Poll of the Day > why do wine bottles still use corks in this day and age

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helIy
05/25/17 5:11:17 PM
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stupid archaic bullshit gotta buy a fuckin corckscrew for this shit
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Muffinz0rz
05/25/17 5:17:37 PM
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It helps wine noobs distinguish which wine is good and which wine is bad without having to taste it
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helIy
05/25/17 5:18:36 PM
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i mean, a cheapass bottle of $2 wine has a cork in it, so how does that matter
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Mead
05/25/17 5:19:51 PM
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Not just that but the trees that grow cork are dying out

Wine should just be in box form from here on out
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helIy
05/25/17 5:20:30 PM
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not even box form, just put a fucking screw cap on it
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TheCyborgNinja
05/25/17 5:21:51 PM
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Because some people just love being cork soakers, and would rather die than use an alternative bottle sealing method.
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AlleRacing
05/25/17 5:53:22 PM
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Dunno, my beer of choice uses a cork as well, though it's not fully inserted and instead held in by a wire doohickey.
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AllstarSniper32
05/25/17 5:55:35 PM
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I bet the reason is that it's the best way to let wine store and age.
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wwinterj25
05/25/17 6:14:49 PM
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AllstarSniper32 posted...
I bet the reason is that it's the best way to let wine store and age.

Indeed it is. Corks don't let that much oxygen into the bottle so it gives wine chance to breath but that all that much.
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helIy
05/25/17 6:29:22 PM
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its a weird synthetic cork thing

wine tastes awful.

i probably didn't let it "breathe" long enough or spin it around in the glass for 19 minutes
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Sensual_T_Rex
05/25/17 6:58:58 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
Because some people just love being cork soakers, and would rather die than use an alternative bottle sealing method.


You know as soon as I read TCs topic title I said to myself TC sounds like a natural cork soaker.
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Mead
05/25/17 7:02:40 PM
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helIy posted...
its a weird synthetic cork thing

wine tastes awful.

i probably didn't let it "breathe" long enough or spin it around in the glass for 19 minutes


No, wine just tastes bad.

The whole thing is like the old "emperor's new clothes" story. Wine tastes bad and everyone knows it, they just act like it doesn't because they want to seem adult.
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FourthDimension
05/25/17 7:03:22 PM
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Wine should come in a bag, like it does in Canada.
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helIy
05/25/17 7:07:35 PM
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no that's ketchup
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Kyuubi4269
05/25/17 7:09:27 PM
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Mead posted...
The whole thing is like the old "emperor's new clothes" story. Wine tastes bad and everyone knows it, they just act like it doesn't because they want to seem adult.

That applies to all non-spirits though.
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juicebox4
05/25/17 7:10:14 PM
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easy

take a dull knife, push the cork INTO the bottle. pour wine.

problem solved.
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WhiskeyDisk
05/25/17 7:12:10 PM
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This topic sounds like a bunch of spoiled grapes to me.
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thanosibe
05/25/17 7:58:57 PM
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It preserves the pretension that wine "tasters" crave. They can't be among the Carlos Rossi jug wine drinkers with the screw off cap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiB6JvWARXQ

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Amuseum
05/25/17 8:19:50 PM
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TC should learn to pull the cork with his mouth.
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Krazy_Kirby
05/25/17 8:20:03 PM
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Mead posted...
Not just that but the trees that grow cork are dying out

Wine should just be in box form from here on out


plant more of them
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adjl
05/25/17 8:21:19 PM
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helIy posted...
its a weird synthetic cork thing

wine tastes awful.

i probably didn't let it "breathe" long enough or spin it around in the glass for 19 minutes


I'm guessing it's more to do with this:
helIy posted...
a cheapass bottle of $2 wine


wwinterj25 posted...
AllstarSniper32 posted...
I bet the reason is that it's the best way to let wine store and age.

Indeed it is. Corks don't let that much oxygen into the bottle so it gives wine chance to breath but that all that much.


That varies by wine. The whole "wine gets better with age" thing isn't actually true (at least not as a blanket statement). Wine changes with age, as stuff oxidizes, but whether that entails getting better or worse changes on a wine-to-wine basis, and on just how long it's aged. The bottle's closure will affect that oxidation process, and I would imagine some wines benefit more from having a little bit of airflow through a cork, while others benefit more from being kept airtight by a screw cap.

It's also possible this one went with a cork just to pretend to be fancier, because that also happens. Sometimes, vinting is really complicated and there are a billion different factors to consider, other times, you can just take it completely at face value.
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wwinterj25
05/25/17 9:09:19 PM
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adjl posted...
That varies by wine.


Good to know. I'm not a fan of wine anyway. Still the fully detailed explanation you provided is always welcome.
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deoxxys
05/25/17 9:21:42 PM
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whining about wine, eh?
I had to
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Lil_Bit83
05/25/17 9:30:05 PM
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I dunno.
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helIy
05/25/17 9:55:49 PM
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adjl posted...
I'm guessing it's more to do with this:

no, it's more to do with alcohol tastes really strongly of hair spray to me, like my tongue has alcohol sensitivity and i can taste that shit in just about everything alcohol has been put into.

so i look for wines that are supposed to taste more juice-like than anything.

so this time i tried sweet red table wine. the last time i tried wine was...like 3-5 years ago, and it was a something i can't spell, so yeah.
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Jiggy101011
05/25/17 11:11:55 PM
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helIy posted...
adjl posted...
I'm guessing it's more to do with this:

no, it's more to do with alcohol tastes really strongly of hair spray to me, like my tongue has alcohol sensitivity and i can taste that shit in just about everything alcohol has been put into.

so i look for wines that are supposed to taste more juice-like than anything.

so this time i tried sweet red table wine. the last time i tried wine was...like 3-5 years ago, and it was a something i can't spell, so yeah.


It wasn't a Moscato was it? Those taste like couch syrup to me, my mother in law loves it. Chianti or a Malbec can be really good and fairly cheap in a supermarket.
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Red_Frog
05/25/17 11:13:07 PM
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thanosibe posted...
It preserves the pretension that wine "tasters" crave. They can't be among the Carlos Rossi jug wine drinkers with the screw off cap.

Truth. I'm a drinker. I keep a jug of Carlo's Chablis at all times. I don't care who knows about it either, it's cheaper than water and tastes better.
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Monopoman
05/26/17 12:26:41 AM
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VioletMassacre posted...
Mead posted...
The whole thing is like the old "emperor's new clothes" story. Wine tastes bad and everyone knows it, they just act like it doesn't because they want to seem adult.

This is what I think about beer. Or most alcohol related drinks, actually.

Nah, good beer actually is enjoyable to drink. If your only experience with beer is Bud Light or some shit, you haven't even had a single one yet.
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helIy
05/26/17 12:46:51 AM
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Monopoman posted...
Nah, good beer actually is enjoyable to drink

lol no it's not.

all alcohol is literally an acquired taste.

and it's like that because it tastes like drinking liquified garbage. you can't honestly argue that.
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WhiskeyDisk
05/26/17 1:00:41 AM
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helIy posted...
Monopoman posted...
Nah, good beer actually is enjoyable to drink

lol no it's not.

all alcohol is literally an acquired taste.

and it's like that because it tastes like drinking liquified garbage. you can't honestly argue that.





Didn't you just recently try and come at me in regards to my bad old days, and here you are basically admitting you're Ned Flanders?

WTF man?
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dainkinkaide
05/26/17 1:34:28 AM
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Mead posted...
Not just that but the trees that grow cork are dying out

One of the major threats to cork oaks (and the endangered species that dwell in cork oak landscapes) is actually people not using cork as much. With lower demand for cork, there's less financial incentive for people to maintain cork oak landscapes.

Harvesting cork from a cork oak, if done properly, doesn't harm the tree at all, and a typical cork oak can be harvested for cork 16 times in its 200-year lifespan.
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sveksii
05/26/17 2:44:25 AM
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helIy posted...
Monopoman posted...
Nah, good beer actually is enjoyable to drink

lol no it's not.

all alcohol is literally an acquired taste.

and it's like that because it tastes like drinking liquified garbage. you can't honestly argue that.
Translation: I like to pretend my opinions are facts cause I'm a bigot.
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helIy
05/26/17 2:48:20 AM
#34:


sveksii posted...
Translation: I like to pretend my opinions are facts cause I'm a bigot.

look, it's clear you're upset because of reasons no one knows but you

but you need to let go. accept the truth, it'll set you free, probably. at the very least it'll unclench your ass.

maybe go take a bath, get some bubbles in there, maybe one of them sweet bath bomb things? some candles. make that shit fancy.

because you need it, maybe buy some Eve to take care of that little problem you have, too.

love you, boo. <3
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helIy
05/26/17 2:50:15 AM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
helIy posted...
Monopoman posted...
Nah, good beer actually is enjoyable to drink

lol no it's not.

all alcohol is literally an acquired taste.

and it's like that because it tastes like drinking liquified garbage. you can't honestly argue that.





Didn't you just recently try and come at me in regards to my bad old days, and here you are basically admitting you're Ned Flanders?

WTF man?

no?

i don't think i've responded to anything you've said in years

and alcohol tastes like garbage, this is a fact. it's literally rotten fruits and shit.
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sveksii
05/26/17 2:50:39 AM
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helIy posted...
sveksii posted...
Translation: I like to pretend my opinions are facts cause I'm a bigot.

look, it's clear you're upset because of reasons no one knows but you

but you need to let go. accept the truth, it'll set you free, probably. at the very least it'll unclench your ass.

maybe go take a bath, get some bubbles in there, maybe one of them sweet bath bomb things? some candles. make that shit fancy.

because you need it, maybe buy some Eve to take care of that little problem you have, too.

love you, boo. <3
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helIy
05/26/17 2:52:11 AM
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it's not really an opinion though.

alcohol is literally fermented fruits and shit.

fermented means rotten, basically.

you're drinking rotten fruit juice.

you know what things that are rotten taste like?

the embodiment of garbage, probably because that's what it is.

you know what alcohol tastes like?

garbage.
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SusanGreenEyes
05/26/17 2:57:07 AM
#38:


helIy posted...
its a weird synthetic cork thing

wine tastes awful.

i probably didn't let it "breathe" long enough or spin it around in the glass for 19 minutes

If you don't like wine, why did you buy it?
Are you using it in a recipe?
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helIy
05/26/17 2:58:17 AM
#39:


SusanGreenEyes posted...
If you don't like wine, why did you buy it?

...to drink it, and acquire a taste for it
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sveksii
05/26/17 2:59:57 AM
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helIy posted...
it's not really an opinion though.

alcohol is literally fermented fruits and shit.

fermented means rotten, basically.

you're drinking rotten fruit juice.

you know what things that are rotten taste like?

the embodiment of garbage, probably because that's what it is.

you know what alcohol tastes like?

garbage.
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dainkinkaide
05/26/17 3:08:45 AM
#41:


helIy posted...
fermented means rotten, basically.

No, fermenting, in the context of alcohol brewing, means "feeding sugar to yeast so it pees ethanol."

So, no, alcohol doesn't taste like garbage; it tastes like piss. Specifically, yeast piss.
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helIy
05/26/17 3:38:32 AM
#42:


dainkinkaide posted...
helIy posted...
fermented means rotten, basically.

No, fermenting, in the context of alcohol brewing, means "feeding sugar to yeast so it pees ethanol."

So, no, alcohol doesn't taste like garbage; it tastes like piss. Specifically, yeast piss.

oh, shit, word?

my bad.
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AllstarSniper32
05/26/17 3:54:43 AM
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All this fermentation talk is making me think of a codec call between Snake and Ocelot in MGS2.
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helIy
05/26/17 7:27:02 AM
#44:


sveksii posted...
helIy posted...
it's not really an opinion though.

alcohol is literally fermented fruits and shit.

fermented means rotten, basically.

you're drinking rotten fruit juice.

you know what things that are rotten taste like?

the embodiment of garbage, probably because that's what it is.

you know what alcohol tastes like?

garbage.
Hey, look. Weasel words. And since when does alcohol taste like cookies?


you're just mad you can't come up with a compelling argument against me because I'm right and you can't be

suck it nerd
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SunWuKung420
05/26/17 10:39:11 AM
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Fermented=/=rotten
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Renraku_San
05/26/17 1:36:49 PM
#46:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
Because some people just love being cork soakers, and would rather die than use an alternative bottle sealing method.


I heard your mom was a hardcore cork soaker.
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05/26/17 1:59:34 PM
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dainkinkaide posted...
helIy posted...
fermented means rotten, basically.

No, fermenting, in the context of alcohol brewing, means "feeding sugar to yeast so it pees ethanol."

So, no, alcohol doesn't taste like garbage; it tastes like piss. Specifically, yeast piss.


Because that's so much better >_>
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sveksii
05/26/17 2:15:53 PM
#48:


helIy posted...
sveksii posted...
helIy posted...
it's not really an opinion though.

alcohol is literally fermented fruits and shit.

fermented means rotten, basically.

you're drinking rotten fruit juice.

you know what things that are rotten taste like?

the embodiment of garbage, probably because that's what it is.

you know what alcohol tastes like?

garbage.
Hey, look. Weasel words. And since when does alcohol taste like cookies?


you're just mad you can't come up with a compelling argument against me because I'm right and you can't be

suck it nerd
You're using leaps of logic to poorly argue your point. So, I'll do the same.

If I throw away a perfectly good box of cookies, it becomes garbage. Therefore garbage tastes like cookies. So you're saying alcohol tastes like cookies.

But back to your original comment, alcohol is not literally an acquired taste. Stop projecting.
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Doctor Foxx
05/26/17 2:21:30 PM
#49:


sveksii posted...
But back to your original comment, alcohol is not literally an acquired taste. Stop projecting.

Ehhh. I think you do acquire a tolerance for the bitterness and off flavors of alcohol through repeat exposure. Another important thing is age: people tend to like wine more as they get older. Your taste receptors change over time and make bitter or strong flavors more less noticeable, which makes the drink palatable.
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helIy
05/26/17 11:37:57 PM
#50:


this wine is like drinking really shitty dollar store shitty brand juice with a horrible aftertaste

sveksii posted...
But back to your original comment, alcohol is not literally an acquired taste. Stop projecting.

ask anyone, literally anyone. alcohol is an acquired taste

no one legitimately thinks that shit tastes good
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