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wackyteen
09/23/17 1:25:32 PM
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http://amazonseek.com/state-lawmakers-solution-for-pregnant-workers-you-can-quit/

On Monday, eight male lawmakers in South Dakota voted down a bill that would have required reasonable accommodations for pregnant employees so that they can safely stay at work.

Rather than offering protections against discrimination, unsafe conditions, and getting fired, one of the guys needed a different alternative for pregnant workers. “It is not prison.

“You have a choice daily. You make a decision whether you come to work,” he went on. “And I am here to tell you, if a person is not enabling you to breastfeed at work or making proper accommodations on the job, we could pass this legislation, but you do not want to work for this man. Get the hell out of there.”

Discrimination against pregnant workers, such as shooting someone for getting pregnant or needing to extend her the identical work accommodations that disabled employees can use, is already against national law. The Supreme Court also sided with a previously pregnant UPS worker who sued her employer for refusing to give her light duty that was accessible to injured and disabled employees.

But many pregnant workers simply require small changes to have the ability to continue to function while protecting their health, such as more frequent bathroom breaks, a stool to sit on, or the ability to drink water at work. Nearly two-thirds of first-time moms work during their pregnancies, and the majority need some kind of modification to keep doing this. Nevertheless an estimated quarter million girls have their orders for these modifications rejected annually, and even more do not even ask for fear of jeopardizing their jobs.

To alter this landscape, 18 states and Washington, D.C. have passed bills that have come to be called pregnant employees equity functions, or laws requiring employers to grant those requests for modifications so pregnant workers can keep working unless they could prove it would be seriously detrimental to business. But in the other nations, it can be hard for pregnant employees who desire or need to keep working.


I can understand the logic but not everyone, especially in a small state like SD, can just go and get a new job, especially while fucking pregnant.
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CruelBuffalo
09/23/17 1:27:24 PM
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Discrimination against pregnant workers, such as shooting someone for getting pregnant Lol uuuuuuuh
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wackyteen
09/23/17 1:27:53 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Discrimination against pregnant workers, such as shooting someone for getting pregnant Lol uuuuuuuh

That was my reaction to that part of the article.

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Unsugarized_Foo
09/23/17 1:29:39 PM
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Shoot, I can do less work and get more benefits if I keep havin' babies? Suh-weet
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Mr_MacPhisto
09/23/17 1:29:56 PM
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This article seemed very slanted and poorly written.
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Medz1206
09/23/17 1:39:31 PM
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Who would of thought letting people work would save the government money
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Coffeebeanz
09/23/17 1:42:59 PM
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Discrimination against pregnant workers, such as shooting someone for getting pregnant

Um
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Bio1590
09/23/17 1:43:03 PM
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Medz1206 posted...
Who would of thought letting people work would save the government money

It’s not even that.

How can you expect women to start families if they’re not even guaranteed to keep their job for doing so? You’re basically destroying the future growth of your state/country.
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wackyteen
09/23/17 1:53:57 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
You’re basically destroying the future growth of your state/country.

Not very conservative of them
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ItsYourFault
09/23/17 1:56:13 PM
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jfc conservatives are stupid
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pkmnlord
09/23/17 1:58:29 PM
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How often are women getting shot for being pregnant that that's the first example they can think of when they think of discrimination towards pregnant women?
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Bio1590
09/23/17 2:02:23 PM
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pkmnlord posted...
How often are women getting shot for being pregnant that that's the first example they can think of when they think of discrimination towards pregnant women?

I think it’s maybe more “Hey, something this extreme and out there was thought of by someone and made illegal, why not something that impacts more people?”
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NibeIungsnarf
09/23/17 2:06:04 PM
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"We shouldn't make legislation forcing people to do something because if they don't already do it you're better off not working for them"


Like I don't even care to research this piece of legislation enough to see whether I agree or disagree with it, but look at this fucking beached whale of brain cancer logic.
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SGT_Conti
09/23/17 2:12:23 PM
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The context leads me to believe they meant firing someone for being pregnant and not shooting, but I really can't be sure. I certainly did a double-take and had to read it over a couple times.
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REMercsChamp
09/23/17 2:17:16 PM
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GOATTHlEF posted...
One of the best things about being a male is that I won't ever be shot for getting pregnant.

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butthole666
09/23/17 2:22:54 PM
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This article is written like shit but those lawmakers are idiots
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Knowledge_King
09/23/17 9:13:32 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
How can you expect women to start families if they’re not even guaranteed to keep their job for doing so? You’re basically destroying the future growth of your state/country.

Because families are more important than a job? Like the literal reason to work jobs is to provide for a family.
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thronedfire2
09/23/17 9:25:30 PM
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Knowledge_King posted...
Bio1590 posted...
How can you expect women to start families if they’re not even guaranteed to keep their job for doing so? You’re basically destroying the future growth of your state/country.

Because families are more important than a job? Like the literal reason to work jobs is to provide for a family.


..that's what he's saying. But women aren't going to start a family if they have to choose between that and being able to keep working if they need the money
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Bio1590
09/23/17 10:10:32 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Bio1590 posted...
How can you expect women to start families if they’re not even guaranteed to keep their job for doing so? You’re basically destroying the future growth of your state/country.

Because families are more important than a job? Like the literal reason to work jobs is to provide for a family.


..that's what he's saying. But women aren't going to start a family if they have to choose between that and being able to keep working if they need the money

Exactly. Basically it gives you two realistic options of starting your career and never having children, or having children (while likely not having very much money) and then attempting to start your career.
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Kaname_Madoka
09/23/17 10:12:46 PM
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wackyteen posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Discrimination against pregnant workers, such as shooting someone for getting pregnant Lol uuuuuuuh

That was my reaction to that part of the article.

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VipaGTS
09/23/17 10:13:06 PM
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Knowledge_King posted...
Bio1590 posted...
How can you expect women to start families if they’re not even guaranteed to keep their job for doing so? You’re basically destroying the future growth of your state/country.

Because families are more important than a job? Like the literal reason to work jobs is to provide for a family.

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Sayoria
09/23/17 10:26:13 PM
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No sympathy. You vote Republican, you live restricted. This was their choice.
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CADE FOSTER
09/23/17 10:30:34 PM
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they are anti abortion but shit on pregnant women jesus conservatives are just natural assholes
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Bio1590
09/23/17 10:33:04 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
they are anti abortion but shit on pregnant women jesus conservatives are just natural assholes

It fits perfectly in line with their goal of punishing women for having a vagina
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Questionmarktarius
09/25/17 1:59:59 PM
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“You have a choice daily. You make a decision whether you come to work,” he went on. “And I am here to tell you, if a person is not enabling you to breastfeed at work or making proper accommodations on the job, we could pass this legislation, but you do not want to work for this man. Get the hell out of there.”

This is correct though.
Compelling your boss, under penalty of law, to allow a chair at your workstation and/or a 'pump break' once or twice a day, isn't going to make him any less an inconsiderate asshole. May even boost you to the top of the layoff list, for "performance" reasons that are just barely not quite legally-defined gender discrimination.
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wackyteen
09/25/17 3:34:26 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
You have a choice daily. You make a decision whether you come to work, he went on. And I am here to tell you, if a person is not enabling you to breastfeed at work or making proper accommodations on the job, we could pass this legislation, but you do not want to work for this man. Get the hell out of there.

This is correct though.
Compelling your boss, under penalty of law, to allow a chair at your workstation and/or a 'pump break' once or twice a day, isn't going to make him any less an inconsiderate asshole. May even boost you to the top of the layoff list, for "performance" reasons that are just barely not quite legally-defined gender discrimination.

Like I said, I get the logic but not everyone can just go get a job, especially in SD
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CircleOfManias
09/25/17 3:54:09 PM
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wackyteen posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Discrimination against pregnant workers, such as shooting someone for getting pregnant Lol uuuuuuuh

That was my reaction to that part of the article.

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It's almost definitely a plagiarism bot that copies and pastes articles from other sites, swapping random words for synonyms to make it harder to detect.
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ChromaticAngel
09/25/17 3:58:14 PM
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"Hi, I see you list the reason for leaving your last job as 'Voluntarily quit' Is there any more you can add to that?"
"Yeah, he didn't let me make any accomodations to work while pregnant."
"Oh? But it says here you left this job 3 weeks ago. I assume you're still pregnant? When are you due?"
"In about 4 months. So, when can I start this job?"
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cerealbox760
09/25/17 4:05:54 PM
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This is why people move to the city and leave rural areas permanently. In the shorten run it benefits the employer. In the longer run it hurts the local economy.
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Hop103
09/25/17 4:07:11 PM
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How to get sued 101.
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HylianFox
09/25/17 4:13:09 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
they are anti abortion but shit on pregnant women jesus conservatives are just natural assholes

"Abortion is EVIL!"
"Okay, but you'll have to compensate me for being unable to work while pregnant"
"Hell no! You have to deal with your own horrible life choices!"

Republicanism in a nutshell
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Axiom
09/25/17 4:24:47 PM
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"I'm gonna take away your means of caring for your child but don't you fucking dare get an abortion"
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GhostOfTrayvon
09/25/17 4:29:13 PM
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HylianFox posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
they are anti abortion but shit on pregnant women jesus conservatives are just natural assholes

"Abortion is EVIL!"
"Okay, but you'll have to compensate me for being unable to work while pregnant"
"Hell no! You have to deal with your own horrible life choices!"

Republicanism in a nutshell

Maybe be responsible and don't get knocked up if you can't afford the child. I know, I know, that's too radical an idea.
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That_Happened
09/25/17 4:30:44 PM
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GhostOfTrayvon posted...
HylianFox posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
they are anti abortion but shit on pregnant women jesus conservatives are just natural assholes

"Abortion is EVIL!"
"Okay, but you'll have to compensate me for being unable to work while pregnant"
"Hell no! You have to deal with your own horrible life choices!"

Republicanism in a nutshell

Maybe be responsible and don't get knocked up if you can't afford the child. I know, I know, that's too radical an idea.

Needing maternity leave =/= "not being able to afford the child."
Not being allowed to breastfeed/pump during breaks =/= "not being able to afford the child."
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GhostOfTrayvon
09/25/17 4:32:13 PM
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That_Happened posted...
GhostOfTrayvon posted...
HylianFox posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
they are anti abortion but shit on pregnant women jesus conservatives are just natural assholes

"Abortion is EVIL!"
"Okay, but you'll have to compensate me for being unable to work while pregnant"
"Hell no! You have to deal with your own horrible life choices!"

Republicanism in a nutshell

Maybe be responsible and don't get knocked up if you can't afford the child. I know, I know, that's too radical an idea.

Needing maternity leave =/= "not being able to afford the child."
Not being allowed to breastfeed/pump during breaks =/= "not being able to afford the child."

If you don't have the money to afford the time off for those examples you shouldn't be having a child.
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Bio1590
09/25/17 4:32:52 PM
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Hi Hoth

Just because women wont even talk to you doesnt mean you have to hate them.
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That_Happened
09/25/17 4:33:47 PM
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GhostOfTrayvon posted...
If you don't have the money to afford the time off for those examples you shouldn't be having a child.

Again, it's not about money.

EDIT: Wait, is ghostoftrayvon a hoth account?
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GhostOfTrayvon
09/25/17 4:37:05 PM
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That_Happened posted...
GhostOfTrayvon posted...
If you don't have the money to afford the time off for those examples you shouldn't be having a child.

Again, it's not about money.

EDIT: Wait, is ghostoftrayvon a hoth account?

Nope, I have another account but it isn't Hoth or Franklin or any of those fam clowns.
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DifferentialEquation
09/25/17 4:37:21 PM
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HylianFox posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
they are anti abortion but shit on pregnant women jesus conservatives are just natural assholes

"Abortion is EVIL!"
"Okay, but you'll have to compensate me for being unable to work while pregnant"
"Hell no! You have to deal with your own horrible life choices!"

Republicanism in a nutshell


"Abortion should be legal."
"Then pay for it yourself."
" Nope! You gotta pay for it too! If you don't then you're denying me access to healthcare. Everything I want should be paid for by the evil 1% and if you disagree you're a sexist/racist/islamophobe/etc."

Leftists in a nutshell.
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NYmasajista
09/25/17 4:43:34 PM
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That_Happened posted...
GhostOfTrayvon posted...
If you don't have the money to afford the time off for those examples you shouldn't be having a child.

Again, it's not about money.

EDIT: Wait, is ghostoftrayvon a hoth account?

Doubt it hoth seems to be mid-twenties and ghostoftrayvon seems around 15-17 with his complaining about people talking about weed and lack of empathy and understanding of other like in this topic.

OT South Dakota is not of any importance unless you live there as there are at least ten cities in this nation with a higher population than that entire state.
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Tmaster148
09/25/17 4:44:37 PM
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NYmasajista posted...
Doubt it hoth seems to be mid-twenties


Idk. Hoth comes off as a young teen.
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ChromaticAngel
09/25/17 4:55:04 PM
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GhostOfTrayvon posted...
HylianFox posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
they are anti abortion but shit on pregnant women jesus conservatives are just natural assholes

"Abortion is EVIL!"
"Okay, but you'll have to compensate me for being unable to work while pregnant"
"Hell no! You have to deal with your own horrible life choices!"

Republicanism in a nutshell

Maybe be responsible and don't get knocked up if you can't afford the child. I know, I know, that's too radical an idea.

Great. Love this idea. I'm thinking we should set the minimum income for being allowed to have children at $200k a year combined if married and $300k if single parent, plus 50% for every additional child.
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GhostOfTrayvon
09/25/17 5:22:49 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
GhostOfTrayvon posted...
HylianFox posted...
CADE FOSTER posted...
they are anti abortion but shit on pregnant women jesus conservatives are just natural assholes

"Abortion is EVIL!"
"Okay, but you'll have to compensate me for being unable to work while pregnant"
"Hell no! You have to deal with your own horrible life choices!"

Republicanism in a nutshell

Maybe be responsible and don't get knocked up if you can't afford the child. I know, I know, that's too radical an idea.

Great. Love this idea. I'm thinking we should set the minimum income for being allowed to have children at $200k a year combined if married and $300k if single parent, plus 50% for every additional child.

Having a child should be a privilege not a right. Are you willing to argue that there aren't many unfit parents?
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That_Happened
09/25/17 5:58:16 PM
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GhostOfTrayvon posted...
Having a child should be a privilege not a right. Are you willing to argue that there aren't many unfit parents?

Don't pivot and backpedal. You said if you can't afford the time off it takes to raise a child, you shouldn't be having one. This does mean that only the rich would be having children. Do you think this is a reasonable position to have?
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GhostOfTrayvon
09/25/17 6:01:27 PM
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That_Happened posted...
GhostOfTrayvon posted...
Having a child should be a privilege not a right. Are you willing to argue that there aren't many unfit parents?

Don't pivot and backpedal. You said if you can't afford the time off it takes to raise a child, you shouldn't be having one. This does mean that only the rich would be having children. Do you think this is a reasonable position to have?

It doesn't mean you have to be "rich" to have a child. Nice attempt at a strawman. Yes having a child is a privilege and if you don't have the means to support the child then you weren't responsible enough in planning and having one.
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DevsBro
09/25/17 6:03:27 PM
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I'll never understand why women who lived decades ago wanted to give up the housewife gig so badly, tbh.
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OpheliaAdenade
09/25/17 6:07:55 PM
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DevsBro posted...
I'll never understand why women who lived decades ago wanted to give up the housewife gig so badly, tbh.


because being trapped in an empty house all day scrubbing pans and clipping coupons really sucks. Being completely dependent on your husband's job to support you with no skills of your own is akin to being trapped in a fancy gilded cage at the end of the day. It might sound like a perfect life from the outside looking in, but it wasn't for a lot of people.

Some girls were suited for it, others weren't. The ones that weren't were prescribed nerve pills (the origin of "mother's little helper") and told to deal with it. It was a ticking time bomb waiting to explode. :v
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Guide
09/25/17 6:11:11 PM
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GhostOfTrayvon posted...
That_Happened posted...
GhostOfTrayvon posted...
Having a child should be a privilege not a right. Are you willing to argue that there aren't many unfit parents?

Don't pivot and backpedal. You said if you can't afford the time off it takes to raise a child, you shouldn't be having one. This does mean that only the rich would be having children. Do you think this is a reasonable position to have?

It doesn't mean you have to be "rich" to have a child. Nice attempt at a strawman. Yes having a child is a privilege and if you don't have the means to support the child then you weren't responsible enough in planning and having one.


So you support abortion in these cases, or just having a child without income?
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