Board 8 > Trdl answers any questions about Magic the Gathering

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My Immortal posted...

What do you think the announcement will be today? Return of core sets? Return to the 3-block structure? Something else?

The Mana Sword posted...

Here is the answer:

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/metamorphosis-2-0-2017-06-12

rip small sets

(sorry to hijack the topic)

Let's make a general topic about this.
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SupremeZero posted...

What

Is the capitol of Magic Assyria?

lol i dunno

Emeraldegg posted...

What is your opinion on eldrazi, power wise? Do you think they're op? Are the new iteration of them with wastes any better than the old versions?

The old Eldrazi are fine if you're actually hardcasting them, but, uh...


Old Emrakul in particular should not have had pro-colored-spells. It needed better ways to stop at instant speed.

The Oath Eldrazi (Thought-Knot Seer and Reality Smasher in particular) are waaaaay too pushed in Modern and Eternal formats because they abuse cards that were designed only with the big fast originals in mind. Eldritch Moon Eldrazi were pretty sweet though! I'm still mad they banned New Emrakul.
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greengravy294 posted...

Well trdl I would like to play Blue because Jace is awesome


Now what do I do?

greengravy294 posted...

Like standard is the most normal format right? Vintage is the beta and alpha shit that you can't find anywhere and stuff.

Standard is where you start, yeah. Let's talk about this on Discord; there's a lot to say that is beyond my typing capability on mobile.
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I'm off lunch in a few minutes I will pester you some other time
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Hell yeah Final Fantasy TCG. Best new card game of the past 15 years. Really hope it makes it over here.
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FFTCG has been out here since October!
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Uh questions. What set did you start playing in and what was your favorite block.
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The Mana Sword posted...

FFTCG has been out here since October!

I am aware! I have a couple of decks for it, even! I'm just saying I hope it "makes it" as in "remains profitable enough that they continue to print it for us" cause yeah I know in Japan the thing has had like 5 years of cards or something-- would be nice to see it last that long here.

Cause man the things are kinda rare as is-- I'm assuming it's a Wii kinda thing where they just have been underproducing (can't imagine the costs are too high they don't even need to hire artists or anything, just gotta localize) but it's kinda disconcerting.
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There's a huge inherent problem for card games where cards don't release worldwide at the same time.
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Other question: Is burn any good in modern?
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One deck style i won a fairly big tournament involved getting saprolings/creature tokens out and cards to multiply how many creature tokens you get to place on the board (forest land type). Are any modern decks similar to this style? I had so much fun with that deck.
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Emeraldegg posted...

Other question: Is burn any good in modern?

It's been top tier in some form since the very beginning of the format!

Metal_DK posted...

One deck style i won a fairly big tournament involved getting saprolings/creature tokens out and cards to multiply how many creature tokens you get to place on the board (forest land type). Are any modern decks similar to this style? I had so much fun with that deck.

Token-spam decks aren't centered in Green anymore, they tend to be Black-White. BW Tokens is a solid tier-2 deck in Modern. It doesn't use any doublers though, they're way too slow.
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Wow, that i my strategy for the grand prix(s).

The real question is, Jund Classic or Death's Shadow? I own the pieces for both, but have never actually played a game with DS.
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Death's Shadow seems to be considered Jund+ at the moment. Play the best deck if you have it.
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there's a non-zero chance that something from DS gets banned tomorrow, so keep that in mind
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It's undeniably stronger and all around better, but I've read it's tricky to pilot and I don't have time to practice with it.

Even if it gets banned, it's legal for Vegas, also
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oh yeah, right, I forgot they made that exception for vegas this time around
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Is anyone going to GP Vegas?

I wish I could, but my group bailed. Even if DnT is kinda bad now
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What's your favorite keyword
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If I'm playing a Cyclops tribal deck, and one of my Cyclops gets destroyed while I have Jar of Eyeballs in play, how many eyeball counters do I get?
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Yankees posted...

Is anyone going to GP Vegas?

I wish I could, but my group bailed. Even if DnT is kinda bad now

Brian DeMars just posted an article about DnT on Channel Fireball, you should check it out.

Cybat posted...

What's your favorite keyword

That's a really good one. Probably Flying; it's the perfect blend of simplicity, power, and flavor.
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TomNook posted...

If I'm playing a Cyclops tribal deck, and one of my Cyclops gets destroyed while I have Jar of Eyeballs in play, how many eyeball counters do I get?

You still get two, even if that is a flavor fail.
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If I "accidentally" look at the top card of my opponent's library and the judge makes him shuffle because of that, does my Cosi's Trickster still get a +1/+1 counter?
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Lopen posted...

Uh questions. What set did you start playing in and what was your favorite block.

I missed this one.

I started playing in Odyssey with friends from Boy Scouts, but I didn't start really playing until Alara block. I think my favorite block was original Zendikar block. Every set was pretty cool, and Rise of the Eldrazi remains the greatest non-Masters draft format ever.

(Greatest single set is original Innistrad, but good lord the other sets in that block were bad.)
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TomNook posted...

If I "accidentally" look at the top card of my opponent's library and the judge makes him shuffle because of that, does my Cosi's Trickster still get a +1/+1 counter?

No, because you're being DQ'd for using quotes with your "accidental" hypothetical.
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Up
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Anything else?
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Zendikar block was legit
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I guess I have one. What would you say is the top tier deck that requires the most skill to use? Doesn't have to be format limited, can be any one you've seen in your experience.
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Is Black Lotus still THE card?
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Anagram posted...

Is Black Lotus still THE card?

I'm not trdl but absolutely yes
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I mean, it depends on what you mean by "THE card."

The rarest and most expensive card? Yes it is still this.

The most powerful card? No. It's absurdly powerful, but it was never the most powerful card even in alpha.

A relevant card? Not really. It's still relevant in Vintage, but that format has been on life suppprt for a decade.
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I assume THE card is like, the one everyone wants. When people say MTG they say black lotus, so that's what I based it off of
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redrocket_pub posted...

I mean, it depends on what you mean by "THE card."

The rarest and most expensive card? Yes it is still this.

The most powerful card? No. It's absurdly powerful, but it was never the most powerful card even in alpha.

A relevant card? Not really. It's still relevant in Vintage, but that format has been on life suppprt for a decade.

I mean, Lotus is in the top three for most powerful cards ever. If you exclude cards that aren't legal in any format, it's a dead heat between Lotus and Ancestral.
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Is Black Lotus illegal in most formats?
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Its only legal in vintage. The formats are Standard, which are just the latest few sets, modern, which is everything back up to a certain set (8th edition I believe) and onward, legacy, which is all sets but with a banlist, and vintage, which is all sets no banlist.

Black lotus was in the very first set, so it's only even applicable to legacy and vintage. It's banned in legacy, therefore vintage.
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Thanks.
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It's also restricted in Vintage, meaning you can only play a single copy of the card.
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Now that I did not know
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Emeraldegg posted...

I guess I have one. What would you say is the top tier deck that requires the most skill to use? Doesn't have to be format limited, can be any one you've seen in your experience.

Well, the meme answer is that the best deck in Legacy is Doomsday Combo, but there are only 5 people on Earth good enough to pilot it. It's too complicated even to explain very well, and execution of it is completely contextual... I've never seen it done well personally.

Out of decks I've seen/played, I would say Legacy Storm is the toughest. It's a very complex set of decision trees to win, especially against other blue decks packing Force of Will, Flusterstorm, and Stifle. At any given point in the execution, there are about 8 different things you can do, and only one of them is right. You have to manage mana, graveyard cards, life total, sequencing... and the deck has no "plan B" by design. There's a reason people don't play it at huge tournaments because you just burn out so quickly.
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Man storm, now that I think about it, would be the one mechanic to be that intricate. I like it
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Sceptilesolar posted...

redrocket_pub posted...

I mean, it depends on what you mean by "THE card."

The rarest and most expensive card? Yes it is still this.

The most powerful card? No. It's absurdly powerful, but it was never the most powerful card even in alpha.

A relevant card? Not really. It's still relevant in Vintage, but that format has been on life suppprt for a decade.

I mean, Lotus is in the top three for most powerful cards ever. If you exclude cards that aren't legal in any format, it's a dead heat between Lotus and Ancestral.

I'd say Sol Ring is in this discussion too, but IMO Lotus is 100% the most powerful because it goes into just about ANY deck, not just blue (Ancestral) or artifact-based (Sol).
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Man I knew sol ring was powerful but I dind't know people thought of it as being THAT powerful
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I'd say Sol Ring's power level is very favourable to the Mox cards. It's a 1 mana investment, but it puts you up on mana when you play it, just like a Mox does.
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1) what the hell is an Urza and what does he do that makes him so annoying in versus contests.

2) what's the best characters from Magic that would fit in one of the usual MPFC matches.
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Emeraldegg posted...

Man I knew sol ring was powerful but I dind't know people thought of it as being THAT powerful

In Vintage Cube it's widely considered the best firstpick, even over any of the Power 9. Not to mention that it breaks EDH games in half when someone leads with it into another mana rock and is jamming their 5 drops on turn 2.
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Kinglicious posted...

1) what the hell is an Urza and what does he do that makes him so annoying in versus contests.

2) what's the best characters from Magic that would fit in one of the usual MPFC matches.

This one is a doozie. I'll get to it once I'm off work.
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Sol Ring is really nice because it gives you +1 mana the turn you play it, much like the Moxes, but also gives you +2 in following turns to their +1. On occasion you may really need the color first turn but yeah overall I think it's probably better than a Mox.
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Anagram posted...

Is Black Lotus still THE card?

Contract from Below has always been and will always be the best MTG card of all time.
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oh by all means, take your time on mine.
the only thing i honestly remember about urza is every topic basically turning into "so what does he do" followed by "this all sounds stupid, i still don't know what he does, but he sounds powerful with some weird dimension powers i guess."
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