Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 110: Cleveland Steamer

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iiaattgg 07/09/17 4:21:46 PM #202:	@TheRock1525 i guess where i get confused at as a fellow fan of a doomed franchise is how you still have any optimism --- Sess Of the superuser "merSHINEsess" <cite>iiaattgg posted [p:882609506] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>@TheRock1525 i guess where i get confused at as a fellow fan of a doomed franchise is how you still have any optimism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iiaattgg 07/09/17 4:22:08 PM #203:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... iiaattgg posted... i think to the trained eye president trump did quite well! What training is that? geopolitical strategy --- Sess Of the superuser "merSHINEsess" <cite>iiaattgg posted [p:882609533] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iiaattgg posted...</cite> <quote>i think to the trained eye president trump did quite well!</quote> What training is that?</quote> geopolitical strategy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BowserCuffs 07/09/17 4:24:54 PM #204:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... iiaattgg posted... i think to the trained eye president trump did quite well! What training is that? Fox News brainwa-- training, I guess. --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. <cite>BowserCuffs posted [p:882609672] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iiaattgg posted...</cite> <quote>i think to the trained eye president trump did quite well!</quote> What training is that?</quote> Fox News brainwa-- training, I guess.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 07/09/17 4:35:25 PM #205:	iiaattgg posted... ChaosTonyV4 posted... iiaattgg posted... i think to the trained eye president trump did quite well! What training is that? geopolitical strategy lol classic Sess trollin --- Phantom Dust. <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:882610212] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>iiaattgg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iiaattgg posted...</cite> <quote>i think to the trained eye president trump did quite well!</quote> What training is that?</quote> geopolitical strategy</quote> lol classic Sess trollin</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 07/09/17 4:39:08 PM #206:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNMAp8kXWrc Trump protesters applauding verbatim Hitler speeches. Not to return to an argument from last topic, but Nazism absolutely is a form of Leftism, as clearly evidenced by the quotes. --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:882610395] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNMAp8kXWrc Trump protesters applauding verbatim Hitler speeches. Not to return to an argument from last topic, but Nazism absolutely is a form of Leftism, as clearly evidenced by the quotes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iiaattgg 07/09/17 4:44:43 PM #207:	@TheRock1525 i mean the knicks had hope 4 or so years ago. thats how quickly you can doom yourself for a decade plus. i dont consider the pistons situation as bad as new york, but its going to get a lot worse before it gets better --- Sess Of the superuser "merSHINEsess" <cite>iiaattgg posted [p:882610661] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>@TheRock1525 i mean the knicks had hope 4 or so years ago. thats how quickly you can doom yourself for a decade plus. i dont consider the pistons situation as bad as new york, but its going to get a lot worse before it gets better</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 07/09/17 4:48:38 PM #208:	"lol I just gave a speech by Hitler -- GOT 'EM" --- Posted using GameFlux <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:882610854] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>"lol I just gave a speech by Hitler -- GOT 'EM"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 07/09/17 4:51:32 PM #209:	Nelson_Mandela posted... Not to return to an argument from last topic, but Nazism absolutely is a form of Leftism, as clearly evidenced by the quotes. Not to return to a counterargument from last topic, but if you think Nazism fits neatly into the left or the right, you don't understand the left or the right or Nazism. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:882611013] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote>Not to return to an argument from last topic, but Nazism absolutely is a form of Leftism, as clearly evidenced by the quotes.</quote> Not to return to a counterargument from last topic, but if you think Nazism fits neatly into the left or the right, you don't understand the left or the right or Nazism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 07/09/17 5:08:27 PM #210:	Add Donald Jr to the list of Trump campaign members that are looking fucked: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:882611855] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>Add Donald Jr to the list of Trump campaign members that are looking fucked: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/09/17 5:10:32 PM #211:	FFDragon posted... https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/884022979004428289 oh hey I think rubio found his spine somewhere He'll probably still vote for it though. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:882611959] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>FFDragon posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/884022979004428289 oh hey I think rubio found his spine somewhere</quote> He'll probably still vote for it though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/09/17 5:15:35 PM #212:	GuessMyUserName posted... So to sum up: Obama failed to do anything about the real but not real Russia story peddled by FAKE NEWS endlessly when we should be talking about the real & relevant issues like EMAILS. PS: Putin told me about this real great idea he has to protect our cyber! I love how this series of Tweets unintentionally narrates the story of how Putin manipulated him. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:882612219] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>GuessMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote> So to sum up: Obama failed to do anything about the real but not real Russia story peddled by FAKE NEWS endlessly when we should be talking about the real & relevant issues like EMAILS. PS: Putin told me about this real great idea he has to protect our cyber!</quote> I love how this series of Tweets unintentionally narrates the story of how Putin manipulated him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/09/17 5:21:42 PM #213:	Wait-- "(had to apologize)" What is he saying there? Is he saying he apologized to PUTIN that our intelligence agencies implicated him in election meddling? That's practically an SNL skit! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:882612542] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>Wait-- "(had to apologize)" What is he saying there? Is he saying he apologized to PUTIN that our intelligence agencies implicated him in election meddling? That's practically an SNL skit!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 07/09/17 5:22:02 PM #214:	LordoftheMorons posted... Add Donald Jr to the list of Trump campaign members that are looking fucked: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html ... Why would you admit that. Why would you EVER admit that? Confidential document or not, WHY? "Lets have a meeting with a member of a foreign power getting dirt on our enemies, what should we do? Oh, I know, WRITE IT DOWN" --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:882612558] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>Add Donald Jr to the list of Trump campaign members that are looking fucked: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html</quote> ... Why would you admit that. Why would you EVER admit that? Confidential document or not, WHY? "Lets have a meeting with a member of a foreign power getting dirt on our enemies, what should we do? Oh, I know, WRITE IT DOWN"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 07/09/17 5:28:00 PM #215:	Jakyl25 posted... GuessMyUserName posted... So to sum up: Obama failed to do anything about the real but not real Russia story peddled by FAKE NEWS endlessly when we should be talking about the real & relevant issues like EMAILS. PS: Putin told me about this real great idea he has to protect our cyber! I love how this series of Tweets unintentionally narrates the story of how Putin manipulated him. The best part of this is one of Trump's (and the right in general) favorite lines is that Obama was always "apologizing for America". --- Phantom Dust. <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:882612898] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GuessMyUserName posted...</cite> <quote> So to sum up: Obama failed to do anything about the real but not real Russia story peddled by FAKE NEWS endlessly when we should be talking about the real & relevant issues like EMAILS. PS: Putin told me about this real great idea he has to protect our cyber!</quote> I love how this series of Tweets unintentionally narrates the story of how Putin manipulated him.</quote> The best part of this is one of Trump's (and the right in general) favorite lines is that Obama was always "apologizing for America".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iiaattgg 07/09/17 5:28:42 PM #216:	@TheRock1525 i see everything you are saying and while you arent technically wrong i just am wary of how things fell apart here. i feel like a 15 year deep heroin addict looking at someone snorting painkillers who is saying they wont get addicted you wont realize it until its too late --- Sess Of the superuser "merSHINEsess" <cite>iiaattgg posted [p:882612942] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>@TheRock1525 i see everything you are saying and while you arent technically wrong i just am wary of how things fell apart here. i feel like a 15 year deep heroin addict looking at someone snorting painkillers who is saying they wont get addicted you wont realize it until its too late</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/09/17 5:31:34 PM #217:	SupremeZero posted... LordoftheMorons posted... Add Donald Jr to the list of Trump campaign members that are looking fucked: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html ... Why would you admit that. Why would you EVER admit that? Confidential document or not, WHY? "Lets have a meeting with a member of a foreign power getting dirt on our enemies, what should we do? Oh, I know, WRITE IT DOWN" Here's why "Mr. Kushner has submitted additional updates and included, out of an abundance of caution, this meeting with a Russian person, which he briefly attended at the request of his brother-in-law Donald Trump Jr. As Mr. Kushner has consistently stated, he is eager to cooperate and share what he knows.” If you rat on other people, you can save your own ass. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:882613058] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>SupremeZero posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>Add Donald Jr to the list of Trump campaign members that are looking fucked: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/politics/trump-russia-kushner-manafort.html</quote> ... Why would you admit that. Why would you EVER admit that? Confidential document or not, WHY? "Lets have a meeting with a member of a foreign power getting dirt on our enemies, what should we do? Oh, I know, WRITE IT DOWN"</quote> Here's why <quote>"Mr. Kushner has submitted additional updates and included, out of an abundance of caution, this meeting with a Russian person, which he briefly attended at the request of his brother-in-law Donald Trump Jr. As Mr. Kushner has consistently stated, he is eager to cooperate and share what he knows.”</quote> If you rat on other people, you can save your own ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 07/09/17 5:38:09 PM #218:	So then by that interpretation, Jared's selling out his brother-in-law while working for his dad who happens to be the President. Pretty bold in that way. --- GameFlux: Unofficial GameFAQs board browser <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:882613398] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>So then by that interpretation, Jared's selling out his brother-in-law while working for his dad who happens to be the President. Pretty bold in that way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/09/17 5:41:06 PM #219:	Well, the most recent investigation update was the walls are closing in around Kushner Then Kushner suddenly starts admitting meetings with Russian operatives from a year ago? That smells like rat to me --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:882613567] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>Well, the most recent investigation update was the walls are closing in around Kushner Then Kushner suddenly starts admitting meetings with Russian operatives from a year ago? That smells like rat to me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 07/09/17 5:48:59 PM #220:	Yeah, if this is what's happening then he's ratting people out because he's scared...not really that bold in and of itself. I guess it just goes to show what kind of damned-if-you-do damned-if-you-don't situation this is to think having your story conflict with the President's son in your confessions is your best option. --- Posted using GameFlux <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:882613990] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, if this is what's happening then he's ratting people out because he's scared...not really that bold in and of itself. I guess it just goes to show what kind of damned-if-you-do damned-if-you-don't situation this is to think having your story conflict with the President's son in your confessions is your best option.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iiaattgg 07/09/17 6:42:48 PM #221:	in all seriousness, the kkk event here was an odd phenomenon. yes they are total dickheads, but at the same time they did go through the proper channels for a legal protest. a lot of the counterprotestors did not, and then were mystified when thry got arrested, shot with tear gas i have mixed feelings. even when its just 30 or so clowns, it shows we still have some progress to make race wise (although that goes with out saying). but at the same time, it was nice to see one of if not our most prized rights protected by a local government who could not disagree more with what the message of that speech was --- Sess Of the superuser "merSHINEsess" <cite>iiaattgg posted [p:882616501] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>in all seriousness, the kkk event here was an odd phenomenon. yes they are total dickheads, but at the same time they did go through the proper channels for a legal protest. a lot of the counterprotestors did not, and then were mystified when thry got arrested, shot with tear gas i have mixed feelings. even when its just 30 or so clowns, it shows we still have some progress to make race wise (although that goes with out saying). but at the same time, it was nice to see one of if not our most prized rights protected by a local government who could not disagree more with what the message of that speech was</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 07/09/17 6:56:06 PM #222:	I think the KKK should be rounded up and arrested. Fuck free hate speach, Canada's on the right path. --- Corrik: Ive made th stupidest post possib Wang: Hold my beer. <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:882617216] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>I think the KKK should be rounded up and arrested. Fuck free hate speach, Canada's on the right path.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iiaattgg 07/09/17 6:58:50 PM #223:	i disagree with you but i respect your right to speak your mind freely! --- Sess Of the superuser "merSHINEsess" <cite>iiaattgg posted [p:882617358] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>i disagree with you but i respect your right to speak your mind freely!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 07/09/17 7:01:51 PM #224:	Who are you and what have you done with Sess? --- Corrik: Ive made th stupidest post possib Wang: Hold my beer. <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:882617509] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>Who are you and what have you done with Sess?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 07/09/17 7:16:04 PM #225:	I don't think they should be arrested I just think they're terrible fucking people --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:882618255] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>I don't think they should be arrested I just think they're terrible fucking people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iiaattgg 07/09/17 7:17:51 PM #226:	LordoftheMorons posted... I don't think they should be arrested I just think they're terrible fucking people --- Sess Of the superuser "merSHINEsess" <cite>iiaattgg posted [p:882618322] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think they should be arrested I just think they're terrible fucking people</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 07/09/17 7:22:04 PM #227:	They should not be arrested and criminalizing speech is dumb. I'd rather people be allowed to be shitheels up front so I know they're not worth dealing with. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:882618496] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>They should not be arrested and criminalizing speech is dumb. I'd rather people be allowed to be shitheels up front so I know they're not worth dealing with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BowserCuffs 07/09/17 7:37:42 PM #228:	FFDragon posted... They should not be arrested and criminalizing speech is dumb. I'd rather people be allowed to be shitheels up front so I know they're not worth dealing with. Unfortunately, it seems that allowing people to be shitheels up front only encourages other shitheels to continue being shitheels. And that's part of how we got Donald Trump for a president. --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. <cite>BowserCuffs posted [p:882619224] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>FFDragon posted...</cite> <quote>They should not be arrested and criminalizing speech is dumb. I'd rather people be allowed to be shitheels up front so I know they're not worth dealing with.</quote> Unfortunately, it seems that allowing people to be shitheels up front only encourages other shitheels to continue being shitheels. And that's part of how we got Donald Trump for a president.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iiaattgg 07/09/17 7:51:16 PM #229:	BowserCuffs posted... FFDragon posted... They should not be arrested and criminalizing speech is dumb. I'd rather people be allowed to be shitheels up front so I know they're not worth dealing with. Unfortunately, it seems that allowing people to be shitheels up front only encourages other shitheels to continue being shitheels. And that's part of how we got Donald Trump for a president. still doesnt mean we compromise the 1st amendment --- Sess Of the superuser "merSHINEsess" <cite>iiaattgg posted [p:882619898] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FFDragon posted...</cite> <quote>They should not be arrested and criminalizing speech is dumb. I'd rather people be allowed to be shitheels up front so I know they're not worth dealing with.</quote> Unfortunately, it seems that allowing people to be shitheels up front only encourages other shitheels to continue being shitheels. And that's part of how we got Donald Trump for a president.</quote> still doesnt mean we compromise the 1st amendment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 07/09/17 7:52:05 PM #230:	why not --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:882619951] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>why not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 07/09/17 7:58:44 PM #231:	iiaattgg posted... BowserCuffs posted... FFDragon posted... They should not be arrested and criminalizing speech is dumb. I'd rather people be allowed to be shitheels up front so I know they're not worth dealing with. Unfortunately, it seems that allowing people to be shitheels up front only encourages other shitheels to continue being shitheels. And that's part of how we got Donald Trump for a president. still doesnt mean we compromise the 1st amendment The 1st Amendment doesn't cover calls to violence, and hate speech is, in my opinion, inherently violent. --- Phantom Dust. <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:882620279] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>iiaattgg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FFDragon posted...</cite> <quote>They should not be arrested and criminalizing speech is dumb. I'd rather people be allowed to be shitheels up front so I know they're not worth dealing with.</quote> Unfortunately, it seems that allowing people to be shitheels up front only encourages other shitheels to continue being shitheels. And that's part of how we got Donald Trump for a president.</quote> still doesnt mean we compromise the 1st amendment</quote> The 1st Amendment doesn't cover calls to violence, and hate speech is, in my opinion, inherently violent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iiaattgg 07/09/17 7:59:27 PM #232:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... iiaattgg posted... BowserCuffs posted... FFDragon posted... They should not be arrested and criminalizing speech is dumb. I'd rather people be allowed to be shitheels up front so I know they're not worth dealing with. Unfortunately, it seems that allowing people to be shitheels up front only encourages other shitheels to continue being shitheels. And that's part of how we got Donald Trump for a president. still doesnt mean we compromise the 1st amendment The 1st Amendment doesn't cover calls to violence, and hate speech is, in my opinion, inherently violent. i respect your right to that opinion but i disagree. --- Sess Of the superuser "merSHINEsess" <cite>iiaattgg posted [p:882620323] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iiaattgg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FFDragon posted...</cite> <quote>They should not be arrested and criminalizing speech is dumb. I'd rather people be allowed to be shitheels up front so I know they're not worth dealing with.</quote> Unfortunately, it seems that allowing people to be shitheels up front only encourages other shitheels to continue being shitheels. And that's part of how we got Donald Trump for a president.</quote> still doesnt mean we compromise the 1st amendment</quote> The 1st Amendment doesn't cover calls to violence, and hate speech is, in my opinion, inherently violent.</quote> i respect your right to that opinion but i disagree.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BowserCuffs 07/09/17 8:16:30 PM #233:	I'm not saying "we should arrest people for their beliefs", mind you. I am, however, saying that we've given them the mistaken belief that their delusional bigoted beliefs deserve an equal platform to everything else. They don't. And the moment they start advocating hatred, bring the harsh hammer of justice down on their freedoms. Unfortunately, we failed to do this, and hate groups are now running about like they own the place simply because "their man" became president. ChaosTonyV4 posted... iiaattgg posted... BowserCuffs posted... FFDragon posted... They should not be arrested and criminalizing speech is dumb. I'd rather people be allowed to be shitheels up front so I know they're not worth dealing with. Unfortunately, it seems that allowing people to be shitheels up front only encourages other shitheels to continue being shitheels. And that's part of how we got Donald Trump for a president. still doesnt mean we compromise the 1st amendment The 1st Amendment doesn't cover calls to violence, and hate speech is, in my opinion, inherently violent. Very much so. In fact, hate speech and violence have a direct correlation, to the point where hate speech should inherently be considered "inciting violence". This also goes to all of the Republicans (and even some Democrats!) that talk about "the muslims" ever since 9/11, which has encouraged Americans to assault and harass them in public. --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. <cite>BowserCuffs posted [p:882621304] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>I'm not saying "we should arrest people for their beliefs", mind you. I am, however, saying that we've given them the mistaken belief that their delusional bigoted beliefs deserve an equal platform to everything else. They don't. And the moment they start advocating hatred, bring the harsh hammer of justice down on their freedoms. Unfortunately, we failed to do this, and hate groups are now running about like they own the place simply because "their man" became president. <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iiaattgg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FFDragon posted...</cite> <quote>They should not be arrested and criminalizing speech is dumb. I'd rather people be allowed to be shitheels up front so I know they're not worth dealing with.</quote> Unfortunately, it seems that allowing people to be shitheels up front only encourages other shitheels to continue being shitheels. And that's part of how we got Donald Trump for a president.</quote> still doesnt mean we compromise the 1st amendment</quote> The 1st Amendment doesn't cover calls to violence, and hate speech is, in my opinion, inherently violent.</quote> Very much so. In fact, hate speech and violence have a direct correlation, to the point where hate speech should inherently be considered "inciting violence". This also goes to all of the Republicans (and even some Democrats!) that talk about "the muslims" ever since 9/11, which has encouraged Americans to assault and harass them in public.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinglicious 07/09/17 8:22:16 PM #235:	BowserCuffs posted... Unfortunately, it seems that allowing people to be shitheels up front only encourages other shitheels to continue being shitheels. And that's part of how we got Donald Trump for a president Then let them. It'll serve as a strong check for when the government is failing and not listening to the people. Which yes, is how we get president Trump. --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Kinglicious posted [p:882621620] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote>Unfortunately, it seems that allowing people to be shitheels up front only encourages other shitheels to continue being shitheels. And that's part of how we got Donald Trump for a president</quote> Then let them. It'll serve as a strong check for when the government is failing and not listening to the people. Which yes, is how we get president Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/09/17 8:22:26 PM #236:	What exactly happens at a KKK rally? Like, are they out there OPENLY spreading their message, or are they just "We exist, draw your own conclusions?" --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:882621633] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>What exactly happens at a KKK rally? Like, are they out there OPENLY spreading their message, or are they just "We exist, draw your own conclusions?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 07/09/17 8:32:46 PM #237:	The first amendment is important, but it gets drummed way to hard. It, like the second amendment, doesn't work as well in modern society amd needsto be limited, just like private citizens shouldn't have unregistered machine guns and just plead the second. --- Corrik: Ive made th stupidest post possib Wang: Hold my beer. <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:882622218] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>The first amendment is important, but it gets drummed way to hard. It, like the second amendment, doesn't work as well in modern society amd needsto be limited, just like private citizens shouldn't have unregistered machine guns and just plead the second.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iiaattgg 07/09/17 8:33:27 PM #238:	sigh --- Sess Of the superuser "merSHINEsess" <cite>iiaattgg posted [p:882622266] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>sigh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/09/17 8:33:44 PM #239:	Hateful speech should be legal. Threats of violence against groups of people not so much. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:882622286] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>Hateful speech should be legal. Threats of violence against groups of people not so much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iiaattgg 07/09/17 8:35:13 PM #240:	TheRock1525 posted... Hateful speech should be legal. Threats of violence against groups of people not so much. --- Sess Of the superuser "merSHINEsess" <cite>iiaattgg posted [p:882622367] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Hateful speech should be legal. Threats of violence against groups of people not so much.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 07/09/17 8:36:30 PM #241:	TheRock1525 posted... Hateful speech should be legal. Threats of violence against groups of people not so much. These usually go hand in hand, though. It's human nature to incite violence via hate even if violence isn't specifically being encouraged. Causality has to be taken into consideration, being literal about it leads to too much potential of violence withought an official instigator, even when everyone can point to the cause. --- Corrik: Ive made th stupidest post possib Wang: Hold my beer. <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:882622453] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Hateful speech should be legal. Threats of violence against groups of people not so much.</quote> These usually go hand in hand, though. It's human nature to incite violence via hate even if violence isn't specifically being encouraged. Causality has to be taken into consideration, being literal about it leads to too much potential of violence withought an official instigator, even when everyone can point to the cause.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 07/09/17 8:36:55 PM #242:	There is a difference between saying "I hate X" and "Kill all X" Granted when you have the second the first part is implied, but you can have the first without the second. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:882622480] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>There is a difference between saying "I hate X" and "Kill all X" Granted when you have the second the first part is implied, but you can have the first without the second.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 07/09/17 8:39:46 PM #243:	FFDragon posted... There is a difference between saying "I hate X" and "Kill all X" Granted when you have the second the first part is implied, but you can have the first without the second. When it's in front of a crowd hanging on their every word, I don't think there's much of a difference. --- Corrik: Ive made th stupidest post possib Wang: Hold my beer. <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:882622652] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>FFDragon posted...</cite> <quote>There is a difference between saying "I hate X" and "Kill all X" Granted when you have the second the first part is implied, but you can have the first without the second.</quote> When it's in front of a crowd hanging on their every word, I don't think there's much of a difference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 07/09/17 8:40:23 PM #244:	LapisLazuli posted... FFDragon posted... There is a difference between saying "I hate X" and "Kill all X" Granted when you have the second the first part is implied, but you can have the first without the second. When it's in front of a crowd hanging on their every word, I don't think there's much of a difference. Because they're listening to you, I hate X = Kill all X? --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:882622687] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FFDragon posted...</cite> <quote>There is a difference between saying "I hate X" and "Kill all X" Granted when you have the second the first part is implied, but you can have the first without the second.</quote> When it's in front of a crowd hanging on their every word, I don't think there's much of a difference.</quote> Because they're listening to you, I hate X = Kill all X?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 07/09/17 8:41:02 PM #245:	When you are a figure riling your followers, yes. --- Corrik: Ive made th stupidest post possib Wang: Hold my beer. <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:882622733] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>When you are a figure riling your followers, yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/09/17 8:49:14 PM #246:	LapisLazuli posted... When you are a figure riling your followers, yes. Gonna go with a big fat no on this one. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:882623242] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>When you are a figure riling your followers, yes.</quote> Gonna go with a big fat no on this one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/09/17 8:50:21 PM #247:	I mean by this same token, the guy who shot Scalise was riled up as well. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:882623317] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>I mean by this same token, the guy who shot Scalise was riled up as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/09/17 9:13:57 PM #248:	I would say "I hate X" is a threat of violence against X if your group has a proud history of killing X --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:882624587] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>I would say "I hate X" is a threat of violence against X if your group has a proud history of killing X</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 07/09/17 9:17:32 PM #249:	Then let's get philosophical. Say we make hate speech a crime and there are now a list of words and phrases that can get you arrested. Obviously the n-bomb would be on that list. Are previous rap albums now contraband? Will they be arrested for performing songs on stage? What about books like Huckleberry Finn? --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:882624774] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>Then let's get philosophical. Say we make hate speech a crime and there are now a list of words and phrases that can get you arrested. Obviously the n-bomb would be on that list. Are previous rap albums now contraband? Will they be arrested for performing songs on stage? What about books like Huckleberry Finn?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iiaattgg 07/09/17 9:17:52 PM #250:	Jakyl25 posted... I would say "I hate X" is a threat of violence against X if your group has a proud history of killing X i disagree with this strongly --- Sess Of the superuser "merSHINEsess" <cite>iiaattgg posted [p:882624789] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>I would say "I hate X" is a threat of violence against X if your group has a proud history of killing X</quote> i disagree with this strongly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 07/09/17 9:19:42 PM #251:	I know you do --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:882624892] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>I know you do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iiaattgg 07/09/17 9:20:48 PM #252:	no need to be rude man --- Sess Of the superuser "merSHINEsess" <cite>iiaattgg posted [p:882624974] in Politics C... [t:75538117]...</cite> <quote>no need to be rude man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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