Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 127: Jay Cullen and Berke Bates

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Jakyl25 posted...

Are there statues to Rommell in Germany?

No. There's a monument, though. Not in Germany, mind, I don't think.
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I just don't understand how some people are looking at all of this and going "yep, Trump is doing a good job as President".
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Because they're not looking at all of this.
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Shaduln posted...

I just don't understand how some people are looking at all of this and going "yep, Trump is doing a good job as President".

But her emails

They're THIS CLOSE to impeaching Hillary! Finally!
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/17/politics/trump-approvers-never-stop-approving-poll/index.html

Six in 10 people who approve of President Donald Trump (61%) say they can't think of anything Trump could do that would make them disapprove of his job as President, according to aMonmouth University pollreleased this week.
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Talk about koolaid
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Shaduln posted...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/17/politics/trump-approvers-never-stop-approving-poll/index.html

Six in 10 people who approve of President Donald Trump (61%) say they can't think of anything Trump could do that would make them disapprove of his job as President, according to aMonmouth University pollreleased this week.

To be completely fair, most people don't really spend time thinking about what someone they like could do that's bad. Like, I doubt any of the people now exploding in his face stopped and thought "Hmm, would he approve of Nazis?"
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you could ask me that question with Obama and I'd probably answer the same just because it's a stupid question.
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Shaduln posted...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/17/politics/trump-approvers-never-stop-approving-poll/index.html

Six in 10 people who approve of President Donald Trump (61%) say they can't think of anything Trump could do that would make them disapprove of his job as President, according to aMonmouth University pollreleased this week.

we are rapidly approaching a singularity of real headlines/Onion headlines
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We should be entirely transparent here

The numbers were similar for those who disapprove

You can't tell me there is LITERALLY NOTHING Trump could do that would make you approve of him
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Jakyl25 posted...

We should be entirely transparent here

The numbers were similar for those who disapprove

You can't tell me there is LITERALLY NOTHING Trump could do that would make you approve of him

Oh sure, it's an important fact to know.

But honestly, I feel like saying "no hes done too much stuff I don't agree with to turn around" is more reasonable than "he can do no wrong". No matter who is in charge.
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Given how the past seven months have gone I am fairly confident that there is literally nothing that Donald Trump realistically would do that would make me approve of him, especially in the context of it being one thing amidst all the awful things he has done/said/tried to do.

Now, if we cut realism out of the equation? Sure. Lots of things.
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Yeah after I posted that I was trying to think of the most realistic thing possible he could do

Get so chummy with Putin that they both actually get rid of all the nukes for real? Not even sure that would do it but it's a start.
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I mean, nothing can really unring the bell of, for example, him being a sexual assaulter

I don't think I could bring myself to approve of Trump given his current history regardless of any future good things he might do. I could acknowledge that the hypothetical actions were good, but some things just can't be cancelled out.
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What if it turned out that every woman he ever sexually assaulted was a Skrull and he knew that the whole time and he was scaring them away from invasion
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I don't think there's anything Trump could do that would make me approve of him as a person.

Now, approve of his job as president? It would have to be a lot (and almost all of it the exact opposite of what he campaigned on and what he's done so far), but I can't say it's completely impossible. Just realistically impossible.
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Trump's presence in the White House alone is divisive in a way that I think hurts this country - he could revert back to single-payer and I'd still think we'd be better off without him.
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"Let's come together in Congress and craft a budget that diverts 1/3 of the defense budget to combating climate change, and another 1/3 of the defense budget to providing education financial assistance to underprivileged teens"
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Jakyl25 posted...

What if it turned out that every woman he ever sexually assaulted was a Skrull and he knew that the whole time and he was scaring them away from invasion

They're Skrulls.

That'd probably provoke them.
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Someone should make a sig bet with Corrik about what charges are going to stick, see who really knows more about the law.
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Jakyl25 posted...

"Let's come together in Congress and craft a budget that diverts 1/3 of the defense budget to combating climate change, and another 1/3 of the defense budget to providing education financial assistance to underprivileged teens"

Jesus christ, if there's anything that would get congressional Republicans to support impeaching him it's that.
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transience posted...

you could ask me that question with Obama and I'd probably answer the same just because it's a stupid question.

Really?

Because my answer would instinctively be yes for everyone--including my family members.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Get so chummy with Putin that they both actually get rid of all the nukes for real? Not even sure that would do it but it's a start.

I wouldn't even want that. China's got em too. Reduction yes
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And even if you get all the countries to get rid of their nukes, Big Boss will just take them all for himself.
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Just had an argument on facebook about Antifa and BLM not being as bad as literal Nazis. Fun times, fun times.
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I feel like people who believe that have either been lied to or have only seen the worst members of those groups.

There is no such thing as a good Nazi
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I'm actually surprised at the lack of FB posts/rants regarding this whole thing on my side. Hell even my friend that live in Virginia(Thankfully not Charlotteville) is only talking about Sonic Mania right now.
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Weirdly the person I'm talking about was always a lefty but has now suddenly swung to the right, his friend however (the one who eventually blocked me after going through my wall and then calling me a lefty IDIOT and running away) looks like a typical skinhead.

Huh... maybe he thought I meant Cuck when I said he was living in cloud cuckoo land if he believed the world was siding with Trump over this.
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If all these people getting offended over a statue being taken down because "You're erasing history".....


Then it's no wonder history keeps repeating themselves, because apparently no one reads a fucking book anymore. >_>
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MenuWars posted...

Weirdly the person I'm talking about was always a lefty but has now suddenly swung to the right, his friend however (the one who eventually blocked me after going through my wall and then calling me a lefty IDIOT and running away) looks like a typical skinhead.

Huh... maybe he thought I meant Cuck when I said he was living in cloud cuckoo land if he believed the world was siding with Trump over this.

There's that horseshoe theory again. Go too far left and you end up on the right, like a Final Fantasy map
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Also the idea that "the world sides with Trump" might be the deepest anyone's head has ever been in the sand.
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Remember when Clinton said half of Trump's supporters were a basket of deplorables?

I'm feeling like she underestimated.
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https://twitter.com/samswey/status/897952072955342848

This is how the largest slave rebellion in the history of colonial America is commemorated. Here's the *real* story. (1/x) https://t.co/NIhNam4icJ


Interesting thread about how black history's already been erased. If record-sized slave rebellions can be reduced to thieves and killers without listing their names, don't feel too bad about slave-owners and traitors who lose their statues after this many decades of unnecessary honor.
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I met a traveler from an antique land...
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*Dons tinfoil hat for semi serious question*

What if all of this is to try and give valid reason to upending net neutrality?
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Oh wow, there was a second terror attack in Spain, but this time no one was killed except four attackers

Good work policía!
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Was it a second attack or a police shootout? I mean good work either way, but the latter makes more sense.
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Catalan police tweeted that four terrorists were killed early Friday in Cambrils and a fifth person is in police custody.

Authorities said there is an ongoing police operation, but the situation is under control.
Six civilians were injured, two of them seriously, Catalonia emergency officials said.

Cambrils is a coastal city about 115 kilometers southwest of Barcelona.

I suppose the original terrorists could have gotten that far
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I had read it was another, unrelated terror incident.

That was earlier today though so I don't know if things have changed since.
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Umbreon posted...

Someone should make a sig bet with Corrik about what charges are going to stick, see who really knows more about the law.

What would be the terms? If they plead not guilty they will try all charges levied. If they plea down then the felonies will be dropped for the lower charges.
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https://twitter.com/malscrung/status/897978128953421824
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From the North Carolina code quoted by Greg Doucette:

§ 14-288.2. Riot; inciting to riot; punishments.
(a) A riot is a public disturbance involving an assemblage of three or more persons which by disorderly and violent conduct, or the imminent threat of disorderly and violent conduct, results in injury or damage to persons or property or creates a clear and present danger of injury or damage to persons or property.
(b) Any person who willfully engages in a riot is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.
(c) Any person who willfully engages in a riot is guilty of a Class H felony, if:
(1) In the course and as a result of the riot there is property damage in excess of fifteen hundred dollars ($1,500) or serious bodily injury; or
(2) Such participant in the riot has in his possession any dangerous weapon or substance.
(d) Any person who willfully incites or urges another to engage in a riot, so that as a result of such inciting or urging a riot occurs or a clear and present danger of a riot is created, is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.
(e) Any person who willfully incites or urges another to engage in a riot, and such inciting or urging is a contributing cause of a riot in which there is property damage in excess of fifteen hundred dollars ($1,500) or serious bodily injury, shall be punished as a Class F felon.

I don't see "the police didn't stop it, it must not have been violent" as a very strong defense. Certainly the statute contemplates a riot (even a felonious riot) that does not result in physical injury to life. Failure of the police to do their job is not a defense, so you'd be arguing only that it must not have been violent because the police didn't think it was worthwhile to stop it. Which would ordinarily be fairly convincing, except for the direct video and the clear damage to the statue here. Unless there's some special meaning to the word "violent" in North Carolina law that I'm not aware of.

On the other hand, the fact that the DA charged it certainly doesn't mean there is strong evidence for it. if Corrik's friend actually follows that rule, I'd say that county is very very lucky to have a DA office that is doing what they are supposed to do.

As a practical matter, Durham is a pretty liberal place nowadays right? They might not be able to get a jury to convict there.

On a loosely related note, I searched for the North Carolina riot law in Google and the first thing that came up was a statute from 1771, under the British.....which prescribes a MANDATORY DEATH PENALTY for failing to disperse a protest after being ordered to by police, for one hour. I hadn't known the law was so harsh just for a protest in those times. The founders really did risk a lot.
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Oh wow, that 1771 act was made retroactive to 1770 too, so that the protesters in the previous year could be charged under it. Refusing to surrender within 60 days was grounds for being deemed guilty without trial and being made an outlaw, so that anyone could kill the person without legal consequence.
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My Immortal posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

99/1

That female number seems high.

I burst out loud with laughter for some reason. Good one MI.
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So I have just learned that my girlfriend's high school mascot has been forced to be changed in light of recent events. Their mascot was a Confederate named the "Rebel".

I asked her why her mascot was a Confederate when she lived in the most northern point of Ohio. Her reply was that their rival school was Eastlake North.

Politics aside, it's still a horrible mascot.
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https://twitter.com/AndrayDomise/status/898403926415769601

An argument against "sheet-caking" and the action of inaction.
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Nothing like starting the day with some good old fear mongering.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/898522732672933890

Homeland Security and law enforcement are on alert & closely watching for any sign of trouble. Our borders are far tougher than ever before!

I see the humor in the sheetcaking, but it's slacktivism at best and standing aside and letting the oppressors win at worst.
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No, staying at home is a good thing (eating cake is a bonus) Who the hell even wants to go near these nazis? What does that accomplish except more violence?
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More violence is largely preferable to letting them go unopposed.
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/898531481185689600

Radical Islamic Terrorism must be stopped by whatever means necessary! The courts must give us back our protective rights. Have to be tough!

Can anyone translate what he's blathering about now?

Is he mad he can't shoot Muslims with pig blood bullets?
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