Board 8 > Politics Topic 86: Hawaii, Where Everything's Made Up And The Votes Don't Matter

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StealThisSheen 04/23/17 3:04:35 PM #201:	Okay, yeah. I almost forgot you're the "fuck consent" guy --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:877751055] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>Okay, yeah. I almost forgot you're the "fuck consent" guy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 04/23/17 3:07:12 PM #202:	StealThisSheen posted... So, now that I see it's not worth trying to debate with him... Is JD the guy that wants anarchy because he wants to do some creepy shit with women that would currently get him arrested? Yes. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:877751193] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>So, now that I see it's not worth trying to debate with him... Is JD the guy that wants anarchy because he wants to do some creepy shit with women that would currently get him arrested?</quote> Yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JDPizza 04/23/17 3:08:51 PM #203:	Considering you can currently get arrested just for talking to women, I don't pay much heed to what others think is "creepy". --- By the slice, baby. <cite>JDPizza posted [p:877751289] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>Considering you can currently get arrested just for talking to women, I don't pay much heed to what others think is "creepy".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 04/23/17 3:09:09 PM #204:	stuff like 'yes means yes' kinda pushes are def a step too far, if that's what his issue lies in. the south park parody of having signed consent forms isn't that far off the mark of where that trend continues. but i don't know his issues at all so it just seems like ganging up on the dude and potentially mischaracterizing him. ulti i get thanks to the history in these topics, which others have provided good examples for, even. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:877751307] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>stuff like 'yes means yes' kinda pushes are def a step too far, if that's what his issue lies in. the south park parody of having signed consent forms isn't that far off the mark of where that trend continues. but i don't know his issues at all so it just seems like ganging up on the dude and potentially mischaracterizing him. ulti i get thanks to the history in these topics, which others have provided good examples for, even.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 04/23/17 3:11:25 PM #205:	Wanglicious posted... stuff like 'yes means yes' kinda pushes are def a step too far, if that's what his issue lies in. the south park parody of having signed consent forms isn't that far off the mark of where that trend continues. but i don't know his issues at all so it just seems like ganging up on the dude and potentially mischaracterizing him. ulti i get thanks to the history in these topics, which others have provided good examples for, even. JD's thing is that it's the govenment's fault that he can't get with women because even "talking to them" will get him arrested And we've asked him what he even wants to do that could actually cause "being arrested" to be a concern, but he just keeps going back to that and saying consent is bad That's understandably a little creepy --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:877751425] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>Wanglicious posted...</cite> <quote>stuff like 'yes means yes' kinda pushes are def a step too far, if that's what his issue lies in. the south park parody of having signed consent forms isn't that far off the mark of where that trend continues. but i don't know his issues at all so it just seems like ganging up on the dude and potentially mischaracterizing him. ulti i get thanks to the history in these topics, which others have provided good examples for, even.</quote> JD's thing is that it's the govenment's fault that he can't get with women because even "talking to them" will get him arrested And we've asked him what he even wants to do that could actually cause "being arrested" to be a concern, but he just keeps going back to that and saying consent is bad That's understandably a little creepy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerfectChaosZ 04/23/17 3:11:59 PM #206:	It's not because you're not liberal you **ing piece of human ing refuse it's because you have to keep making accounts you stupid motherer so you have to have been banned in the first place. <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:877751455] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>It's not because you're not liberal you ing piece of human ing refuse it's because you have to keep making accounts you stupid mother**er so you have to have been banned in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket_pub 04/23/17 3:12:15 PM #207:	JDPizza posted... Considering you can currently get arrested just for talking to women, I don't pay much heed to what others think is "creepy". This happens all the time. Just the other day one of my male coworkers was talking to a female coworker and all of a sudden a SWAT team busted in and hauled his ass away. As if there isn't enough shit to deal with at work without disruptions like that :/ --- Blasting off <cite>redrocket_pub posted [p:877751467] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>JDPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Considering you can currently get arrested just for talking to women, I don't pay much heed to what others think is "creepy".</quote> This happens all the time. Just the other day one of my male coworkers was talking to a female coworker and all of a sudden a SWAT team busted in and hauled his ass away. As if there isn't enough shit to deal with at work without disruptions like that :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JDPizza 04/23/17 3:14:14 PM #208:	Chaos, you do realize we're allowed to swear on GFAQs, right? Turn off your filter, dude. --- By the slice, baby. <cite>JDPizza posted [p:877751568] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>Chaos, you do realize we're allowed to swear on GFAQs, right? Turn off your filter, dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 04/23/17 3:14:20 PM #209:	redrocket_pub posted... JDPizza posted... Considering you can currently get arrested just for talking to women, I don't pay much heed to what others think is "creepy". This happens all the time. Just the other day one of my male coworkers was talking to a female coworker and all of a sudden a SWAT team busted in and hauled his ass away. As if there isn't enough shit to deal with at work without disruptions like that :/ Shit, man, I know how it is. The other day, friend of mine looked at a girl on the street. Happened to glance her way. BOOM! SWAT. Nobody even called them! It just happened! --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:877751575] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>redrocket_pub posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JDPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Considering you can currently get arrested just for talking to women, I don't pay much heed to what others think is "creepy".</quote> This happens all the time. Just the other day one of my male coworkers was talking to a female coworker and all of a sudden a SWAT team busted in and hauled his ass away. As if there isn't enough shit to deal with at work without disruptions like that :/</quote> Shit, man, I know how it is. The other day, friend of mine looked at a girl on the street. Happened to glance her way. BOOM! SWAT. Nobody even called them! It just happened!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 04/23/17 3:14:34 PM #210:	JDPizza posted... you can currently get arrested just for talking to women maybe YOU can, bill cosby, but the rest of us can't. --- (boring generic non-rotating sig because I posted from not my phone) <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:877751592] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>JDPizza posted...</cite> <quote>you can currently get arrested just for talking to women</quote> maybe YOU can, bill cosby, but the rest of us can't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 04/23/17 3:14:44 PM #211:	PerfectChaosZ posted... It's not because you're not liberal you **ing piece of human ing refuse it's because you have to keep making accounts you stupid motherer so you have to have been banned in the first place. To be fair, he mostly makes accounts to purposely be seen by people that block him. Doesn't really have anything to do with banning. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:877751601] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>PerfectChaosZ posted...</cite> <quote>It's not because you're not liberal you ing piece of human ing refuse it's because you have to keep making accounts you stupid mother**er so you have to have been banned in the first place.</quote> To be fair, he mostly makes accounts to purposely be seen by people that block him. Doesn't really have anything to do with banning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 04/23/17 3:18:43 PM #212:	StealThisSheen posted... PerfectChaosZ posted... It's not because you're not liberal you **ing piece of human ing refuse it's because you have to keep making accounts you stupid motherer so you have to have been banned in the first place. To be fair, he mostly makes accounts to purposely be seen by people that block him. Doesn't really have anything to do with banning. Yes, let's not mischaracterized Ulti's embarrassing habits. They aren't safety accounts, they're accounts he switches to for the specific purpose of dodging the ignore lists and making new topics to maximize his attention seeking efforts. I was him a link to a topic he made earlier today here, but I guess it got modded. --- MWC: I've made the stupidest post possible. Ulti: Hold my beer. <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:877751811] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PerfectChaosZ posted...</cite> <quote>It's not because you're not liberal you ing piece of human ing refuse it's because you have to keep making accounts you stupid mother**er so you have to have been banned in the first place.</quote> To be fair, he mostly makes accounts to purposely be seen by people that block him. Doesn't really have anything to do with banning.</quote> Yes, let's not mischaracterized Ulti's embarrassing habits. They aren't safety accounts, they're accounts he switches to for the specific purpose of dodging the ignore lists and making new topics to maximize his attention seeking efforts. I was him a link to a topic he made earlier today here, but I guess it got modded.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lordloki12 04/23/17 3:20:55 PM #213:	JDPizza posted... Considering you can currently get arrested just for talking to women, I don't pay much heed to what others think is "creepy". Does your go to pick up line involve peeling their flesh off because that is the only way I see this being a problem for you. --- [ 1 ] [ 10 ] [ 7 ] [ 12 ] [ 9 ] [ 19 ] [ 5 ] <cite>lordloki12 posted [p:877751939] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>JDPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Considering you can currently get arrested just for talking to women, I don't pay much heed to what others think is "creepy".</quote> Does your go to pick up line involve peeling their flesh off because that is the only way I see this being a problem for you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 04/23/17 3:22:15 PM #214:	StealThisSheen posted... JD's thing is that it's the govenment's fault that he can't get with women because even "talking to them" will get him arrested And we've asked him what he even wants to do that could actually cause "being arrested" to be a concern, but he just keeps going back to that and saying consent is bad That's understandably a little creepy yeah, i was typing that before the talking to line hit. which is just confusing. like i totally get issues of yes means yes or issues around Title IX - especially that one. this is generally college campus stuff and there's a lot of legal issues that these fronts have which favors the (usually male) students suing the universities, assuming they don't kill themselves first. but beyond that, as a US issue? uh.... not sure there is any? certainly nothing close to talking to, at any rate. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:877752021] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote> JD's thing is that it's the govenment's fault that he can't get with women because even "talking to them" will get him arrested And we've asked him what he even wants to do that could actually cause "being arrested" to be a concern, but he just keeps going back to that and saying consent is bad That's understandably a little creepy</quote> yeah, i was typing that before the talking to line hit. which is just confusing. like i totally get issues of yes means yes or issues around Title IX - especially that one. this is generally college campus stuff and there's a lot of legal issues that these fronts have which favors the (usually male) students suing the universities, assuming they don't kill themselves first. but beyond that, as a US issue? uh.... not sure there is any? certainly nothing close to talking to, at any rate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 04/23/17 3:22:37 PM #215:	Yes. If only we would be nicer to people who come in with the default position "all liberal ideas are awful; all liberals are scum," maybe they'd vote for liberals next time. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:877752034] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>Yes. If only we would be nicer to people who come in with the default position "all liberal ideas are awful; all liberals are scum," maybe they'd vote for liberals next time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 04/23/17 3:35:51 PM #216:	JDPizza posted... I was hoping the Left would learn its lesson after the election and make adjustments, i'm not going to stop making justified attacks because a bunch of rightists are apparently too thin-skinned to handle this, no. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:877752802] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>JDPizza posted...</cite> <quote>I was hoping the Left would learn its lesson after the election and make adjustments,</quote> i'm not going to stop making justified attacks because a bunch of rightists are apparently too thin-skinned to handle this, no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 04/23/17 3:37:07 PM #217:	Hmmm, well two weeks to go until round 2. Should be a landslide victory, but I'll still go and stay in line for hours n hours. Bit weird not having any traditional candidate in the run off though. --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. More dominant than Conte's Juventus, that is DpOblivion's guru bracket. <cite>voltch posted [p:877752883] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>Hmmm, well two weeks to go until round 2. Should be a landslide victory, but I'll still go and stay in line for hours n hours. Bit weird not having any traditional candidate in the run off though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 04/23/17 3:42:12 PM #218:	voltch posted... Hmmm, well two weeks to go until round 2. Should be a landslide victory, but I'll still go and stay in line for hours n hours. Bit weird not having any traditional candidate in the run off though. I'd say this will answer the question of "Is France saner than America", but honestly, Marine Le Pen seems like a more legit candidate than Trump (Which is to say, she has any capability whatsoever to govern, her actual policies and logic behind said policies will be as dumb or dumber), so her winning wouldn't really make France equal to America. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:877753173] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>voltch posted...</cite> <quote>Hmmm, well two weeks to go until round 2. Should be a landslide victory, but I'll still go and stay in line for hours n hours. Bit weird not having any traditional candidate in the run off though.</quote> I'd say this will answer the question of "Is France saner than America", but honestly, Marine Le Pen seems like a more legit candidate than Trump (Which is to say, she has any capability whatsoever to govern, her actual policies and logic behind said policies will be as dumb or dumber), so her winning wouldn't really make France equal to America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MariaTaylor 04/23/17 3:43:40 PM #219:	who are you expecting to win in a landslide, voltch? --- Do you want me to <Erase> you? http://i.imgur.com/sW4vlID.png <cite>MariaTaylor posted [p:877753242] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>who are you expecting to win in a landslide, voltch?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 04/23/17 3:45:22 PM #220:	Macronmania gonna run wild on you --- Board 8's Voice of Reason http://i.imgur.com/chXIw06.jpg <cite>Eddv posted [p:877753352] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>Macronmania gonna run wild on you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solfadore 04/23/17 3:47:58 PM #221:	Macron is going to win handily. I think polls have him at 60-40 vs. Le Pen, and they were very accurate for the 1st round. Given that the run-off is way easier to predict than the chaotic 1st round... --- When you have nothing to say, quote yourself ~ Solfadore <cite>Solfadore posted [p:877753475] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>Macron is going to win handily. I think polls have him at 60-40 vs. Le Pen, and they were very accurate for the 1st round. Given that the run-off is way easier to predict than the chaotic 1st round...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CeraSeptem 04/23/17 3:50:20 PM #222:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... UltiXX posted... The left can whine about Obama interfering in their election any day now btw. What? Obama made a phone call to Macron. It is safe to say he prefers him over Le Pen, though of course no official endorsement was offered Ulti, being either incredibly stupid or remarkably dishonest, is equating this with the proposed intervention Russia had in our most recent presidential election. --- I ****ing love to cuddle. I'm being oppressed! <cite>CeraSeptem posted [p:877753622] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UltiXX posted...</cite> <quote>The left can whine about Obama interfering in their election any day now btw.</quote> What?</quote> Obama made a phone call to Macron. It is safe to say he prefers him over Le Pen, though of course no official endorsement was offered Ulti, being either incredibly stupid or remarkably dishonest, is equating this with the proposed intervention Russia had in our most recent presidential election.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 04/23/17 3:51:11 PM #223:	If anything, Trump is interfering with elections all across Europe by showing just how fucking stupid populism can be. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:877753679] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>If anything, Trump is interfering with elections all across Europe by showing just how fucking stupid populism can be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 04/23/17 3:52:36 PM #224:	https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/856211840002654210 https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/856212128813940736 LePen is Vlado I guess --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:877753786] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/856211840002654210 https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/856212128813940736 LePen is Vlado I guess</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 04/23/17 3:53:23 PM #225:	CeraSeptem posted... ChaosTonyV4 posted... UltiXX posted... The left can whine about Obama interfering in their election any day now btw. What? Obama made a phone call to Macron. It is safe to say he prefers him over Le Pen, though of course no official endorsement was offered Ulti, being either incredibly stupid or remarkably dishonest, is equating this with the proposed intervention Russia had in our most recent presidential election. Honestly, I'd take French people wanting Obama to run their country as being more election interference than Obama calling a dude and hiding it, much less the reality that he called the dude and told everyone about it. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:877753841] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>CeraSeptem posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UltiXX posted...</cite> <quote>The left can whine about Obama interfering in their election any day now btw.</quote> What?</quote> Obama made a phone call to Macron. It is safe to say he prefers him over Le Pen, though of course no official endorsement was offered Ulti, being either incredibly stupid or remarkably dishonest, is equating this with the proposed intervention Russia had in our most recent presidential election.</quote> Honestly, I'd take French people wanting Obama to run their country as being more election interference than Obama calling a dude and hiding it, much less the reality that he called the dude and told everyone about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 04/23/17 3:59:16 PM #226:	Macron should win, strange things have happened lately, but can't see LePen winning this one. In 5 years, who knows, but Macron does give off different compared to what France has been electing for decades. --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. More dominant than Conte's Juventus, that is DpOblivion's guru bracket. <cite>voltch posted [p:877754184] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>Macron should win, strange things have happened lately, but can't see LePen winning this one. In 5 years, who knows, but Macron does give off different compared to what France has been electing for decades.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solfadore 04/23/17 4:12:25 PM #227:	The most recent poll (conducted today) has Macron beating Le Pen 62-38 in the run-off in two weeks. --- When you have nothing to say, quote yourself ~ Solfadore <cite>Solfadore posted [p:877754895] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>The most recent poll (conducted today) has Macron beating Le Pen 62-38 in the run-off in two weeks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 04/23/17 4:14:51 PM #228:	My understanding of that election is that LePen has never had anything more than her core far-/alt-right base (Which would easily get her to the runoff), and everybody else was more or less completely going to coalesce behind whoever her runoff opponent was, leaving her with basically no chance in the end. Must be nice to have a political system where voters don't just vote for somebody just because of what party they're in...! <cite>Reg posted [p:877755040] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>My understanding of that election is that LePen has never had anything more than her core far-/alt-right base (Which would easily get her to the runoff), and everybody else was more or less completely going to coalesce behind whoever her runoff opponent was, leaving her with basically no chance in the end. Must be nice to have a political system where voters don't just vote for somebody just because of what party they're in...!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 04/23/17 4:15:52 PM #229:	Reg posted... My understanding of that election is that LePen has never had anything more than her core far-/alt-right base (Which would easily get her to the runoff), and everybody else was more or less completely going to coalesce behind whoever her runoff opponent was, leaving her with basically no chance in the end. Must be nice to have a political system where voters don't just vote for somebody just because of what party they're in...! What? What madness is this, you unpatriotic scum? --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:877755098] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reg posted...</cite> <quote>My understanding of that election is that LePen has never had anything more than her core far-/alt-right base (Which would easily get her to the runoff), and everybody else was more or less completely going to coalesce behind whoever her runoff opponent was, leaving her with basically no chance in the end. Must be nice to have a political system where voters don't just vote for somebody just because of what party they're in...!</quote> What? What madness is this, you unpatriotic scum?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 04/23/17 4:16:44 PM #230:	High turnout might help the dilute that core's influence. --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. More dominant than Conte's Juventus, that is DpOblivion's guru bracket. <cite>voltch posted [p:877755143] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>High turnout might help the dilute that core's influence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 04/23/17 4:17:27 PM #231:	yeah having more than half of your eligible/registered voters actually voting must be nice too <cite>Reg posted [p:877755187] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>yeah having more than half of your eligible/registered voters actually voting must be nice too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 04/23/17 4:19:46 PM #232:	I think it's more than 3 quarters this time round, but it helps that in London at least, the place is surrounded with nice shops. --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. More dominant than Conte's Juventus, that is DpOblivion's guru bracket. <cite>voltch posted [p:877755322] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>I think it's more than 3 quarters this time round, but it helps that in London at least, the place is surrounded with nice shops.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 04/23/17 4:24:01 PM #233:	Why are people voting in London? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:877755557] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>Why are people voting in London?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 04/23/17 4:26:41 PM #234:	Jakyl25 posted... Why are people voting in London? Because they're still French citizens. (There's also a town named London in France, but I doubt that's it) --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:877755701] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people voting in London?</quote> Because they're still French citizens. (There's also a town named London in France, but I doubt that's it)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 04/23/17 4:28:14 PM #235:	That's not how America does it and our system is the best!!!! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:877755783] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>That's not how America does it and our system is the best!!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solfadore 04/23/17 4:28:57 PM #236:	Reg posted... My understanding of that election is that LePen has never had anything more than her core far-/alt-right base (Which would easily get her to the runoff), and everybody else was more or less completely going to coalesce behind whoever her runoff opponent was, leaving her with basically no chance in the end. Must be nice to have a political system where voters don't just vote for somebody just because of what party they're in...! More or less correct, but not perfectly accurate. Had Le Pen's opponent been Fillon (conservative candidate mired in scandals), many leftist voters would've abstained in the 2nd round. Most polls between Fillon & Le Pen had them very close to one another (54-46, if my memory is correct), which means a Le Pen victory, while unlikely, would've still been plausible. If the far-left guy (Mélenchon) had been Le Pen's opponent instead, I have absolutely no clue what would've happened. Chances are many centrist & centre-right voters (who represent about a third of eligible voters) would've abstained. Again, a Le Pen victory was very much a possibility. Against Macron, though, she stands no chance. While he may not be everybody's first choice (as is usually the case with centrist politicians), a majority of the population is okay with a Macron win and will happily vote for him in the run-off to block Le Pen. He is by far the worst opponent she could've drawn. --- When you have nothing to say, quote yourself ~ Solfadore <cite>Solfadore posted [p:877755824] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reg posted...</cite> <quote>My understanding of that election is that LePen has never had anything more than her core far-/alt-right base (Which would easily get her to the runoff), and everybody else was more or less completely going to coalesce behind whoever her runoff opponent was, leaving her with basically no chance in the end. Must be nice to have a political system where voters don't just vote for somebody just because of what party they're in...!</quote> More or less correct, but not perfectly accurate. Had Le Pen's opponent been Fillon (conservative candidate mired in scandals), many leftist voters would've abstained in the 2nd round. Most polls between Fillon & Le Pen had them very close to one another (54-46, if my memory is correct), which means a Le Pen victory, while unlikely, would've still been plausible. If the far-left guy (Mélenchon) had been Le Pen's opponent instead, I have absolutely no clue what would've happened. Chances are many centrist & centre-right voters (who represent about a third of eligible voters) would've abstained. Again, a Le Pen victory was very much a possibility. Against Macron, though, she stands no chance. While he may not be everybody's first choice (as is usually the case with centrist politicians), a majority of the population is okay with a Macron win and will happily vote for him in the run-off to block Le Pen. He is by far the worst opponent she could've drawn.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 04/23/17 4:32:42 PM #237:	London has more French people living in it than most French towns --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. More dominant than Conte's Juventus, that is DpOblivion's guru bracket. <cite>voltch posted [p:877756034] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>London has more French people living in it than most French towns</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 04/23/17 4:33:45 PM #238:	I did consider mentioning that turnout shenanigans seemed like the only way LePen could actually win, but I had no idea what situations could lead to them because I'm not familiar with any of the other candidates involved, so I just left it out <_< My understanding was that the centrist voters would go for the far left candidate because LePen was that unpalatable to everybody outside her core base though. Which is hearsay and could be pretty inaccurate <cite>Reg posted [p:877756105] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>I did consider mentioning that turnout shenanigans seemed like the only way LePen could actually win, but I had no idea what situations could lead to them because I'm not familiar with any of the other candidates involved, so I just left it out <_< My understanding was that the centrist voters would go for the far left candidate because LePen was that unpalatable to everybody outside her core base though. Which is hearsay and could be pretty inaccurate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 04/23/17 4:34:40 PM #239:	I think many assume a repeat of Chirac vs lepen would have occurred. --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. More dominant than Conte's Juventus, that is DpOblivion's guru bracket. <cite>voltch posted [p:877756149] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>I think many assume a repeat of Chirac vs lepen would have occurred.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 04/23/17 4:35:48 PM #240:	voltch posted... I think many assume a repeat of Chirac vs lepen would have occurred. Translation for the unaware: Daddy Le Pen got rekt. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:877756210] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>voltch posted...</cite> <quote>I think many assume a repeat of Chirac vs lepen would have occurred.</quote> Translation for the unaware: Daddy Le Pen got rekt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voltch 04/23/17 4:40:17 PM #241:	However the daughter is a much more savvy politician. JMLP was a huge target for anyone. --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. More dominant than Conte's Juventus, that is DpOblivion's guru bracket. <cite>voltch posted [p:877756481] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>However the daughter is a much more savvy politician. JMLP was a huge target for anyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 04/23/17 4:42:38 PM #242:	Ugh, we have to root for a centrist just to block the bigoted candidate? Sounds familiar --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:877756618] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>Ugh, we have to root for a centrist just to block the bigoted candidate? Sounds familiar</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 04/23/17 4:50:48 PM #243:	Jakyl25 posted... Ugh, we have to root for a centrist just to block the bigoted candidate? Sounds familiar Really Fillion would have been the one similar to Clinton. This is like having 1992 Bill Clinton on the ballot --- Board 8's Voice of Reason http://i.imgur.com/chXIw06.jpg <cite>Eddv posted [p:877757061] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Ugh, we have to root for a centrist just to block the bigoted candidate? Sounds familiar</quote> Really Fillion would have been the one similar to Clinton. This is like having 1992 Bill Clinton on the ballot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BowserCuffs 04/23/17 4:55:41 PM #244:	Wow, And I thought JD's opinions were bad before, but now I see the underlying cause behind them, and... Also, apparently he really does believe we're supposed to pander to people who say the worst shit. Freedom of expression for people who say blatantly incorrect things is more important than the freedom of expression for those who criticize them. It's more of the "Criticism is censorship" bullocks. Also, why is it that conservatives can say "an entire group of people is violent and evil for belonging to that class so we should make sure that we destroy them" and these people will rush to their defense, but when someone says "You're a bad person for saying that", they go on the offensive? You'd think that they'd be all for defending people's rights to offensive opinions, including the offensive opinion that people who say bad things are bad people. --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. <cite>BowserCuffs posted [p:877757363] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>Wow, And I thought JD's opinions were bad before, but now I see the underlying cause behind them, and... Also, apparently he really does believe we're supposed to pander to people who say the worst shit. Freedom of expression for people who say blatantly incorrect things is more important than the freedom of expression for those who criticize them. It's more of the "Criticism is censorship" bullocks. Also, why is it that conservatives can say "an entire group of people is violent and evil for belonging to that class so we should make sure that we destroy them" and these people will rush to their defense, but when someone says "You're a bad person for saying that", they go on the offensive? You'd think that they'd be all for defending people's rights to offensive opinions, including the offensive opinion that people who say bad things are bad people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 04/23/17 5:07:05 PM #245:	BowserCuffs posted... Wow, And I thought JD's opinions were bad before, but now I see the underlying cause behind them, and... Also, apparently he really does believe we're supposed to pander to people who say the worst shit. Freedom of expression for people who say blatantly incorrect things is more important than the freedom of expression for those who criticize them. It's more of the "Criticism is censorship" bullocks. Also, why is it that conservatives can say "an entire group of people is violent and evil for belonging to that class so we should make sure that we destroy them" and these people will rush to their defense, but when someone says "You're a bad person for saying that", they go on the offensive? You'd think that they'd be all for defending people's rights to offensive opinions, including the offensive opinion that people who say bad things are bad people. Because the people rushing to their defense are also conservative. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:877758050] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>BowserCuffs posted...</cite> <quote>Wow, And I thought JD's opinions were bad before, but now I see the underlying cause behind them, and... Also, apparently he really does believe we're supposed to pander to people who say the worst shit. Freedom of expression for people who say blatantly incorrect things is more important than the freedom of expression for those who criticize them. It's more of the "Criticism is censorship" bullocks. Also, why is it that conservatives can say "an entire group of people is violent and evil for belonging to that class so we should make sure that we destroy them" and these people will rush to their defense, but when someone says "You're a bad person for saying that", they go on the offensive? You'd think that they'd be all for defending people's rights to offensive opinions, including the offensive opinion that people who say bad things are bad people.</quote> Because the people rushing to their defense are also conservative.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 04/23/17 5:16:04 PM #246:	LOL Trump is tweeting about how if the election was held again today he would "still" win the popular vote. Self-aware troll bait or delusional? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:877758586] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>LOL Trump is tweeting about how if the election was held again today he would "still" win the popular vote. Self-aware troll bait or delusional?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 04/23/17 5:19:54 PM #247:	100% the latter --- Ralliers' determination can't even hold a birthday candle to the blazing flame of DpOblivion's winning spirit! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:877758816] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>100% the latter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BowserCuffs 04/23/17 5:20:19 PM #248:	Jakyl25 posted... LOL Trump is tweeting about how if the election was held again today he would "still" win the popular vote. Self-aware troll bait or delusional? Considering Trump hasn't shown an ounce of self awareness since he first started campaigning for the presidency, it feels like the answer to this question is obvious. --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. <cite>BowserCuffs posted [p:877758836] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>LOL Trump is tweeting about how if the election was held again today he would "still" win the popular vote. Self-aware troll bait or delusional?</quote> Considering Trump hasn't shown an ounce of self awareness since he first started campaigning for the presidency, it feels like the answer to this question is obvious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 04/23/17 5:21:12 PM #249:	People had almost forgotten the popular vote fuckery, so leave it to Trump to dredge it back up. --- MWC: I've made the stupidest post possible. Ulti: Hold my beer. <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:877758891] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote>People had almost forgotten the popular vote fuckery, so leave it to Trump to dredge it back up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MariaTaylor 04/23/17 5:25:39 PM #250:	Jakyl25 posted... LOL Trump is tweeting about how if the election was held again today he would "still" win the popular vote. Self-aware troll bait or delusional? I assume he's referring to this Washington Post article http://archive.is/zyiLA relevant bit; While just 4 percent of Trump's supporters say they would back someone else if there was a redo of the election, fully 15 percent of Clinton supporters say they would ditch her. Trump leads in a re-do of the 2016 election 43 percent to 40 percent after losing the popular vote 46-44. the last line is a bit unclear though so I'm not sure what the washington post is talking about in reference to the popular vote. I can't honestly tell if they're talking about him losing the popular vote before or if they are saying he would lose it again by that listed margin. but they don't say anything about him winning the popular vote I don't think. they do seem to believe he would win the general election again. it's weird that he would specifically say popular vote though unless he looked at a different poll that I'm not aware of. SupremeZero posted... Because the people rushing to their defense are also conservative. the real answer is a lot more complicated than that. but, well, this is clearly not the topic to have that discussion. --- Do you want me to <Erase> you? http://i.imgur.com/sW4vlID.png <cite>MariaTaylor posted [p:877759138] in Politics T... [t:75264335]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>LOL Trump is tweeting about how if the election was held again today he would "still" win the popular vote. Self-aware troll bait or delusional?</quote> I assume he's referring to this Washington Post article http://archive.is/zyiLA relevant bit; <quote>While just 4 percent of Trump's supporters say they would back someone else if there was a redo of the election, fully 15 percent of Clinton supporters say they would ditch her. Trump leads in a re-do of the 2016 election 43 percent to 40 percent after losing the popular vote 46-44.</quote> the last line is a bit unclear though so I'm not sure what the washington post is talking about in reference to the popular vote. I can't honestly tell if they're talking about him losing the popular vote before or if they are saying he would lose it again by that listed margin. but they don't say anything about him winning the popular vote I don't think. they do seem to believe he would win the general election again. it's weird that he would specifically say popular vote though unless he looked at a different poll that I'm not aware of. <cite>SupremeZero posted...</cite> <quote>Because the people rushing to their defense are also conservative.</quote> the real answer is a lot more complicated than that. but, well, this is clearly not the topic to have that discussion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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