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davidponte
09/25/17 2:04:11 PM
#101:


Yeah it only really happened in the first part of the match, but I could've sworn I heard Roman say something like "I guess I hit really hard" at some point, so Cena was definitely doing something there.
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Lopen
09/25/17 2:08:38 PM
#102:


Yeah I heard it as "I hit-- hard!" like a semi-facetious gloat but he definitely said something like that. Actually had me chuckling a bit.
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PrivateBiscuit1
09/25/17 3:07:45 PM
#103:


ScareChan posted...
Also I hear paige is going to be a free agent like cena so

So what? She can be on Raw, Smackdown, or Brazzers?
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RaidenZeroX
09/25/17 3:23:33 PM
#104:


ScareChan posted...
Also I hear paige is going to be a free agent like cena so


I imagined them making a huge deal out of Paige being a free agent like they did with Cena, and that amused me greatly. If it's anything more than a "Coming soon: Paige" or her randomly walking out in the middle of someone elses promo I'll be surprised.
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JetJaguar
09/25/17 3:36:08 PM
#105:


RaidenZeroX posted...
ScareChan posted...
Also I hear paige is going to be a free agent like cena so


I imagined them making a huge deal out of Paige being a free agent like they did with Cena, and that amused me greatly. If it's anything more than a "Coming soon: Paige" or her randomly walking out in the middle of someone elses promo I'll be surprised.


More like "Cumming soon: Brad Maddox" am i rite
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FFDragon
09/25/17 3:37:16 PM
#106:


i thought maddox just hung around while woods banged her out
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Panthera
09/25/17 4:03:27 PM
#107:


Jakyl25 posted...
Didn't see the show

Am I to understand that Roman just tanked everything but death from Cena, hit one spear, pinned him, and then they had Cena endorse him like Rock and Bryan did?

ROFL

LOVE ROMAN YOU GOD DAMN FANS


WWE main event finishers already weren't the most credible things but man they just do jack shit now
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Jakyl25
09/25/17 4:12:37 PM
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voltch
09/25/17 4:17:43 PM
#109:


Beat Triple H, Cena, Bryan, Taker, will likely beat Brock.

So who else can they come up with as a new big match opponent?

Bring back The Rock for mania? There's only really Rock, Hogan and Goldberg left.
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Tom Bombadil
09/25/17 4:20:04 PM
#110:


one more Austin match!!!

or the entire TNA roster at once
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Panthera
09/25/17 4:32:38 PM
#111:


I mean obviously the next step for Roman is to destroy some random midcarder for a while, then have a feud built up with Strowman that leads to Reigns eliminating him at the Rumble to win, then defending his WM title shot by beating Strowman. Oh and if Joe comes back, have him put Reigns over too. Strowman and Joe haven't conclusively lost to him yet, that's probably why the fans aren't sold on Top Face Roman Reigns. Just have a few more guys job and everyone will come around.
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Jakyl25
09/25/17 4:40:11 PM
#112:


He should fight people who want to hurt puppies

"They wanna mess with these little pups? They're gonna have to mess with the Big Dog."
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scarletspeed7
09/25/17 4:40:58 PM
#113:


Some day we'll have a Rumble winner that surprises us again.
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voltch
09/25/17 4:41:44 PM
#114:


http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2017/09/25/email-leaks-lawsuits-evolve-uncertain-future/

Guess jakyl will find some value in this.

Gabe is a goddamn bum
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Jakyl25
09/25/17 4:41:53 PM
#115:


scarletspeed7 posted...
Some day we'll have a Rumble winner that surprises us again.


Orton was pretty surprising if you stayed away from spoilers.


If you look at spoilers you'll never be shocked
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Tom Bombadil
09/25/17 4:42:43 PM
#116:


some day we'll have a rumble winner that isn't terrible again
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Lopen
09/25/17 4:44:10 PM
#117:


Orton was surprising to me yeah

Not in a good way that made any sense though
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Jakyl25
09/25/17 4:46:15 PM
#118:


Seriously though, what if Roman started coming out with a herd of puppies and gave the puppies to kids at ringside
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Eddv
09/25/17 4:47:20 PM
#119:


The BIG DOG indeed
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scarletspeed7
09/25/17 4:47:47 PM
#120:


I wasn't that surprised honestly. But I think what I need is a fun surprise. It's really all in the booking of the match itself. Just once, the guy who is hiding and lurking the whole time (Jericho last year was a great example) should win.
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Panthera
09/25/17 4:49:29 PM
#121:


What if every week a heel came out to the ring with a puppy and threatened to hurt it, only for Reigns to come out and save it?

And they never mention that this was a recurring thing or part of his character. Just by complete coincidence every week some heel or another decides to hurt a puppy and Reigns happens to get out there to help first

And then he can take the puppy with him to his next make-a-wish visit (how long until they start pushing that angle to get people to like him?)
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Jakyl25
09/25/17 4:54:22 PM
#122:


Panthera posted...
And then he can take the puppy with him to his next make-a-wish visit (how long until they start pushing that angle to get people to like him?)


That requires some kid's dying wish being to meet him
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Panthera
09/25/17 4:58:48 PM
#123:


Jakyl25 posted...
Panthera posted...
And then he can take the puppy with him to his next make-a-wish visit (how long until they start pushing that angle to get people to like him?)


That requires some kid's dying wish being to meet him


Is the WWE above saying to someone that Cena's schedule doesn't allow him to visit but Reigns can make it? When it's not true, I mean. I feel like the answer is probably yes but I'm not 100% sure

I'm sure there are kids that want to meet him anyway though, he's still the guy that gets pushed as top face, some kids will always like that guy
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scarletspeed7
09/25/17 5:00:56 PM
#124:


Panthera posted...
Is the WWE above saying to someone that Cena's schedule doesn't allow him to visit but Reigns can make it? When it's not true, I mean. I feel like the answer is probably yes but I'm not 100% sure

I read in several places that kids used to request lesser known superstars and WWE would essentially coerce the family to get Cena instead.
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voltch
09/25/17 5:09:48 PM
#125:


Oh crud, peter kaasa's career is basically over because one promoter was too cheap to maintain a safe ring.

He was one of the highlights of Dragon gate and now its all over.

Fuck gabe
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09/25/17 5:51:35 PM
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FFDragon
09/25/17 6:18:54 PM
#127:


so what exactly was the bump that wrecked cesaro?
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StealThisSheen
09/25/17 6:23:14 PM
#128:


FFDragon posted...
so what exactly was the bump that wrecked cesaro?


Slingshot into the corner. He overshot it and nailed the post.
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CeraSeptem
09/25/17 7:16:26 PM
#129:


I know it was pages back now, but Roman has the absolute shittiest finishes.

This one with Cena and the series he had with AJ are all the same. He gets his ass kicked, then Superman Punches and Spears and it's over. It's horrible. I know it's supposed to make him seem like some sort of powerhouse but it doesn't, it just looks bad for everyone.

That is all.
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Lopen
09/25/17 7:18:46 PM
#130:


The problem is you can't look like a powerhouse if you don't look like a powerhouse.

Roman's execution of everything is just too clean. Like I've never seen a spear that looks so much like "a move" rather than just savagely tackling a dude down-- and that's including Edge's.

Dude probably would've been off if he never went to developmental
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CeraSeptem
09/25/17 7:20:03 PM
#131:


Kairi Sane has a more convincing spear. I really like it.
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StealThisSheen
09/25/17 7:23:37 PM
#132:


CeraSeptem posted...
Kairi Sane has a more convincing spear. I really like it.


I've only see her use it in the Mae Young Classic, but I think it definitely has the same problem of looking too "clean." She hits the person and then kinda bounces/spins away. That just screams "wrestling move" and not "savage" like a spear should. >_>
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PrivateBiscuit1
09/25/17 7:26:15 PM
#133:


Another issue is that before Roman Reigns, John Cena was always having the same match where he came out of nowhere with the five moves of doom (which is still more than Roman's literal two moves he uses multiple times in matches).

They don't know how to book matches for their top guys, is the main issue. It's why Cena was booed savagely before Roman, except Roman is actually so much worse than Cena ever was with his bullshit finishes. Like, how many AA's did Roman kick out of? And avalanches, double AAs? Everything? And he still just beats Cena with a punch to the head and a tackle.

It's just that Roman is so limited in the ring that you can't build a match around him and make him look great. The dude needs more than a punch and a tackle. He has a convoluted basement dropkick and I think he does the Samoan Drop, but other than that I don't think I know a single other move Roman does.
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CeraSeptem
09/25/17 7:26:29 PM
#134:


StealThisSheen posted...
CeraSeptem posted...
Kairi Sane has a more convincing spear. I really like it.


I've only see her use it in the Mae Young Classic, but I think it definitely has the same problem of looking too "clean." She hits the person and then kinda bounces/spins away. That just screams "wrestling move" and not "savage" like a spear should. >_>

It is, and she has a sort of "spotty" moveset overall (in that much of what she does is very clearly not an organic reaction), but I can at least buy hers because she's this tiny little human and can't just hit someone clean and take them to the ground. The little bounce/spin is at least some effort put into making it seem like something that could be done.

Roman's is completely antiseptic. But hey YMMV.
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StealThisSheen
09/25/17 7:29:55 PM
#135:


Oh, right. I'm not saying Roman's is better or anything. Just that they have roughly the same issue.
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Lopen
09/25/17 7:36:00 PM
#136:


Honestly I feel like all 3 of the shield guys have this problem to some extent.

Ambrose is chock full of overly contrived manufactured spots. That stupid lunatic lariat, and dirty deeds never looks naturally executed.
Rollins has a buncha stupid stuff where it looks like he's dancing around the enemy and they're falling down with him-- he's just a bit too light on his feet with this stuff. Blockbuster he's too far over their head.
Slingblade has gotta be the worst move on the roster too-- though maybe I just hate it so much because Finn Balor is also using it.

I miss the damn curb stomp. Not sure I've really liked any Rollins matches since he ditched that.
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CeraSeptem
09/25/17 7:39:32 PM
#137:


Lopen posted...
Ambrose is chock full of overly contrived manufactured spots. That stupid lunatic lariat, and dirty deeds never looks naturally executed.

That rope bounce kills me every time now.

StealThisSheen posted...
Oh, right. I'm not saying Roman's is better or anything. Just that they have roughly the same issue.

Not unfair. I just buy hers a helluva lot more.
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PrivateBiscuit1
09/25/17 7:42:50 PM
#138:


I think Ambrose would benefit a ton from a heel turn. He's been the same goofy crazy guy for so long and it's just made him feel like such a guy instead of a former World Champ.
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Lopen
09/25/17 7:44:39 PM
#139:


I was hoping the endgame of the shield reunion tease would be Ambrose beating the shit out of Rollins

Granted I guess if he's going to be "just a guy" like he is, doing it while helping to fill out the tag division is better than endlessly feuding with Miz at least
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Maniac64
09/25/17 7:44:59 PM
#140:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
He has a convoluted basement dropkick and I think he does the Samoan Drop, but other than that I don't think I know a single other move Roman does.


He did a running boot a couple times...
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Lopen
09/25/17 7:48:07 PM
#141:


He also has that thing where he does like 12 clotheslines in the corner.
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PrivateBiscuit1
09/25/17 7:52:14 PM
#142:


I actually can't recall Roman doing a running boot. I do remember those ugly corner clotheslines that don't look like they'd actually really hurt after the first one.
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Jakyl25
09/25/17 7:57:45 PM
#143:


He also has the howl
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Jakyl25
09/25/17 8:00:52 PM
#144:


Brock beat Braun after 1 F5 too? Jeez
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PrivateBiscuit1
09/25/17 8:02:16 PM
#145:


See, Brock keeps beating people with one F5 so that when Roman kicks out of it, WE'RE GOING TO POP SO HUGE LIKE YAAAAAAAAAY!
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Lopen
09/25/17 8:04:14 PM
#146:


Try to name Dean Ambrose's moves though

Normal Clothesline
Lunatic Clothesline
Suicide Dive
Dirty Deeds

Pretty sure the rest is selling
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FFDragon
09/25/17 8:04:23 PM
#147:


I hope when he beat Brock that no amount of crowd muting silences the boos.
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PrivateBiscuit1
09/25/17 8:05:31 PM
#148:


...I feel like Dean might have a neckbreaker. But I don't say that with any confidence at all. He has a jawbreaker though.

That said, I'm never interested in Dean Ambrose matches either.
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Maniac64
09/25/17 8:05:49 PM
#149:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I actually can't recall Roman doing a running boot. I do remember those ugly corner clotheslines that don't look like they'd actually really hurt after the first one.


I remember him doing it in the Cena match because when he started running I assumed he was going to superman punch and was glad he didn't.
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Strife2
09/25/17 8:16:49 PM
#150:


Dean has that leaping elbow drop to a standing opponent that JBL always mentioned.
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