Poll of the Day > I hate Final Fantasy VI.

(+) Yeah! (+)

Also Dancing Mad is a garbage track.

* Recall that I've played every Final Fantasy Game [Except XV]
* Recall that my username on this site used to be 1337_FF_GoD

I do not see why people like this game so much.


was listening to this when I was playing Path of Exile on a Hardcore league and said If I died while listening to it I would play the Final Fantasy game that I died on, I died on Dancing Mad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPmrvAzl-WI
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Final Fantasy VI is over twenty years old. Get over it.
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Judgmenl posted...

I do not see why people like this game so much.

... he said to the empty stands amidst the sound of crickets.
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ff6 is one of the worst ff games though, he's completely right in his assessment
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So I decided to play some FFIII instead and opted for the NES version because I don't think the remake does the game justice



lol.

It's a marvel that this game was a NES game to begin with.
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helly posted...

ff6 is one of the worst ff games though, he's completely right in his assessment

*gulp gulp*
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Judgmenl posted...

So I decided to play some FFIII instead and opted for the NES version because I don't think the remake does the game justice

You might need to change your name to "Masochist", Judg.
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It's the best 2D FF game, by far, and the best plot of any FF game, period.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

It's the best 2D FF game, by far, and the best plot of any FF game, period.

You mean Final Fantasy V right?
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No.
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Obvious troll topic is obvious. VI is great
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I made a post about this the other day. WoB is great. WoR is absolute trash.
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Hmm... no.
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TC... this is a really controversial topic. Your free to not like FF6, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but your in the minority on this one & making a topic like this is just going to piss people off. What do you hope to achieve by making this topic?

IMO, the best final fantasy is either 4 or 6.
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Judgmenl posted...

So I decided to play some FFIII instead and opted for the NES version because I don't think the remake does the game justice



lol.

It's a marvel that this game was a NES game to begin with.

I like them
The remake on psp i mean... Gulp (please dont kill me)
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Ouch. I cut myself on all the edge itt
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Metalsonic66 posted...

It's the best 2D FF game, by far, and the best plot of any FF game, period.

so a toss up between 5 and 8?
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@ha21nagamas "I like them
The remake on psp i mean... Gulp (please dont
kill me)"

I was actually thinking of getting the PSP version of FF3. I have the DS version but never really played it. I am playing Dissidia 012 now & it made me wanna try FF3 so I thought the best version would probably be the PSP version.

Do you guys play the NES version with a fan translation or something? As far as I know it never come to western NES owners.
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Judgmenl posted...

Metalsonic66 posted...

It's the best 2D FF game, by far, and the best plot of any FF game, period.

You mean Final Fantasy V right?

Um... V's plot is trash bruh... and this is coming from someone who liked FFV.
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I was actually thinking of getting the PSP version of FF3. I have the DS version but never really played it. I am playing Dissidia 012 now & it made me wanna try FF3 so I thought the best version would probably be the PSP version.

It actually a bit more balanced than the nes one at least when i look at some gameplay video on youtube. But be prepared cause this game hurt and most likely take your time.
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Why are people lauding FFVI's story? It has characters so underdeveloped they might as well be NPCs.
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Well I liked FF6 for alot more reasons then just its story, which was still great IMO.
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I didnt dislike it but its easily near the bottom. Never got the appeal but eh more power to others.
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Judgmenl posted...

Why are people lauding FFVI's story? It has characters so underdeveloped they might as well be NPCs.

Because it hits the right balance of having enough character to be better than most of the previous games (except possibly IV), but not having the pretentiously shitty characters nearly every game afterward (except possibly IX) was dragged down by.

Most of the later games were overwritten as hell and created with Japanese narrative aesthetics in mind. The early games wind up being more generically universal simply by virtue of them not having enough cartridge memory to waste on inane bullshit backstory/plot or enough pixels to waste giving Celes an outfit made entirely out of 10,000 belts.

FFVI was right about the point where the game was JUST ENOUGH FF, but not too much.

FFVII usually gets the nod over FFVI, though, mainly because it was the first game a ton of Western gamers ever played, because the RPG market in the West really surged once the PS1 came out (in spite of their being a lot of solid RPGs on both the SNES and Genesis, and both FF and Dragon Warrior/Quest starting on the NES).





EDIT: Or, to put it another way, it's Boba Fett Syndrome in a lot of ways. Boba Fett in the original Star Wars movies barely had a character, had about three lines of dialogue, and died like a chump, yet thousands of nerdboys creamed their pants over how cool he was. Then Lucas gave him an actual backstory in the prequels and pretty much ruined the character forever.

Sometimes, less is more.


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helly posted...

so a toss up between 5 and 8?

Not sure if serious.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Then Lucas gave him an actual backstory in the prequels and pretty much ruined the character forever.

Uhh... what about his backstory ruined him forever? Prequels did a lot of dumb stuff but the Jango/Boba story was fine.
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Judgmenl posted...

Metalsonic66 posted...

It's the best 2D FF game, by far, and the best plot of any FF game, period.

You mean Final Fantasy V right?

oh, so you WERE trolling. anyone that hates 6 yet praises 5 is obviously insane or trolling or both

5 was so bad i refuse to acknowledge it as a ff game. i'd rather play 13
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@The_Beta_Male said: "5 was so bad i refuse to acknowledge it as a ff
game. i'd rather play 13"

I'll admit 5 wasn't a strong point in the series, but I actually enjoyed it. The characters were unappealing & the story was mostly forgetable, but it was still a fun game. I liked the job system.

5 can't hold a candle to 4 or 6 though.
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Damn Shenti confirms he has no taste.
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6 was a pretty good FF. My favorite is still 8, followed closely by 2, but 6 would definitely be 3rd or 4th (behind 10).

The_Beta_Male posted...

Judgmenl posted...

Metalsonic66 posted...

It's the best 2D FF game, by far, and the best plot of any FF game, period.

You mean Final Fantasy V right?

oh, so you WERE trolling. anyone that hates 6 yet praises 5 is obviously insane or trolling or both

5 was so bad i refuse to acknowledge it as a ff game. i'd rather play 13

You are just mad that you couldn't understand how jobs worked and got trounced when you had to actually use them for something.
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Dikitain posted...

6 was a pretty good FF. My favorite is still 8, followed closely by 2, but 6 would definitely be 3rd or 4th (behind 10).

The_Beta_Male posted...

Judgmenl posted...

Metalsonic66 posted...

It's the best 2D FF game, by far, and the best plot of any FF game, period.

You mean Final Fantasy V right?

oh, so you WERE trolling. anyone that hates 6 yet praises 5 is obviously insane or trolling or both

5 was so bad i refuse to acknowledge it as a ff game. i'd rather play 13

You are just mad that you couldn't understand how jobs worked and got trounced when you had to actually use them for something.

Favorite is 8? Opinion invalidated

4 and 6 were the 2 best NES FF titles.
4 had better story and characters and six had better music graphics gameplay and main antagonist.
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I say I love the FF series, but I've honestly only finished VII, X, and XV. I don't like grinding before bosses, which was a major genre "feature" prior to the last generation, where it began to shift away from it.
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I just think it's hilarious that I prefer 5 over 4 and 6 because 4 and 6 are really lacking when it comes to the combat and a lack of a job system.

The FFs with Job systems are the best ones.
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Judgmenl posted...

I just think it's hilarious that I prefer 5 over 4 and 6 because 4 and 6 are really lacking when it comes to the combat and a lack of a job system.

The FFs with Job systems are the best ones.

While that's not overly important to me, I agree that FF5 is awesome.
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Dikitain posted...

You are just mad that you couldn't understand how jobs worked and got trounced when you had to actually use them for something.

no i understood full well how the job system worked, the problem is it just didn't work at all

horrible balance issues, ridiculous and unexpected difficulty spikes Atomos can fuck off and whoever programmed its stats and AI can fuck off too and like another poster said, the characters and story are all so fucking bland and unmemorable that i literally can't remember shit that happens in the game past the first few minutes. I mean I know a few events here and there but mostly it's just garbage.

6 is a masterpiece, as is 4, 7, 8, 9 and 10. These are the only ones actually worth playing. FF Tactics is great, as well, and actually does the job system properly. 5 remains garbage
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

I say I love the FF series, but I've honestly only finished VII, X, and XV. I don't like grinding before bosses, which was a major genre "feature" prior to the last generation, where it began to shift away from it.

Anyone who had to grind before a boss in FFVI just sucks balls at video games.
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Judgmenl posted...

The FFs with Job systems are the best ones.

Jobs are nice and all but it's not as if most of the other games don't have a character defined job. 6 has exactly that, they're all pretty well defined.
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F.F.VI has arguably:

*the best visuals/graphics of a pre-3D F.F.
*the best soundtrack in the series
*the best antagonist in the series (via the W.o.B.)*A
*the best story with several memorable arcs (in the W.o.B.)*B; e.g. getting everyone back to defend Narshe, finding Terra after she goes berserk, breaking the espers out of Vector, etc.
*distinct characters, each with their own abilities and personality*C; e.g. Cyan ("Mr. Serious"); Shadow ("Mr. Mysterious"), etc.
*sufficient side quests; e.g. the Colosseum, the Veldt, finding all the espers and characters in both the W.o.B. and W.o.R.
*great level of customization; e.g. being able to switch and choose from multiple party members, developing said characters how one wishes via espers, and equipping a variety of relics.

*A: Perhaps the main thing I would have changed in the game is to include more scenes with Kefka in the W.o.R.; however, it could be said that due to his ascension into godhood, the protagonists are no longer worth his notice/time which would make including more relevant scenes with him challenging.
*B: While I would certainly agree with anyone who states that the W.o.R. is sorely lacking when compared to the W.o.B., it could also be looked at from an angle of the world is effectively broken and which means that no only are the n.p.c.s of the world having to rebuild their lives, but the protagonists (and player) have to as well which is shown by the player only starting with one character (Celes) and working their way towards building some kind of unity/norm by getting all the characters together again for one final and definitive push.
*C: With this said, some characters certainly have MORE personality/depth to them than others. On the more developed side, would be characters like Cyan, Locke, Terra, & Celes with others on the less developed side including Setzer, Strago, Mog, Umaro, and Gogo.

While someone's favorite may be one of the 3D F.F.s, I think someone would be hard-pressed to say that F.F.VI isn't the best of the 2D F.F.s.

And yes: F.F. VI is my favorite in the series, and no; it wasn't the first one I played (the first being the original F.F. on N.E.S. followed by F.F. 2/IV on the S.N.E.S). Second favorite? Tactics.

The_Beta_Male posted...

horrible balance issues, ridiculous and unexpected difficulty spikes Atomos can fuck off and whoever programmed its stats and AI can fuck off too and like another poster said, the characters and story are all so fucking bland and unmemorable that i literally can't remember shit that happens in the game past the first few minutes. I mean I know a few events here and there but mostly it's just garbage.

Dikitain posted...

You are just mad that you couldn't understand how jobs worked and got trounced when you had to actually use them for something.

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you just quoted yourself. i'm probably never going to acknowledge your existence again unless you do something drastic to prove that i mislabeled you as a nobody
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Dikitain posted...

You are just mad that you couldn't understand how jobs worked and got trounced when you had to actually use them for something.

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The_Beta_Male posted...

you just quoted yourself. i'm probably never going to acknowledge your existence again unless you do something drastic to prove that i mislabeled you as a nobody

You can't even understand how jobs work in FF5, having you ignore me is a blessing on the scale of being involved in a crack house orgy when you are the only one with a crack pipe.
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Don't you make this topic every couple months?
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It's very comforting to see others that dislike ff6. I gave it a chance at the behest of a friend and it was easily one of the least pleasant games I've played. I bailed on it when I first tried it. I'm sure there was interesting plot and fun gameplay at the beginning, but it was all suffocated by the absolute worst love story I have ever endured. An obnoxious love triangle involving bland stereotypes played out in the most trite, predictable, boring, incessant tale ever. Eventually I couldn't take anymore and just hit the power button. My friend took over and got me to a later point in the game. It wasn't any more enjoyable. Two of the characters were endearing to me, but I don't even remember their names. The gameplay still used the HSM1 rpg-style: "Stick to the Status Quo!" The boss was just overdramatic. FFVI was awful and I hate it too.

Sweet, I got post #44.
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Dreamsaber posted...

It's very comforting to see others that dislike ff6. I gave it a chance at the behest of a friend and it was easily one of the least pleasant games I've played. I bailed on it when I first tried it. I'm sure there was interesting plot and fun gameplay at the beginning, but it was all suffocated by the absolute worst love story I have ever endured. An obnoxious love triangle involving bland stereotypes played out in the most trite, predictable, boring, incessant tale ever. Eventually I couldn't take anymore and just hit the power button. My friend took over and got me to a later point in the game. It wasn't any more enjoyable. Two of the characters were endearing to me, but I don't even remember their names. The gameplay still used the HSM1 rpg-style: "Stick to the Status Quo!" The boss was just overdramatic. FFVI was awful and I hate it too.

Sweet, I got post #44.

...love story? love triangle? are you really talking about ff6
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ForteGX posted...

Obvious troll topic is obvious. VI is great

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Dreamsaber posted...

I bailed on it when I first tried it. I'm sure there was interesting plot and fun gameplay at the beginning, but it was all suffocated by the absolute worst love story I have ever endured. An obnoxious love triangle involving bland stereotypes played out in the most trite, predictable, boring, incessant tale ever.

...wut?

The "love story" was a VERY small part of the story in FFVI. Are you sure you're not talking about VII or VIII?
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Judgmenl posted...

I just think it's hilarious that I prefer 5 over 4 and 6 because 4 and 6 are really lacking when it comes to the combat and a lack of a job system.

The FFs with Job systems are the best ones.

I agree. III, V, and Tactics are the ones I always go back to. I didn't enjoy VI as much because I was too focused on having to switch my espers before I leveled up to gain stats. That pretty much took the fun out of it for me, I just couldn't play the damn game.

To everyone who complains about the stories in video games, go read a book then. I couldn't give any less of a fuck about any plotline in Final Fantasy games. FFIII barely had any dialogue at all and it's great because it's fun to play.

@silvermaiden said: "To everyone who complains about the stories in
video games, go read a book then. I couldn't give
any less of a fuck about any plotline in Final
Fantasy games."

I love reading books & playing games, a game with a good story like final fantasy 4 or 6 (Or pretty much any FF really) combines those 2 things into 1 great experience. I feel that the story is 1 of the main & most important factors of a FF game, or any RPG in general.
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You want a good story, go play something like Trails. Final Fantasy's stories have been hit or miss for a long time now.
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