Poll of the Day > Trump rolled back Obama's flood protections days before Harvey hit

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-flood-protections-flooding-hurricane-harvey-houston-texas-a7916476.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-reversed-obama-flooding-regulations-before-hurricane-harvey-2017-8

lol you can't make this shit up

Trump will definitely go down as one of the worst presidents this country has ever seen.

Looking forward to Zeus try to give this a positive spin.
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Fake news...

The regulations were only there for NEW structures. It did not affect the Harvey victims one way or another, this is just political posturing in order to attack Trump on the backs of the victims.

Anyways, those regulation are dumb because they had to do with climate change, meaning, because of climate change fiction, new infrastructure is harder to be built. In order to build it, the regulations were removed. But Trump said the infrastructure would be built to the highest standards.

GreenTreeClub posted...

But Trump said the infrastructure would be built to the highest standards.

How much brain damage do you need to believe a documented liar?
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GreenTreeClub posted...

because of climate change fiction

GanonsSpirit posted...

Looking forward to Zeus try to give this a positive spin.

It's depressing when he tries that avenue.. :/
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PyroBlade1985 posted...

The Independent is liberal leaning and B.I. uses clickbaity headlines. I'm not defending Trump if it's true, I'm just saying.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/348547-before-hurricane-harvey-trump-canceled-coastal-flood
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/aug/29/trump-infrastructure-floods-houston-harvey
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/16/543712263/trump-rolls-back-obama-era-flood-standards-for-infrastructure-projects
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-23/trump-fema-chief-supports-cutting-coverage-for-flood-prone-homes

hurray, pick your favorite
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Literally any negative event that takes place will have flocks of haters looking for a way to tie it to Trump.
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Peterass posted...

Literally any negative event that takes place will have flocks of haters looking for a way to tie it to Trump.

I mean, it's something he literally did himself, so...

I don't see people blaming him for Hurricane Harvey in here >_>
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GreenTreeClub posted...

Fake news...

To be fair, the headlines of the actual articles are much clearer. They say "regulations" and "standards for infrastructure" removed, which is exactly the case. Nobody thinks that playing with infrastructure laws will affect the damage of a hurricane later that week (and if they're curious, the actual text of the article makes it even clearer).

It's just this topic title that makes it sound like Trump took a hammer to a floodwall.
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"Manage our tax money better"
"No!!! Don't cut that!!"

Fuck you want
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RCtheWSBC posted...

I don't see people blaming him for Hurricane Harvey in here >_>

They have tied it to climate change and trump
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Lightning Bolt posted...

It's just this topic title that makes it sound like Trump took a hammer to a floodwall.

I dunno, I don't think it's hyperbolic. He signed an executive order that literally rolled back regulations Obama had put in place. He signed it on August 15: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/08/15/presidential-executive-order-establishing-discipline-and-accountability

Peterass posted...

RCtheWSBC posted...

I don't see people blaming him for Hurricane Harvey in here >_>

They have tied it to climate change and trump

Who is "they"? No one in this topic has done that.
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SmokeMassTree posted...

"Manage our tax money better"
"No!!! Don't cut that!!"

Fuck you want

Just spit balling.. but perhaps he could not increase an already bloated military budget and instead use the funds to take better care of city infrastructure.
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lol okay

"Hey you guys that risk your lives, you're gonna need to take a pay cut and have less than ideal equipment while we hand out money to lazy fucks that refuse to work"

The military budget isn't high enough until each and every soldier on the ground is in a full suit of batman armor.
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SmokeMassTree posted...

The military budget isn't high enough until each and every soldier on the ground is in a full suit of batman armor.

Hold up, if that's on the table then all civilians should get one, too

Military can have Iron Man suits instead
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SmokeMassTree posted...

lol okay

"Hey you guys that risk your lives, you're gonna need to take a pay cut and have less than ideal equipment while we hand out money to lazy fucks that refuse to work"

The military budget isn't high enough until each and every soldier on the ground is in a full suit of batman armor.

Have we as a society learned nothing from the battle of Endor?

Melon_Master posted...

SmokeMassTree posted...

"Manage our tax money better"
"No!!! Don't cut that!!"

Fuck you want

Just spit balling.. but perhaps he could not increase an already bloated military budget and instead use the funds to take better care of city infrastructure.

SMT is an admitted glutton, comprehending waste and heathy limitations is beyond him, ok?
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Y'all know I'm right
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RCtheWSBC posted...

Who is "they"? No one in this topic has done that.

"They" as in Trump haters obviously..It's in another thread here but I wasn't referring to gamefaqs only... Just google it.. You'll find plenty of examples
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Peterass posted...

RCtheWSBC posted...

Who is "they"? No one in this topic has done that.

"They" as in Trump haters obviously..It's in another thread here but I wasn't referring to gamefaqs only... Just google it.. You'll find plenty of examples

It's like 57.3% of the country at this point I think.

SmokeMassTree posted...

Y'all know I'm right

I think you're smoking more than trees, ok?
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Peterass posted...

RCtheWSBC posted...

Who is "they"? No one in this topic has done that.

"They" as in Trump haters obviously..It's in another thread here but I wasn't referring to gamefaqs only... Just google it.. You'll find plenty of examples

Dont be a putz, do your own investigative work, ok?
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Rooster_Sucker posted...

lol you can't make this shit up

Yet apparently you did, given what you've chosen to misconstrue.

PyroBlade1985 posted...

The Independent is liberal leaning and B.I. uses clickbaity headlines. I'm not defending Trump if it's true, I'm just saying.

The contents of the article completely undermine the claim being made in the title.

Lightning Bolt posted...

GreenTreeClub posted...

Fake news...

To be fair, the headlines of the actual articles are much clearer. They say "regulations" and "standards for infrastructure" removed, which is exactly the case. Nobody thinks that playing with infrastructure laws will affect the damage of a hurricane later that week (and if they're curious, the actual text of the article makes it even clearer).

It's just this topic title that makes it sound like Trump took a hammer to a floodwall.

And even when you go into the article itself, it further undercuts the article's headline which is still far less deceptive than the troll topic's title.

RCtheWSBC posted...

I dunno, I don't think it's hyperbolic. He signed an executive order that literally rolled back regulations Obama had put in place. He signed it on August 15:

The implication is hyperbolic, considering that it had no impact and the I'm not entirely sure that the new guidelines would make much difference in these conditions. More importantly, the issue with all of these grand edicts and mandates is that they often prevent *anything* from getting built, which means you're relying on the old, even worse infrastructure. Honestly, if it comes down to a new construction that might not meet some arbitrary standard vs crumbling infrastructure that doesn't need a hurricane for a disaster, I'd take the new stuff.
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didn't take him long tbh
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SmokeMassTree posted...

"Manage our tax money better"
"No!!! Don't cut that!!"

Fuck you want

It's simple - the same as they want from every other politician. Conservatives want him to cut taxes and spending while still maintaining the exact same services and improving their quality, while liberals want him to maintain or expand social programs and protections while not raising taxes in a way that would actually bring in some additional income to pay for it.

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

SmokeMassTree posted...

lol okay

"Hey you guys that risk your lives, you're gonna need to take a pay cut and have less than ideal equipment while we hand out money to lazy fucks that refuse to work"

The military budget isn't high enough until each and every soldier on the ground is in a full suit of batman armor.

A lot more people die in workplace accidents daily than do in the military in a year. Maybe we should be spending our money on where the deaths are actually occurring? Just a thought.
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Unsurprising the foundations of Zeus' defense are stupider than Houston's city planning, ok?
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Zeus posted...

The implication is hyperbolic, considering that it had no impact and the I'm not entirely sure that the new guidelines would make much difference in these conditions. More importantly, the issue with all of these grand edicts and mandates is that they often prevent *anything* from getting built, which means you're relying on the old, even worse infrastructure. Honestly, if it comes down to a new construction that might not meet some arbitrary standard vs crumbling infrastructure that doesn't need a hurricane for a disaster, I'd take the new stuff.

If the government is spending my tax dollars to build something to protect the populace from disaster, I'd rather they not waste it on something that doesn't even work. If they're not going to build it to a half-decent standard, I'd just as soon they not bother and put the money towards something more productive.

That's the entire reason why we have standards in the first place.
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Did you just compare the number of work place deaths to the number of military deaths?

You do realize there are many more people in the workforce than in the military, right?
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SmokeMassTree posted...

Did you just compare the number of work place deaths to the number of military deaths?

You do realize there are many more people in the workforce than in the military, right?

Yeah, good point, that's another reason why workers should receive way more money.
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Texas voted for Trump lol

ClarkDuke posted...

Unsurprising the foundations of Zeus' defense are stupider than Houston's city planning, ok?

lol shit, ruthless
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darkknight109 posted...

SmokeMassTree posted...

Did you just compare the number of work place deaths to the number of military deaths?

You do realize there are many more people in the workforce than in the military, right?

Yeah, good point, that's another reason why workers should receive way more money.

Get a real job and you will, kiddo
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FrozenBananas posted...

Texas voted for Trump lol

Good thing sodomy became legal in Texas in 2003, ok?
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SmokeMassTree posted...

darkknight109 posted...

SmokeMassTree posted...

Did you just compare the number of work place deaths to the number of military deaths?

You do realize there are many more people in the workforce than in the military, right?

Yeah, good point, that's another reason why workers should receive way more money.

Get a real job and you will, kiddo

a) I've held my current job for nearly a decade and statistically speaking I probably make more than you do.
b) Even were that not the case, I'm not American so I wouldn't be getting any money from your government anyways.
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GreenTreeClub posted...

Fake news...

The regulations were only there for NEW structures. It did not affect the Harvey victims one way or another, this is just political posturing in order to attack Trump on the backs of the victims.

Anyways, those regulation are dumb because they had to do with climate change, meaning, because of climate change fiction, new infrastructure is harder to be built. In order to build it, the regulations were removed. But Trump said the infrastructure would be built to the highest standards.

Obviously Trump's order didn't have any actual effect on Harvey's impact, given that that would be impossible, but the timing is rather fitting for demonstrating why it's a bad idea. The regulations he's repealed forced developers to consider how conditions would change in designing new infrastructure moving forward. If developers had better considered how conditions would change in designing Houston's infrastructure, there's a good chance a lot less of it would be underwater right now. There's a lesson to be learned from Houston, and Trump's order ignores that lesson entirely.

Quite simply, ignoring climate change in designing new infrastructure will only create more Houstons. Repealing regulations that demand that climate change be taken into account is an awful idea, as Harvey was kind enough to demonstrate mere days after Trump did so.
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darkknight109 posted...

a) I've held my current job for nearly a decade and statistically speaking I probably make more than you do.

Yeah but SMT has two real jobs, so what now
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RCtheWSBC posted...

darkknight109 posted...

a) I've held my current job for nearly a decade and statistically speaking I probably make more than you do.

Yeah but SMT has two real jobs, so what now

Technically so do I, so I'm afraid my e-peen is still bigger than his.

Admittedly the second one (I run a martial arts dojo in my spare time) is more of a hobby, but does give me a bit of extra spending cash each year.
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SmokeMassTree posted...

Did you just compare the number of work place deaths to the number of military deaths?

SmokeMassTree posted...

Hey you guys that risk your lives, you're gonna need to take a pay cut and have less than ideal equipment

SmokeMassTree posted...

The military budget isn't high enough until each and every soldier on the ground is in a full suit of batman armor.

I mean, you yourself said the government should be allocating more money to ensure that people whose jobs threaten their lives don't end up dying. Unless, of course, that was just hollow, overly-emotional rhetoric, and you weren't actually interested in following your point to its logical conclusion.
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But we need to respect the office

RCtheWSBC posted...

darkknight109 posted...

a) I've held my current job for nearly a decade and statistically speaking I probably make more than you do.

Yeah but SMT has two real jobs, so what now

And I'm going to retire comfortably when I'm 40 so 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Well random characters back atcha, buddy
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🤦🏻‍♂️

Stupid gamefaqs
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You kiss your mother with that ampersand?
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SmokeMassTree posted...

And I'm going to retire comfortably when I'm 40 so

not with that food budget you have you aren't
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Right $125 a week to feed two people is really killing my bank account

🤣
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i need the receipts because no one believes you

does that include fast food and eating out

you don't maintain 400lb on $125 a week
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Wait he's seriously 400lbs?
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