Board 8 > Do you consciously make an effort to support local/small businesses?

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Unknown_voter
05/29/17 10:34:18 AM
#1:


Do you consciously make an effort to support local/small businesses?



Essentially, assume that other factors involved are reasonably similar, does a business being local make you more likely to use it? Or does it not factor into your decision whatsoever? Would you even be willing to go to a local business if factors were somewhat disadvantageous to you (ie pricing, location, etc.)
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wg64Z
05/29/17 10:42:51 AM
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Best price/product. Don't care who makes it.
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foolm0r0n
05/29/17 10:56:51 AM
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To a small extent. Should do it more since I have really good local stuff here.
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Steven_Cynthia
05/29/17 11:00:23 AM
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i don't go out of my way to avoid them, but consciously support them no
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gearofages
05/29/17 11:05:40 AM
#5:


Small businesses today can have assets in the millions and still keep their title, so those business owners are doing a lot better than I am. They don't need my help. Most small businesses are way overpriced and poorly run anyway, and that's why most of them fail.
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SeabassDebeste
05/29/17 11:08:33 AM
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Very little. It makes me 'feel good' to get something from a small business, but it usually exhausts a bit of physical/mental toll.

I buy from food carts a lot. Will probably buy more books from the local book store than Amazon. But the grocery shopping happens mostly at Costco and Chipotle is a pretty big part of my diet still.

I tend to be pretty price-and-convenience-conscious, and unfortunately, bigger chains tend to provide that (or at least give the impression of that).
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pyresword
05/29/17 11:11:43 AM
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The only example I can think of is that if I have the option, I watch movies at a local independent theater rather than at the main one. That's mainly because they play anime movies and stuff that normal theaters don't always play, and so I have a vested interest in keeping them in business.

(Ie. I will go to this theater even if another theater has the same movie at the same or slightly lower price, but it's out of a desire to support this specific business and not some general thing about local businesses vs. chains)
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Unknown_voter
05/29/17 11:24:05 AM
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I tend to support local businesses, even going out of my way or paying slightly more if it is for entertainment purposes, particularly since the product is usually superior. (movie theaters, food, breweries, etc)

I tend to go wherever is closest/cheapest that has what I need for stuff that is kind of a chore like grocery shopping or home improvement.
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jcgamer107
05/29/17 11:37:31 AM
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Initially voted for the first answer but now I'm thinking that I don't really give them special consideration too often. For example this local game store is pretty much the only one I go to anymore, but it's got games from literally every gen and is run better than Gamestop. When it comes to fast food/food I hardly ever buy local because there aren't that many places that I like, that are also reasonably priced. So I guess most of the time it is just more about objectively which place is run better, has the better product/prices etc, which a good chunk of the time happens to be a local place. I have gone out of my way to try new local places, occasionally.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/29/17 11:37:56 AM
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Restaurants and bars and such, yes.
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KingBartz
05/29/17 12:34:59 PM
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local restaurants sure, and local services of course when I need those, but a lot of local businesses I don't need
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SmartMuffin
05/29/17 12:49:26 PM
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No. The opposite, in fact.
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MrGreenonion
05/29/17 12:50:36 PM
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There are certain stores that I like going to, like my local comics/tabletop gaming store and a regional retro games shop, and I'll go there before looking online for stuff. But there's also big chain stores that fall in that category, like my local Target, so it's more that I like to go to certain places, and some of those places happen to be small/local businesses.

Same for restaurants. There's a local barbecue place I love and a local Indian place, but Chipotle is also one of my favorites.
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Zachnorn
05/29/17 12:50:47 PM
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wg64Z posted...
Best price/product. Don't care who makes it.

Pretty much this.

Honestly, most places I go to are big businesses. Aside from buying online, I do most of my general shopping at places like Target, I mostly eat at big chain restaurants, and generally just go for the larger businesses. I am a regular at some small businesses though.

Basically, small businesses don't get extra points from me for being a small business. They have to offer something their competitors don't, either better pricing, products, or service. Otherwise, I'll go to a competitor.
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CherryCokes
05/29/17 12:55:37 PM
#15:


When it's the best option, yes
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foolm0r0n
05/29/17 1:07:24 PM
#16:


SmartMuffin posted...
No. The opposite, in fact.

What a sad life
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StealThisSheen
05/29/17 1:23:00 PM
#17:


No.

Most of the local businesses around here only hire friends and family, have crazy high prices, and take advantage of the locals by selling them on those "good ol' boy" feels, so nothing really makes me think I should
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SmartMuffin
05/29/17 2:00:38 PM
#18:


foolm0r0n posted...
SmartMuffin posted...
No. The opposite, in fact.

What a sad life


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foolm0r0n
05/29/17 2:07:40 PM
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SmartMuffin posted...
Lurn2divisionoflabor

lrn2massiveinefficienciesandqualitysacrificesatscaleduetobrandvaluebeing
majorityofcorporateworthinsteadoftheactualproduct

That being said SOME companies are properly run and avoid that at scale, like chik fil a, but it's so rare because so many business manager are idiots
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banananor
05/29/17 2:13:15 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
SmartMuffin posted...
No. The opposite, in fact.

What a sad life

haha, yeah. intentionally avoiding small businesses, even at cost to yourself? that's nuts
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banananor
05/29/17 2:15:01 PM
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to answer the question, i'm more likely to go to the local restaurant than a chain one, but that has more to do with quality than anything else

i went to the same mom + pop laundromat for years and developed a relationship with the owners, that was kind of nice i guess
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foolm0r0n
05/29/17 2:17:52 PM
#22:


banananor posted...
haha, yeah. intentionally avoiding small businesses, even at cost to yourself? that's nuts

MBAs are strange creatures
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redrocket_pub
05/29/17 2:23:31 PM
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Small businesses don't hire a lot of MBAs so really it's just self-interest.
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CaptainOfCrush
05/29/17 2:23:44 PM
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I'll eat at local restaurants but that's about it. Almost all of the stuff I buy to actually bring into my home come from national chains. I don't have a preference one way or the other, but shopping at the big guys (including Amazon) is usually cheaper and almost always more convenient.

The one exception I can see myself making in the future is for art if I ever become an artsy snob. It's fun to visit those local art fairs and they always have very intriguing stuff.
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SmartMuffin
05/29/17 2:55:39 PM
#25:


but it's so rare because so many business manager are idiots

and yet somehow this doesn't apply to your local schmuck who inherited a family business from his father?
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foolm0r0n
05/29/17 2:59:34 PM
#26:


SmartMuffin posted...
and yet somehow this doesn't apply to your local schmuck who inherited a family business from his father?

No because they don't have $50 bil in brand value to float so they need to maintain the quality of the product or else they'll go out of business
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NowItsAngeTime
05/29/17 3:02:11 PM
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I go to wherever is good
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SmartMuffin
05/29/17 3:10:28 PM
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Where does "brand value" come from?
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foolm0r0n
05/29/17 3:24:17 PM
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At large scale, advertising and anti-competition
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MariaTaylor
05/29/17 3:28:21 PM
#30:


wg64Z posted...
Best price/product. Don't care who makes it.

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Vlado
05/29/17 5:44:34 PM
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Absolutely. Bulgarian first. Plus organic, if food.
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Hardcore_Adult
05/29/17 5:47:57 PM
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Sure. Local Restaurants, Shops and Pubs. As long as they keep up the right standard of service, they get my business.
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SmartMuffin
05/29/17 5:50:10 PM
#33:


Vlado posted...
Absolutely. Bulgarian first. Plus organic, if food.


Hey foolmo this is your ally. :)
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Shaduln
05/29/17 5:52:05 PM
#34:


Depends. I've found that things like flooring and other house stuff is typically way better to go with the locals.
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MenuWars
05/29/17 5:52:19 PM
#35:


Yes, albeit not as much as I used to, I used to try and buy games from independent suppliers, but a lot of the time they had zero stock so I always left disappointed. Dude's had zero business sense.
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foolm0r0n
05/29/17 6:21:16 PM
#36:


SmartMuffin posted...
Vlado posted...
Absolutely. Bulgarian first. Plus organic, if food.

Hey foolmo this is your ally. :)

"Bulgarian first" isn't local, it's just nationalist. Bulgaria's a big place. Also organic is stupid.
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Vlado
05/29/17 6:25:35 PM
#37:


foolm0r0n posted...
organic is stupid.

It's not stupid to eat food that contains no harmful substances. It's the opposite of stupid.
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StealThisSheen
05/29/17 6:33:53 PM
#38:


Vlado posted...
foolm0r0n posted...
organic is stupid.

It's not stupid to eat food that contains no harmful substances. It's the opposite of stupid.


Spoilers: Organic food still contains harmful substances. Just different harmful substances.
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SmartMuffin
05/29/17 6:40:54 PM
#39:


"Bulgarian first" isn't local, it's just nationalist.

It's the same logic. "Let's keep our money in the community" is just as xenophobic as "buy American" or what have you.
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Unknown_voter
05/29/17 6:45:40 PM
#40:


Shaduln posted...
Depends. I've found that things like flooring and other house stuff is typically way better to go with the locals.


This brings up another thing I am wondering, which is whether or not people who feel more attached or invested to their community (home owners, people with steady jobs, kids, etc) are more likely to use local businesses. I would guess the answer is yes.
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StealThisSheen
05/29/17 7:47:38 PM
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Actually, that does change things a bit

Services, like plumbing, construction, pest control, etc. I try to go local. They need the business more than a bigger company does and have a lot more to stake on their reputation.

EDIT: Except for heating and cooling and auto repair. Local business have been caught doing some shady shit and collaborating to screw customers.
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ninkendo
05/29/17 7:50:00 PM
#42:


SmartMuffin posted...
No. The opposite, in fact.

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CherryCokes
05/30/17 3:46:33 AM
#43:


Guys, let SmartMuffin live his sad life of chain pizza and leave him alone
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Paratroopa1
05/30/17 4:34:40 AM
#44:


Depends on what it's for, but generally speaking if price and quality are more or less the same I'll go with the one that doesn't have a national presence

If the price is higher or the quality is worse though I won't stick with the local business through thick and thin

If the price AND quality are higher, as it basically always is with pizza joints, then it depends on how rich I'm feeling that day
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Vlado
05/30/17 5:29:37 AM
#45:


StealThisSheen posted...
Spoilers: Organic food still contains harmful substances. Just different harmful substances.

By "organic," I mean food that is made from verified harmless ingredients. Not sure what that label is stamped on in the US, but what I mean when I say it is "healthy food." If you're just being technical ("every food's got something harmful in it"), lmao, bye.
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foolm0r0n
05/30/17 11:24:55 AM
#46:


Vlado posted...
but what I mean when I say it is "healthy food."

No, you mean "that marketing garbage that I have foolishly fallen for"

Obviously everyone prefers healthier food, just because you have fallen for the billionaire's latest advertising trick doesn't make you different or superior than anyone else
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foolm0r0n
05/30/17 11:26:37 AM
#47:


CherryCokes posted...
Guys, let SmartMuffin live his sad life of chain pizza and leave him alone

Muffin's the type of person to butt into a serious argument over whether domino's is better than pizza hut by saying papa john's is actually the best pizza
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Vlado
05/30/17 11:40:48 AM
#48:


foolm0r0n posted...
No, you mean "that marketing garbage that I have foolishly fallen for"

Obviously everyone prefers healthier food, just because you have fallen for the billionaire's latest advertising trick doesn't make you different or superior than anyone else

I think you're placing too much emphasis on the word "organic." What I mean is "healthier food." I don't (usually) go to specific "organic" shops, I just read labels and ingredients and decide what to buy. Of course, if those lied, it couldn't be helped, but trusting them is the best I can do (outside of producing my own food which I occasionally do).
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foolm0r0n
05/30/17 12:32:43 PM
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Okay then....
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