as I talk to myself in this topic that isn't by design

I prefer to talk to myself in real life not on message boards

Anyway, VGM segue since we've been talking about it so much lately: I usually like to listen to music whenever I'm reading something. Last few days I've been listening to stuff from the Spirit of Justice OST. I'm reading the Kawai Complex manga at the moment, so my song of choice right now is "Inherited Hopes."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm0r101Mkko


I usually listen to the extended versions when I'm reading stuff so I don't have to change songs all the time. I might go out for a walk once this is over with since I want to start getting back into shape. I rode my bike a couple times last week, but I also want to work up to doing some running. I used to love to run races when I was younger, but I've never been a long-distance runner, so it feels kind of daunting for me to try to get into, so I might just do some long walks this week, and then start ramping it up into running a little bit more at a time. I'll probably listen to one of my sports podcasts while I do that. Might try a bike ride tomorrow and just switch back and forth between the two.
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