Poll of the Day > Of these 4 things, which is mans worst invention?

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I'm not sure what to pick honestly. I would choose I guess Nuclear Weapons or Borders.
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Sex bots. They'll bite your dick off just watch.

And can you imagine cleanup?
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I voted borders, mainly because i believe that nationalism is an unnecessary evil in this world.
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There are some interesting arguments for Agriculture (none of the above). I'm not sure to what extent I believe them, but they are interesting.

Also,

>implying man invented borders.

If I had to make an informed guess, I'd say animals defining and defending territory has existed since before apes were walking upright.
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Money
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Leaded gasoline?

Money actually serves an important purpose and without it in some form, society would have never developed very far. Doesn't even belong in this grouping.

Borders, while the cause of lots of conflict and I can see why it's on here, also serve useful purposes. Namely, reigning in how much of the world's population evil, despotic, or otherwise terrible rulers/governments can terrorize. Yeah, they can try to ignore those borders and conquer more area, but having clear delineations of where a country's supposed to end is what defines invasion in the first place and not honoring those borders can draw other nations into the conflict to stop the conqueror (lest he later choose to ignore their own borders).

Religion and nuclear weapons are the clear choices here. At least nuclear weapons have a deterrence factor (less war, since it's so risky) and lead to the development of nuclear energy. Organized religion has no positives at all going for it, so I chose it. But both are very bad inventions.

Atheist topic
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religion isn't inherently evil, it needs to be paired with something or someone that actually is evil for it to be so. it was not initially created as a thing to hurt others but to provide answers. borders are selfish but serve a purpose, same with money.

nuclear weapons were created for a singular purpose and that is to wipe out a shitton of human lives and leave survivors suffering for years and years afterwards. anyone who picks anything other than that is either a fucking idiot or an edgelord still trying to get back at his poor parents for asking him to go to church one time around christmas when he was a kid.
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Ummm, man didn't invent religion, god did DUHGHHHHHH
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Nade Duck posted...

nuclear weapons were created for a singular purpose and that is to wipe out a shitton of human lives and leave survivors suffering for years and years afterwards. anyone who picks anything other than that is either a fucking idiot or an edgelord still trying to get back at his poor parents for asking him to go to church one time around christmas when he was a kid

Damn....

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Money is bad, but nukes are the worst invention of all time. I'm not fond of nuclear power plants either, for reasons of radiation and meltdowns.

Nade Duck posted...

religion isn't inherently evil, it needs to be paired with something or someone that actually is evil for it to be so. it was not initially created as a thing to hurt others but to provide answers. borders are selfish but serve a purpose, same with money.

nuclear weapons were created for a singular purpose and that is to wipe out a shitton of human lives and leave survivors suffering for years and years afterwards. anyone who picks anything other than that is either a fucking idiot or an edgelord still trying to get back at his poor parents for asking him to go to church one time around christmas when he was a kid.

Intentions matter infinitely less than actions. Religion is responsible for far more deaths and human suffering than nuclear weapons, so until an all out nuclear annihilation occurs that's not going to change.

All of those things were useful at one point or another. Nukes too, now world leaders have something to be afraid of before sending poor people to war.

I'll skip the atheist rant for now.
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Still though... are Isis bombers evil? Are they? Or are they just living by their own standards? Pretty sure they blow stuff up out of ignorance.
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Lokarin posted...

Ummm, man didn't invent religion, god did DUHGHHHHHH

Which god? One of the childish ones that claims they are the only one, but is still jealous of the other gods? Or one of the omniscient gods who doesn't know any more than one of his primitive priests could imagine? Or one of the omnipotent ones that commits genocide like a three-year-old breaking their toys in a tantrum?

Pretty impressive.
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Nuclear weapons and borders
when man can't travel freely (with identification) then he isn't even man anymore
we should basically call ourselves something else
like prisoner sapian
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Nuclear weapons of those 4, but this poll reeks of being made by some 17 year old edgelord.

Money, Religion and Borders are literal backbones of society.
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modern medicine
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Money
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z86V_ICUCD4
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Terrible list. Money has helped societies expand and grow in complexity, taking us away from simple barter systems which are wholly inadequate for most trades. Religion was largely responsible for "cilivizing" mankind and Christianity in particular preserved ancient cultures through the worst of the dark ages so we have much of it today. Borders are an absolute necessity to run a country or have any semblance of order in society.

Finally, you have nuclear weapons which might be a boon in future warfare but, for the most part, have acted as a deterrent against open warfare between nuclear nations. Not to mention that the research done to build said weapons allowed us to have nuclear energy.

darkknight109 posted...

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Kek. This one might be the worst.
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nuclear arms are terrible
one mega bomb could explode into other bombs and wipe out an area the size of texas
a fringe group with maybe 30 people can go to a sattellite state of russia buy radioactive isotopes and blow up a dirty bomb contaminating the area and giving lots of people really bad after effects

seriously being melted into the side walk or being blown into dust and casting a shadow on the wall isn't my idea of safe
the u.s. has hundreds of nukes, russia has thousands, can you imagine what would happen if just one person got their hands on one? hacked the code?
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Man's worst invention was "Introspection".

Because we only ever use it to think about douchey things like this topic.


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Bump
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Religion. It's so corrupt at its core and affects so many.

Nuclear missiles have only been used twice in history. Everyone is so scared of them that no one really wants World War 3.

Money and borders are necessary.

Delicinq4 posted...

Western Morals are based on JudeoChristian values. You believe what is good and what is bad because Western Society was built around these morals. Many aspects of Religion are vestigal and detrimental in the information era, but without those base morals we would be like a Mad Max movie.


And no, dont feed me some bullshit about 'I would be a good person even if therr was no Religion, Im Athiest and I follow those morals'. No, you would not have the same morals you do now if you werent born and raised in a JudeoChristian society. Even if you and your entire family was Athiest, you were still molded by society and your peers. Western Justice Systems were based off of these values. Without them we would 100% be killing eachother for resources as part of our daily life (and stealing, lying, cheating, etc etc). We are animals.

Man's worst invention is none of the above. It's most likely some sort of gas chamber, torture device or other inhumane thing that was around in the 1500s. Nuke's at least serve as a war deterrence. The world is the most at-peace that it has ever been in human history in 2017. It only seems so terrible now because with the internet (another invention that has some major downsides), we get to instantly know about every bad thing happening around the globe.

Still, out of those 4 i would say the nukes are the worse because they were created simply t destroy, money and religion weren't
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Bombs since they were made for completely harmful reasons. It's a shame people cant look past extremists to see religion has served lots of purpose throughout history. If we're going to say it's worse than nuclear bombs because of a lower kill count then we start getting into ridiculous claims like sugar is worse than nuclear bombs, which is just plain stupid.
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I just want to say to anyone who voted boarders I hope you don't lock your house or car doors.
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Delicinq4 posted...

Western Morals are based on JudeoChristian values. You believe what is good and what is bad because Western Society was built around these morals. Many aspects of Religion are vestigal and detrimental in the information era, but without those base morals we would be like a Mad Max movie.


And no, dont feed me some bullshit about 'I would be a good person even if therr was no Religion, Im Athiest and I follow those morals'. No, you would not have the same morals you do now if you werent born and raised in a JudeoChristian society. Even if you and your entire family was Athiest, you were still molded by society and your peers. Western Justice Systems were based off of these values. Without them we would 100% be killing eachother for resources as part of our daily life (and stealing, lying, cheating, etc etc). We are animals.

Man's worst invention is none of the above. It's most likely some sort of gas chamber, torture device or other inhumane thing that was around in the 1500s. Nuke's at least serve as a war deterrence. The world is the most at-peace that it has ever been in human history in 2017. It only seems so terrible now because with the internet (another invention that has some major downsides), we get to instantly know about every bad thing happening around the globe.

this is incorrect. christian values would have us stoning adulterers and killing gay people. we've progressed morally because we REJECTED most literal christian teachings. only 3 of the 10 commandments have any relevance nowadays and the constitution of america was written with secularism in mind.

the last bit i agree with tho. torture devices are the worst thing man has ever made.
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The Old testament though

Besides the Bible isn't suposed to be taken literally, most of the morals still stand
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Nuclear weapons are the worst, but religion is a close second.

Money, for sure, greed for money has led to so many terrible things and caused people to do fucked up shit to get more

Also, you know, money is the root of all evil
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Duck-I-Says posted...

Religion is responsible for far more deaths and human suffering than nuclear weapons,

that isn't religions fault though.

that's terrible, terrible people using religion as a means to further their hatred.
J_Dawg983 posted...

Bombs since they were made for completely harmful reasons.

mining.
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Muscles posted...

Money, for sure, greed for money has led to so many terrible things and caused people to do fucked up shit to get more

Also, you know, money is the root of all evil

This. Before money there was no greed and no evil.
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Tropic_Sunset posted...

Muscles posted...

Money, for sure, greed for money has led to so many terrible things and caused people to do fucked up shit to get more

Also, you know, money is the root of all evil

This. Before money there was no greed and no evil.

I ain't ever heard of no dinosaur robbing a quickie mart. Or murdering their wife because she fooled around with the brontasaurus down the street.
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Tropic_Sunset posted...

Muscles posted...

Money, for sure, greed for money has led to so many terrible things and caused people to do fucked up shit to get more

Also, you know, money is the root of all evil

This. Before money there was no greed and no evil.

you don't think any of our ancestors killed or even hit a fellow human because he hunted a better animal or had a better pre historic vest?

Greed is the root of ll evil not money
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Judgmenl posted...

I voted borders, mainly because i believe that nationalism is an unnecessary evil in this world.

We need aliens to attack us so we have an excuse to unite the planet.
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Delicinq4 posted...

Western Morals are based on JudeoChristian values. You believe what is good and what is bad because Western Society was built around these morals. Many aspects of Religion are vestigal and detrimental in the information era, but without those base morals we would be like a Mad Max movie.


And no, dont feed me some bullshit about 'I would be a good person even if therr was no Religion, Im Athiest and I follow those morals'. No, you would not have the same morals you do now if you werent born and raised in a JudeoChristian society. Even if you and your entire family was Athiest, you were still molded by society and your peers. Western Justice Systems were based off of these values. Without them we would 100% be killing eachother for resources as part of our daily life (and stealing, lying, cheating, etc etc). We are animals.

Man's worst invention is none of the above. It's most likely some sort of gas chamber, torture device or other inhumane thing that was around in the 1500s. Nuke's at least serve as a war deterrence. The world is the most at-peace that it has ever been in human history in 2017. It only seems so terrible now because with the internet (another invention that has some major downsides), we get to instantly know about every bad thing happening around the globe.

Right so that entire area in the Far East where a Christianity barely exist and actually has far less crime and violence than in the West just doesn't count huh....


What a stupid post lmao

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Man's worst invention was "Introspection".

Because we only ever use it to think about douchey things like this topic.

You used to type cool things sometimes

The dark triad includes psychopathy, narcissism and machiavellianism. There's also a tetrad model that uses sadism.

8 of the 10 countries with less criminal activity are European and had Christianity in most of their modern history though.

And... technicly the Vatican is the safest and less violent country ever lol
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green dragon posted...

Nade Duck posted...

nuclear weapons were created for a singular purpose and that is to wipe out a shitton of human lives and leave survivors suffering for years and years afterwards. anyone who picks anything other than that is either a fucking idiot or an edgelord still trying to get back at his poor parents for asking him to go to church one time around christmas when he was a kid

Damn....

nade damn
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OmegaTomHank posted...

Delicinq4 posted...

Western Morals are based on JudeoChristian values. You believe what is good and what is bad because Western Society was built around these morals. Many aspects of Religion are vestigal and detrimental in the information era, but without those base morals we would be like a Mad Max movie.


And no, dont feed me some bullshit about 'I would be a good person even if therr was no Religion, Im Athiest and I follow those morals'. No, you would not have the same morals you do now if you werent born and raised in a JudeoChristian society. Even if you and your entire family was Athiest, you were still molded by society and your peers. Western Justice Systems were based off of these values. Without them we would 100% be killing eachother for resources as part of our daily life (and stealing, lying, cheating, etc etc). We are animals.

Man's worst invention is none of the above. It's most likely some sort of gas chamber, torture device or other inhumane thing that was around in the 1500s. Nuke's at least serve as a war deterrence. The world is the most at-peace that it has ever been in human history in 2017. It only seems so terrible now because with the internet (another invention that has some major downsides), we get to instantly know about every bad thing happening around the globe.

Right so that entire area in the Far East where a Christianity barely exist and actually has far less crime and violence than in the West just doesn't count huh....


What a stupid post lmao

You don't even have to go to the Far East or non-Christian (in modern terms) areas of the globe. Ancient Greece did just fine w/o Judeo-Christian values, including the original shining pinnacle of democracy, Athens.
Rome not only rose to greatness w/o it...it was actually not long after Rome adopted Christianity as the primary religion of the empire that it began to go into decline.

Religion did not give people morals. It adopted morals from society. Society's morals change and religion follows. That's why normal people ignore stupid religious rules like stoning non-virgins to death and banging your sister in law if you brother died and left no children.
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Muscles posted...

Also, you know, money is the root of all evil

No, I don't know, because I know it's actually the love of money that is the root of all evil.