Board 8 > Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius Topic 38 - Hack to the Future

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crazygamer999
10/04/17 7:09:54 AM
#201:


...i'll throw half of my tix horde.

Ayaka is an upgrade but not totally essential for me cause Tillith.

Goken looks neat, but if finisher, I have Luneth and Baha so no real need.

That sword mage however... sprite looks awesome AND we got mage sword TM for my Ashes and Freyvja.

Rest look neat but bleh.
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Fiyun
10/04/17 7:25:42 AM
#202:


Kamui is our only fire tmr.
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RaidenZeroX
10/04/17 7:30:58 AM
#203:


Was hoping for a few more weeks, but the time is (almost) now!
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Fiyun
10/04/17 9:17:08 AM
#204:


Ah...

A quick reminder. If you don't get Sylvia, Drace(4*) will have a comparable sword(80 ATK 100 MAG Sword, +10% MP) in the future on the next FF12 banner.
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RaidenZeroX
10/04/17 9:24:16 AM
#205:


Syvia is.... 100 Atk, 84 mag?

If I'm remembering that correctly, Drace's seems like a pretty big improvement for hybrid users. Either of them will outdamage and outmag a Mateus' Malice build. Going to be rough getting rid of that extra HP though.
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Horith
10/04/17 9:55:55 AM
#206:


Still gonna pull for Sylvia, but probably won't pull as hard if that sword is showing up anytime soon. That 10% MP is for sure worth losing 4 Mag.

Just wish Sylvia wasn't stuck on a banner with another 4* unit that I most definitely don't want.
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voltch
10/05/17 1:28:58 AM
#207:


70 tickets

Temptation to pull is high for ayaka, but if I save till around new year's, then I'll reach maybe 200 of them.
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RaidenZeroX
10/05/17 7:15:49 AM
#208:


voltch posted...
70 tickets

Temptation to pull is high for ayaka, but if I save till around new year's, then I'll reach maybe 200 of them.


Do you have Tilith? She can mostly hold up, but Ayaka is a lot better. If you don't plan on doing any of the harder content you really won't need Ayaka, but from what I've been told from JP players you need either her or CG Fina to avoid having a lot of issues with the harder content.
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The Mana Sword
10/05/17 7:33:22 AM
#209:


I expect to get Ayaka on my first daily pull, so Im good.
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RaidenZeroX
10/05/17 7:51:53 AM
#210:


The Mana Sword posted...
I expect to get Ayaka on my first daily pull, so Im good.


Good luck! When you get her on your first daily and I don't get her with 118 tickets, a 4* ticket, and 55k lapis, I will be directing all of the salt at you!
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voltch
10/05/17 8:15:21 AM
#211:


Cg sakura i will go hard on.

I'm resigned to the fact that I'm not going after beatrix. I love her, but she's too similar to 2b.
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The Mana Sword
10/05/17 8:27:40 AM
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RaidenZeroX
10/05/17 8:33:47 AM
#213:


CG Sakura is the next one I'm stocking for. I still haven't been able to figure out if she's a unit that it's good to have multiples of. Other than that, I'm considering Sephiroth. I hate him as a character, but he chains well with so many characters so he'd get a lot of use.
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crazygamer999
10/05/17 10:41:45 AM
#214:


burned the 10+1

got jack

I knew the two rainbows would bite me later
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RaidenZeroX
10/05/17 10:58:33 AM
#215:


Save the 10+1 tickets. They don't apply to any specific banner, so you can have a much better chance at getting a rainbow if they're saved for the rate up.
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The Mana Sword
10/05/17 11:49:57 AM
#216:


Finished the story. Final boss was very NeoExdeath. The boss fights were all very easy for this update, though. Nothing like Behemoth and Sol from Land of Crystals. Everyone was easily one-shot.

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WhiteLens
10/05/17 2:36:55 PM
#217:


Oh we get Overflow on energy now.

Well, no more worrying over wasted energy on rank ups now.
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Fiyun
10/05/17 4:24:31 PM
#218:


Blah. IRL-stuff, so lower priority. ._.

Bahamut

Strategy 1.

Primary Units: Garnet/Eiko/Yuna

Using a Friend unit with Bahamut equipped to kill Bahamut in one turn with a chained up Bahamut. Requires Summoner Magic + 10% equipped on the unit that is going to be summoning (Recipe - in Olderion City).

Note our Garnet is 20% stronger before *6.

Strategy 2.

Beating down Bahamut with Mistair eating up Megaflares etc. Requires:

High % Mag Break (Knight Delita, Ramza,

Increased Fire, Ice, and Lightning Resistances

Paralysis Resistance

A team that can do ~20% damage per turn.

Turn 1 - MegaFlare

Turn 2 - Lighning Attack, Normal Attack, Countdown 3

Turn 3 - Blizzard Attack, Normal Attack, Countdown 2

Turn 4 - Atomic Ray (Fire Attack), Dispelga, Normal attack, Countdown 1 + AoE Paralysis

It repeats after turn 4. Thresholds (only on turn that it goes below the threshold):

80% - Additional Lightning Attack

60% - Additional Blizzard Attack

40% - Additional Fire Attack

20% - Additional Megaflare (weak version)

If the threshold is the same turn as Turn 1 above (strong Megaflare), Bahamut will only do a strong megaflare. The threshold attacks will be shifted to the turn after (turn 2).

<20% - Every turn has a weak megaflare added (unlike the previous turns).

Try to kill him in one turn at this point. Otherwise it will be very painful.

WARNING

Crossing multiple thresholds at once = STACKED THRESHOLD ATTACKS. High probability of wiping. DO NOT CROSS MULTIPLE THRESHOLDS. This is why ~20% attack team is the best, that way you only cross one threshold at a time.

Battle Plan

Surviving First Turn

The first turn Megaflare hurts:

Mag break him, preferably with a unit that does more than 45% mag break (Ramza Mind Break +2, Knight Delita, etc).

Build up limits BEFORE you go to fight Bahamut

Buff Def and SPR

Use damage reduction abilities (Earth Veritas, Mistair's LB, etc.)

Have AoE res units (Ayaka, Rikku, etc.) or AoE Re-raise (Rikku)

I recommend trying to survive the first turn rather than depending on AoE Re-raise/raise as if units die = buffs gone, next turn will be spent ressing + rebuffing etc.

Summoner Method Details

Very straight forward. Use Garnet/Eiko/Yuna with a friend unit with a maxed Bahamut equipped to one-shot the enemy Bahamut by topping off a chain.

Setup:

4 x 10% Summons Magic Up

Strong SPR debuff unit (Tim's LB is good for this)

2 x units that are good chain builders for 10+ elemental chains (OK, Orlandus, Shantottos, etc.)

Plan:

Build up Summon Gauge PRIOR to battle

SPR debuff Bahamut right away.

Time Bahamut to hit right when the elemental chain is 10+

and that is it!

Sounds easy right? Problem is Bahamut's long summon time = hard to hit the right spot. He may survive - I recommend having the other spots filled with STRONG dps units or using strong chainers, so even if the Bahamut damage hits at 9 chains (early is better than late!) they can finish him off.

Mistair Method Details

This is just using Mistair instead of any other tank - as her skill will take all of the Megaflare damage (plus sometimes even the other skills in the inbetween turns!). Keep Re-raise on her if you can.

Equip wise - stack primarily SPR and secondary DEF gear on Mistair, as she may even take the normal hits and such as a tank.

Be careful not to cross too many thresholds at once. It can HURT A LOT.


https://www.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/5s5imj/esper_guide_what_where_how/dh1355i/ Inb4Gumigumies.
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Horith
10/05/17 8:45:06 PM
#219:


So apparently the recommendation of the 'Should You Pull?' reviewer is to not pull on this banner. Goken's passives and active skillsets conflict, Silvia isn't even a poor-man's Fry, one 3* has to wait for her 6* awakening to release before being useable, and the other is only useful as TMR fodder. And good luck getting Ayaka.

Well that's a bit sobering. I figured Silvia wouldn't be great, but it's still disappointing to know she's pretty much useless as a unit.
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crazygamer999
10/05/17 8:50:17 PM
#220:


Eh, still burning half my tickets. My Fry and ashes would love that sword.
Also, Finally got my first Ribbon. Now to deal with that tentacled fiend...
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RaidenZeroX
10/05/17 9:32:35 PM
#221:


I generally don't pull for units (with the exception of Ayaka and CG Sakura when she's released now), I tend to go for the TMRs. Silvia will allow me to stop using Mateus' Malice on Fry and I should be able to push her over 1000 Mag
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The Mana Sword
10/05/17 9:33:54 PM
#222:


Im getting an itchy pulling finger, so I might spend some tickets and lapis tomorrow.

Not like Im saving up for anything.
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BakusaiTenketsu
10/05/17 9:37:24 PM
#223:


TMRs aren't even a consideration for me when I do pulls. It's more about what units are good out the box versus what needs gear to make them good. Since I can't TMR farm, I've never even given a thought as to what units have which TMRs, and when I get duplicate units, they automatically just get fused together.
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ChaosTonyV4
10/05/17 11:58:41 PM
#224:


Isn't current JP Meta literally "you need an Ayaka for the hardest stuff"?

Because then I feel like I should pull >_>
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Wanglicious
10/06/17 12:18:32 AM
#225:


i'll spend some tickets and i do consider TMRs, especially now that moogles can be fused.
but i won't be breaking the bank.

for me, the important thing is that tomorrow is the fan event in NYC and i'm going.
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voltch
10/06/17 1:51:21 AM
#226:


You guys are horrible, all this fever is gonna make end up going after the gurl.
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Wanglicious
10/06/17 7:18:49 AM
#227:


got Sylvia within 5 tickets.
tried a few more, went to trash.

well i think i've used as many tickets as i want to.
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crazygamer999
10/06/17 7:34:52 AM
#228:


Daily plus 3 gave me all blues :P

Will hold the other 11 until late in the event.
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The Mana Sword
10/06/17 7:40:27 AM
#229:


Spent some stuff, got a rainbow but it was an Olive.

Meh.
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RaidenZeroX
10/06/17 8:13:41 AM
#230:


After 112 tickets, a 4* ticket, and 2 10+1s...

https://imgur.com/a/l5pMI
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Horith
10/06/17 8:36:51 AM
#231:


Daily got me Yuri, 4* ticket nabbed a second Desch, and five regular tickets got me a second Kefka, Silvia, and Meliadoul. All in all, that's actually pretty good. I think I'll just stick with the dailies from now on, until the urge to pull that lever again calls to me.
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voltch
10/06/17 8:38:38 AM
#232:


6 tickets was the max i was willing to spend.

Deep blue.

Done until february
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The Mana Sword
10/06/17 9:25:44 AM
#233:


I think Ive decided I do actually want Ayaka, so Ill keep throwing pulls at this banner as we get more tickets and stuff. Hopefully the fan fiesta gets us some good loot.
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RaidenZeroX
10/06/17 9:33:12 AM
#234:


Ayaka is the true arena cancer. Im never losing an arena round again
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The Mana Sword
10/06/17 9:33:28 AM
#235:


Also, I hate playing the fusion game after doing a bunch of pulls. I wish there was a "fuse all unlocked dupes" button or something.
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Horith
10/06/17 9:57:20 AM
#236:


Bah, that didn't last long. Sudden urge to do a 10+1. Got another Kefka, Aria, my fourth King, and Goken out of it.
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The Mana Sword
10/06/17 9:58:09 AM
#237:


The allure of the pull is strong.
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Shadow Dino
10/06/17 10:02:35 AM
#238:


Got a whole lotta nothing out of the pulls I've done so far
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RaidenZeroX
10/06/17 10:03:04 AM
#239:


Mine is down to nothing again. Itll probably hit again after the rate up or maybe Mistair.

Is Basch the best tank in JP? Ive heard he does both Mag and physical.
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Fiyun
10/06/17 10:08:21 AM
#240:


Basch does 75% AoE Phys.

Or magical 75% AoE mag.

Can't do both at the same time.

Only enhanced WoL/Mistair/Silt matches that.

Edit: Chamber of crystals got more lapis now.
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Horith
10/06/17 10:26:45 AM
#241:


The Mana Sword posted...
The allure of the pull is strong.


Indeed it is. No idea how people save so many tickets and lapis. My will is just not that strong.
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RaidenZeroX
10/06/17 10:31:16 AM
#242:


Damn, thanks. I was hoping there was a super tank that would replace the others.
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RaidenZeroX
10/06/17 10:43:50 AM
#243:


Horith posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
The allure of the pull is strong.


Indeed it is. No idea how people save so many tickets and lapis. My will is just not that strong.


I was that way early on, but then I realized there were specific units that I wanted, so that made me start saving. Ive found it hard to even do daily 250s on most of the recent banners because I want to build up more lapis.
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The Mana Sword
10/06/17 10:45:21 AM
#244:


Yeah its easier to save when there are units you really want.

Now that there arent any for me, Im finding harder to save, which is why I spent most of my stash chasing Ayaka.
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The Mana Sword
10/06/17 11:06:19 AM
#245:


"quality sugar"
"delicious water"

I didn't know Ayaka was a druglord.
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voltch
10/06/17 11:41:25 AM
#246:


pulling makes you feel so good for the first few, then you enter depression after you go like 100 without getting anything.
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RaidenZeroX
10/06/17 11:53:54 AM
#247:


You just have to keep going. Sometimes it takes 135 pulls to get the job done!
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The Mana Sword
10/06/17 11:56:27 AM
#248:


I just realized I still didn't get another damn Snow from the ~80 pulls I did today, and I got way above the average amount of golds.
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Horith
10/06/17 12:13:45 PM
#249:


The Mana Sword posted...
Yeah its easier to save when there are units you really want.

Now that there arent any for me, Im finding harder to save, which is why I spent most of my stash chasing Ayaka.


And that's where I'm at. There are units that I would like to have, but they're in the pool already. Those that are out there look like they'd be nice, but I doubt they're so amazing that they're absolute must-haves. People can rave about CG Sakura and Fina all they want, but unless they absolutely break current content, I'm not sure I see the point in chasing them other than to have the next big shiny. I'd rather pull steadily and get my satisfaction of cracking that crystal, rather than sit on a hundred tickets on the off-chance I won't be disappointed.
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voltch
10/06/17 12:49:19 PM
#250:


including daily, it was Yuri, lawrence, edge, arc, amarant, Kaui, Xiao.

Welp!
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